From: owner-can-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca (Cdn-Firearms Digest) To: cdn-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Subject: Cdn-Firearms Digest V5 #80 Reply-To: cdn-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Sender: owner-can-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Errors-To: owner-can-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Precedence: normal Cdn-Firearms Digest Wednesday, September 25 2002 Volume 05 : Number 080 In this issue: Re: Pro-Gun Poems Re: Muffling Kudos! The number of hunters is in decline due in part to the more Bank robber holds teller at gunpoint: RFC Ottawa: Raising the Profile of the Firearms Act CFC's Updated Canadian Firearms Program Statistics MAN HIT WITH JAIL TIME FOR ASSAULT Editor's Comment: (At this rate, never) Editor's Comment (If Kyoto is ratified, McLellan can kiss her seat Editor's Comment (Yet another Gritty boondoggle.) Statistics Canada releases Homicide 2001 Report Ms., Armed "Freedom of choice" I can get behind. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 01:13:12 -0600 (CST) From: Bruce Mills Subject: Re: Pro-Gun Poems Vulcun1isback@aol.com wrote: > Bruce- Here is an original Poem that I just recently wrote, it will be > published in the upcoming book entitled "Best Poems and Poets of 2002" > available somtime in October or November in Bookstores. it is an honor to be > chosen among thousands of poets from around the globe by some of the best > Professional Writers and Poets in the field, that were the judges in the > final submissions to this book. When I wrote this poem I thought of how the > Liberals are using the same tactics of "Deciding whats good for us and our > children" to read,think, and say in school,public,etc. > > -it seems if you are not politically correct these days- you are an outcast- > or somehow "evil" - if you own guns, "you are somehow considered to be " > mentally dangerous","strange" and "out of step" with the rest of society. > > "THE TIME CONTINUIM" > > The Nazi's burned our books because they just did not agree, > The Hopes and Dreams a book could bring to you and to me. > They took away your arms so that you could not defend, > Your very own family,your neighbors,or your friends. > > They spread Mass Propaganda, Promoted Hatred, so many die. > They tortured many to befriend others- so they may save their lives. > The History books are full of horror, that many can't portray. > While others still deny-All that history has to say. > > So learn my friend well, What History lessons taught, > for you are now Ressurected in what history has us brought. > The names have changed, the faces too, while time shifts to and from, > While Wise-Men know the fate of War- They hear the beating of it's Drum. > > - So trust not all that you are told- and what you read may just be lies. > Learn to question all that is, and always scrutinize. > Defend yourself,Defend Your Friends,Defend your Family, > And never,ever give your arms - for sake of Security. > > - Copyright-2002- Robert A.Mazurek Thank you for sharing this with us, Robert - well done! And congratulations on getting published, too! No mean feat, that, especially in such a prestegious collection. Please share some other of your poems, every now and again, when the mood and muse strikes you. Yours in Liberty, Bruce Hamilton Ontario ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 01:14:05 -0600 (CST) From: Rick Lowe Subject: Re: Muffling Edward Hudson said: > Re: Concerning the Muffling of Mr Loew & Mr Kearms Eduardo... I don't really consider myself "muffled". Although, shuffling messages off to chat does effectively shut me up because I don't belong to the "chat" thing and don't intend to start. I don't really have an issue with Bruce ending those kinds of exchanges as I don't particularly enjoy them - in fact, I don't enjoy any of this. I do, however, feel compelled to respond to them in the vein they are sent, irritating as that may be for all concerned. I believe posts such as the initial one in that exchange are nothing less than verbal bullying, intended to shut people up or make them reluctant to voice their opinions. As such, I believe they are best dealt with as any other type of bullying is dealt with - through an enthusiastic and strong offense. It has been my experience that bullies understand a swift kick in the wedding tackle better than any sort of reasoning, rational pleading, or anything else. Sometimes that kick has to be a virtual kick rather than a real one. At any rate, having allowed the first one in, Bruce did allow a response before shutting down anything further that might have developed, so I can't get too bent out of shape about it. Having said all of that, I believe that every single word of mine in that post was extremely accurate. