From: owner-cdn-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca on behalf of Cdn-Firearms Digest [owner-cdn-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca] Sent: Tuesday, 01 May, 2001 08:20 To: cdn-firearms-digest@broadway.sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Subject: Cdn-Firearms Digest V3 #748 Cdn-Firearms Digest Tuesday, May 1 2001 Volume 03 : Number 748 In this issue: Gun Confiscation Day; was:Bill C-15 Debate Put-Off Again [none] Complaints of government secrecy double Poll at Excite.com CFC - Information for Prosecutors & JPs CFC - Revised Fact Sheet on Sustenance Hunters [fwd] Ten Really Good Reasons to Ban Guns By Bruce Gold Alliance's feisty policy guru no stranger to controversy Lethbridge chief defends officer in fatal shooting Armed pair rob jewelry store Merritt RCMP arrest suspected Klansman ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 09:33:53 -0600 From: "Brad Thorarinson" Subject: Gun Confiscation Day; was:Bill C-15 Debate Put-Off Again So, unless Annie & her minions extend the amnesty farce once again (my guess), July 1, 2001 will be Gun Confiscation Day for small handguns. It used to be, not that long ago, that there was something actually worth celebrating on that date of July 1. Dominion Day, Confederation Day, that sappy Canada Day appellation which is its current designation, or Gun Confiscation Day, I don't think I'll feel much like celebrating this July 1. I wonder what the Old Guys who thought up this country, or the young Men and Women who died under its various banners over the years, would think of the state we've allowed this country to fall to. Still, it _is_ a great country, with good people and vast potential. We are lucky compared to much of the world. Maybe I'll go to the range & give this country a 21-gun salute; I'll have to buy a few more guns I guess. Brad From: "Breitkreuz, Garry - Assistant 1" > Today, we learned from the government that debate of Bill C-15 has > been put > off again. It was scheduled for debate for today (April 26th), then > rescheduled to April 30th, and now it's not even on the schedule for > May. > > The government has three categories identifying legislative > priorities. C-15 > is listed as "House to advance as possible", the lowest priority. > The top > priority is "House and Senate to pass by June" with the second being > "House > to pass by June". ... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 09:36:17 -0600 From: Dr Grant Bjornson Subject: [none] I just found a copy of the French lyrics, en francais, and their translation into English. The theme is so similar to the English version, this promotional idea would make sense in both anguages. -- GB. O Canada! O Canada! Terre de nos aïeux, Ton front est ceint de fleurons glorieux! Car ton bras sait porter l'épée, Il sait porter la croix! Ton histoire est une épopée Des plus brillants exploits. Et ta valeur, de foi trempée, Protégera nos foyers et nos droits. Protégera nos foyers et nos droits. English Translation of the French Version of the National Anthem 1.O Canada! Land of our forefathers Thy brow is wreathed with a glorious garland of flowers. As in thy arm ready to wield the sword, So also is it ready to carry the cross. Thy history is an epic Of the most brilliant exploits. Ch. Thy valour steeped in faith Will protect our homes and our rights Will protect our homes and our rights. Subject: could we use this song in a PR campaign? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, let me run this one by you... Do you think this well-known verse would be a good jingle to use in a pro-firearms ad campaign such as proposed by some user groups (NFA and others)? (I guess I am a little sarcastic, knowing that present government policies CONTRADICT this song that is supposed to be at the core of our CANADIAN CONSCIOUSNESS!) "O Canada we stand on guard for thee [repeat]..." Does someone have a copy of the French lyrics, to see if they say anything similar? As you know, the irony is: how can anyone stand on guard for Canada if the people are not encouraged to develop the skills and the means to do so? -- GB ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 09:38:16 -0600 From: "Breitkreuz, Garry - Assistant 1" Subject: Complaints of government secrecy double PUBLICATION: National Post DATE: 2001.04.30 EDITION: National SECTION: Canada PAGE: A4 BYLINE: Ian Jack, National Post; with files from Jim Bronskill Southam News SOURCE: National Post; Southam News DATELINE: OTTAWA Canada ILLUSTRATION:Black & White Photo: Dave Chan, Ottawa Citizen / John Reid, the Information Commissioner, says at least bureaucrats have stopped threatening his staff. HEADLINE: Complaints of government secrecy double: 'The backlog [in dealing with complaints] is going to be significantly higher': Documents withheld OTTAWA - Complaints of stonewalling over access to government documents have doubled in the past year, says John Reid, the federal Information Commissioner. Mr. Reid, who warned last year of a culture of hostility to the public's right to know emanating from the highest reaches of government, said the situation is far worse this year. He is in the midst of preparing his annual