From: owner-can-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca (Cdn-Firearms Digest) To: cdn-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Subject: Cdn-Firearms Digest V6 #231 Reply-To: cdn-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Sender: owner-can-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Errors-To: owner-can-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Precedence: normal Cdn-Firearms Digest Friday, July 4 2003 Volume 06 : Number 231 In this issue: Re: Sterilized Deer Re: Sterilized Deer Excellent speech by Lorne Gunter Sifton deer cull might open some eyes Give us perv registry instead Will obese be next target? Store owner who chased robber won't be charged Weapons seized at Saskatchewan border American tries to cross Sask. border with cache of weapons Peel Regional Police - Street Crime officers seize guns Officer clear in shooting of slaying suspect Deer hunt debate turns to insults Martin aims at spring election Decision on deer may be unpopular Alleged shooter feared rival drug dealers Bandit robs gas station Customs officers seize weapons ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 20:03:09 -0600 (CST) From: "Jeff Gurnsey" Subject: Re: Sterilized Deer > Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 09:14:33 -0600 (CST) > From: "Breitkreuz, Garry - Assistant 1" > Subject: COUNCIL URGED TO REJECT DEER HUNT > > PUBLICATION: The London Free Press > DATE: 2003.07.02 > EDITION: Final > SECTION: City & Region > PAGE: B1 > ILLUSTRATION: 2 photos 1. photo of AB CHAHBAR 2. photo of JONI BAECHLER > BYLINE: PATRICK MALONEY, FREE PRESS REPORTER > > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - ---- > > COUNCIL URGED TO REJECT DEER HUNT > > The committee is asking city council to order a study of the bog this fall > and look at the possibility of using SpayVac, a sterilization vaccine > developed in Canada and first used on deer three years ago. Duhhhh. And how did the deer get there in the first place. So sterilizing the deer is not inhumane and it will stop other deer from coming to the bog? Somebody is abusing the new marijuna law! Jeff Gurnsey ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 21:48:43 -0600 (CST) From: Bruce Mills Subject: Re: Sterilized Deer Jeff Gurnsey wrote: > Duhhhh. And how did the deer get there in the first place. So sterilizing > the deer is not inhumane and it will stop other deer from coming to the bog? > Somebody is abusing the new marijuna law! And this won't actually *reduce* the deer population for another 10 to 15 years, and only then through attrition through natural causes, which usually means old age, infirmity, disease or starvation. And that doesn't stop *new* deer from coming in... Yours in Liberty, Bruce Hamilton Ontario ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 21:49:26 -0600 (CST) From: Bruce Mills Subject: Excellent speech by Lorne Gunter Property Rights: The Key to Freedom, Prosperity AND Equality http://www.propertyrightsresearch.org/property_rights6.htm ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 21:50:03 -0600 (CST) From: Bruce Mills Subject: Sifton deer cull might open some eyes http://www.canoe.ca/LondonOpinions/letters.html LONDON FREE PRESS LETTERS TO THE EDITOR July 2, 2003 Sifton deer cull might open some eyes I find it curious that people who purposely purchased property backing onto the Sifton Bog because of its naturalistic properties are now the ones complaining about the deer eating their hostas. Where do they expect the deer to go? The city of London has supported and encouraged urban sprawl so the deer are now house-locked. The natural predators have left the area and, without natural selection, the deer population will continue to grow. The urban sprawl of this city is doing more than threatening our gardens -- it threatens the farmland in all directions, it encourages the use of cars to drive to the big box retailers, it diminishes our green spaces and natural resources. If a deer cull will make people understand the impact of their choices, then I fully support it. S. J. Crawford London ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 21:56:46 -0600 (CST) From: Bruce Mills Subject: Give us perv registry instead http://www.canoe.ca/WinnipegSun/editorial.html Winnipeg Sun Letters to the Editor Give us perv registry instead A national sex-offender registry would be simple and inexpensive to implement. Most of the data already exists in provincial and municipal police files. Instead the government spends more than a billion dollars to coerce and harass gun owners. It is now a criminal offence for a gun owner to change his address without notifying the government. The government obviously believes it's far more important to control law-abiding gun owners than to control convicted perverts. J. M. Galt Winnipeg (So it seems.) