From: owner-can-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca (Cdn-Firearms Digest) To: cdn-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Subject: Cdn-Firearms Digest V6 #563 Reply-To: cdn-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Sender: owner-can-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Errors-To: owner-can-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Precedence: normal Cdn-Firearms Digest Saturday, October 11 2003 Volume 06 : Number 563 In this issue: Re: rocks BC hunter charged with unauthorized possesion ofa firearm and father Incoming Ont. premier vague on balancing books Ruthless Robbers Rock on hot seat over free family holiday High noon on the range Re: BC Firearms License Re: rifle practice in NS Hunt one another, leave animals alone Re: BC Firearms License RE: Wildlife author killed, eaten by bears he loved RE: BC Firearms License Ghost Rings on a Win Defender 1300 RE: BC Firearms License Re: BC hunter charged with unauthorized possesion ofa firearm and Re: BC Firearms License Column: Here's hoping Martin's actions clear up his shortage of details ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 07:49:54 -0600 (CST) From: B Farion Subject: Re: rocks >From: "Yannis Marine" >Subject: Re: rocks > >Synthetic "Commcool plus" it will be your best choice. >It will not rust steel as quickly but it will stain if it stays for long >period of time. > >What quantity do you need. I can ask my supplier. >I use that coolant for my machines in the machineshop. >Why don't you use plain fresh water and wipe your blade afterwards? > >Yanni >Take your boaters exam >online at >www.yannismarine.ca Hi; Friend who is a machinist recomended it. Bought some at Pricess Auto. Worked but I did not have any idea how to mix it. Got thrown out by blade anyway. Plain water and rock dust make pretty good cement. Had a small saw before. Had to be cleaned after use. But will try another batch. Am at age when I give up easily! Cheers Bill (;-) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 07:52:19 -0600 (CST) From: "Al Springer" Subject: BC hunter charged with unauthorized possesion ofa firearm and father BC hunter charged with unauthorized possesion ofa firearm and father charged with weapons trafficking A 21 year old Kelowna man without a POL or Pal has been charged with unauthorized possesion of a firearm, and his father who loaned him the rifle to go hunting has been charged with CC 99/1 weapons trafficking. The gun was registered to the father who had given the son permission to use it. Returning from hunting the young man was stopped at a game check where an RCMP officer was present. The officer reached into the mans truck without permission and took the rifle off the seat and took it to his car and placed it on the hood with some other rifles. When the young man asked him what he was doing, the officer replyed he was going to check to see if the gun was registered.Then he asked if the gun was his and he replyed "it's my fathers and mine".The gun is registered to his father. At that point the officer siezed the gun and charged him with unauthorized possesion of a firearm. The officer then met with the father and asked him if he had given his son permissin to use the gun and he told him that his had an under standing with him for years about the gun's use. At that point he charged me with CC 99/1 weapons trafficking. The father told him he thought that was rather extreme and the officer asked why he should give him a break, and that if he did he would have to give every Hell's Angel a break. Al Springer ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 07:52:49 -0600 (CST) From: Bruce Mills Subject: Incoming Ont. premier vague on balancing books http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/1065810461266_61219661///?hub=Canada Incoming Ont. premier vague on balancing books Canadian Press OTTAWA — Dalton McGuinty, Ontario's incoming Liberal premier, says he's committed to balancing the provincial books, but won't even guess how long it may take to cover what he says is a significant deficit left by the departing Conservative government. "I'm not going to speculate on the size, I'm not going to speculate on how long it's going to take us to get out of the Tory deficit," he said after a brief speech to high school students. "My commitment is to balancing our budget." He wouldn't answer when asked if next year's budget will be in the red. Asked what he meant by a "significant" deficit, he paused. "I mean it's not insignificant." Estimates of the present deficit vary from $2 billion to $4.5 billion, he said. He wants a firm figure and has asked Erik Peters, the former provincial auditor, to examine the province's books and end speculation about the size of the deficit. He said previously he wouldn't run a budget in the red. McGuinty also promised to improve relations with the federal government. The time for confrontation is over, he said. He said he wants to work co-operatively. He's already had a teleconference with the other premiers and plans to meet Paul Martin, the expected successor to Prime Minister Jean Chretien, in Regina before the Grey Cup game next month. The Liberal leader returned to his alma mater, St. Patrick's High School, to a whistling, foot-stomping, cheering welcome from several hundred students crammed into an auditorium. McGuinty, who attended the school in the 1970s, donned a green school sweater to laughter and applause. He told the teens that he wants to challenge them, to involve them in the life of the province. "I'm asking you to dream," he said. "I'm asking you to dream big." He repeated campaign promises, saying he'll freeze tuition payments to make it easier for them to continue their education and raise the dropout age to 18 from 16 to encourage students to stay in school. He promised, again, to double the number of apprenticeship programs, saying there are those for whom the classroom just isn't the answer. He disappointed one questioner when he said he doesn't plan to change the phased-in process by which beginning drivers get their licences. He also said he's not planning to cut class sizes in high schools, although he's reduce it for kindergarten through Grade 3. He urged students to get involved in their communities, even to get into politics. "I want you to rock the boat," he said. "Don't tip the damn thing over, but you've got to rock it." ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 07:53:13 -0600 (CST) From: Bruce Mills Subject: Ruthless Robbers http://www.pulse24.com/News/Top_Story/20031010-009/page.asp Ruthless Robbers October 10, 2003 One was disguised in the distinctive brown uniform of a U.P.S. employee. But the French-speaking men who entered a jewelry store at Sherway Gardens just after 9am Friday weren’t there to deliver. Instead, they were there to take. And their actions left the owner in surgery with a bullet wound. The well planned heist began just after the store opened for business, with the first suspect even going so far as learn the name of the employee to whom he was making the fake delivery. But after grabbing a bag believed filled with jewels or cash, things went wrong. “They pulled a handgun and robbed the store,” explains Detective Sgt. Wilf Townley. “They were pursued by the owner of the store, and as they were going out the door, they turned and fired a shot in his direction.” The owner was hit in the leg, but his injuries aren’t life-threatening. Witnesses couldn’t believe what they were seeing. “We just heard a bang and … saw the two suspects coming out,” recalls one shopper. “They had a gun and a duffel bag. We were going to chase them … and try to get their licence plate number, but then the gun registered in my head and I just figured that wouldn't be a good idea.” The pair escaped, but not sight unseen. It’s believed they were captured on video surveillance, and police are reviewing those tapes. They’re also on the prowl for the suspected getaway vehicle, now said to be a silver Honda. It was last seen speeding away towards the Queensway. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 07:53:43 -0600 (CST) From: Bruce Mills Subject: Rock on hot seat over free family holiday http://www.cbc.ca/stories/2003/10/10/rockconflict031010 Rock on hot seat over free family holiday Last Updated Fri, 10 Oct 2003 22:46:31 OTTAWA - There are new charges of conflict of interest against a Liberal cabinet minister. This time Allan Rock is under attack because of a family vacation. The Irving family of New Brunswick provided the hospitality. Now Canadian Alliance MP Jason Kenney wants to know "what sort of disciplinary action will the industry minister face?" In the summer of 2001, when Rock was health minister, he was a guest at a luxurious fishing retreat, flown in with his family on a private Irving jet, the entire vacation at the Irving family's expense. Defence Minister John McCallum and New Brunswick MP Dominic LeBlanc, the defence minister's parliamentary secretary, were also among the Liberal politicians who flew on the Irving corporate jet. But the Opposition has zeroed in on Rock who as industry minister has major dealings with the Irving companies. The federal conflict of interest code forbids cabinet ministers from accepting gifts over $200. Rock never bothered to clear the trip with the federal ethics counsellor, Howard Wilson "I was minister of health at the time," Rock told reporters on Friday. "It didn't occur to me. But ... after I became minister of industry I did speak to him (Wilson) and told him in detail about the trip." The Opposition didn't accept the explanation and wanted to know why Rock broke the rules. Wilson told CBC News had he known about Rock's trip beforehand he would have "advised against it." But Wilson also said the whole thing "an oversight" on Rock's part. To avoid potential conflicts as industry minister, Wilson advised Rock to withdraw from any issue that related to the direct corporate interest of the Irvings. Rock insists he has followed that advice, "to the letter." "I just do not believe that Allan Rock could have, nor that he did, absent himself from everything that would have touched the Irving company," said Duff Conacher of Democracy Watch. That's because the Irvings, own many enterprises; with interests in everything from oil and gas, to shipbuilding, to agriculture, to forestry. Kenney also slammed Wilson, calling his pronouncements a "national joke." Written by CBC News Online staff ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 07:54:32 -0600 (CST) From: wrpa Subject: High noon on the range Winnipeg Free Press - Saturday, October 11th, 2003 HIGH NOON ON THE RANGE Carolin Vesely CALAMITY Jane draws her six-shooters, ornerier than a cornered cat. She just saw the Steel Gang coming out of the "bank" here on Miller Road in West St. Paul carrying money bags. "Freeze," Calamity yells, taking aim at Yellow Belly as a gunfight erupts in a cloud of black powder on the outskirts of Winnipeg. It's the cowboy way -- every second Sunday at the Winnipeg Revolver & Pistol Association's shooting range, where a group of Manitoba gun enthusiasts step out of their urban lives and back into the Old West for a few hours of Cowboy Action Shooting. "I like to wear leather and spurs," says Hog Leg 45, who came out on this sunny autumn morning with his gunslinging spouse, Shotgun Chelle. Cowboy Action Shooting, also known as Western Action Shooting or Single-Action Shooting, is a light-hearted but competitive sport that sees city slickers don cowboy -- and cowgirl -- duds to re-enact frontier-town shootouts with old-fashioned firearms. Here in West St. Paul, gunslingers have even been known to ride shotgun on wooden