From: owner-cdn-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca on behalf of Cdn-Firearms Digest [owner-cdn-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca] Sent: Monday, 02 April, 2001 21:54 To: cdn-firearms-digest@broadway.sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Subject: Cdn-Firearms Digest V3 #705 Cdn-Firearms Digest Monday, April 2 2001 Volume 03 : Number 705 In this issue: Mr Rodgers hates bad guys Has the Opposition gone too far in pursuing THE MOVIE "GUN FIGHTER RETIRES" Authorization to transport - prohibited long arms (no subject) (no subject) Instuctors email addresses (Revised) semi-trailers, ads, etc. [URL] Globe & Mail commentary: Saving the enfeebled parliamentarian (no subject) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 14:05:14 -0600 From: "Ross" Subject: Mr Rodgers hates bad guys Wow the New Enforcement team hates bad guys. I guess that after jan 1, 2001, he must also hate the millions of Canadains who have not got licenses. Are they not bad guys too. He admits smuggled guns are used in crime... how does he therfore support C-68 which has nothing to do with crime control. If the curent database of registered handguns is 45% riddled with erros, how does he propese to trace the origins of a gun. The giovernment has already admited the registry has not solved one single crime. Thios smells like Bovine hockey pucks, and it is an example of another frauds being perpetrated by the Just us department to save their own wretched necks. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 16:02:45 -0600 From: "Frederick Wm. Guse" Subject: Has the Opposition gone too far in pursuing Has the opposition gone too far in pursuing "Shawinigate"? The wording of your question implies that the opposition is doing something improper by trying to the "Little Guy from Shawinigan" to admit that he was in conflict of interest with respect to his actions in getting taxpayer supported loans for the "Auberge Grand-Mère" in his riding of St-Maurice. It is fairly clear that he did NOT divest himself of the shares in the golf course until will after he tried to coerce the loan. Surely the value of the golf course (and those shares) would be adversely affected if the "Auberge Grand-Mère" failed. If this isn't a conflict of interest, I don't know what is? Chrétien has brought us premature closure of the Somalia Inquiry, clear abuse of power at the APEC protest, the HRDC scandal, the outrageously wasteful and ineffective gun registry boondoggle, and now "Shawinigate". To imply that the opposition has gone too far in the real impropriety! Please! Frederick W. Guse Iroquois, Ontario 613-652-4656 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 17:41:01 -0600 From: "Bob Lickacz" Subject: THE MOVIE "GUN FIGHTER RETIRES" SETTING: Western Canada DATE & TIME: Sunset, April 2, 2001 SCENE: Loutish, politically incorrect, gun fighter removes his sidearm and walks slowly into the sunset, spurs jingling. It is often said that movies mirror real life. Unfortunately this movie has a real life parallel. One of "Ours", has decided to hang up his guns, and retire from active gunfighting. Actually, this decision to retire was not that of the gunfighter. The gunfighter is acting on the advice of one, "Doc Halliday". Doc Halliday, has advised the gunfighter that too much stress has placed a burden on the heart of our hero. In conversation with the gunfighter, the choices he faced (at high noon no doubt) were to lower his stress level or re-locate to Boot Hill. Having a general dislike of hills, our hero didn't have much choice. Too many irons in the fire (including a very charming but sexually demanding wife) necessitated this move. The gunfighter's name is Peter Kearns. Bob Lickacz NFA Edmonton (Peter has often called me, "just to talk", after Ann has had her way with him.) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 21:43:20 -0600 From: "Bill Taylor" Subject: Authorization to transport - prohibited long arms I've been trying for months to get Authorization to Transport permits for 3 "prohibited" firearms (1 converted automatic and 2 FALs). I had applied for a year-long permit back in November, but was not even given the courtesy of a reply. In February I made 20 individual requests, with various combinations of dates / firearms / and clubs that I belong to. Today I was told by phone that they would only issue a maximum of 4 permits per year, regardless of the number of prohibited firearms I owned, or number of clubs I belong to. This is according to "their standards". I requested a written reply, citing the relevant law or regulations that justified depriving me of the use and enjoyment of my lawful belongings. Is this a case of the Surete du Quebec improvising rules, where none exist in law? What is the case in other provinces? Any suggestions as to a "do it yourself" legal recourse? Bill Taylor ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 21:43:28 -0600 From: mikeack@ns.sympatico.ca (Michael Ackermann) Subject: (no subject) My 13 year old daughter asked me the following question today. Sender: owner-cdn-firearms@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Precedence: normal Reply-To: cdn-firearms@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Why is it that the same people who have no trouble distinguising Hollywood fantasy from reality when it comes to the car chases and martial arts sequences we see in the movies and on TV cannot realize that the image of firearms portrayed in these media is equally false? - -- M.J. Ackermann, MD (Mike) President, St. Mary's Shooters Association Box 3, RR 1, Sherbrooke, NS Canada B0J 3C0 902-522-2172 mikeack@ns.sympatico.ca Hope for the best, Plan for the worst ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 21:43:35 -0600 From: mikeack@ns.sympatico.ca (Michael Ackermann) Subject: (no subject) Now THIS is great billboard material!!!! >> Sender: owner-cdn-firearms@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Precedence: normal Reply-To: cdn-firearms@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca This was supposedly published in the Ottawa Citizen. Was it? Can you imagine working for a company that has a little more than 300 employees and has the following statistics: 30 have been accused of spousal abuse 9 have been arrested for fraud 14 have been accused of writing bad checks 95 have directly or indirectly bankrupted at least 2 businesses 4 have done time for assault 55 cannot get a credit card due to bad credit 12 have been arrested on drug related charges 4 have been arrested for shop lifting 16 are currently defendants in lawsuits 62 have been arrested from drunk driving in the last year Can you guess which organization this is? It is the 301 MPs in the current Canadian Parliament. The same group that crank out hundreds of new laws designed to keep the rest of us in line!!!!!!!!! >> - -- M.J. Ackermann, MD (Mike) President, St. Mary's Shooters Association Box 3, RR 1, Sherbrooke, NS Canada B0J 3C0 902-522-2172 mikeack@ns.sympatico.ca Hope for the best, Plan for the worst ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 21:43:41 -0600 From: "Philip Weber" Subject: Instuctors email addresses Does anyone know of a PAL "restricted" instructor in the Kamloops or = Clearwater area of BC????? The one that I know of isn't available to a = while and was wondering if there was any other. Email address would be = great. Thanks Philip ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 21:43:13 -0600 From: "Linda & Rory" Subject: (Revised) semi-trailers, ads, etc. ************************************************************* Winram wrote: > Old semitrailers were used with the > NFA logo and words to the effect of "Gun Control is NOT Crime Control" and > etc. painted the full length of the trailers." > > *** Here, I TOTALLY DISAGREE! The general public, like it or not, is > AGAINST NFA, and will ignore/avoid anything that has its name/logo on it. > You will never get the general public to change their minds when the > comments come from what "they" consider the lunatic fringe. This has been > the wrong tactic all along as I have said for years. All NFA does is preach > to the converted, not the millions, and millions of fence sitters and > sheeples. Sender: owner-cdn-firearms@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Precedence: normal Reply-To: cdn-firearms@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca THE "CAPS" HERE ARE ONLY TO DISTINGUISH MY RESPONSE FROM THE ABOVE INTERCHANGE. WHAT DOES LINDA TOTALLY DISAGREE WITH.... THE TIE TO THE NFA, WHICH I CAN UNDERSTAND HER POINT TO A CERTAIN EXTENT ...OR THE USE OF SEMI TRAILERS TO PUT OUR MESSAGE ON. LETS NOT THROW OUT THE BABY WITH THE ...... THE SEMI TRAILER IDEA IS WORTH PURSUING. ********************************************************************** My reply: You should have read my message more carefully. I said the semi-trailer idea is great and will add here it is worth repeating. My disagreement, if you re-read my comments above and my original post, is that any such endeavours should NOT have any firearms organization logos, nor any reference whatsoever to do with any of the firearms organizations. It just won't wash with the unconverted. They will take one look, think "lunatic fringe", and STOP READING! The "wording" of anything going on these ads must be very well thought out. And Winram writes: "Meanwhile I remain a proud member of The NFA and am always at pains to act in such a way as to enhance our credibility as a legitimate organization of responsible citizens. We need to educate the public about our movement and issues and about The NFA itself. Not hide it away from the public view like it was something dirty." Lex, you may be a proud member, that is not