From: owner-cdn-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca on behalf of Cdn-Firearms Digest [owner-cdn-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca] Sent: Tuesday, 22 May, 2001 13:20 To: cdn-firearms-digest@broadway.sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Subject: Cdn-Firearms Digest V3 #783 Cdn-Firearms Digest Tuesday, May 22 2001 Volume 03 : Number 783 In this issue: =?iso-8859-1?Q?COMMUNIQU=C9_DE_PRESSE_-_Le_22_mai_2001=09?= Re: Cdn-Firearms Digest V3 #782 Moderator's note at the end. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 13:19:00 -0600 From: "Breitkreuz, Garry - Assistant 1" Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?COMMUNIQU=C9_DE_PRESSE_-_Le_22_mai_2001=09?= COMMUNIQUÉ DE PRESSE Le 22 mai 2001 Pour diffusion immédiate LE GOUVERNEMENT FAIT PLUS CONFIANCE AUX ÉTRANGERS QU'À SES PROPRES CITOYENS EN MATIÈRE D'ARMES À FEU « Pourquoi certaines règles pour les étrangers et d'autres pour les citoyens canadiens? Ça n'a pas de sens. » Yorkton - Garry Breitkreuz, député de Yorkton-Melville, a donné aujourd'hui un autre exemple de l'hypocrisie des Libéraux face à la législation sur les armes à feu. « Les visiteurs peuvent apporter des armes au Canada sans devoir se prêter à la vérification obligatoire de leurs antécédents ou prouver qu'ils ne présentent aucun risque pour la sécurité publique, comme doivent le faire les propriétaires d'armes canadiens », a indiqué M. Breitkreuz. « Déclarez vos armes à la frontière, payez vos 50 $ et bienvenue chez nous; voilà tout ce qu'on demande aux étrangers. Les propriétaires d'armes canadiens doivent quant à eux se prêter à une foule de chinoiseries administratives et de vérifications de sécurité et répondre à un barrage de questions sur leur passé et leur présent, ce qui est une violation de leur droit à la vie privée. Le gouvernement ne vérifie même pas si ces étrangers repartent avec leurs armes. Ce qui élimine une autre piètre excuse invoquée par le ministre de la Justice pour justifier l'enregistrement de toutes les armes à feu. » Règles assouplies pour les étrangers qui entrent au Canada avec des armes à feu (1) Remplir un formulaire de Déclaration d'armes à feu pour non-résident (une page). (2) Faire vérifier ses armes à feu par un agent des douanes et signer le formulaire devant lui. (3) Payer un droit de 50 $ CAN pour obtenir un permis d'armes à feu et un certificat d'enregistrement temporaires. (4) Le permis temporaire permet d'apporter au Canada autant d'armes à feu qu'on veut. (5) Le permis temporaire permet aussi d'apporter au Canada 200 balles en franchise de douane et d'acheter d'autres munitions ici. (6) Non, il n'est pas nécessaire de signaler aux Douanes qu'on remporte ses armes en quittant. § On ne vérifie pas si le visiteur a un casier judiciaire; § On ne vérifie pas ses antécédents et on n'exige pas de références; § On ne lui pose pas de questions personnelles gênantes sur sa vie; § On ne lui demande pas d'avoir suivi un cours de maniement des armes à feu ni de prouver qu'il sait se servir d'une arme; § Il n'y a pas de période d'attente. Règles sévères pour les propriétaires d'armes canadiens responsables (1) Réussir le Cours canadien de sécurité dans le maniement des armes à feu. (2) Remplir un formulaire de Demande de permis d'armes à feu (2 pages). (3) Se faire photographier et demander à un répondant de signer au dos de la photo et de contresigner le formulaire de demande. (4) Répondre à huit questions très personnelles, comme : Vous a-t-on déjà diagnostiqué une dépression nerveuse ou traité pour une dépression nerveuse, ou avez-vous déjà vécu un divorce, une séparation ou une faillite? (On ne pose aucune de ces questions aux visiteurs.) (5) Faire contresigner son formulaire de demande par le conjoint ou le conjoint de fait. (6) Fournir les noms, adresse et numéro de téléphone de l'ancien conjoint ou conjoint de fait. (7) Faire contresigner son formulaire de demande par l'ancien conjoint ou conjoint de fait. (8) Fournir les noms, adresse et numéro de téléphone de deux personnes pouvant fournir des référence (à l'exclusion du conjoint). (9) Payer un droit de 60 $ CAN pour obtenir un Permis de possession et d'acquisition d'armes à feu. (10) Il y a une période d'attente obligatoire de 28 jours. « Voilà qui est typique de la mauvaise gestion du Ministère dans le dossier des armes à feu. Vérifier les armes qui entrent au pays, mais ne pas vérifier si elles en ressortent. N'est-ce par la preuve que le projet de loi C-68 n'a jamais eu pour but de contrôler toutes les armes à feu qui entrent au pays ou qui en ressortent? », s'interroge M. Breitkreuz. « Même au bout de six ans, ça ne marche toujours pas! Les Libéraux finiront-ils par comprendre, et par se décider à révoquer cette loi mal faite et la remplacer