From: owner-cdn-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca on behalf of Cdn-Firearms Digest [owner-cdn-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca] Sent: Monday, 02 April, 2001 09:27 To: cdn-firearms-digest@broadway.sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Subject: Cdn-Firearms Digest V3 #703 Cdn-Firearms Digest Monday, April 2 2001 Volume 03 : Number 703 In this issue: 10 GUN COUNTS LAID Gun-enforcement team targets 'bad guy' COPS ISSUE MILL WOODS TOY GUN WARNING GUN HELD TO CLERK'S HEAD Shipping a restricted handgun Ottawa Citizen 2 April 2001 A11 [none] Denver: Boy given rifle, kills mother by mistake Guns easy to get, say high school students Column: Liberals govern like bullies Why don't they just look it up on the handgun registry? WARNING BY CLERKS SENDS WOULD-BE THIEF RUNNING High-tech police toy serves deadly serious purpose ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 08:29:39 -0600 From: "Breitkreuz, Garry - Assistant 1" Subject: 10 GUN COUNTS LAID PUBLICATION: The Edmonton Sun DATE: 2001.04.01 SECTION: News PAGE: 21 COLUMN: Sunflashes - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---- 10 GUN COUNTS LAID - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---- A man from the Kitscoty area faces 10 weapons charges after a rural residence was searched in late March and Mounties seized more than 100 guns and a couple of thousand rounds of ammunition. The majority of weapons seized during the search, 225 km east of Edmonton, were shotguns and rifles. But officers also seized handguns, machine-guns and crossbows. A number of the prohibited and restricted weapons were not registered. Mounties received a tip that led to the search. Police from four jurisdictions took part. Larry Joseph Semen, 41, has been charged with five counts of possession of prohibited , three counts of possession of unregistered restricted , one count of possession of a prohibited device and one count of unsafe storage of a firearm. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 08:29:46 -0600 From: "Breitkreuz, Garry - Assistant 1" Subject: Gun-enforcement team targets 'bad guy' PUBLICATION: The Chronicle-Herald DATE: 2001.04.02 SECTION: Nova Scotia PAGE: A3 BYLINE: Mary Ellen MacIntyre - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---- ; Gun-enforcement team targets 'bad guy'; Tracing of illegal key role, top official says - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---- Truro - Members of a highly trained support team set up by the Canadian Centre won't swoop down in black helicopters, assault rifles in hand, ready to confiscate illegal weapons. "That's certainly not what we're about," Robert Frolic, director of the national weapons enforcement support team, said here Sunday. Mr. Frolic told delegates to the annual meeting of the Nova Scotia Federation of Anglers and Hunters that his organization is more of a resource for law enforcement agencies. "Most police officers on the streets are generalists. In other words, they have many things to concern themselves with," Mr. Frolic said. "If an officer confiscates a weapon from a bad guy, it's important to know the history of that weapon because every gun is like a fingerprint and can tell us a lot." Police can crack cases involving trafficking in illegal and the smuggling of weapons into Canada by tracing a weapon's ownership. "That's where we come in because we have the people experienced in identification and tracing these weapons," Mr. Frolic said. Justice Minister Anne McLellan announced the creation of the team in January. The organization will have teams of specialists whose expertise in weapons, identification, tracing and warrants should aid local police agencies across the country. Buying cheap guns in the United States, smuggling them into Canada and reselling them at an enormous profit is a booming business for the underworld. Mr. Frolic said the are used solely for criminal purposes and jeopardize the safety of police officers and civilians. He told delegates of one visit he made to the Vancouver police department's weapons lockup. "They had 5,000 in the lockup and no idea whether or not most of them were ever used in connection with a crime," he said. "At least 189 of them (had been) used in criminal activity by gangbangers, organized crime and others." Mr. Frolic said responsible gun owners have nothing to fear from his team. "We're after the bad guys." Geoff Francis, a deputy director with the team and a 12-year police veteran, told delegates he worked as an undercover officer for a long time. "And in all those years, I never ran into a responsible firearm owner because the guys I met were selling guns to me thinking I'm a drug dealer," Mr. Francis said. "The bad guys want the automatic weapons, like Uzis, because they think it's sexy and in their world, size really does make a difference," he said. Tony Rodgers, executive director of the Nova Scotia Federation of Anglers and Hunters, said many members of his 6,500-strong group still resent and oppose Canada's gun-licensing laws. The two-year-old process for getting a gun licence, the system's high cost to the public, its maze of bureaucracy and its alleged inefficiency in identifying safety risks have come under unceasing criticism across the country. But Mr. Rodgers welcomed the creation of the weapons enforcement support team. "We have to get rid of the bad guys, and this kind of team is a positive step for the community and responsible firearm owners," he said. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 08:29:52 -0600 From: "Breitkreuz, Garry - Assistant 1" Subject: COPS ISSUE MILL WOODS TOY GUN WARNING PUBLICATION: The Edmonton Sun DATE: 2001.04.02 SECTION: News PAGE: 18 SOURCE: Edmonton Sun BYLINE: Raquel Exner KEYWORDS: Weapon; Crime; Youth; Edmonton - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---- COPS ISSUE MILL WOODS TOY WARNING; PLAYING WITH GUNS NOT RECOMMENDED - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---- City cops said kids should be more wary about playing outside with pellet guns in the Mill Woods area - where residents are still edgy in the wake of last week's fatal shooting. "It's one thing when kids used to do this on the farm, but in Mill Woods it's definitely not a good idea with everyone so concerned about the gang situation right now," said Const. Jay Lefebvre. Yesterday at 3 p.m., four police cruisers responded to a complaint that a few teens were walking around with a rifle near Daly Grove Elementary School at 1888 37 St. The youths shot at some windows and fluorescent lights. Police recovered the BB at an area condo complex. Const. Jason Kowal said people need to realize the dangers kids can put themselves in if they walk around in public with pellet guns that look too much like the real thing. "Parents should take precautions about where these pellet guns are stored and when their kids are using them," he said. "We take these complaints very seriously, especially with reports of teens with a rifle. "We don't know anything until we get there about whether it's a toy , pellet , or a real ." Cops said charges of mischief may be laid against three teenagers. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 08:29:59 -0600 From: "Breitkreuz, Garry - Assistant 1" Subject: GUN HELD TO CLERK'S HEAD PUBLICATION: The Toronto Star DATE: 2001.04.02 SECTION: NEWS PAGE: B02 ILLUSTRATION: MURDER VICTIM - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---- Crime Stoppers York Region - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---- GUN HELD TO CLERK'S HEAD Three men entered the Mac's Milk Store at 34 Harwood Ave. S. in Ajax about 8 p.m. on Monday, March 19. One of the trio approached the clerk and held a to his head while the other two went behind the counter. The clerk was ordered to open the cash register. After grabbing a quantity of cash, cigarettes and lottery tickets, the three fled the store. The -toting robber is described as in his late teens, 5-foot-5 and of slim build, wearing a green jacket. The other two robbers are believed to be in their early 20s, 6 feet and of slim build. All three wore masks. Call 1-800-222-TIPS. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 08:30:05 -0600 From: MARCOTTE JONATHAN Subject: Shipping a restricted handgun Hi folks, I'm selling one of my handguns to a guy in Moncton. The problem is that I'm in Montreal and we can't find a courrier who accept restricted firearms. Only Loomis accept them, but from Business to people. We've called so far Puro, FedEx and UPS without any luck. Do you have any idea on a courrier who can accept them ? Thanks a lot, Jonathan _______/)________/)____________________________ " The only thing better than winning something is losing it ... and winning it back. " ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 08:30:11 -0600 From: "Bert van Ingen" Subject: Ottawa Citizen 2 April 2001 A11 SENATE WOULD IMPROVE BY LISTENING TO HARD-WORKING ANNE COOLS=20 The Liberal Party of Canada and its members are perfectly comfortable = with the skin colour of Senator Anne Cools. However, they have a big = problem with her defense of the traditional family - husband, wife and = children - and especially, the fair treatment of fathers. The Liberals' biggest draw is the promotion of women's rights, to the = neglect of men's rights. She rejects this, saying that men deserve = rights. Three examples stand out but volumes could be written on her = stand for fairness. She actively sought honesty, fairness and the truth while sitting on the = Joint Senate House Committee on Child Custody and Access. She strongly = promoted fair treatment for mothers, children and fathers. She upheld = the importance of fathers to children. She denounced Ontario's Bill 117, saying it usurped the Criminal Code by = punishing a husband with no trial, and without finding him guilty of = assault. She also noted that it allows a man to forfeit his entire = financial interest in a property, at his female partner's request. This = approximates