From: owner-can-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca (Cdn-Firearms Digest) To: cdn-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Subject: Cdn-Firearms Digest V6 #547 Reply-To: cdn-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Sender: owner-can-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Errors-To: owner-can-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Precedence: normal Cdn-Firearms Digest Monday, October 6 2003 Volume 06 : Number 547 In this issue: COPS SAY GUN-TOTING SUSPECT MAY BE HIDING OUT IN NORTH END PAIR BUSTED IN VANIER SHOOTING YOUR MORNING SMILE Cops shoot tire of stolen truck, arrest suspects COPS RACE TO GUN CALL, FIND TOYS TV violence Ottawa Sun Editorial Letter - Info on Writer Needed Re: The Final Indignity Letter: (Martin has much to answer for.) Police hunt gun-wielding robber after rampage Canadian Firearms Program Statistics enforcement Two car thief suspects shot ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 10:13:32 -0600 (CST) From: "Breitkreuz, Garry - Assistant 1" Subject: COPS SAY GUN-TOTING SUSPECT MAY BE HIDING OUT IN NORTH END PUBLICATION: The Edmonton Sun DATE: 2003.10.06 EDITION: Final SECTION: News PAGE: 7 BYLINE: SHANE HOLLADAY AND DAN PALMER, EDMONTON SUN dan.palmer@edm.sunpub.com - -------------------------------------------------------------------------= 'DESPERATE RAMPAGE' COPS SAY GUN-TOTING SUSPECT MAY BE HIDING OUT IN NORTH END - -------------------------------------------------------------------------= Cops believe a gun-toting suspect wanted for a recent carjacking and a string of armed robberies could still be hiding out in a pair of north-end neighbourhoods. "We've got every reason to believe he's in those neighbourhoods," city police Staff Sgt. Brian Nowlan said yesterday, referring to the Calder and Inglewood areas. "We have no reason to believe he's not." Those two neighbourhoods are near the last place the suspect is known to have abandoned a stolen vehicle - which was in Calder, near 125 Avenue and 128 Street late Saturday. WON'T RELEASE NAME Nowlan said police are "pretty confidant" they know who their suspect is, but he was unable to release the name last night. "There's been a lot of information disseminated to all the members and all the divisions," acting city police Insp. Allan Pitts told the Sun. The man, described by police as about about six feet tall and in his 20s, reportedly has short, spiky blond hair. He's wanted in connection with a lengthy crime spree that started with a break-in at 11302 119 St. about 9 a.m. Saturday. Alarms were set off and an employee called police. They arrived to see the suspect climbing into a stolen white Oldsmobile. As he drove away from the building he swerved toward one of the cops, who dove over his car to escape harm. A high-speed chase ensued, but was called off to protect public safety. The suspect abandoned the Oldsmobile behind a home near 80 Street and 128 Avenue. Gun in hand, he fled north on foot and ran across a father unloading groceries from his Ford Explorer. According to neighbours, he pressed the handgun to the man's head and stole the SUV. It was dumped near 128 Avenue and 123A Street, but cops lost the suspect's trail. Hours later, around 7 p.m., a man began a series of armed robberies. After firing shots from a 9mm handgun, he fled a food store at 11902 129 Ave. in a green Jeep Cherokee, which was later found abandoned in Calder. Nowlan said he wasn't aware of any more car thefts or armed robberies reported in the Inglewood or Calder areas after police recovered the Cherokee. City police spokesman Sgt. Chris Hayden said the kind of criminal who might be motivated to hold up a furniture store - one of the stores the man held up - is on a desperate "rampage." "Somebody desperate for cash and taking advantage of the situation, whether it's a single employee or whatever," he said. "It could be for drugs or a real quick need for cash." CONCERN FOR PUBLIC Pitts said the public has cause for concern with this suspect on the loose. "I would be concerned," he said. A woman who lives near the place where the Cherokee was abandoned said she hopes the man is caught soon. "I looked out my window and I saw all these police cars and the helicopter," said Evelyn, who didn't want her last name used. She talked to officers briefly, then went back into her house. Evelyn said she opened the Sun the next morning and learned about the man's crime robbery spree. "I'm glad he didn't come to my house. But it could happen anywhere. I sure hope they catch him." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 10:14:59 -0600 (CST) From: "Breitkreuz, Garry - Assistant 1" Subject: PAIR BUSTED IN VANIER SHOOTING PUBLICATION: The Ottawa Sun DATE: 2003.10.05 EDITION: Final SECTION: News PAGE: 18 BYLINE: ANDREW SEYMOUR, OTTAWA SUN - -------------------------------------------------------------------------= PAIR BUSTED IN VANIER SHOOTING 2 MORE SOUGHT AFTER ATTACK IN APARTMENT BUILDING - -------------------------------------------------------------------------= Ottawa police have arrested two men and are looking for two others after shots were fired near a Vanier apartment building Friday night. The shooting happened at about 9:30 p.m. on Blake Blvd. Police said a 21-year-old man had gone to a third-floor apartment to meet the occupants when he was attacked by four men. During the altercation, the man was able to escape from the apartment and at least two shots were fired from a handgun. "There were shots fired but he wasn't hit," said Det. Richard Charbonneau, adding police are investigating the motive behind the gunplay and assault. "No bullets went through walls, no one was seriously injured," he said. The victim was taken to hospital with non-life-threatening cuts to his head from the initial assault. Officers were able to recover ammunition at the scene and hoped to recover the weapon after executing a search warrant. Police would not say if the man was running away when the shots were fired. SAME SITE AS SUICIDE Charbonneau said two suspects were arrested nearby shortly after the shooting. Police were interviewing the suspects yesterday afternoon and charges had yet to be laid. The apartment building where the shooting occurred is the same building where a 42-year-old man stabbed himself to death during a domestic dispute in February 2002. Police initially suspected foul play in the man's death, but an autopsy confirmed the wound was self-inflicted. Anyone with information on the Friday shooting is asked to call major crime at 236-1222, ext. 5477. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 10:15:51 -0600 (CST) From: "Breitkreuz, Garry - Assistant 1" Subject: YOUR MORNING SMILE PUBLICATION GLOBE AND MAIL DATE: MON OCT.06,2003 PAGE: A2 BYLINE: CLASS: News EDITION: Metro DATELINE: WORDS: 39 - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- YOUR MORNING SMILE - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- An apartment dweller on the Halifax waterfront fired both barrels of his shotgun out to sea from his balcony just as the hurricane hit shore. He figured it was his only chance for a hole in Juan. Glenn Cooper ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 10:16:30 -0600 (CST) From: "Breitkreuz, Garry - Assistant 1" Subject: Cops shoot tire of stolen truck, arrest suspects PUBLICATION: The Hamilton Spectator DATE: 2003.10.04 SECTION: Local news PAGE: A11 SOURCE: The Hamilton Spectator BYLINE: Paul Legall - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Cops shoot tire of stolen truck, arrest suspects - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Three men arrested in a stolen truck after police shot out a rear tire were wanted by Midland police where the vehicle and other property were stolen. Hamilton police Sergeant Maggie McKittrick said the men -- who are 20, 21 and 28 years old -- will face charges of possession of weapons dangerous to the public, dangerous driving, possession of burglary tools, failure to stop for police and possession of stolen property over $5,000. She said these charges relate to an incident at about 1 p.m. Thursday when police had the stolen pickup boxed in with their cruisers at Highway 52 and Copetown Road outside of Ancaster. Police say the 20-year-old driver tried to run down two policemen and nicked one of them when they approached the Dodge Dakota on foot and tried to arrest them. As the driver sped away on Copetown Road, police drew their service revolvers and fired at least two shots. One bullet struck and deflated the right rear tire, causing the vehicle to spin out of control and come to rest in the driveway of the Crossroads John Deere dealership compound on Copetown Road near Jerseyville Road. One man was arrested inside the cab of the vehicle and three others were found hiding in or outside a large warehouse on the property. Police also recovered a gym bag with a sawed-off pump action shotgun and a sledge hammer and crow bar, which they believe were used as burglary tools. A motorcycle and construction equipment were hidden under a tarp in the truck. plegall@thespec.com 905-526-3385 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 10:18:20 -0600 (CST) From: "Breitkreuz, Garry - Assistant 1" Subject: COPS RACE TO GUN CALL, FIND TOYS PUBLICATION: The Winnipeg Sun DATE: 2003.10.05 EDITION: Final SECTION: News PAGE: A5 BYLINE: STAFF COLUMN: Police Briefs - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- POLICE BRIEFS COLUMN - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- PARTY POOPERS FACE SHOOTING CHARGES Two northern Manitoba men who allegedly shot through the window of a house Friday morning after being asked to leave a party will face several criminal charges, say police. RCMP said someone in a car filled with two women and four men allegedly used a shotgun to blast the front window of a house in Easterville as they drove by about 6:50 a.m. Easterville is about 400 kilometres north of Winnipeg, off Highway 27. Partygoer Matthew Beardy, 27, suffered minor injuries when shattered glass struck him. Police said yesterday the group of