par quelque chose qui fonctionnera? » - - 30 - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 13:19:08 -0600 From: "Nicole Cloutier" Subject: Re: Cdn-Firearms Digest V3 #782 Moderator's note at the end. Allo Julie, Dans ce "Digest" rien d'important sauf ce message de Mr. Breitkreuz encore. Tu trouveras son message a la fin du "Digest", le dernier je crois..... Nic Garry Breitkreuz, GOV'T TRUSTS FOREIGN VISITORS WITH GUNS MORE THAN ITS OWN CITIZENS >>> owner-cdn-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca 05/22/01 12:18PM >>> Cdn-Firearms Digest Tuesday, May 22 2001 Volume 03 : Number 782 In this issue: Saskatoon: Deadly shootout Feed the Gargoyle Fwd: NEWS - UK antihunt man changes spots Convicted officer gets probation Editorial: Gun laws at work GOV'T TRUSTS FOREIGN VISITORS WITH GUNS MORE THAN ITS OWN CITIZENS - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 08:15:41 -0600 From: "Breitkreuz, Garry - Assistant 1" Subject: Saskatoon: Deadly shootout PUBLICATION: The StarPhoenix (Saskatoon) DATE: 2001.05.22 EDITION: FINAL SECTION: News PAGE: A1 / Front BYLINE: Jason Warick SOURCE: The StarPhoenix ILLUSTRATION: Colour Photo: Richard Marjan, The StarPhoenix / Police comb area near victim's truck (right) along Highway 41; Colour Photo: Richard Marjan, The StarPhoenix / The Beerling Crescent home of shooting victim.; Colour Photo: Richard Marjan, The StarPhoenix / Police mark the spot where second spike belt was laid. - - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - - ---- Deadly shootout: `I'm sure he just snapped,' friend says of man killed by police - - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - - ---- A father from the Silverspring neighbourhood who was killed in a shootout with police Sunday night probably ``just snapped'' from the pressure of mounting debts, a failed business, and worries about his marriage, says one of his best friends. ``He's been under a lot of pressure. Everything was coming to a head, (but) I never thought it would get to this,'' friend Andrew Clewes said in an interview Monday evening. Keldon McMillan, 33, was killed following a chase and standoff on Highway 41 near Wakaw. According to police, McMillan refused to drop his handgun, then shot a police dog. He had aimed his gun toward police when they opened fire. He died at the scene. McMillan was depressed about losing his business, McMillan Homes, earlier in the year, but it wasn't until two weekends ago that Clewes discovered just how bad things were for his friend. During a softball tournament in Pike Lake on May 12, McMillan broke down crying and confided to Clewes that he was involved in legal action with a bank, his partners, and various suppliers. He believed he was on the verge of losing his upscale Beerling Crescent home. He also said he was worried about his marriage, even though he and his wife, a local nurse, had recently returned from a vacation in the Dominican Republic. ``They were going to lose everything. He thought he was going to lose his wife, too. It wasn't the Keldon I knew,'' said Clewes, who drives bus for people with special needs. ``I'm sure he just snapped. Everybody's stunned.'' According to Clewes, McMillan ``would give you the shirt off his back.'' McMillan gave Clewes an interest-free loan of several thousand dollars a few years ago. He was also active in the local sports scene, sponsoring a men's and a women's softball team with uniforms and cash until the business bankruptcy forced him to cancel the sponsorships this year. He also sponsored a car at Bridge City Speedway. McMillan had a three-year-old daughter with his wife, as well as a nine-year-old son from a previous relationship. He drove to a town near Regina every other weekend to pick up his son and take him ice fishing or hunting, Clewes said. ``I've known Keldon for years. He was a kind family man,'' Clewes said. Although McMillan had up to 10 different hunting rifles, Clewes wasn't aware he owned any handguns. Neither Clewes nor any of his other friends or neighbours interviewed could recall McMillan having any violent incidents or previous run-ins with police until this past weekend. He played outfield on the softball team, the McMillan Builders and ``could smack a ball,'' Clewes said. He also enjoyed hockey and various other outdoor sports. Another ball teammate, Kory Szuba, called McMillan ``just a fantastic guy. This is a total surprise, totally out of character for him. He was probably one of the most relaxed guys you'll ever meet.'' This is the second time in a month that Saskatoon-area police have shot and killed a suspect, and both incidents took place on Highway 41. Melvin Bigsky was killed by a Saskatoon RCMP officer Apr. 27 after he rammed the police car and assaulted the officer. According to