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 01:14:51 -0600 (CST) From: Bruce Mills Subject: Kudos! Bravo and kudos to all who have sent in letters to the Editors in the past week, and congratulations to those who managed to get theirs printed! We must continue to win over the "hearts and minds" of the reading public with each and every letter we send. Silence is *not* an option! Silence equates with consent, and we do not consent to have our rights trampled for politcal expediency. The debate is *not* over! Yours in Liberty, Bruce Hamilton Ontario ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 08:19:15 -0600 (CST) From: "Breitkreuz, Garry - Assistant 1" Subject: The number of hunters is in decline due in part to the more PUBLICATION: The Moncton Times and Transcript DATE: 2002.09.25 SECTION: Opinion/Editorial PAGE: D5 COLUMN: Everett Mosher - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Serious hunting gets under way tomorrow with moose season - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The moose season opens tomorrow. Most hunters with a licence took today off from work to do some last-minute scouting. We wish them luck and good weather. Last year 51,826 hunter applied for a moose licence. Of that number, 4,618 names were drawn, 4,511 licences issued, and, at seasons end, a total of 2,573 animals were registered in. The waterfowl, bear and small game seasons all open next Tuesday, Oct. 1. The archery season for deer opens Oct. 7, a week later than last year. Deer season for firearm hunters opens Oct. 28. Only about 2,475 antlerless deer tags were issued this year, so the approximately 52,000 other deer hunters must hunt bucks only. In recent years, hunters have complained that bucks were seldom seen until the rut started, which normally occurs about mid-November. Last year the season closed Nov. 17. Opening the four-week season later than normal this year, so that it will not close until Nov. 23, will result in more opportunities for those 52,000 hunters, and more bucks tagged. Word is that the New Brunswick Outfitters Association has sent a letter to Jeannot Volpe, Minister Of Natural Resources and Energy, expressing concerns that .22 centerfires are being used to poach deer. The association is requesting that once a hunter has shot a deer, they be prohibited from carrying a .22 centerfire for the remainder of the deer season. The association is also requesting that during the varmint season hunters be restricted to shotguns and .22 rimfires only. Having owned and used one or more .22 centerfires for more than 40 years, and used these rifles for many, many hours of enjoyment while hunting varmints, especially coyotes, it's best I don't say what they should do with that request. Yes, a number of deer hunters after shooting their deer pick up their .22 centerfire rifle and, although supposedly hunting coyotes, are intent on shooting a second deer. Yet eliminate the .22 centerfires, and those same hunters will take to the woods with a shotgun after partridge, and a pocket full of slugs, with every intention of shooting a second deer. Eliminate the shotgun, and they will use a .22 rimfire. The answer is not elimination of the .22 centerfires, but rather, better enforcement. Those with poaching intentions are not going to be deterred by one more restrictive law. It only hurts the law-abiding hunter, not the poacher. As for eliminating the .22 centerfires at other times of the year, the same argument applies. If deer are being shot out of season with .22 centerfires, more enforcement officers are the solution. Varmint hunters have found that in order to be successful, the use of a .22 centerfire is an essential part of the hunt. During the varmint season those that enjoy hunting have the opportunity to spend many enjoyable hours in the outdoors with their .22 centerfire rifles, and have done so safety, without raising concerns by the general public. The number of hunters is in decline due in part to the more restrictive Bill <68>. Making more restrictive laws will only serve to further reduce the number of hunters. Certainly if we had fewer resident hunters then the outfitters and guides could offer a greater possibility of success for the non-resident hunter. Seeking a more restrictive law that is bound to alienate resident hunters is not the way to go. If there is a problem with .22 centerfires being used for significant amount of poaching, then guides and outfitters should be reporting each occurrence, showing proof there is a problem, and pushing for more enforcement officers. The key to reduce poaching is better enforcement, and that will only happen if pressure is exerted on members of parliament for a larger budget for the Dept. of Natural Resources and Energy. Only then will it be possible to field more enforcement officers. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 08:21:38 -0600 (CST) From: "Breitkreuz, Garry - Assistant 1" Subject: Bank robber holds teller at gunpoint: PUBLICATION: The Ottawa Citizen DATE: 2002.09.25 EDITION: Final SECTION: City PAGE: D1 / Front BYLINE: Sarah Staples SOURCE: The Ottawa Citizen ILLUSTRATION: Colour Photo: Brigitte Bouvier, The Ottawa Citizen / Ottawapolice Const. Natalie Elder collects the money from Ray Sullivan's driveway.; Colour Photo: Brigitte Bouvier, The Ottawa Citizen / Some of the dye-stained money.; Colour Photo: CJOH / The bank security camera photo of the suspected robber. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bank robber holds teller at gunpoint: Suspect escapes through Westboro neighbourhood, leaving trail of stolen money - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Veteran bank teller Nora Baldwin stared down the barrel of a robber's shotgun yesterday. "He didn't shout or yell," Ms. Baldwin said later. "He just said in a quiet voice, 'Open it!' He was very matter-of-fact." The robber entered the Westboro branch of the Bank of Nova Scotia on Richmond Road about 9:50 a.m. Ms. Baldwin had been sorting file folders when the man strode up to her wicket and, without a word, cocked the shotgun. Ms. Baldwin froze. Unable to open the counter door, the robber, who was dressed in faded denim blue sweatshirt and jeans, leapt over the counter and handed Ms. Baldwin and colleague Carrie Golden, 29, crumpled yellow canvas bags, demanding all the cash in their tills. But as he escaped down the street, the robber apparently lost his grip on one of the money-laden bags when he stumbled onto Ray Sullivan, painting the backyard deck of his Winston Avenue bungalow. The robber is described as a white male, 35 to 40 years old and about 5-foot-6. The robber hung onto the other canvas bag and a metre-long sawed-off shotgun, and managed to hop Mr. Sullivan's fence before the retired paper mill employee could get a good look at him. "It went so fast, there wasn't really time to see nothing," Mr. Sullivan said later, watching from the street as police officers dusted the area for fingerprints. Police tried to keep curious neighbours away from a stack of stolen bills the robber had dropped. The dropped money was covered in bank dye. Dye pack devices are used to permanently stain stolen money, making it impossible to spend. Bank tellers may slip a dye pack into the money bag during a robbery. The pack can be activated by a small radio receiver near the entrance of the bank. Once the dye pack passes through the door, it activates a timer. The robber is usually fleeing by the time the pack explodes. Ottawa police won't say just how much money was stolen. The robber wore white rain hat and sunglasses. That aroused the suspicion of bank manager Mary Voteary, who was on the phone with another manager when the robber made his move. "I said, 'I think we're being robbed,' and a second later, the guy pulls out his ," Ms. Voteary said. "Your adrenaline is pumping and you just forget the rules." Ms. Voteary called 911. The robbery had taken all of five minutes. Counsellors arrived in the afternoon to meet with the tellers. The bank closed after the robbery, but is to reopen today. "Everyone was very shook up at first. Now, I'm just mad that someone would come here and do that," said Ms. Voteary. Coincidentally, a bank robbery in Windsor yesterday also involved some dye-stained money. And the robbery took place on Ottawa Street. In that incident, the fleeing robber was forced to peel off some of his clothing because the dye exploded all over him. Detectives and forensics experts spent part of the afternoon tracking clues down a back-alley trail of discarded stained clothing and red-soaked currency. "It appears he had a mishap with the bag. We can assume he'd have some (dye) on himself," said Windsor Det. Joe Bachmeier. Anyone with information related to the Westboro robbery is asked to call the Ottawa Police Major Crime Unit at 613-236-1222x5477. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 08:24:06 -0600 (CST) From: Al Dorans Subject: RFC Ottawa: Raising the Profile of the Firearms Act RFC Ottawa/FED UP Canada Protecting Canadian Freedoms ................................... Dear Firearms Owners, September 25, 2002 This note is to congratulate several gun owning writers for contributing wonderful quality letters to the editor on the firearms issue. Those being published in the Ottawa Sun during the last several days were TOM EMPEY from Belleville, BRUCE MILLS from Hamilton, BARRY GLASGOW from Woodlawn and MARK HORSTEAD from Newmarket. Keep up the good work lads. To all gun owners: make sure that you take the time to invite and encourage solid work on our behalf. For the past year or so, the RFC has not been able to place Bill C-68/FA on the radar screens of most political parties or the mainstream media, with some notable exceptions. The Liberals do not want to raise the issue of the faltering Firearms Act. Neither do the national television networks that are notoriously anti gun. It is up to us, the RFC, to make C-68/FA a pressing political issue, especially in Canada's large urban centres, and particularly in Ottawa where the offices of federal politicians pay rapt attention to whatever appears in the media. On Sunday evening September 23rd, John Perocchio and I appeared on the Reverend John Counsell, CFRA 580 Radio show entitled "Guns-a-Blazin." Reverend John did a marvellous job steering the discussion and allowing many callers to express