From: owner-can-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca (Cdn-Firearms Digest) To: cdn-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Subject: Cdn-Firearms Digest V6 #268 Reply-To: cdn-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Sender: owner-can-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Errors-To: owner-can-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Precedence: normal Cdn-Firearms Digest Saturday, July 12 2003 Volume 06 : Number 268 In this issue: Re: Al's Piece: V. 6, # 266 CFD Re: Congressional medal seller will face weapons charge RE: If the result of individual liberty did not demonstrate that some Troubled waters ahead for Martin? Unofficial race for Premier's successor has begun Deer pose a threat to safety of people Sept. 18 possible vote date: Eves Mad Hatter's Ball declares that the world is square Re: Mad Hatter's Ball declares that the world is square ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 10:41:28 -0600 (CST) From: "Charles Stansfield" Subject: Re: Al's Piece: V. 6, # 266 CFD This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C34859.40E14460 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, All -- One way to solve the problem of not many people standing up for their rights is to educate them from the time they are children as to what their rights are, and to consistently observe them. Yep, it's a lot of work to make up a solid "Family Constitution", but it builds the unshakeable foundation for later life, in my opinion. And at the same time, parents and other interested taxpaying parties absolutely need to gain control of their school boards and rag on school principals so that something resembling "Rights" are taught from Kindergarten onwards. Not just taught, but continually reinforced, with kids being rewarded for knowing their rights. Mighty oaks from tiny acorns grow, after all. The "three R's" is a great foundation, but then we have to apply it to something concrete. Unless we use knowledge, we will lose it as Al says about Rights. Here's an example: how many of you remember anything about algebra or trigonometry? If you do, it's because it's relevant in your life; if you don't, it's because it's not. I believe, like Al, that the same dynamic applies to the individual exercise of Rights and Freedoms, which flows into the big river of Canadian societal makeup. Although some people will call such Civics training "indoctrination", virtually every skill has to be learned at a basic, unshakeable level before the individual can competently put his/her own "touch" on it. Same with a knowledge about Rights and Freedoms. Some of these students will grow up to be politicians, while the others will be the ones who vote for them. One of the reasons why Politics and Politicians have fallen into disrepute these days is because there is no unified way for citizens to critically analyze performance of our elected individuals. If Politics is supposed to be a "serving of the citizenry", even a "calling", then we need to train people how to *be* of service, and how to understand when someone is usurping or hoodwinking the trust that his/her fellow citizens have placed in their Representatives. For Democracy to be revitalized and to put an end to "Old Boys' Clubs", the electorate has to be able to discern "shit from shinola". And that can only happen if they are taught how to do so from the moment they begin to observe and think. Cheers, Charles [Moderator's Note: Please turn off HTML/MIME and/or "quoted-printable" encoding before posting messages to the Digest - plain text only. BNM] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 11:01:16 -0600 (CST) From: Bruce Mills Subject: Re: Congressional medal seller will face weapons charge JP Poulin wrote: > I take it we don't have the full story. Weapons charge for a medal?? Odd. > > What I'd like to know is how he came to be in possession of a Congressional > Medal of Honor. Those don't come by easy. > > JP Poulin Apparently he was a dealer and a member of a Medal Colletors group; he may have also collected "memorabillia" including *gasp* weapons! http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/TPStory/LAC/20030710/UMEDAM//?query=medal War buff accused of selling prized U.S. medal By JONATHAN FOWLIE With a report from Associated Press Thursday, July 10, 2003 - Page A9 An executive member of a Canadian society dedicated to preserving military relics for future generations appeared in a Buffalo court yesterday charged with illegally selling a U.S. Congressional Medal of Honor from the 1860s. Edward Fedora, 67, was arrested in Buffalo by the FBI as part of a federal sting operation and charged with three offences that could land him in jail for up to three years. "I'm stunned," Warren Carroll, president of the Canadian Society of Military Medals and Insignia, said from his Thornhill home last night. "I've never