a police press release, this weekend's chain of events began when McMillan's wife contacted Saskatoon police ``with respect to personal concerns about her husband.'' ``As a result of that call, police investigators searched McMillan's residence and seized several weapons, although police were led to believe more weapons existed than were seized,'' the release continued. Police went to McMillan's home around 9:30 p.m. Sunday night to arrest him on charges. They were also going to serve him with an order not to contact his wife, after a domestic dispute earlier in the weekend. According to a nearby neighbour who said he witnessed the entire incident, McMillan arrived home Sunday night but continued driving past his house. Possibly seeing the unmarked police car at the other end of his Beerling Crescent block, he reversed his truck and drove at high speed back down the crescent. Another police car was waiting for him at the other end of the street, so McMillan drove his truck through his own front yard and out the back. He escaped to a grid road and drove east to Highway 41 with three police cars in pursuit. ``I watched the whole thing unfold. A cop ran right through our yard with a shotgun. It was actually quite shocking,'' said the neighbour, who spoke on condition of anonymity. Saskatoon police enlisted the help of RCMP, who laid down a tire spike belt near Aberdeen. McMillan drove around it and continued until he drove over a second spike belt roughly 10 kilometres from Wakaw. His truck came to a stop on a dirt road just off the highway about two kilometres later. With six RCMP and five city police officers at the scene, McMillan got out of his truck and fired several shots in the air, according to police. He was commanded to drop his handgun. When he didn't, a police dog was let loose to attack. McMillan shot and killed the dog and then ``raised his weapon towards officers,'' said Saskatoon police Chief Dave Scott. Police opened fire and killed McMillan. Scott said police are investigating who shot him and how many shots were fired. ``All of it happened quickly,'' said Mary Osolinsky, who lives in the farmhouse about a hundred metres from where McMillan was shot. ``We kind of got all shook up. We didn't have any idea what was going on out there,'' ``The police were here all night. It's not a nice scene right now. It's sad regardless of the situation,'' she said in an interview Monday afternoon. Police closed off a 15-kilometre section of Highway 41 between Saskatoon and Wakaw Sunday night and most of Monday to conduct their investigation. Clewes said McMillan -- at 240 pounds, muscular, bald, and Metis -- would have been an imposing figure to police. He said he wants to find out more details about the incident, but admits police may have had no choice. ``I guess they've got to do what they have to do.'' Some neighbours referred to McMillan as ``a nice guy'' or ``pretty normal,'' while others called him arrogrant, unstable, and ``a loose cannon.'' No one from the McMillan family was available for comment Monday. ``It's a very quiet neighbourhood (but) something like this could maybe happen anywhere,'' said a neighbour. ``He built houses in the neighbourhood. It's shocking.'' Police estimate the investigation will take a few weeks. It will determine if police acted properly as well as the circumstances surrounding the death. Scott said he has no reason to believe police acted improperly, but will wait until the investigation is complete to comment further. He said it's ``absolutely tragic'' any time anyone is killed. Scott and RCMP Sgt. Ron Toogood said the deadly force was used only after all other options appear to have been tried. As for the police dog, Cyr, Scott said he was good at his job and ``will be dearly missed.'' Police vehicles remained at the McMillan home late Monday. - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 08:15:47 -0600 From: "Breitkreuz, Garry - Assistant 1" Subject: Feed the Gargoyle PUBLICATION: The Ottawa Citizen DATE: 2001.05.20 EDITION: FINAL SECTION: News PAGE: A5 COLUMN: What the Gargoyle Heard SOURCE: The Ottawa Citizen MP uses girl's abduction to denounce `dithering' on sex offenders' registry And the award for crass exploitation of tragedy goes to ... Canadian Alliance MP Ken Epp, a noted foe of the Liberal's gun registry, for trying for political points by evoking the abduction and murder of five year old girl in Lethbridge, Alta. Although there is no evidence Jessica Koopmans was killed by a sex offender, Mr. Epp used her case to denounce government ``dithering'' on national registry of sex offenders and child molesters. ``It would make a great deal more sense than registering the long-guns of law-abiding citizens who go hunting in the fall,'' he told the House. Feed the