being disputed. The fact is, you "cannot" combine "fighting" the Firearms Act with promoting firearms "organizations". These are two totally separate issues, and you will never succeed in fighting the Firearms Act if you insist on combining the two. Promote "firearms organizations" at gun shows and other such venues if you like where the 'converted' frequent. But don't make the mistake of trying to promote them to any of the millions who know little or nothing of the Firearms Act as a joint effort to fight the Firearms Act. You WILL destroy any chance of defeating the Firearms Act if you do this. I KNOW you have been on this list almost as long as I have or longer. You are educated in what has been happening in this country, and how the general public has responded at every turn. Stop and think about what I am saying and you will probably understand that the two can not be mixed. It is not the converted we need to reach, it'! s all the others, and HAS been all the others all along. Linda ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 21:53:55 -0600 From: "Rod Regier" Subject: [URL] Globe & Mail commentary: Saving the enfeebled parliamentarian http://www.theglobeandmail.com/gam/Commentary/20010402/COWINZ02.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 21:54:03 -0600 From: mikeack@ns.sympatico.ca (Michael Ackermann) Subject: (no subject) How about this for mobile signs. Get those magnetic plastic signs that you see on the side of leased company cars. We could probably get hundreds for the price of one billboard. Once we have a pool of signs with a few dozen different messages, then we can keep them moving aroung within our ranks so that they don't get stale. I'll go to a sign shop and price them. ____________________ I aplolgize for the length of this post, but its worth it! 'Winning the Cultural War' - Charlton Heston's Speech to the Harvard Law School Forum, Feb 16, 1999: "I remember my son when he was five, explaining to his kindergarten class what his father did for a living. "My Daddy," he said, "pretends to be people." There have been quite a few of them. Prophets from the Old and New Testaments, a couple of Christian saints, generals of various nationalities and different centuries, several kings, three American presidents, a French cardinal and two geniuses, including Michelangelo. If you want the ceiling repainted I'll do my best. There always seem to be a lot of different fellows up here. I'm never sure which one of them gets to talk. Right now, I guess I'm the guy. As I pondered our visit tonight it struck me: If my Creator gave me the gift to connect you with the hearts and minds of those great men, then I want to use that same gift now to reconnect you with your own sense of liberty of your own freedom of thought ... your own compass for what is right. Dedicating the memorial at Gettysburg, Abraham Lincoln said of America, "We are now engaged in a great Civil War, testing whether this nation or any nation so conceived and so dedicated can long endure." Those words are true again. I believe that we are again engaged in a great civil war, a cultural war that's about to hijack your birthright to think and say what resides in your heart. I fear you no longer trust the pulsing lifeblood of liberty inside you ... the stuff that made this country rise from wilderness into the miracle that it is. Let me back up. About a year ago I became president of the National Rifle Association, which protects the right to keep and bear arms. I ran for office, I was elected, and now I serve ... I serve as a moving target for the media who've called me everything from "ridiculous" and "duped" to a "brain-injured, senile, crazy old man." I know ... I'm pretty old ... but I'm sure, Lord, I ain't senile. As I have stood in the crosshairs of those who target Second Amendment freedoms, I've realized that firearms are not the only issue. No, it's much, much bigger than that. I've come to understand that a cultural war is raging across our land, in which, with Orwellian fervor, certain acceptable thoughts and speech are mandated. For example, I marched for civil rights with Dr. King in 1963 - long before Hollywood found it fashionable. But when I told an audience last year that white pride is just as valid as black pride or red pride or anyone else's pride, they called me a racist. I've worked with brilliantly talented homosexuals all my life. But when I told an audience that gay rights should extend no further than your rights or my rights, I was called a homophobe. I served in World War II against the Axis powers. But during a speech, when I drew an analogy between singling out innocent Jews and singling out innocent gun owners, I was called an anti-Semite. Everyone I know knows I would never raise a closed fist against my country. But when I asked an audience to oppose this cultural persecution, I was compared to Timothy