their views. At the opening segment of the show he asked my impression of the firearms legislation. My response? "I believe that Bill C-68: The Firearms Act is the most needless, ineffective, wasteful, dangerous, oppressive, dictatorial, deceptive and disastrous pieces of legislation in Canadian history. It is utter garbage and should be scrapped immediately." That was the tone of the opening salvo for riddling C-68/FA full of holes. John Perocchio did a marvellous job contributing to the discussion and engaged actively in this peppering process. John was especially adept at dealing with phone calls from the listening audience. For years, John and I have worked as a complementary team in Ottawa to protect the freedoms of Canada's Recreational Firearms Community. After demonstrating the ineffectivess and financial waste of C-68/FA, the closing salvo in this 2 hour show was a call by me for the CFRA listening audience to take constructive action: "The leading causes of death annually in Canada are Heart Disease (80,000), Cancer (60,000) and Lung Disease (20,000). Save your loved ones by contacting your Member of Parliament and demanding that Bill C-68: The Firearms Act be scrapped immediately before any more lives and money are wasted." Professor Al Dorans Director, FED UP Canada Chairman, FED UP II Rally ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 08:26:22 -0600 (CST) From: "Breitkreuz, Garry - Assistant 1" Subject: CFC's Updated Canadian Firearms Program Statistics http://www.cfc-ccaf.gc.ca/en/general_public/program_statistics/default.asp Canadian Firearms Program Statistics Licences 1,299,963 Possession Only Licences (POLs) issued under the current legislation are valid. Note: all holders of a POL must have at least one firearm registered to them by 31 December 2002. 488,401 Possession and Acquisition Licences (PALs) issued under the current legislation are valid. 5,670 Minor's Licences (MLs) issued under current legislation are valid. Note: 82,131 Firearms Acquisition Certificates (FACs) under the previous legislation that are still valid. Registration 1,165,362 firearm owners have at least one registration certificate in CFRS. 4,394,283 unique firearms have been registered in CFRS. Canadian Firearms Registration On-Line (CFRO) 2,025,192 CFRO queries have been made by police and other law enforcement officials since December 1, 1998. Note: Police and law enforcement officials have controlled access to some firearms data via Canadian Firearms Registration On-Line, which contains a subset of the information contained on the computerized Canadian Firearms Registration System (CFRS). CFRO does not contain data on firearm owners other than basic information such as firearms licence numbers, home addresses etc. For further information on CFRO please go to http://cfc.gc.ca/en/portals/police/cfro. Statistics last updated on: September 14, 2002 These statistics are provided by the Licensing and Registration Directorate of the Canadian Firearms Centre. Some statistics are tabulated weekly and some are tabulated monthly. Additional statistics may be added as the program develops. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 08:28:29 -0600 (CST) From: "Breitkreuz, Garry - Assistant 1" Subject: MAN HIT WITH JAIL TIME FOR ASSAULT PUBLICATION: The Ottawa Sun DATE: 2002.09.25 EDITION: Final SECTION: News PAGE: 23 SOURCE: BY LISA LISLE, OTTAWA SUN - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MAN HIT WITH JAIL TIME FOR ASSAULT - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Girl troubles have landed Keith Smith in jail again. The 32-year-old man, who shot a man in September 1998 for apparently leaving a party with his now-34-year-old girlfriend, pleaded guilty yesterday to assault causing bodily harm, as a result of an incident with the same woman. On Jan. 27, 2001, just days before he was sent to jail for the shooting, Smith showed up at Lynn Smith's -- no relation -- residence and the pair got into an argument. Keith Smith's bail conditions included an order to steer clear of his girlfriend. The argument escalated and Smith punched her in the face several times, breaking her jaw as a result. Having already served the equivalent of five months while awaiting trial, Smith was handed another six months behind bars. The sentence comes almost immediately on the heels of his time for the shooting, which started as a domestic disturbance. When two other men came to his girlfriend's defence, Smith got into a fight, which he escaped without serious injury. Hoping to frighten his foes, Smith retrieved a from his home. He fired at one victim as he drove away, then shot the second man in the leg. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 08:32:03 -0600 (CST) From: "Breitkreuz, Garry - Assistant 1" Subject: Editor's Comment: (At this rate, never) PUBLICATION: The Ottawa Sun DATE: 2002.09.25 EDITION: Final SECTION: Comment PAGE: 14 SOURCE: BY OTTAWA SUN COLUMN: Letters to the Editor First, it was Jane Stewart's HRDC billion-dollar boondoggle. Then, it was the registry billion-dollar boondoggle. Now, it's the veterans' pensions billion-dollar boondoggle. In every instance, they've low-balled the amount through creative accounting, and have tried to ignore it, or make it go away. It would be par for the course if the Supreme Court allowed the government's appeal to be granted. It would also be a great shame on Canada. This is yet another example of the Liberal Party's inability to do the "right thing." Jane Stewart should have been fired, the Act should be repealed, and they should pay the money to these heroes and their families, as they should have in the first place. Three billion dollars in boondoggles! When will the sheeple of Canada wake up and smell the scandal and kick the rascals out? Bruce N. Mills Editor's Comment: (At this rate, never) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 08:33:39 -0600 (CST) From: "Breitkreuz, Garry - Assistant 1" Subject: Editor's Comment (If Kyoto is ratified, McLellan can kiss her seat PUBLICATION: The Edmonton Sun DATE: 2002.09.25 EDITION: Final SECTION: Editorial/Opinion PAGE: 10 COLUMN: Letter of the Day - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- LETTER OF THE DAY COLUMN - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- I HAVE had enough of Health Minister Anne McLellan over the years and still her opinion is reported as if she has some intelligence. Now she is criticizing Alberta over the Kyoto ads. Ask her what happened to the registry that was supposed to end all crime? How about the billion dollars wasted trying to implement it ,and now they don't even care if the registered guns have serial numbers? William Waschuk Editor's Comment (If Kyoto is ratified, McLellan can kiss her seat goodbye.) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 08:34:48 -0600 (CST) From: "Breitkreuz, Garry - Assistant 1" Subject: Editor's Comment (Yet another Gritty boondoggle.) PUBLICATION: The Calgary Sun DATE: 2002.09.25 EDITION: Final SECTION: Editorial/Opinion PAGE: 14 COLUMN: Letters to the Editor LIKE MOST of your editorials, I enjoyed "Waste not" (Sept. 21) but don't forget to add the bloated federal Registry to the list of Liberal criminal stupidity. This has so far sucked up at least a billion dollars (and rising rapidly) for no benefit to the public whatsoever. That could have funded 2,500 nurses at $40,000 each for 10 years or 1,000 MRI machines across this country, or 2,000 police officers at $50,000 each for 10 years nationwide. It could also provide $1,000 worth of much-needed aid to each of 100,000 starving African families for 10 years. Any of these represents a far better use of our tax money. Mark L Horstead Editor's Comment (Yet another Gritty boondoggle.) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 08:35:47 -0600 (CST) From: "Breitkreuz, Garry - Assistant 1" Subject: Statistics Canada releases Homicide 2001 Report http://www.statcan.ca/Daily/English/020925/d020925b.htm Homicides 2001 Spousal homicides increased in 2001 for the first time in six years, but the rate of youths charged with homicide dropped to a 30-year low. Overall, the national homicide rate remained stable for the third consecutive year. Police reported a total of 554 homicides in 2001, eight more than in 2000. The national homicide rate, which has generally been declining since the mid-1970s, was 1.78 homicides for every 100,000 individuals, similar to levels during the late 1960s. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 08:36:33 -0600 (CST) From: "Breitkreuz, Garry - Assistant 1" Subject: Ms., Armed "Freedom of choice" I can get behind. NATIONAL REVIEW September 24, 2002 9:00 a.m. by Elizabeth A. Fitton Ms., Armed "Freedom of choice" I can get behind. http://www.nationalreview.com/fitton/fitton092402.asp ------------------------------ End of Cdn-Firearms Digest V5 #80 ********************************* Submissions: mailto:cdn-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Mailing List Commands: mailto:majordomo@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Moderator's e-mail address: mailto:acardin33@shaw.ca List owner: mailto:owner-cdn-firearms@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca FAQ list: http://www.magma.ca/~asd/cfd-faq1.html and http://teapot.usask.ca/cdn-firearms/Faq/cfd-faq1.html Web Site: http://teapot.usask.ca/cdn-firearms/homepage.html FTP Site: ftp://teapot.usask.ca/pub/cdn-firearms/ CFDigest Archives: http://www.sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca/~ab133/ or put the next command in an e-mail message and mailto:majordomo@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca get cdn-firearms-digest v04.n192 end (192 is the digest issue number and 04 is the volume) To unsubscribe from _all_ the lists, put the next five lines in a message and mailto:majordomo@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca unsubscribe cdn-firearms-digest unsubscribe cdn-firearms-alert unsubscribe cdn-firearms-chat unsubscribe cdn-firearms end (To subscribe, use "subscribe" instead of "unsubscribe".) 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