heard of Ed getting into those kinds of problems. He's always been a supporter" of the military, said Mr. Carroll, who has known Mr. Fedora for more than 20 years. The Buffalo office of the Federal Bureau of Investigation became aware in the spring that Medals of Honor were being offered on eBay, FBI Special Agent Paul Moscal said in an interview last night. Selling them has always been illegal in the United States, a fact that has recently been highlighted in numerous magazines devoted to collecting. Special Agent Moscal said that in co-operation with the RCMP, the FBI bought a Medal of Honor on May 28 in Ontario for $12,000 (U.S.). After having that medal authenticated by naval authorities, the FBI set up another purchase, this time in the United Sates. That was a dual-citation Congressional Medal of Honor awarded to U.S. Army First Sergeant George Washington Roosevelt for heroic acts in 1862 and 1863 during battle. That medal had been listed on eBay for $30,000 (U.S.), and officers set up a sting Tuesday. "Thirty thousand dollars is an extraordinary amount of money for a medal, but the real value is isn't economic. "The real value is the honour that's attached to it. It's presented by the president of the United States, based on a congressional act," Special Agent Moscal said. Ian Steingaszner, treasurer of the collectors society, said last night he was surprised Mr. Fedora has been accused of selling those medals because it is so widely known that it is illegal to do so. "Ed may be many things, but he's not stupid," Mr. Steingaszner said. The Canadian Society of Military Medals and Insignia has close to 250 members and meets once a month to trade and discuss military memorabilia. Mr. Fedora, a Mississauga businessman, is charged with conspiracy to sell a congressional medal, unlawful sale of a Congressional Medal of Honor, and not declaring the medal when he brought it across the Peace Bridge into the United States. Gisela Fedora, Mr. Fedora's wife, is also charged with conspiracy. Mr. Fedora appeared in U.S. District Court in Buffalo yesterday, where bail was set at $50,000. Ms. Fedora did not appear. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 11:13:35 -0600 (CST) From: Hayes Holdings Subject: RE: If the result of individual liberty did not demonstrate that some Bruce; Hayek is one of the most famous and influential of all free-market economists. His work, along with his teacher Ludwig von Mises have literally changed the face of our world. They were especially effective in debunking the routines sold by economists like Keynes. Von Mises set up the Austrian school of economics and his work is everywhere. (www.mises.org/) Hayek has done scads of work with think tanks like IHS, ISI, Cato, the Fraser Institute, Atlas Foundation.... The list is LLLLLOOOOOONNNNNGGGGG! Anything that Hayek wrote is worth reading. But a good one to start with is the "Road to Serfdom". http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0226320618/103-0307473-229 7411?vi=glance There is too much stuff on Hayek to list here, but a good start is: http://www.hayekcenter.org/ - ---------------------------------------------- Jason Hayes - Principal Hayes Holdings Consulting hh@hayz.ws / www.hayz.ws #1936 - 246 Stewart Green SW Calgary, AB, Canada T3H 3C8 - ---------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 11:14:49 -0600 (CST) From: Bruce Mills Subject: Troubled waters ahead for Martin? http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1057961413319&call_pageid=968332188774&col=968350116467 Jul. 12, 2003. 01:00 AM Troubled waters ahead for Martin? Paul Martin's standing as possibly the most popular politician in modern Canadian history appears to be holding steady. Largely because of the prospect that a Martin-led government will soon replace Prime Minister Jean Chrétien's regime, the Liberal Party has experienced an unexpectedly huge upsurge in party membership sign-ups. The success of the recruitment campaign in western Canada during the current leadership race has led to speculation about a possible breakthrough in the West, where the Liberals hold only 15 of 88 Commons seats. And polls have shown that under Martin, the Liberals could also increase their seats in other regions of the country in a national election. But the outlook for Martin is a lot more complicated — and possibly a lot more troublesome — than his surprising hold on the public imagination would suggest. His popularity is in the abstract, and fails to take into account the mounting challenges the former finance minister will face if, as expected, he is chosen Liberal leader in November and takes over as prime minister shortly thereafter. As well-liked as Martin is, he will still have to overcome the widespread resentment toward the Liberals built up among voters during the Chrétien era. Years of scandals have led to a deeply ingrained notion that the current government