grand theft. She opposed Bill C-23 which offered benefits to same-sex partners. While the Senate is supposed to give a careful, deliberated second = opinion on laws before their enactment, she is almost the only senator = actually to do so. Most senators quickly and without hesitation comply = with orders from the prime minister or his ministers to pass bills as = is. She spends long hours researching and drafting speeches. The Senate would improve greatly by listening to and heeding her words. = I acclaim the honesty, integrity, beauty, decency, generosity and great = efforts of this magnanimous woman. Peter Bradley, Ottawa ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 08:50:16 -0600 From: Subject: [none] I just received this from a friend in Victoria BC, really don't know the validity of the statistics but it if true it certainly puts a unique spin on our law makers... E. John Wilson This was supposedly published in the Ottawa Citizen. Was it? Can you imagine working for a company that has a little more than 300 employees and has the following statistics: 30 have been accused of spousal abuse 9 have been arrested for fraud 14 have been accused of writing bad checks 95 have directly or indirectly bankrupted at least 2 businesses 4 have done time for assault 55 cannot get a credit card due to bad credit 12 have been arrested on drug related charges 4 have been arrested for shop lifting 16 are currently defendants in lawsuits 62 have been arrested from drunk driving in the last year Can you guess which organization this is? It is the 301 MPs in the current Canadian Parliament. The same group that crank out hundreds of new laws designed to keep the rest of us in line!!!!!!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 08:50:09 -0600 From: Subject: Denver: Boy given rifle, kills mother by mistake PUBLICATION: National Post DATE: 2001.04.02 EDITION: National SECTION: News PAGE: A2 SOURCE: Reuters DATELINE: DENVER, Colo. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---- Boy given rifle, kills mother by mistake - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---- DENVER, Colo. - A six-year-old boy who wanted to shoot "daddy's " accidentally shot and killed his mother during a family target-shooting session on a Colorado ranch, police said. Jill Wells, 36, a registered nurse with another son, two-and-a-half-years-old, was shooting her own rifle from a prone position next to her son, Tanner. She was struck in the head at point-blank range when a bullet from the .22-calibre rifle he was holding hit her in the head, Lincoln County Sheriff Leroy Yowell said. She died instantly. The shooting occurred last Wednesday outside the small town of Punkin Center, about 150 kilometres southeast of Denver, but an announcement only was made on the weekend. "He normally shoots a small .22-calibre rifle we call a chipmunk, but he wanted to shoot daddy's ," Sheriff Yowell said. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 08:50:23 -0600 From: "Breitkreuz, Garry - Assistant 1" Subject: Guns easy to get, say high school students PUBLICATION: Edmonton Journal DATE: 2001.04.02 EDITION: FINAL SECTION: World PAGE: A4 SOURCE: The Edmonton Journal DATELINE: Los Angeles - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---- Guns easy to get, say high school students - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---- Nearly half of high school students in the United States have easy access to guns, and more than one in five high school boys have taken a weapon to school in the last year, according to a survey released Sunday. Forty-seven per cent of high school students said they could obtain a if they wanted to, while 22 per cent of middle school students said they could get a firearm, according to a nationwide survey conducted last year by the nonprofit, nonpartisan Josephson Institute of Ethics, based in Marina del Rey, Calif. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 08:50:29 -0600 From: "Breitkreuz, Garry - Assistant 1" Subject: Column: Liberals govern like bullies PUBLICATION: The Guardian (Charlottetown) DATE: 2001.04.02 EDITION: FINAL SECTION: Editorial PAGE: A6 COLUMN: Canadian Comment BYLINE: Diane Francis SOURCE: The Financial Post; Southam Network DATELINE: TORONTO - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---- Liberals govern like bullies - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---- TORONTO -- Hedy Fry's dishonest smear tactics are simply the latest Liberal version of bigotry against most Canadians. She claimed in Parliament two week ago that racism was so rampant in Canada that crosses were burning on the streets of Prince George, B.C. She was saying, in effect, that the Ku Klux Klan was active there without so much as a shred of evidence to support that statement. This was reminiscent of Immigration Minister Elinor Caplan's labelling, during the last federal election, of the Canadian Alliance and its supporters as neo-Nazis, bigots and anti-Semites. At least Fry apologized after