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 21:57:16 -0600 (CST) From: Bruce Mills Subject: Will obese be next target? http://www.canoe.ca/WinnipegSun/editorial.html Winnipeg Sun Letters to the Editor Will obese be next target? Now that obesity has been identified as a drain on the public coffers, can we expect authorities to resort to drastic measures similar to anti-smoking legislation to reduce waistlines? For example: fines, taxes or jail sentences for excess poundage? Denying the obese medical treatment? Rationing the amount of food they can purchase or consume? The possibilities for government intervention are endless. What ever happened to "live and let live"? Thomas W. Laprade Thunder Bay (Wasn't that a Bond movie?) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 21:57:44 -0600 (CST) From: Bruce Mills Subject: Store owner who chased robber won't be charged http://www.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Law/2003/07/03/126110-cp.html Thu, July 3, 2003 Store owner who chased robber won't be charged VICTORIA (CP) - A grocery store owner accused of beating an armed woman who was trying to rob his store will not be charged with assault. Crown counsel reviewed the case and determined that Felix Lum did not use excessive force considering the circumstances, said Victoria police Insp. Phyllis Senay. Cheryl Ethel Green pleaded guilty to armed robbery and was sent to jail for two months after the incident at Lum's grocery store in late January. Green, who was highly intoxicated at the time, entered the grocery store wearing pantyhose over her face and brandishing two knives. Lum, a former Hong Kong auxiliary police officer with martial arts experience, grabbed a broom and chased her out of the store. At one point, Green turned to face Lum and raised one of the knives above her shoulder. Lum, who said he was trying to knock the knives out of her hand, was accused of hitting the woman with the broomstick, breaking her forearm and her nose. In court, Green's lawyer said his client had suffered a brutal beating. (Victoria Times Colonist) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 08:54:44 -0600 (CST) From: Bruce Mills Subject: Weapons seized at Saskatchewan border http://sask.cbc.ca/regional/servlet/View?filename=weapons030703 >From CBC Saskatchewan Weapons seized at Saskatchewan border NORTH PORTAL, SK - The Canada Customs and Revenue Agency says customs inspectors seized what it calls a "significant" amount of weapons on Sunday. A 36-year-old American citizen entered Canada with a shipment belonging to various individuals. (Photograph) Among the items siezed were these grenades The driver allegedly told inspectors during two interviews that he was not carrying any weapons. Inspectors eventually discovered 13 rifles and shotguns, most of them loaded, three loaded handguns, one anti-tank rocket launcher, four live smoke grenades and two training grenades, 4,300 rounds of ammunition, seven prohibited ammunition clips and one so-called "blackjack", a prohibited hand-held weapon. According to the customs officials, the mover was transporting the goods to an address in Alaska. Officials say they found a list of household effects that listed the rifles and pistols. They also found a copy of a Canada Customs and Revenue Agency brochure on the importing of a firearm or weapon into Canada. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 08:56:58 -0600 (CST) From: Bruce Mills Subject: American tries to cross Sask. border with cache of weapons http://www.globeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20030704.wsask0704/BNStory/National/ >From Globe and Mail Friday, Jul. 4, 2003 American tries to cross Sask. border with cache of weapons Associated Press An American man has been accused of trying to cross the border with a hidden cache of weapons and ammunition that included an anti-tank rocket launcher, say Canadian customs officials. Debbie Johnson of Canada Customs and Revenue Agency said a man in a moving van entered Saskatchewan from North Dakota at the North Portal border crossing Sunday, about 45 kilometres southeast of Estevan. He told customs officers he was transporting goods to an address in Alaska and wasn't carrying any weapons. But a search proved otherwise. In addition to the rocket launcher, the items seized included 13 rifles and shotguns, three loaded handguns, four live smoke grenades, two training grenades, 4,300 rounds of ammunition, seven prohibited ammunition clips and one blackjack. "One of the guns was in a box marked kitchen utensils," Ms. Johnson explained. Inspectors also found a copy of a Canada Customs brochure entitled Importing a Firearm or Weapon into Canada. "We feel he was aware there were special requirements with the guns and he chose not to follow them," she said. Mark Eller, 36, of Walker, Minn., was released on $5,000 cash bail after he appeared Thursday in provincial court and pleaded not guilty to smuggling, failure to report imported goods, possession of goods unlawfully imported to Canada and lying to customs officials. With a summary conviction, each charge would carry a maximum penalty of $50,000 and six months in jail. He will be back in court for trial on Oct.16. The RCMP has also charged him with a number of weapons charges, including unsafe storage of firearms. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 08:57:57 -0600 (CST) From: Bruce Mills Subject: Peel Regional Police - Street Crime officers seize guns http://www.newswire.ca/releases/July2003/03/c9486.html >From Canada News Wire Peel Regional Police - Street Crime officers seize guns MISSISSAUGA, ON, July 3 /CNW/ - On Wednesday, July 2, 2003, at around 10:45 p.m., investigators from the Peel Regional Police Mississauga Street Crime Unit executed a Criminal Code Search Warrant, at a Westlock Road residence and seized 15 firearms. Through extensive investigation, officers identified a Mississauga man that was in possession of a number of illegal firearms contained in his residence. A search of his residence produced 15 firearms including three revolvers, three semi-automatic pistols, five rifles and four shotguns. Three of these firearms were fully loaded at the time of seizure. Police also seized two prohibited weapons and a prohibited device, a silencer. All firearms seized were unregistered, restricted or prohibited. Douglas THOMPSON, 50 years of Mississauga, is charged with 15 counts of Careless Storage of a Firearm, Careless Storage of Ammunition, 2 counts of Unauthorized Possession of a Prohibited Weapon, and unauthorized possession of a Prohibited Device. THOMPSON is scheduled to appear at the Ontario Court of Justice in Brampton on Thursday, July 3, 2003, for a bail hearing. - -30- For further information: Contact: Cst. Wendy Sims, Media Relations, (905) 453-2121 ext. 4032; Archived images on this organization are available through CNW E-Pix at http://www.newswire.ca. Images are free to members of The Canadian Press. PEEL REGIONAL POLICE has 940 releases in this database. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 08:58:29 -0600 (CST) From: Bruce Mills Subject: Officer clear in shooting of slaying suspect http://www.canoe.ca/NewsStand/TorontoSun/News/2003/07/04/126469.html Fri, July 4, 2003 >From Toronto Sun Officer clear in shooting of slaying suspect By JONATHAN JENKINS, TORONTO SUN Murder suspect Vernon Nichols shot himself and it wasn't the fault of the OPP officer who was trying to arrest him, the Special Investigations Unit ruled yesterday. "Short of stopping and allowing Mr. Nichols to go on his way, the involved officer had no way of preventing what occurred," SIU Director John Sutherland said in a news release. Nichols, 40, is charged with first-degree murder in the June 11 death of his wife, Margaret Smrekar, 37. Smrekar was found suffering from an alleged beating in her Mississauga home. She was pronounced dead at a hospital about an hour later. FOLLOWED NICHOLS About nine hours after her body was found, an OPP officer near Renfrew saw Nichols' car and began following him, the SIU said. Nichols kept going even after the officer turned on his emergency lights and siren. The car eventually drove into a ditch and Nichols obeyed an order to get out, then collapsed, telling police he'd shot himself. A .22-calibre rifle was found in the car. He was taken to a hospital with a chest wound and was released into police custody three days later. The SIU investigates all cases of death, injury or sex assault that happen during police operations. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 08:59:06 -0600 (CST) From: Bruce Mills Subject: Deer hunt debate turns to insults http://www.canoe.ca/LondonOpinions/letters.html >From London Free Press Deer hunt debate turns to insults Your article, Politicians reject Sifton Bog deer cull (July 1), suggests disrespect was initiated by those in attendance opposed to the killing. Politicians set the tone for the meeting. The booing was in part a response to attempts to limit public input, particularly expert opinion from veterinarians which clearly showed the city was operating on incomplete information, i.e. chemo-sterilization indeed is used elsewhere in Canada, and expert tranquillization is less stressful than being shot with an arrow. Advocates of killing retreated to offering heckles of "BS" and hiding behind Ministry of Natural Resources representative Pud Hunter, who boldly suggested his office is both the arbiter of scientific method and seemingly of humaneness, this from the same entity which used untrained volunteers to do a deer population count and recommends the archaic bow and arrow or muzzleloader -- and killing -- as its scientific, high-tech approach. Tom Beckett London ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 08:59:36 -0600 (CST) From: Bruce Mills Subject: Martin aims at spring election http://www.globeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20030704.umart0704/BNStory/National/ Martin aims at spring election By SHAWN McCARTHY and BRIAN LAGHI >From Friday's Globe and Mail Liberal leadership front-runner Paul Martin is planning to tell Elections Canada to speed up its redistribution of House of Commons seats to facilitate a possible spring election, sources said yesterday. Mr. Martin — who is widely expected to win the leadership in November — is considering an election in the spring of 2004, but faces a potential