McVeigh. >From Time magazine to friends and colleagues, they're essentially saying, "Chuck, how dare you speak your mind. You are using language not authorized for public consumption!" But I am not afraid. If Americans believed in political correctness, we'd still be King George's boys-subjects bound to the British crown. In his book, "The End of Sanity," Martin Gross writes that "blatantly irrational behavior is rapidly being established as the norm in almost every area of human endeavor. There seem to be new customs, new rules, new anti-intellectual theories regularly foisted on us from every direction. Underneath, the nation is roiling. Americans know something without a name is undermining the nation, turning the mind mushy when it comes to separating truth from falsehood and right from wrong. And they don't like it." Let me read a few examples. At Antioch college in Ohio, young men seeking intimacy with a coed must get verbal permission at each step of the process from kissing to petting to final copulation ... all clearly spelled out in a printed college directive. In New Jersey, despite the death of several patients nationwide who had been infected by dentists who had concealed their AIDs --- the state commissioner announced that health providers who are HIV-positive need not.. need not ..... tell their patients that they are infected. At William and Mary, students tried to change the name of the school team "The Tribe" because it was supposedly insulting to local Indians, only to learn that authentic Virginia chiefs truly like the name. In San Francisco, city fathers passed an ordinance protecting the rights of transvestites to cross-dress on the job, and for transsexuals to have separate toilet facilities while undergoing sex change surgery. In New York City, kids who don't speak a word of Spanish have been placed in bilingual classes to learn their three R's in Spanish solely because their last names sound Hispanic. At the University of Pennsylvania, in a state where thousands died at Gettysburg opposing slavery, the president of that college officially set up segregated dormitory space for black students. Yeah, I know ... that's out of bounds now. Dr. King said "Negroes." Jimmy Baldwin and most of us on the March said "black." But it's a no-no now. For me, hyphenated identities are awkward ... particularly "Native-American." I'm a Native American, for God's sake. I also happen to be a blood-initiated brother of the Miniconjou Sioux. On my wife's side, my grandson is a thirteenth generation native American ... with a capital letter on "American." Finally, just last month ... David Howard, head of the Washington D.C.,Office of Public Advocate, used the word "niggardly" while talking to colleagues about budgetary matters. Of course, "niggardly" means stingy or scanty. But within days Howard was forced to publicly apologize and resign. As columnist Tony Snow wrote: "David Howard got fired because some people in public employ were morons who (a) didn't know the meaning of niggardly, (b) didn't know how to use a dictionary to discover the meaning, and (c) actually demanded that he apologize for their ignorance." What does all of this mean? It means that telling us what to think has evolved into telling us what to say, so telling us what to do can't be far behind. Before you claim to be a champion of free thought, tell me: Why did political correctness originate on America's campuses? And why do you continue to tolerate it? Why do you, who're supposed to debate ideas, surrender to their suppression? Let's be honest. Who here thinks your professors can say what they really believe? It scares me to death, and should scare you too, that the superstition of political correctness rules the halls of reason. You are the best and the brightest. You, here in the fertile cradle of American academia, here in the castle of learning on the Charles River, you are the cream. But I submit that you, and your counterparts across the land, are the most socially conformed and politically silenced generation since Concord Bridge. And as long as you validate that...and abide it... you are-by your grandfathers' standards-cowards. Here's another example. Right now at more than one major university, Second Amendment scholars and researchers are being told to shut up about their findings or they'll lose their jobs. Why? Because their research findings would undermine big-city mayor's pending lawsuits that seek to extort hundreds of millions of dollars from firearm manufacturers. I don't care what you think about guns. But if you are not shocked at that, I am shocked at you. Who will guard the raw material of unfettered ideas, if not you? Who will defend the core value of academia, if you supposed soldiers of free thought and expression lay down your arms and plead, "Don't shoot me." If you talk about race, it does not make you a racist. If you