Gargoyle: (613) 235-6685 or fax (613) 726-1198 e-mail: gargoyle@thecitizen.southam,ca . On the Web: www.ottawacitizen.com/gargoyle - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 08:15:54 -0600 From: jf_avon@freedom.net Subject: Fwd: NEWS - UK antihunt man changes spots ==================BEGIN FORWARDED MESSAGE================== http://www.countryside-alliance.org/news/latest01/010510cut.htm 10th May, 2001 Release: Immediate Former Anti-Hunting Chief attacks hunting ban In a dramatic U-turn the former Chief Officer of Britain's leading anti hunt campaign group has announced that a deer hunting ban will not improve animal welfare. Graham Sirl, who has been with the League Against Cruel Sports for 22 years and Head of West Country Operations for 9, has made his claims in a letter to newspapers in the West Country. He said "a ban on hunting will not save one animal's life" and that the Government's Hunting Bill "will do little for animal welfare". He added "I have come to the conclusion that in the event of a total hunt ban the deer population will be decimated" Sirl, who recently left the League, goes on to emphasise the importance of hunting to rural communities, and firmly dismisses drag hunting as an alternative. "I do now believe that hunting with hounds plays an integral part in the management system of deer on Exmoor and the Quantocks" "Those who don't acknowledge this to be true, or similarly choose to ignore same, are turning their backs on an argument they know is difficult to win" he said. Simon Hart, Director of the Countryside Alliance Campaign for Hunting said: "Graham Sirl's courageous comments come as no surprise. He is the third recent head of the League (following Richard Course and James Barrington) who has left the group having reached a similar conclusion; that a hunting ban will damage rural communities, and lead to a decline in animal welfare standards. In fact the same conclusion was reached by the Government's own Inquiry last year. Supporters of a hunt ban have a dilemma. If they really want to help improve wildlife management, they should forget a hunting ban and start to work with country people, not against them." Ends. For further information, please contact Simon Hart on 07801 251750 or Darren Hughes on 07866 737529. ===================END FORWARDED MESSAGE=================== - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 08:16:01 -0600 From: "Breitkreuz, Garry - Assistant 1" Subject: Convicted officer gets probation PUBLICATION: Vancouver Sun DATE: 2001.05.19 EDITION: FINAL C SECTION: News PAGE: B1 / Front BYLINE: Glenn Bohn SOURCE: Vancouver Sun ILLUSTRATION: Color Photo: Bill Keay, Vancouver Sun Files / Dentist Kary Taylor was assaulted by an RCMP officer. - - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - - ---- Convicted officer gets probation: RCMP constable also faces gun restrictions for pointing weapon at a dentist's head - - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - - ---- An RCMP officer convicted of assault after holding his gun to the head of a man he thought might be a pimp was told Friday he can still carry for the purpose of police work. A provincial court judge in Vancouver put Burnaby RCMP Constable Michael Pratt on probation for 18 months, ordered him to do 200 hours of community service work and imposed a $2,000 fine. The probationary sentence means Pratt now has a criminal record, but Judge Erik Bendrodt imposed a restriction that doesn't automatically prevent Pratt from continuing with the police career he began 10 years ago. The judge ordered the 34-year-old man to surrender any he owns and not to possess any , ``except within the scope of your employment as a police officer.'' While imposing sentence, Bendrodt said he agreed with Pratt's lawyer Jack Harris when he argued: ``In 10 years of policing, we've had 10 seconds of bad judgment.'' Pratt pressed the barrel of his gun against the temple of Vancouver dentist Dr. Kary Taylor, then put the gun under Taylor's chin, during an ostensibly routine traffic check for a parking violation. Pratt has been suspended with pay from his $60,000-a-year job since August 1999, awaiting the outcome of charges about the February 1999 confrontation. Whether the RCMP will allow Pratt to return to active police duties is still uncertain. Pratt, the son of a retired RCMP inspector, refused to comment to reporters after hearing his sentence. Pratt's lawyer Harris, who also wouldn't comment, told the court earlier that Pratt wanted to continue his career in policing. While awaiting sentence, Pratt operated a a retail kiosk in a shopping mall. Harris said his client also returned to Concordia University to complete a degree and took a Vancouver school board course called Tools for Change: Paradigm Shifting. RCMP