is high-handed, wasteful and addicted to cronyism and patronage. That perception was driven home forcefully once again during the uproar over the lavish spending habits of former privacy commissioner George Radwanski, a long-time Liberal insider. And the idea that things are out of control in Ottawa is likely to be fanned in the months ahead as Chrétien continues to hand out Senate seats and other plum jobs to the Liberal faithful. Then there's gun control. The extent of the rural backlash unleashed by the gun registry plan — with its runaway, $1 billion in costs — is something a new Liberal leader is going to have to confront before going to the polls. When it comes to the all-important question of balancing Ottawa's books, Martin (assuming he wins the leadership) is likely to face an entirely different set of options than he would have expected two years ago, when the federal government collected $20.2 billion more than it spent. An easing of economic growth created by the downturn in U.S. business conditions is undercutting Ottawa's tax revenues at the very time spending demands are rising sharply, thanks to the SARS and mad-cow crises and to Chrétien. To fulfil the activist social agenda he carved out for his final 18 months in office, Chrétien has embarked on the biggest increase in federal spending in decades. He has earmarked tens of billions of dollars over the next three or four years to support a wide range of new programs. The result is that the federal government's hefty budget surpluses during Martin's tenure as finance minister could be disappearing. Finance Minister John Manley has said this year Ottawa may have to spend its $4-billion "rainy day" fund just to keep from slipping into a deficit for the first time since the 1990s. This situation could badly limit Martin's ability to put a new stamp on government by devoting additional federal resources to his priorities such as urban infrastructure, health care, aboriginal problems, clean water and tax cuts. It also seems Martin will face a fresh political minefield with the provincial premiers, who this week demonstrated that they are keen to seriously challenge the federal government's traditional role in Confederation on a range of issues. Martin, who has always been more sympathetic than Chrétien to Quebecers' aspirations for more clout within Canada, is likely to agree to demands for enhanced co-operation between Ottawa and the provinces. But, as Chrétien has always said, the provinces' demands are not easily satisfied, and Martin could find himself caught in an open-ended struggle with restive premiers determined to redefine the way Canada works. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 11:28:56 -0600 (CST) From: Bruce Mills Subject: Unofficial race for Premier's successor has begun http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1057961413311&call_pageid=968256289824&col=968342212737 Jul. 12, 2003. 01:00 AM Unofficial race for Premier's successor has begun ROBERT BENZIE QUEEN'S PARK BUREAU It is just a whisper right now in Conservative corridors, but that's expected to change in the turbulent weeks ahead. With each passing day Premier Ernie Eves delays an election call, the quiet campaign to succeed him as Tory leader intensifies. Just 14 months after selecting Eves because he was supposedly Liberal Leader Dalton McGuinty's "worst nightmare," some Tories feel they have been saddled with a lacklustre chief. The new Premier's two throne speeches have failed to capture the electorate's imagination and his made-for-TV budget tabled in a Magna auto-parts facility on March 27 was a public-relations fiasco that Speaker Gary Carr's lawyer deemed "unconstitutional." Given Eves' erratic political judgment and his failure to inspire followers the way predecessor Mike Harris did, another leadership contest might follow shortly after an election loss to the Liberals. "If (the Premier) doesn't call the election in September, then it's basically a death watch because a spring (2004) vote looks very bad," says one senior Tory, noting voters traditionally punish governments that postpone elections until a fifth year. "Watch the leadership race heat up (this fall) if there's no election call," the source adds. Eves, 57, whose lack of discipline frustrates advisors because he is chronically late and frequently meanders "off message" in speeches, seems ill-equipped to contain jockeying by would-be successors. Indeed, last spring he sounded like an oblivious Mr. Magoo, insisting he was not threatened by "ambitious people" in his caucus. That was music to the ears of potential usurpers. No one is yet officially campaigning to topple Eves — unlike Prime Minister Jean Chretien's detractors in the federal Liberal Party, the Premier's rivals await an electoral defeat. Still, the undeclared race already has a front-runner in Enterprise Minister Jim Flaherty, 53, who finished