people in the car had been kicked out of the party earlier, and allegedly returned with a shotgun. RCMP officers from The Pas and Grand Rapids, as well as members of the canine and forensic identification units, took part in the arrests of two Easterville residents. At press time, several charges were pending, and the investigation was continuing. COPS RACE TO GUN CALL, FIND TOYS Reports of a drunken man with a shotgun yesterday morning had police scrambling to a Cavalier Drive housing complex. Shortly before 11 a.m., a person using a pay phone called police, claiming a drunk man carrying a shotgun was inside a unit where a number of children lived. Six cruisers were sent before police learned the gun was a toy, said Insp. Tom Klotczko. "We had to treat the call as legitimate," said Klotczko. "Unfortunately we had to tie up a lot of resources while we checked out the call." Several children from the apartment were playing with plastic guns clearly marked as toys with orange tips. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 10:20:24 -0600 (CST) From: paul chicoine Subject: TV violence Oh silly me! Scanning the headlines I got through the first paragraph and thought, I know some people who would be interested in this. I think it was the term 'nanny state" that pulled it all together. Of course I got down to the signature and , well, there you go...the pride of Dundas...good one. ***** http://www.canada.com/montreal/montrealgazette/letters/story.asp?id=EE4ACE26 - -3074-42C3-8E73-894014FFC044 Easy way to stop TV violence: turn it off The Gazette Monday, October 06, 2003 I can't help but shake my head at 11-year-old Montreal student Flavie Laliberté's petition (Gazette, Sept 30, "Petition on TV violence presented on Hill"). This is how low reliance on the nanny state has brought us: Begging Heritage Minister Sheila Copps to save us from violence on TV! Instead of whining to the federal government to restrict the freedom of choice for the rest of us, how about exercising a little self-restraint? There are all kinds of things Laliberté could be doing at home in the evening. At dinner time, she could put on some uplifting classical music and enjoy her dinner with her family. She could read a book, go for a walk, play a game or work on a jigsaw puzzle. She could even do her homework! Laliberté should stop intruding into the lives of the rest of us: save herself by turning off the TV! Bruce N. Mills Dundas, Ont. © Copyright 2003 Montreal GazetteEasy way to stop TV violence: turn it off ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 10:21:40 -0600 (CST) From: Mark L Horstead Subject: Ottawa Sun Editorial Letter - Info on Writer Needed The following letter appeared in this morning's Ottawa Sun http://www.canoe.ca/OttawaSun/editorial.html and the name of the writer strikes a bell. Isn't/wasn't he connected heavily with the federal PCs? His resume is available on line at http://pages.ca.inter.net/~cliff/Html/resume.htm Mark Re "Letters to the Editor," by Richard McConnell and Brian Newman (Oct. 3): Firstly, both of you gentlemen use the word "national" when clearly the Canadian Alliance is anything but. The raison d'etre of the CA is to get Quebec out of Canada. Maybe you bunch of lets-pretend Tories outta be talking to the Bloc Quebecois, as clearly they have more in common with you than anyone else. A union of the CA and Bloc would allow both of you to field candidates in all ridings in your common cause. There is no right to unite, your party was formed as a protest against a leader who has been gone for 10 years now. Canadians want a truly national alternative to the Liberals and you are not, and never will be the answer to that question, name changes and wetsuits included. The CA has been the major reason the Liberals have so easily been able to hold power in the country. Time to get over it and come home, so we can get on with the job at hand and send the red menace of Liberalism packing. If you truly have the "nation's" interest at heart, remember we want you to come home -- all will be forgiven. Cliff Horner ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 10:56:35 -0600 (CST) From: Mark L Horstead Subject: Re: The Final Indignity > From: Rick > Date: 2003/10/06 Mon AM 11:30:49 EST > To: undisclosed-recipients: ; > Subject: The Final Indignity > As if getting killed isn't bad enough. The worst thing is that pumped up, self > important wench plays CBC Theatre with their bodies. I guess that makes her > feel like she's in there, servin' with the boys. Yep, just one of the troops... > > I know if I were doing a tour right now, my will would clearly say I wanted my > body accompanied home - and met - by my fellow soldiers and only my fellow > soldiers. I'd make sure everyone knew about it so six kinds of hell could be > raised if I did get killed and the Jean and Adrienne gong show tried to get > involved. Given the fact that the Griffon helicopter that the Mulroney government graced us with almost a decade ago is incapable of operating in any area that we're likely to deploy troops in a combat or near-combat situation in the foreseeable future and my age, it's highly unlikely that such is likely to happen to me but these are my sentiments exactly, and similar instructions would be left in many people's hands prior to deployment. One of three main reasons why I'll never be promoted beyond my current rank is that I had a letter published in the Edmonton Sun in late 1998 shortly after the mid-air explosion of a Labrador helicopter slagging the defence minister and stating that he should have been barred at the main gate of CFB Greenwood rather than being permitted to sully the memorial service. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 10:57:02 -0600 (CST) From: Bruce Mills Subject: Letter: (Martin has much to answer for.) http://www.torontosun.com/CalgarySun/editorial.html >From Calgary Sun I commend Ian Robinson for his incisive views on "smart politicians" such as Paul Martin. (Sept. 28.) He is correct in his characterization of their ability to create a trail of wreckage. With this addendum: As owner of Canada Steamship Lines, Martin has cleverly avoided taxation which most of us cannot. While he was finance minister, $500 million was blown on the fraudulent "gun control" legislation. He didn't flinch. On his watch, multi-millions were withheld from the provinces, which cut into health, education, and police protection. Billions were lost in the infamous HRDC scandal. Provincial and municipal governments were forced to cut services. Now I know what "trickle down" means. Len Miller (Martin has much to answer for.) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 10:57:27 -0600 (CST) From: Bruce Mills Subject: Police hunt gun-wielding robber after rampage http://www.canada.com/search/story.aspx?id=0b9c0ff4-61db-4476-956f-7909b80ac15c Police hunt gun-wielding robber after rampage Tom Barrett and Florence Loyie The Edmonton Journal Sunday, October 05, 2003 (Photograph) CREDIT: Greg Southam, The Journal Liz Ozga waits for the car that ran through her back fence to be taken away on Saturday morning. EDMONTON - A gun-wielding robber took police on a wild ride Saturday, sticking up stores, firing shots, terrorizing victims and stealing cars at gunpoint in a bizarre 10-hour crime rampage. The trouble began with a reported house break-in at 9 a.m. followed by a high-speed chase, culminating in a pair of violent robberies at about 7:30 p.m. Police from across the city converged on the north end in a massive search for the lone suspect they believe is responsible for all the crimes. The investigation ended for the night with police huddled outside a west-end house, hoping the desperate crook would show up. "The person we are looking at has been involved in such things before," said acting police Insp. Al Pitts. "Exactly the same circumstances, exactly the same area, exactly the same driving pattern with a total disregard for police or public safety. He was of interest to police even before this incident." Barry Hunter was standing behind the counter at the Source Adult Video outlet at 12930 97th St. around 7:30 p.m. when a man with a gun came through the door demanding he empty the register. "I kind of froze," said Hunter. "I didn't know whether it was a joke or what. Then he said, 'I'm going to start counting down from five, and when I get to zero I'm going to blow your head off.' " Hunter quickly handed over the money. Then the man demanded he give him a safe on the store floor. "I told him it was welded to the floor and kicked it to show him." A few minutes later, Jay Kim was in the back of his store, Calder Foods, at 11902 129th Ave., when he heard a commotion in the front where his wife was working. "I heard this loud screaming and the sounds of a gunshot," he said. Police later determined the robber pumped three shots into the ceiling when Kim's wife didn't respond to his demands fast enough. Kim raced to the front of the store and got into a wrestling match with the armed intruder, who finally freed himself and raced away with the police in pursuit as calls about the crime rampage kept coming in. The day's trouble had started early Saturday morning. Liz Ozga was enjoying her morning coffee around 9 a.m when the chain-link fence in her backyard exploded inward, sending dirt, a water barrel and sweet peas flying. A young man jumped from the battered white Oldsmobile that demolished the fence and started walking toward her house. "When I saw him go out with a gun, I just froze," she said. "He walked down the sidewalk and through the yard. I thought, 'what do I do if he tries to get into the house?' " Two spent shells were recovered from the back of the Oldsmobile, but Pitts said they don't know of any shots fired by police or the suspect at that time. The man had led officers on a chase through several north-end neighbourhoods. It began after they went to investigate a reported house break-in near 119th Street and 114th Avenue. Once he left Ozga's yard, the man ordered the driver out of a black Ford Explorer at gunpoint and made his getaway. The vehicle was abandoned a few blocks away. tbarrett@thejournal.canwest.