Staff Sergeant Steve Wills, the elected staff relations representative for 3,000 Lower Mainland police officers, called on the RCMP to allow an ``outstanding officer'' to continue his career in policing. The sentence fits within the parameters of other sentences imposed on other police officers and people in positions of trust, he said. ``I'm not troubled with [the sentence] at all,'' said Wills, who speaks for police officers who are legally prohibited from joining a trade union. ``We finally got closure.'' But Corporal Grant Learned -- an official spokesman for the RCMP in B.C. -- said Pratt remains suspended with pay and the RCMP hasn't yet decided whether he can return to police duties. ``In a nutshell, his fate is an issue that is still ongoing,'' Learned said. In February, an internal RCMP disciplinary hearing for Pratt was halted when the panel hearing the case ruled it did not have jurisdiction because the RCMP had missed a deadline for beginning action against Pratt. The RCMP's E Division is now appealing to Ottawa. Learned said the RCMP's commanding officer in B.C. -- assistant commissioner Beverly Busson -- will likely make a decision within 10 days on whether Pratt's suspension will be lifted while the internal RCMP appeal process runs its course. Busson's decision will be based on her review of the provincial court judge's decision, as well as ``public interest and public confidence in the RCMP,'' Learned said. Taylor, the assault victim, couldn't be reached for comment. He has filed a civil suit against Pratt. Taylor, who is black, was out on a dinner date in Burnaby with an Asian woman when Pratt tried to stop his vehicle for improper parking. When Taylor drove on, Pratt followed. The judge found Pratt used unnecessary force later when he pulled Taylor out of the car. The constable then put a gun to Taylor's head before asking to see his driver's licence. Another officer who arrived on the scene as back-up, Constable Michelle Lakusta, testified at Pratt's trial that she asked Pratt afterward why he had reacted so strongly. ``He said he saw a black man in a nice car with an Oriental female and, given the area, he wasn't sure if it was possibly a prostitute-pimp situation,'' Lakusta said. Taylor was handcuffed but later released without charges. The pressure of Pratt's gun barrel left abrasions on his temple, but there were no other injuries. - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 08:18:41 -0600 From: "Breitkreuz, Garry - Assistant 1" Subject: Editorial: Gun laws at work PUBLICATION: National Post DATE: 2001.05.22 EDITION: National SECTION: Editorials PAGE: A19 SOURCE: National Post United States HEADLINE: Gun laws at work U.S. gun control opponents have long argued that police and prosecutors should enforce the country's 20,000 existing laws before rushing to create new ones. President George W. Bush has now turned rhetoric into reality, pledging to hire 113 assistant U.S. attorneys and 600 state and local prosecutors dedicated to gun cases. It is a laudable proposal. In the United States, breaking federal gun laws carries a heavy penalty. Any person found with a gun who is a "convicted felon, drug user or addict, fugitive [or] under ... indictment for a felony" faces a mandatory minimum five years in prison. This law, however, is routinely ignored. Prosecutors often plea-bargain away gun charges, focusing on drug possession and robbery charges to speed the legal process along. During Bill Clinton's presidency, prosecution of gun crimes dropped by 44%. But in 1997, a federal prosecutor in Richmond, Va., defied the Justice Department's standing policy of soft-pedalling its own gun laws and began enforcing five-year sentences for anyone found guilty of a offence. The Virginia capital had the second highest per capita homicide rate in the United States. Once the strict new policy was enforced, the city's crime rate plunged by nearly 40% in the first year and the gun murder rate by 65%. The number of felons caught carrying a gun dropped by a staggering 60%. Part of the program's success lay with an accompanying advertising campaign on billboards, newspapers, and television, which broadcast a single message: "An illegal gun gets you five years in prison." The threat of doing serious time in prison if caught with a gun is the most effective way of reducing crime, especially in urban areas. Some public policy problems have a solution so obvious we assume it must already have been tried. In the case of gun violence, that is evidently not the case. - - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - - ---- Click here - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 10:18:22 -0600 From: "Breitkreuz, Garry - Assistant 1" Subject: GOV'T TRUSTS FOREIGN VISITORS WITH GUNS MORE THAN