backlash in Western Canada if he calls one before British Columbia and Alberta gain the new seats to which they are entitled. The redistribution, based on population changes shown in the 2001 census, is scheduled to take effect in mid-July, 2004, but the government could force Elections Canada to move it up with a legislative change. One source in the Martin camp said the candidate is well aware of the potential problem in Western Canada with calling an election before British Columbia and Alberta get the two new seats redistribution will give to each of them. Mr. Martin has pledged to address western alienation and democratic reform as a priority, and it would be virtually unthinkable, the source said, to call an election that would give less weight to the West. He said Mr. Martin would push Elections Canada to ensure the process can be expedited, that he would "go to virtually any length to ensure the West is not disenfranchised." The source stressed that Mr. Martin is not necessarily planning for an early vote if he wins the leadership, although he wants the flexibility to be able to call one. Most observers believe Mr. Martin would go to the people in the spring in an effort to earn his own mandate. The redistribution issue has already raised hackles in the West, where Mr. Martin hopes to reverse the Liberals' traditional poor showing. Canadian Alliance Leader Stephen Harper has said he would campaign aggressively on the issue should Mr. Martin call an election before July, 2004. Columnists in Vancouver have warned the Liberal front-runner that he would risk a backlash if he called an election before the extra seats are added. But the new ridings should help the Liberals because they encompass urban or suburban areas where the governing party tends to fare better, particularly in the West. Mr. Martin would have to wait until taking power to change the date, but could signal his intention to do so — and ask Elections Canada to be prepared — before the leadership vote. Canadian Alliance House Leader John Reynolds said Chief Electoral Officer Jean-Pierre Kingsley has indicated to his party that the redistribution could be completed by next March. Mr. Reynolds said the Liberal government should not wait until after a leadership convention but should introduce a bill to speed up the redistribution when it returns to the Commons in September. He said Mr. Martin should discuss the issue with Liberal House Leader Don Boudria — a long-time loyalist of Prime Minister Jean Chr้tien — to make sure the Commons addresses it as soon as possible. However, Mr. Martin has been reluctant to make a public display of over-confidence by talking as if his win in November is a foregone conclusion. "We need certainty one way or another," Mr. Reynolds said. "I think it's a good idea [to move up the implementation date] and I think they should get it out of the way in the fall." He said Mr. Boudria should work with opposition leaders and predicted there would be no resistance to moving the date. "If the West is going to get what is coming to us, we certainly need to have the next election under the new boundaries." Mr. Kingsley said recently that Elections Canada is operating on two tracks — preparing for a possible future election on the old boundaries or one on the new. Under the new boundaries, seven seats will be added to the House of Commons — two in British Columbia, two in Alberta and three in Ontario. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 09:00:06 -0600 (CST) From: Bruce Mills Subject: Decision on deer may be unpopular http://www.canoe.ca/LondonOpinions/home.html >From London Free Press Decision on deer may be unpopular A planning committee recommendation urging a fall study of the deer herd in Sifton Bog and the potential use of a sterilization vaccine to control their population warrants a look by city council, but the day may come when it has to make an unpopular decision. It's fine for Coun. Ab Chahbar to wax eloquent about London being a "leader across the country" in terms of a "humane way out" to control the deer population -- as long as it works. If it doesn't, it shouldn't become a political way out. The reality is that growing deer populations have become a problem in many areas of Ontario. Not only does this adversely affect landowners, but, in some instances, too many deer and too little vegetation to sustain them leads to starvation and stunted growth -- hardly a kindness. City council has a responsibility to strike a balance between wildlife and residents of the area. Experts say Sifton Bog can sustain no more than eight deer without affecting adjacent neighbourhoods. There are now about 45 deer. The Bambi syndrome and the stunning beauty and grace of deer make a cull distasteful to many people. But far worse is death from starvation, disease or collisions with automobiles, which can cause injury or death to people, as well. Ordering a cull is never an easy decision. But some day it may become the only one. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 09:00:45 -0600 (CST) From: Bruce Mills Subject: Alleged shooter feared rival drug dealers http://www.durhamregion.com/dr/regions/durham/story/1173926p-1399074c.html >From durhamregion.com Alleged shooter feared rival drug dealers Accused in Pickering hoops shooting bought gun for protection Jul 2, 2003 Stephen Shaw, Staff Writer More from this author DURHAM -- Marlon Maragh is a twice-convicted crack dealer who was serving a weekend jail sentence when he allegedly shot a man during a basketball game at Pine Ridge High School, court has heard. During testimony Friday, the 23-year-old man told a jury he's part of group known as the "Galloway Boys," named after the rough Scarborough neighbourhood where he grew up, and he carried a pistol for protection from rival drug traffickers. Mr. Maragh, known as "Indian" on the street, has pleaded not guilty to attempted murder, flight from police and numerous firearm charges in connection with the April 3, 2001 wounding of Teran Richards. The 22-year-old former Ajax man was shot four times with a .357-calibre revolver during a dispute over a foul at an after-hours pickup basketball game in the school gymnasium. Identity of the gunman is the central issue in the two-month-old trial; the defence maintains someone else pulled the trigger. Mr. Maragh, testifying in his own defence, told court he started selling crack cocaine for money while growing up in Galloway. He was convicted of drug possession in 1999, drug trafficking in 2000 and received a second trafficking conviction Feb. 26, 2001. He was serving a 90-day weekend jail sentence at the time of the shooting. Mr. Maragh, who also has convictions for taking a motor vehicle without consent and breaching bail and probation, told court he was trying to stay out of trouble after getting out of jail in December 2000. Around that time, he said, his friend was shot to death by a rival group from the Scarborough neighbourhood known as Malvern, which has been in a violent turf war with the Galloway Boys for years. "People were just fighting over who can sell drugs where, who's tougher, who's stronger... One person had a problem with another person and they just turned it into one area against another... It had been going on for years," Mr. Maragh said of the conflict. When his friend was killed, word went around the Malvern group was issuing death threats targeting all Galloway Boys. "...They just wanted to get anybody from our area... My group didn't have none (guns) and we wanted to protect ourselves... We needed a gun 'cause someone killed our friend," Mr. Maragh said. He said he asked an associate he identified as "Razor," for whom he sold crack, to sell him a gun. "Razor", he said, showed him several guns, including a .45-calibre pistol and a .357-revolver - the type Mr. Richards was shot with and which was recovered after the shooting. Mr. Maragh said he bought the .45 from "Razor" and paid $700. Court has heard three men fled the school gymnasium after the shooting, leaving in a car that crashed in north Pickering during a police pursuit. Two of the occupants were arrested, Mr. Maragh and Tyshan Riley, while a third got away. Police recovered two guns, a .45 and .357, which are entered as evidence. Mr. Maragh's testimony was to continue today. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 09:01:17 -0600 (CST) From: Bruce Mills Subject: Bandit robs gas station http://www.durhamregion.com/dr/regions/oshawa/story/1173984p-1399031c.html >From durhamregion.com Bandit robs gas station Jul 2, 2003 OSHAWA - The attendant of a gas station at Bloor and Simcoe streets was held at gunpoint early Monday morning. Durham Regional Police say a lone man, whose face was covered with a bandana, pointed a handgun at an employee at Ultramar at 1:20 a.m. The suspect requested money from the attendant, but was denied, driving away in a vehicle, say police. Anyone with information about the incident is asked to call Durham Regional Police, 905-579-1520 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 09:01:56 -0600 (CST) From: Bruce Mills Subject: Customs officers seize weapons http://www.canada.com/regina/news/story.asp?id=E0A7DAF4-5C17-496E-99EC-A2015601B3C3 >From CP Customs officers seize weapons CP Thursday, July 03, 2003 ESTEVAN, Saskatchewan -- Loaded handguns and a rocket launcher were among weapons seized last weekend by Canada Customs officers at a border crossing in southern Saskatchewan. The department says the firearms were taken from a moving van that had stopped at the North Portal border crossing on Sunday. The cache also included 13 rifles and shotguns, four live smoke grenades and two training grenades, along with 43-hundred rounds of ammunition. The driver allegedly told inspectors during two interviews that he was not carrying any weapons. According to the customs officials, the mover was transporting the goods to Alaska for someone else. A 36-year-old man from Minnesota is facing several customs and Criminal Code charges. He appeared in court in Estevan this morning and was freed on five-thousand dollars bail. 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