report, to be released at the end of May, but said the preliminary numbers for the year just ended show a doubling in the number of appeals filed with his office. Last year, there were 1,359 complaints filed with the commissioner. Canadians seeking government information through the Access to Information Act can appeal to the Information Commissioner if they are turned down. He has the power to investigate their complaints but must go to Federal Court to force disclosure. "The final figures will probably show a doubling," he said in an interview. "I'm quite upset about that." The number of requests for information has also increased, but only by about 25%, not nearly enough to account for the jump in complaints, Mr. Reid said. Further, he said there have been remarkably few complaints about information being withheld by Human Resources Development Canada -- the department at the centre of one of last year's biggest scandals -- or over the Prime Minister's handling of affairs in his home riding of Shawinigan. That indicates the rest of government is not performing well, he said. "The backlog is going to be significantly higher than it was last year," he said. "This is causing me a lot of pain." Mr. Reid said it is too early for him to talk about the reasons for the increase. Last year, he warned, "There is a full counterattack in progress against the office of the Information Commissioner," led by the Prime Minister's Office, the Privy Council Office, Treasury Board and the Department of Justice. "The backlash has become tangible" against the commissioner's investigations, generated by a "palpable animosity towards the right of access," he said then. Members of his staff had their careers threatened by bureaucrats determined to stall or prevent the release of information to taxpayers, he alleged in last year's report. At the time, he added that intimidation by senior officials was a problem not only for his staff, but for access co-ordinators in government departments who receive and process requests from the public, some of whom had encountered "hostility and career limitations" simply for doing their jobs. That has since stopped, Mr. Reid said, crediting the furor his comments sparked in the House of Commons. Jean Chretien, the Prime Minister, called such actions unacceptable in response to Opposition demands for an explanation, and that sent the appropriate signal to bureaucrats, Mr. Reid said. "All the nasties I was picking up have stopped." The commissioner will be in court again soon to defend an earlier ruling giving his officials access to the Prime Minister's agenda. The Prime Minister's Office said on Friday it is appealing to the Supreme Court a Federal Court of Appeal decision granting the access in a case involving an unidentified complainant's quest to know Mr. Chretien's official whereabouts a few years ago. The Information Commissioner, an officer of Parliament, advocates for more open government and takes on cases where citizens allege the government is not giving out information it is legally bound to provide. The Access to Information Act says government information should be available to citizens with only limited exceptions. The Act allows citizens who pay $5 to seek records held by federal departments and agencies, including memos, expense reports and audits. However, critics consider the procedures established under the law slow and overly restrictive. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 15:11:49 -0600 From: jf_avon@freedom.net Subject: Poll at Excite.com http://news.excite.com/news/poll/ "Do you agree or disagree with the NY State Supreme Court ruling that "gun makers cannot be held responsible for shooting deaths or injuries because of their marketing practices"? " Agree 78% => 36263 votes Disagree 17% => 8136 votes Not sure 3% => 1618 votes Current Vote Tally: 46017 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 15:20:53 -0600 From: "Breitkreuz, Garry - Assistant 1" Subject: CFC - Information for Prosecutors & JPs Information by Group Prosecutors Sender: owner-cdn-firearms@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Precedence: normal Reply-To: cdn-firearms@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca http://www.cfc-ccaf.gc.ca/portals/jop/default.asp Information by Group Justices of the Peace ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 15:22:17 -0600 From: "Breitkreuz, Garry - Assistant 1" Subject: CFC - Revised Fact Sheet on Sustenance Hunters http://www.cfc-ccaf.gc.ca/owners&users/fact_sheets/sustenance_en.asp I am a sustenance hunter or trapper Revised April 18, 2001 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 20:04:54 -0600 From: "Rod Regier" Subject: [fwd] Ten Really Good Reasons to Ban Guns By Bruce Gold (US oriented) {irony} Sender: owner-cdn-firearms@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Precedence: normal Reply-To: cdn-firearms@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Ten Really Good Reasons to Ban Guns By Bruce Gold 1. Guns are used in self-defense over 2 million times a year. However, this makes the attempted crime a "non-event," which necessarily complicates the Police investigation. Without civilian ownership of guns, these Police investigations would not have been compromised. Civilians should leave crime prevention to the Police who are properly equipped to investigate following the crime's completion. 