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 10:57:50 -0600 (CST) From: Bruce Mills Subject: Canadian Firearms Program Statistics http://www.cfc.gc.ca/en/general_public/program_statistics/default.asp >From CFC Canadian Firearms Program Statistics Licences 1.3 Million Possession Only Licences (POLs) issued under the current legislation are valid. 620,000 Possession and Acquisition Licences (PALs) issued under the current legislation are valid. 5,200 Minor's Licences (MLs) issued under current legislation are valid. 33,000 Firearms Acquisition Certificates (FACs) under the previous legislation are still valid. Registration 1.6 Million firearm owners have at least one registration certificate in the Canadian Firearms Registration System (CFRS). 6.6 Million firearms have been registered. Canadian Firearms Registration On-Line (CFRO) 2.7 Million CFRO queries have been made by police and other law enforcement officials since December 1, 1998. Note: Police and law enforcement officials have controlled access to some firearms data via Canadian Firearms Registration On-Line, which contains a subset of the information contained on the computerized Canadian Firearms Registration System. CFRO does not contain data on firearm owners other than basic information such as firearms licence numbers, home addresses etc. For further information on CFRO please go to http://cfc-cafc.gc.ca/en/portals/police/cfro/default.asp . Statistics last updated on: September 20th, 2003 These statistics are provided by the Licensing and Registration Directorate of the Canada Firearms Centre. Some statistics are tabulated weekly and some are tabulated monthly. Additional statistics may be added as the program develops. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 11:14:19 -0600 (CST) From: "Tom Bryant" Subject: enforcement At this year's hunt camp I had a disappointing talk with one of the hunters. He dosn't see much use in getting excited as he hasn't heard about anybody having trouble with the gun laws. I know that we have traded some stories but is there a better source for some reporting on grief caused by this act? I would like to e-mail some real life stories of average people getting into trouble. ie gun siezures, hunters at game stops, just plain bad stuff happening to good people because of the act. Any help appreciated. By the way has anybody heard of hunters getting nabbed for gun law infractions this year? My local RCMP contact wishes it would all go away. He has noted open hostility from local farmers afraid that he has been sent by Ottawa to take their guns. One person went so far as to tell him that he was no longer welcome on their property and that he would have to get a warrant to put one foot across the property line. So much for public support. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 12:06:46 -0600 (CST) From: Bruce Mills Subject: Two car thief suspects shot http://vancouver.cbc.ca/regional/servlet/View?filename=bc_shootings20031006 >From CBC BC Two car thief suspects shot WebPosted Oct 6 2003 08:55 AM PDT VANCOUVER - There were two police shootings overnight – in Surrey and Vancouver – involving suspected car thieves. In Surrey, a man is in serious condition in hospital after being shot in the head by an RCMP officer. An RCMP spokesperson says the man was driving a stolen pickup truck that rammed a police cruiser trying to block it in a driveway. A passenger in the truck managed to escape. In Vancouver, a man driving a stolen SUV was less seriously hurt after being shot in the arm by a police officer – after he allegedly tried to run the officer down. Two men who fled on foot were arrested a short time later. ------------------------------ End of Cdn-Firearms Digest V6 #547 ********************************** Submissions: mailto:cdn-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Mailing List Commands: mailto:majordomo@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Moderator's e-mail address: mailto:akimoya@cogeco.ca List owner: mailto:owner-cdn-firearms@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca FAQ list: http://www.magma.ca/~asd/cfd-faq1.html and http://teapot.usask.ca/cdn-firearms/Faq/cfd-faq1.html Web Site: http://teapot.usask.ca/cdn-firearms/homepage.html FTP Site: ftp://teapot.usask.ca/pub/cdn-firearms/ CFDigest Archives: http://www.sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca/~ab133/ or put the next command in an e-mail message and mailto:majordomo@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca get cdn-firearms-digest v04.n192 end (192 is the digest issue number and 04 is the volume) To unsubscribe from _all_ the lists, put the next five lines in a message and mailto:majordomo@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca unsubscribe cdn-firearms-digest unsubscribe cdn-firearms-alert unsubscribe cdn-firearms-chat unsubscribe cdn-firearms end (To subscribe, use "subscribe" instead of "unsubscribe".) 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