see distinctions between the genders, it does not make you a sexist. If you think critically about a denomination, it does not make you anti-religion. If you accept but don't celebrate homosexuality, it does not make you a homophobe. Don't let America's universities continue to serve as incubators for this rampant epidemic of new McCarthyism. But what can you do? How can anyone prevail against such pervasive social subjugation? The answer's been here all along. I learned it 36 years ago, on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial in Washington, DC, standing with Dr. Martin Luther King and two thousand people. You simply ... disobey. Peaceably, yes. Respectfully, of course. Nonviolently, absolutely. But when told how to think or what to say or how to behave, we don't. We disobey social protocol that stifles and stigmatizes personal freedom. I learned the awesome power of disobedience from Dr. King ... who learned it from Gandhi, and Thoreau, and Jesus, and every other great man who led those in the right against those with the might. Disobedience is in our DNA. We feel innate kinship with that disobedient spirit that tossed tea into Boston Harbor, that sent Thoreau to jail, that refused to sit in the back of the bus, that protested a war in Viet Nam. In that same spirit, I am asking you to disavow cultural correctness with massive disobedience of rogue authority, social directives and onerous laws that weaken personal freedom. But be careful ... it hurts. Disobedience demands that you put yourself at risk. Dr. King stood on lots of balconies. You must be willing to be humiliated ... to endure the modern-day equivalent of the police dogs at Montgomery and the water cannons at Selma. You must be willing to experience discomfort. I'm not complaining, but my own decades of social activism have taken their toll on me. Let me tell you a story. A few years back I heard about a rapper named Ice-T who was selling a CD called "Cop Killer" celebrating ambushing and murdering police officers. It was being marketed by none other than Time/Warner, the biggest entertainment conglomerate in the world. Police across the country were outraged. Rightfully so-at least one had been murdered. But Time/Warner was stonewalling because the CD was a cash cow for them, and the media were tiptoeing around it because the rapper was black. I heard Time/Warner had a stockholders meeting scheduled in Beverly Hills. I owned some shares at the time, so I decided to attend. What I did there was against the advice of my family and colleagues. I asked for the floor. To a hushed room of a thousand average American stockholders, I simply read the full lyrics of "Cop Killer"- every vicious, vulgar, instructional word. "I GOT MY 12 GAUGE SAWED OFF. I GOT MY HEADLIGHTS TURNED OFF. I'M ABOUT TO BUST SOME SHOTS OFF. I'M ABOUT TO DUST SOME COPS OFF..." It got worse, a lot worse. I won't read the rest of it to you. But trust me, the room was a sea of shocked, frozen, blanched faces. The Time/Warner executives squirmed in their chairs and stared at their shoes. They hated me for that. Then I delivered another volley of sick lyric brimming with racist filth, where Ice-T fantasizes about sodomizing two12-year old nieces of Al and Tipper Gore. "SHE PUSHED HER BUTT AGAINST MY ...." Well, I won't do to you here what I did to them. Let's just say I left the room in echoing silence. When I read the lyrics to the waiting press corps, one of them said "We can't print that." "I know," I replied, "but Time/Warner's selling it." Two months later, Time/Warner terminated Ice-T's contract. I'll never be offered another film by Warner's, or get a good review from Time magazine. But disobedience means you must be willing to act, not just talk. When a mugger sues his elderly victim for defending herself ... jam the switchboard of the district attorney's office. When your university is pressured to lower standards until 80% of the students graduate with honors... choke the halls of the board of regents. When an 8-year-old boy pecks a girl's cheek on the playground and gets hauled into court for sexual harassmentmarch on that school and block its doorways. When someone you elected is seduced by political power and betrays you...petition them, oust them, banish them. When Time magazine's cover portrays millennium nuts as deranged, crazy Christians holding a cross as it did last month ... boycott their magazine and the products it advertises. So that this nation may long endure, I urge you to follow in the hallowed footsteps of the great disobedience's of history that freed exiles, foundedreligions, defeated tyrants, and yes, in the hands of an aroused rabble in arms and a few great men, by God's grace, built this country. If Dr. King were here, I think he would agree. Thank you. ______________________________ - -- M.J. 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