being embarrassed into admitting that what she had said was totally fabricated. Caplan never apologized despite the fact she did not show a shred of evidence, nor could she. In fact, the prime minister not only accepted her behaviour but scolded the Alliance for being so sensitive about her remarks. Both incidents, along with other comments slurring westerners and conservatives, are evidence of a pathological and ruthless intolerance by the Liberals, and other politically correct establishments, toward anyone or anything that disagrees with them. That is why nothing changes much in this country. Those who oppose these vested political interests are slandered, marginalized or frightened off by the viciousness of attacks. What happens is that anyone who disagrees with them is an ``enemy.'' Once dehumanized, anything goes. Like Brownshirts from the Nazi era in a frenzy, they beat up anyone who is not part of their clique because they believe they are superior. They slander at will. They tell Big Lies in order to further their propaganda efforts. Here are the most common ones that are designed to cow critics, and all too often do: (*) Anyone who wants lower taxes is a rich ingrate who doesn't care about the poor or unfortunate. (*) Anyone who wants to stop the aboriginal treaty madness or the unfair tax privileges aboriginals have been awarded by certain controversial court decisions is a bigot who hates native people. (*) Anyone who says Canada spends a foolish amount of money on promoting French, and virtually none promoting English, is a racist who is anti-French. (*) Anyone who questions our ruinous immigration and refugee policy and operations is a white supremacist who hates minorities. (*) Anyone who wants to improve health care by changing the system doesn't care about poor sick people. (*) Anyone who thinks that laws should be tougher, and controls a questionable policy, is a redneck. These simple lies have served to disenfranchise most of western Canada, conservatives and free enterprisers. These lies have stood in the way of any kind of intelligent debate about policies in this country for 30 years. Consensus is impossible as the Liberals maintain they are correct. Meanwhile, the nation continues to be divided into regional voting blocs. This mentality impedes reform or unity. It damages reputations unfairly and harms individuals. And it is self-perpetuating because the Liberals control the country, thanks to an opposition divided into regional voting blocs. Any right-thinking leader would have fired Hedy Fry immediately for making up stories about British Columbians, the people she is paid to serve. Instead, she makes an apology and is fiercely defended by her colleagues in Parliament. She collects from these same people she has slandered a generous bonus as a cabinet minister on top of a salary and perquisites. And we the taxpayers have to like it. Likewise, an unapologetic Caplan, in the interests of demonstRating oneer ``tolerance,'' continues to turn this country into a dustbin for undesirables. She has erased the border to terrorists, criminals and fakes claiming to be refugees. She ruins our society with her policies and anyone who criticizes her is a neo-Nazi, bigot and anti-Semite. She also collects a fancy pay cheque, enjoys a car and driver at taxpayer expense, and continues to treat Canadians, most of whom are concerned about immigration and refugee practices, with complete contempt. As last week's events in Parliament reveal, we are governed by a bunch of bullies who have no respect for other viewpoints, values or criticisms. And what's most disturbing is that until conservative opposition parties unite, they will continue to divide and conquer. Diane Francis writes for The Financial Post. Distributed by the Southam Network. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 08:50:35 -0600 From: "Breitkreuz, Garry - Assistant 1" Subject: Why don't they just look it up on the handgun registry? PUBLICATION: The Toronto Sun DATE: 2001.04.01 SECTION: Comment PAGE: C2 COLUMN: Letters to the editor I WOULD like to correct you on your headline "Pistol leaves trail of terror," (March 25). A pistol is an inanimate object and cannot do anything of its own volition. Rather, it was the people who used the pistol who terrorized that neighbourhood. Instead of focusing on the gun, maybe people should be addressing the causes behind what makes people commit crimes: drugs, poverty, a sense of entitlement, lack of respect. If the police are having such a hard time finding this pistol, why don't they just look it up on the handgun registry, which has been in effect since 1934? Oh, that's right, criminals don't register their guns, do they? B. Mills Hamilton Editor's Comment (Your sarcasm is justified) ------------------------------ Date: 2001.04.02 From: "Breitkreuz, Garry - Assistant 1" Subject: WARNING BY CLERKS SENDS WOULD-BE THIEF RUNNING HEADLINE: WARNING BY CLERKS SENDS WOULD-BE THIEF RUNNING A would-be thief fled empty-handed from a London