ITS OWN CITIZENS NEWS RELEASE Sender: owner-cdn-firearms@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Precedence: normal Reply-To: cdn-firearms@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca May 22, 2001 For Immediate Release GOV'T TRUSTS FOREIGN VISITORS WITH GUNS MORE THAN ITS OWN CITIZENS "Why one set of rules for foreign gun owners and another for Canadians? It just doesn't make sense." Yorkton - Today, Garry Breitkreuz, MP for Yorkton-Melville exposed another example of Liberal hypocrisy when it comes to the country's gun laws. "Foreign visitors can come into Canada with their guns without having to pass any of the mandatory public safety tests and background checks forced on Canadian firearms owners," revealed Breitkreuz. "Declare your guns at the border, pay your fifty bucks and welcome to Canada - that's it for a foreign visitor. Meanwhile, Canadian firearm owners are put through a maze of bureaucratic red tape, safety testing, background checks, a waiting period and a barrage of personal questions that violate their right to privacy. The government isn't even checking to see if these foreign visitors take their guns out of Canada when they leave. This destroys yet another feeble excuse the Justice Minister uses to justify the registration of all firearms." Relaxed Rules for a Foreign Visitor with Firearms Coming into Canada (1) Fill out a Non-Resident Firearms Declaration Form (one page) (2) Have a Customs Officer verify your firearms and witness your signature (3) Pay a fee of $50 (Canadian) and receive a Temporary Firearms Licence and Registration (4) Temporary Licence allows you to bring as many guns as you want into Canada (5) Temporary Licence also allows you to buy ammunition here and bring 200 rounds into Canada duty free (6) No, you don't have to tell Customs when you take the gun back out of Canada - - - No criminal record checks - - - No background checks or references - - - No embarrassing personal questions about your private life - - - No firearms safety course or proof you even know how to shoot a gun - - - No Waiting-Period Onerous Rules for a Responsible Canadian Gun Owner (1) Pass the Canadian Firearms Safety Course (2) Fill out an Application for a Firearms Licence (2 pages) (3) Get a photograph and have a guarantor sign the back of the photo and your application form (4) Answer eight very private and personal questions including: Have you been diagnosed or treated for depression, experienced a divorce, separation, job loss or bankruptcy? (None of which foreign visitors have to answer) (5) Have your application signed by your spouse or common-law partner (6) Provide the name, address and phone number for former spouse or common-law partner (7) Have your application signed by your former spouse or common-law partner (8) Provide the name, address and phone number of two references (cannot be your spouse) (9) Pay $60 for a Firearms Possession and Acquisition Licence (10) Wait for the mandatory period of 28-days "This is typical of the Ministerial mismanagement of the firearms file. Check the guns coming into Canada but don't check them going out. Doesn't this prove that Bill C-68 never was about tracking all firearms entering and leaving the country?" asked Breitkreuz. "They've had six years and they still can't make it work! When will the Liberals realize the only solution is to repeal this fatally flawed legislation and replace it with something that will work?" - - -30- - ------------------------------ End of Cdn-Firearms Digest V3 #782 ********************************** Submissions: mailto:cdn-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Mailing List Commands: mailto:majordomo@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Moderator's e-mail address: mailto:acardin33@home.com List owner: mailto:owner-cdn-firearms@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca FAQ list: http://www.magma.ca/~asd/cfd-faq1.html and http://teapot.usask.ca/cdn-firearms/Faq/cfd-faq1.html Web Site: http://teapot.usask.ca/cdn-firearms/homepage.html FTP Site: ftp://teapot.usask.ca/pub/cdn-firearms/ CFDigest Archives: http://www.sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca/~ab133/ or put the next command in an e-mail message and mailto:majordomo@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca get cdn-firearms-digest v03.n198 end (198 is the digest issue number and 03 is the volume) To unsubscribe from _all_ the lists, put the next five lines in a message and mailto:majordomo@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca unsubscribe cdn-firearms-digest unsubscribe cdn-firearms-alert unsubscribe cdn-firearms-chat unsubscribe cdn-firearms end (To subscribe, use "subscribe" instead of "unsubscribe".) 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