2. Some .004 % (4/1000 of 1%) of guns are used in crime each year. This is way too high. All guns should be banned 3. Guns are unnecessary. In 98% of civilian gun defenses, no shot is fired. If you are not going to fire a shot, you clearly don't need a gun. This proves that the guns are unnecessary. Banning guns will prevent these unnecessary defenses. 4. Guns cause criminal migration. In tough gun law Washington [D.C.], violent crime rates are very high. This high crime rate is caused by the migration of criminals from gun havens like Virginia. This migration is caused by the criminal's cowardly avoidance of armed householders and concealed carry civilians. This criminal migration is detrimental to helpless unarmed citizens in no gun areas and must be stopped. Guns should be banned everywhere. 5. Most gun crimes are committed by inner city gangs and drug dealers. These relatively small and geographically restricted groups consistently commit the majority of gun crimes, which usually peak as turf wars erupt over Drug War changes. The best way to prevent this is by denying guns to all law abiding people everywhere. 6. No woman needs to protect herself from rape, assault or murder. The Police will protect them by investigating the crime after the fact. Remember, Police paperwork is all the protection anyone really needs. 7. Guns owners are disrespectful of authority. Good citizens should completely rely on the authorities. A failure to do so is an invariable sign of improper and overly independent attitudes. Failure to completely and absolutely trust and depend on the authorities is excessive democracy and sends a bad message to children. 8. Guns owners engaging in self-defense are taking the law into their own hands. This is wrong. Only the Police and Criminals have the right to take the law into their own hands. It should be kept out of the hands of citizens. 9. Children and young people should remain ignorant about guns. Real guns and real gun knowledge dissipates the fantasies created by violent video games and TV. Ignorance once lost, can never be restored and needs to be protected. 10. Guns reduce people's reliance on the Police and Government. This fosters a mistaken belief in "rights." No person has the right to question authority. No person should be less then 100% dependent on authority. This is fundamental to social order. Banning guns will help to establish the Order the authorities want. This is good. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 08:19:23 -0600 From: "Breitkreuz, Garry - Assistant 1" Subject: Alliance's feisty policy guru no stranger to controversy PUBLICATION: The Edmonton Journal DATE: 2001.05.01 EDITION: FINAL SECTION: Top Copy PAGE: A3 BYLINE: Larry Johnsrude and Allan Chambers, Journal Staff Writers SOURCE: The Edmonton Journal DATELINE: Edmonton ILLUSTRATION: Photo: File Photo /Ted Morton's (left) views are said to be contentious, even by Canadian Alliance party standards. - -------------------------------------------------------------------- - -------- - ---- Alliance's feisty policy guru no stranger to controversy: Ted Morton says his goal to help party `turn the corner' - -------------------------------------------------------------------- - -------- - ---- As Stockwell Day's new policy guru, Ted Morton hopes to get the Canadian Alliance back on track by focusing on strategy instead of questions about party leadership. ``I think Stock and the party have been distracted from policy and principle issues by the series of mishaps that have cropped up since the election,'' said Morton, a political scientist from the University of Calgary and one of Alberta's nominees to the Senate. ``I'm hoping we can turn the corner and I can help get the party and leader back on the job of being an effective Opposition.'' Morton was appointed director of research and policy last week, just days after Edmonton MP Deb Grey, Alliance's longest-serving elected member, quit her key post as deputy leader and Ian Todd quit as Day's chief of staff. ``The party is obviously in troubled times,'' said Morton, who has been in Ottawa for several days helping the leader come up with a plan to get the party back on track. Day has promised to have his strategy ready for a caucus meeting on Wednesday . But Morton's arrival is unlikely to reduce the level of controversy at Alliance headquarters, even if he succeeds in bringing the focus back to policy, said his long-time friend and fellow political scientist Barry Cooper. Morton has views that are contentious, even in Alliance circles. And he has shown no desire in the past to soft-pedal them. ``He will bring a certain intellectual concentration that has been absent,'' Cooper said. ``He is not afraid to irritate people.'' In newspaper columns, books and political speeches, Morton has taken positions regarded as hard-right -- even in the old Reform Party, before it became the Alliance and set out to smooth its rough edges in order to appeal to more voters. Morton said he