second in the March 23, 2002 leadership vote. The pro-life Flaherty won almost 4 per cent of the vote last year and continues to be the Tories' right-wing standard bearer. But Flaherty proponents fear the centrist party establishment that ensured Eves' victory would never back their man. Although the Conservative re-election campaign document, The Road Ahead, was cribbed from Flaherty's 2002 platform, the Whitby-Ajax MPP remains a divisive figure in the party. "Jim can't win (a general election) because he can't appeal to the mainstream," confides one Tory insider, who touts Health Minister Tony Clement as the best bet to rebuild any post-Eves party. Clement, 42, a neo-conservative who finished third in the 2002 race, is viewed as a better coalition builder than Flaherty. He supported Eves on the second ballot of the leadership contest, which angered his right-wing supporters who moved to Flaherty. But the former PC president said he did not want to rupture the party into neo-con and Red Tory factions. The health minister's much-lauded performance during Toronto's two SARS outbreaks gave him an international profile, and he has been a bright light in Eves' cabinet. As well, the Brampton West-Mississauga MPP has impeccable connections. When he was spotted having lunch with a top federal Liberal recently, conspiracy-theorizing Flaherty-istas worried Clement was tapping into the Paul Martin political juggernaut. That kind of paranoia from the Flaherty camp is not just fixated on Clement — the spectre of departing Haliburton-Victoria-Brock MPP Chris Hodgson haunts them. Hodgson, 41, a popular former minister who retired from cabinet in January to spend more time with his family, has a formidable political machine that delivered the Tory crown to Eves. Mindful that Eves himself came out of retirement to "bigfoot" them in the fall of 2001, Flaherty's confreres fear that may happen again. To counter that, several key Hodgson allies have been supplanted by Flaherty loyalists in the party. Such jockeying, however, has resulted in speculation Hodgson, who is not seeking re-election, may co-chair a future Clement leadership campaign. "There's a little bit of a backlash to the Flaherty people who are there stirring up the pot. That's forcing others into the (leadership) game," said one Hodgson confidante, stressing the MPP has no plans to return to politics. While those "others" could include Municipal Affairs Minister David Young, 46, Consumer and Business Services Minister Tim Hudak, 35, or Finance Minister Janet Ecker, 49, so far the whisper campaign to succeed Eves swirls around Flaherty and Clement. And as that crescendo builds, it sounds a swan song for the Ernie Eves era. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 11:29:31 -0600 (CST) From: Bruce Mills Subject: Deer pose a threat to safety of people http://www.canoe.ca/LondonOpinions/letters.html London Free Press Letters to the Editor Saturday, July 12, 2003 Deer pose a threat to safety of people Recently I was walking my dog up Hazelden Lane. She startled a deer that leapt across the road into the path of an oncoming car. In the dark, the car and deer missed each other by seconds and centimetres. Fortunately, human tragedy, such as injury or worse, financial loss or a major insurance claim, did not take place this time. These deer are more than nuisances that feed on our residential vegetation -- they are a safety hazard. Who is protecting human life? The deer cull, based on environmental advice, needs to proceed as originally planned. Jutta Payne London ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 11:30:14 -0600 (CST) From: Bruce Mills Subject: Sept. 18 possible vote date: Eves http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1057961413924&call_pageid=968256289824&col=968342212737 Jul. 12, 2003. 01:00 AM Sept. 18 possible vote date: Eves Would mean election call in less than six weeks Stop tax-funded Tory ads, Liberal MPP urges CAROLINE MALLAN QUEEN'S PARK BUREAU CHIEF CHARLOTTETOWN—Ontarians should prepare themselves for going to the polls as early as Sept. 18, says Premier Ernie Eves. In his most candid comments yet about the likelihood of late summer or early fall election, Eves confirmed a Star report that the Ontario election might be held on Sept. 18. "There are lots of dates that could be likely election dates. That's one of them," he told reporters yesterday at the conclusion of the annual premiers' conference. A Sept. 18 vote means an election call on Aug. 20 — less than six weeks away. Senior Conservative officials, noting Ontario elections must be held on a Thursday, say other dates under consideration are Sept. 11 and Sept. 25. With Sept. 11 the second anniversary of the terrorist attacks on the United States, some Tory strategists feel it would be in poor taste to hold a vote that day. But one party insider, who favours a Sept. 11 election, said the date