variety store late Saturday night when the clerks yelled that police were outside. Police said the man entered the Frontenac Variety on Commissioners Road West, asked for cigarettes, then pulled a small on the two male clerks. He fled when they shouted their warning and escaped in a waiting blue Cavalier. There were no injuries. Police are seeking a man aged 30 to 40, six feet tall with thin build and wearing a black jacket and ball cap. ------------------------------ Date: 2001.04.01 From: "Breitkreuz, Garry - Assistant 1" Subject: High-tech police toy serves deadly serious purpose aim at a computer-generated bad guy while using the Calgary police training facility. Sender: owner-cdn-firearms@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Precedence: normal Reply-To: cdn-firearms@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---- Virtual-reality showdowns: High-tech police toy serves deadly serious purpose - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---- Const. Brad Moore has been sent to pick up Anthony Johnson on an outstanding warrant. But once inside Johnson's house, Moore finds himself facing a burly foe wielding a baseball bat. As the menacing man approaches, bat held high, Moore grabs for his pepper spray and blasts the cursing man in the face. The scenario unfolds not in Johnson's home, but in a dimly lit, converted racquetball court in the basement of the Calgary Police Service's 7th Avenue S.E. administration building. Johnson is not a real person, but part of a computerized simulation, with the on-screen bad guy getting hit with a succession of dots from a laser embedded in the pepper spray canister. In place of his regular-issue Glock , Moore carries the same model embedded with a laser. Several metres away, training officer Const. Mike Starchuk watches the scenario unfold, controlling the series of events from the police service's Interactive Computerized Arms Trainer (ICAT) computer system. Behind him, packed in boxes, is the new Fire Arms Training System (FATS), waiting to be installed. ICAT has been in use for almost four years, and the FATS system will be up and running in two weeks. ``It's using a computer to drive a laser disc that will project an image onto a screen,'' said Star-chuk. ``The image is a scenario to depict common situations where officers may or may not have to use force in order to gain control of somebody. ``Based on the subject's actions on the screen, the officer is to assess the situation. If it requires the use of force, they have to use the minimum amount of force to effect their purpose. ``That could range from anything from police presence to verbal commands to empty-hand techniques, all the way up to and including deadly force.'' The lasers' beams are picked up by a unit attached to the projector providing the simulation. The hits from those beams are fed into the computer and the on-screen images will react. The scenarios have a variety of options that can change as a situation evolves. Starchuk said the FATS system is a new generation of equipment to replace ICAT, which is wearing out. ``We use it a lot,'' he said. ``All recruits have to undergo 12 hours of training with it.'' Sgt. Andy Jorgensen, in charge of firearms for the police service, said all officers are required to qualify each year for firearms use at the outdoor range, but the computerized system is used to supplement that. ``We teach all the recruits and in-service people firearm training with pistol and shotgun,'' said Jorgensen, noting the FATS system is popular among U.S. police forces as a training tool. ``It's all indoors,'' he said. ``It's all computerized. It's nothing really new, it's just the next generation.'' ------------------------------ End of Cdn-Firearms Digest V3 #703 ********************************** Submissions: mailto:cdn-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Mailing List Commands: mailto:majordomo@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Moderator's e-mail address: mailto:acardin33@home.com List owner: mailto:owner-cdn-firearms@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca FAQ list: http://www.magma.ca/~asd/cfd-faq1.html and http://teapot.usask.ca/cdn-firearms/Faq/cfd-faq1.html Web Site: http://teapot.usask.ca/cdn-firearms/homepage.html FTP Site: ftp://teapot.usask.ca/pub/cdn-firearms/ CFDigest Archives: http://www.sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca/~ab133/ or put the next command in an e-mail message and mailto:majordomo@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca get cdn-firearms-digest v03.n198 end (198 is the digest issue number and 03 is the volume) To unsubscribe from _all_ the lists, put the next five lines in a message and mailto:majordomo@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca unsubscribe cdn-firearms-digest unsubscribe cdn-firearms-alert unsubscribe cdn-firearms-chat unsubscribe cdn-firearms end (To subscribe, use "subscribe" instead of "unsubscribe".) 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