believes Alliance has good policies that have been overshadowed by a series of mistakes by the leader. Most recently, Day has been criticized for questioning the motives of a Quebec judge involved in an investigation close to Prime Minister Jean Chretien. Before that, he was lambasted for admitting to having met with a private investigator who offered to dig up dirt on the Liberals -- and later denying he had met the man. The Alliance is pressing the Canadian Judicial Council for an inquiry to determine if Justice Joel Silcoff of Quebec Superior Court acted properly in approving a search of bank documents relating to the Auberge Grand-Mere, which is at the centre of controversy involving the prime minister. As a lawyer, Silcoff had been partner in a firm that represented the Grand-Mere golf course, in which Chretien had an interest. Day has suggested that may have put him in a conflict-of-interest. Alliance sources have told The Journal that Todd quit because he refused to approve the use of public funds to defend Day in a lawsuit being contemplated by the judge. Morton, an outspoken critic of the justice system, acknowledged there may have been nervousness in the Alliance about Day getting into another legal spat after his taxpayer-backed $800,000 settlement of a defamation lawsuit launched by Red Deer school trustee Lorne Goddard. ``That's the way it is being spun,'' said Morton. ``But if you look at his comments ... it's clearly fair comment.'' He said he supports the party's pursuit of an investigation into Silcoff's actions. Morton has been no stranger to controversy in the past. In his acceptance speech when he won the Reform party nod to run in Alberta's 1998 Senate nominee election, he declared that the country couldn't afford ``another 30 years of French kissing'' with Quebec. He went on to attack judicial activism, left-wing special interest groups, control laws, gay rights and the wheat board. Last year, he and fellow Calgary academic Rainer Knopff published a book that rigorously argued one of Morton's favourite themes -- that the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms drastically increased the power of judges. The book, called The Charter Revolution and the Court Party, argued that the judges are being urged on by a ``court party'' consisting of feminists, civil liberties advocates, social activists and others to interpret laws more radically and liberally than Parliament ever intended. Morton was also a member of a group of Calgary academics and conservative activists who argued after the federal election last year that Alberta should set up a ``firewall'' to prevent Ottawa from raiding the province's resources and trampling its powers. Cooper said his friend won't back away from his views. ``Ted has a pretty clear understanding of the structure of politics in Canada,'' said Cooper. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 08:19:36 -0600 From: "Breitkreuz, Garry - Assistant 1" Subject: Lethbridge chief defends officer in fatal shooting PUBLICATION: The StarPhoenix (Saskatoon) DATE: 2001.05.01 EDITION: FINAL SECTION: National PAGE: B7 SOURCE: Canadian Press DATELINE: LETHBRIDGE, Alta. - -------------------------------------------------------------------- - -------- - ---- Lethbridge chief defends officer in fatal shooting - -------------------------------------------------------------------- - -------- - ---- LETHBRIDGE, Alta. (CP) -- A matter of a minute could have been the difference between life and death for a man shot and killed by a police officer in Lethbridge on the weekend. Chief John LaFlamme confirmed Monday that a minute after one of his officers shot a knife-wielding man in a downtown apartment building, another officer arrived on the scene with a non-lethal electric stun called a Taser. But LaFlamme defended the actions of the officer who shot the man and refused to speculate on whether using the Taser could have resolved the confrontation without bloodshed. ``Whether I can say today that it would have defused the situation differently, I'm not able to comment on that,'' LaFlamme told a news conference. ``If this in fact was a situation that warranted Taser technology, that is something that will have to be determined in the future.'' Allan Thomas Symons, 53, of Lethbridge died Sunday after being shot by one of two officers who responded to a 911 call warning of a man carrying a large knife. One of the officers confronted the suspect in an apartment building hallway. ``The constable then found himself in a position where he had to resort to the use of deadly force,'' LaFlamme said. ``Two shots were fired -- both striking the man with the knife.'' The shooting raised memories of a case in June 1998, when a Lethbridge police officer fatally shot a schizophrenic man armed with a machete. That constable was later cleared of any wrongdoing. LaFlamme refused to identify the officer involved in Sunday's shooting except to say he is a 10-year police veteran. He is on administrative leave and receiving counselling. ``With the information conveyed to me at this time, I am confident the constable involved acted appropriately,'' he said. ``The man was told on more than one occasion to drop the knife.'' ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 08:19:16 -0600 From: "Breitkreuz, Garry - Assistant 1" Subject: Armed pair rob jewelry store PUBLICATION: The Kitchener-Waterloo Record DATE: 2001.04.30 SECTION: Local PAGE: B02 SOURCE: Record Staff - -------------------------------------------------------------------- - -------- - ---- Armed pair rob jewelry store - -------------------------------------------------------------------- - -------- - ---- A Kitchener jewelry store was robbed yesterday by two men, one of them carrying a shotgun. The robbers entered Royal Jewellers in the Hiway Centre on Weber Street East around 1 p.m. The one not carrying the smashed display cases and removed items, police said. They were seen getting into a white Chrysler Neon which turned out to have been stolen from Halton Region. It was found abandoned in the Charcoal Steak House garage. Neither of the two clerks in the store was harmed. The suspects were described as being in their late teens or early 20s. One was black and wore a parka with a bird-like symbol on the hood. The other was white. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 08:19:43 -0600 From: "Breitkreuz, Garry - Assistant 1" Subject: Merritt RCMP arrest suspected Klansman PUBLICATION: The Province DATE: 2001.05.01 EDITION: FINAL SECTION: News PAGE: A6 BYLINE: Salim Jiwa SOURCE: The Province DATELINE: KAMLOOPS ILLUSTRATION: Color Photo: The Province / RCMP seized explosives and weapons from this home owned by William Patrick Nicholson, a suspected Klansman.; Color Photo: The Province / Nicholson ran `KKKanada' website from his Merritt home. - -------------------------------------------------------------------- - -------- - ---- Merritt RCMP arrest suspected Klansman - -------------------------------------------------------------------- - -------- - ---- KAMLOOPS -- A suspected Ku Klux Klan grand wizard has been charged with possession of explosives and illegal guns after a police raid on an isolated ranch atop a hill near Merritt. William Patrick Nicholson, 42, was arrested last Thursday in a raid by a small army of RCMP. ``With the assistance of the emergency response team from Kamloops and the explosive disposal unit from Vancouver, investigators seized one prohibited sawed-off shotgun, seven unlicensed , large quantities of ammunition, five sticks of explosive material and detonation caps,'' an RCMP news release said. Another home nearby was also searched and seven guns seized. ``They were using their tactical force, the bomb squad, and they even had national security investigators here who asked me questions about the KKK and what I knew about it,'' said the neighbor, who was detained for seven hours and questioned about KKK activities. ``I'd say there were at least 15 policemen altogether,'' said the man, interviewed at his mountaintop home several kilometres outside Merritt. Nicholson, in a crewcut and a close-trimmed moustache, appeared in Kamloops provincial court yesterday to face five charges relating to possession of explosives, guns and marijuana. He was remanded in custody until a May 14 bail hearing. Cpl. Garrett Woolsey and Const. Duncan Hewitt of Merritt RCMP would not comment about KKK activities, citing an ongoing investigation. But there have been murmurs in recent days of white supremacist activity in the quiet, multi-racial town of about 9,000, home also to large Sikh and native populations. A local newspaper received a letter to the editor from a supremacist group proclaiming its presence but claiming it meant no harm to anyone. The Province has learned the Merritt KKK group could have as many as 25 members and that Nicholson ran an Internet home page called ``KKKanada.'' Nicholson's neighbor, who talked to The Province on condition of anonymity, said he was not a member of the KKK but Nicholson had shown him his Internet home page. ``When the cops came I was outside with my semi-automatic .22. They then searched my house and took away all my guns. They asked me what I knew about the KKK and activities at Bill's house, and I said I knew nothing,'' he said. ``I am an immigrant myself, I came here from Belfast in 1978. I don't care if people are green, white or brown,'' he said. ``I guess I am a white Catholic and I am Irish so that is enough to make them suspect me.'' The man said he was held for seven hours Thursday. ``They got nothing,'' he said. ``They charged me with one count of having an unlicensed gun -- big deal.'' The neighbour said he does not believe Nicholson is a racist. The KKK home page ``was just his thing, thats all,'' he said. ``His wife Denise is the nicest person in the world and she is half native and half white and she works with underprivileged native kids -- that shows they are not racists.'' A man who talked to Nicholson's wife said police carted away white gowns and KKK identification cards, including one which identified Nicholson as the grand wizard of the Klan. So far no hate-related charge has been laid. In March Liberal MP Hedy Fry told the Commons that in Prince George, ``crosses are being burned on lawns as we speak.'' Fry later withdrew the charge. 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