might be a poignant reminder Eves supported the U.S. invasion of Iraq despite the federal Liberal government's opposition to the war. "We should wrap ourselves in red, white and blue," the official said. Sept. 25 is also being considered, but because it falls two days before Rosh Hashanah there are concerns about offending Jewish voters, said another source. The vote must be held by June, 2004. Eves has already delayed an election call several times since succeeding Mike Harris as premier in April, 2002. Some Tories warn there is a chance he will postpone the vote until next spring. Meanwhile, a Liberal MPP is urging Ontario's chief elections officer, the provincial auditor and the Speaker of the Legislature to stop the Conservative government's taxpayer-funded advertising blitz. Jim Bradley (St. Catharines) has written to the three senior officials requesting they curb the "orgy of self-congratulatory, clearly partisan propaganda advertising." Eves' government has spent millions of dollars this year on TV commercials, radio and newspaper ads and information pamphlets touting the administration. "If the Conservative party wants to pay for this, I wouldn't be bothered by this," said Bradley, who estimates the Tories have spent $400 million on government advertising since 1995. "It's unacceptable for (these ads) to continue. It's cheating," he said, brandishing a glossy 12-page colour pamphlet entitled "Seniors Report," which recounts all that the government has done for the elderly. The so-called "Report to Taxpayers," which cost 24 cents each to produce and is being distributed to all Ontario households, boasts photographs of Eves and Citizenship Minister Carl DeFaria. Similar booklets focused on health care and education have also been mailed out with portraits of the Premier, Health Minister Tony Clement and Education Minister Elizabeth Witmer. Speaker Gary Carr said he was powerless to help. "It's a government spending, not Legislative Assembly spending, so there not really much that the Speaker can do," he said. Behind the scenes, Eves is scrambling to find a new chief of staff to replace Steve Pengelly, who sources say is leaving to work with government's SARS secretariat to handle economic recovery efforts. "No final decisions have been made, quite frankly, with respect to anybody's role in that — that includes mine and Mr. Pengelly," the Premier said. with files from Robert Benzie ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 11:40:03 -0600 (CST) From: "jim davies" Subject: Mad Hatter's Ball declares that the world is square > Subject: Gun Lobby Attacks on Canada's Gun Control Efforts at the UN Backfire: > > "Aggressive attacks on Canada by the National Rifle Association (NRA) and > the Canadian gun lobby only strengthen the resolve of groups and governments > around the world to tackle illegal gun running," said Professor Wendy Cukier, >...Ambassador Kuniko Inoguchi of Japan, the conference chair, thanked the > gun lobby for its comments but expressed her confidence in Canada's approach... > "Canada's persistence despite the relentless and vocal opposition of the > gun lobby has been commendable," noted Rebecca Peters, Director of IANSA. "The > results of the program are impressive and we can learn from the challenges > Canada experienced with implementing the law in the face of many obstacles... > The NGO Dykes of the world, with their busywork "careers" at and around the UN at stake have decided, to no ones surprise, that the "work" must continue. Even though the thoroughly discredited NGO system, sidebar to the even more uselessly ineffective UN is in imminent danger of disintegration to to it's decades-long record of incompetence the Wimmyn of the testicle-and-gun-confiscation lobby sail on, blissfully ignorant of reality. As ever. And, Canada, that strange creature forever searching the world stage for the secret of the Canadian Identity [beyond "we hate Americans"] highlights one of the things that makes "us" stand out in the world: Rabid Feminist Hatred. Of men, of democracy, of justice. [oh, yeah one other thing: "Doctor" Wendy Cukier? BwaaaaaHaaaaaHaaaa!!!!] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 11:58:21 -0600 (CST) From: Bruce Mills Subject: Re: Mad Hatter's Ball declares that the world is square jim davies wrote: > [oh, yeah one other thing: "Doctor" Wendy Cukier? BwaaaaaHaaaaaHaaaa!!!!] This is just more of the same shrill shrieking she did the day before the "extension" (that wasn't an extension) deadline passed on July 1st. Her NewsWire press release claiming "Victory" was ignored then, and this one will be too. She is desparate for some good news, some positive attention from the press. This is her attempt. Instead of simply crowing about her own successes, she has to point out that *we* are "failing". She reeks of defeat. Her days are numbered. 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