hobby horses. "I think what appeals to people is the spirit of the game," says Calamity, who is known as Dianne Best when she is out of her buckskin, braids and Stetson. "The Cowboy Code -- honour, integrity, being helpful. It's kind of like the Boy Scouts motto." Best, a black-powder shooter who competes in the U.S., brought the sport to Manitoba last April and is its president and marshal, meaning she's the one who creates the scenarios and scripts for those down-and-dirty gunfights. "I like to go for the bad-guy persona," says Dirty Stinkin' Dave Faulkner, clad in black and sporting a villainous moustache. Faulkner says he caught the bug in 1994 when he bought his first "cowboy gun." Not only do shooters have to adopt an alias and dress the part - -- minimum jeans and a cowboy hat -- their firesticks must be true to the era. Pistols, rifles and shotguns -- 19th-century reproductions -- must be single-action, meaning the gun must be cocked before every shot. CAS, introduced to Ontario in 1985, is reportedly taking off like a bullet in Western Canada. Some 60,000 participants worldwide are registered in the Single Action Shooting Society. Barry Pearson, a.k.a. Sgt. Fearsome, is a relative CAS veteran who started getting "duded up" for muzzle-loaded shooting competitions in Grand Forks four years ago. "My wife says, 'You're 63 years old and you're playing Mr. Dressup," says Pearson, whose usual getup is an early version of the RCMP uniform. Cowboy Action Shooting may sound like fun and games, but we're talking about real guns and real bullets here. There's no horseplay when it comes to safety. No Quick-Draw McGraw. Shooters must have a witness beside them at the loading and unloading tables. Six-shooters get only five bullets, meaning the gun's cylinder is closed on an empty chamber. "You must draw your revolver and keep your finger off the trigger," says Pearson, who is also president of the Winnipeg Revolver & Pistol Association. "You can't cock it until it's pointed at the target." And if you think you'll get to unload both barrels on a flesh-and-blood bad guy, get out of Dodge now. These cowpokes shoot at targets, not each other. Although the international symbol of single-action shooting is a crouching, gun-totin' villain, he's made of steel. You'll know you've filled him full of lead when you hear the "ding." But enough jawin'. To find out more about Cowboy Action Shooting in Manitoba, call 866-2983 or check the Web at www.mts.net/~wrpa/Cowboy-Action.html carolin.vesely@freepress.mb.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 07:55:34 -0600 (CST) From: John Fowler Subject: Re: BC Firearms License >From: paul chicoine > > >Ontario has an "outdoors card" which must be renewed every so many years >which to my experience is another shaft since the hunter's certificate in >Quebec is for life (just as a PAL should be) I guess folks in Ontario see >some benefit in it. BC, well there is /was this foolish other gun license. >It doesn't work and that knowledge is available for use if some onther >province decides to come up with a similar fool plan. You got that wrong Paul: Ontario's Outdoors Card is actually the resident fishing and/or hunting licence. Big game tags are affixed as required. No Ontario registration card exists or is required (unless our newly-elected Liberal gov't decides otherwise, after they force everyone to store their guns in some warehouse in downtown Toronto. Hunter safety qualification is for life. John T. Fowler Photography for education http://www.magma.ca/~jfowler ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 07:56:10 -0600 (CST) From: JP Poulin Subject: Re: rifle practice in NS On 10/11/2003 02:33 -0500, Rod Regier wrote: > As a side note, I often wonder if the majority of the hunters in the > woods even practice at all from year to year. Given the ratio of gun > club memberships to licensed hunters, and the amount of booking time > available on DNR ranges, there would not seem to be near enough range > time to service all the persons holding hunting licenses. Sounds like a lot of poorly sighted in rifles coupled with bad marksmanship. JP Poulin ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 07:56:53 -0600 (CST) From: "Ed Sieb" Subject: Hunt one another, leave animals alone Montreal Gazette | Saturday » October 11 » 2003 Hunt one another, leave animals alone The Gazette Saturday, October 11, 2003 It's that time of year again when grown men, instead of pulling out a ruler to compare the size of their genitalia, grab their big guns, jump in their big trucks and kill the biggest defenceless animals they can find (Gazette, oct. 3, "Roll out the barrels: Hunters aim to halt sport's decline"). Who will bag the biggest bull this year? Who will kill that big man-eating bear with eight-inch claws? Who will blow Bambi into oblivion with his high-powered semi-automatic rifle? They claim to be "stewards of the forest"; yet most can't differentiate between a maple and an oak tree, and few can spell "deciduous" or "coniferous." Every year, we hear the same stories of hunters getting lost in the bush, accidentally shooting one another, or even shooting themselves. Sadly, it is children who are too often at the wrong end of a hunting accident. The proponents of hunting claim to be "ethical hunters" and to "respect animals," right before shooting a calf in the head in front of its mother. Hunting is barbaric and morally unacceptable. So, hunters: Replace your rifle with a high-resolution digital camera; trade in that ATV for a good pair of hiking boots and a canoe, and if you still can't resist that testosterone-induced urge to shoot, hunt each other and leave the animals alone. David Bertrand Montreal © Copyright 2003 Montreal Gazette ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 07:57:29 -0600 (CST) From: JP Poulin Subject: Re: BC Firearms License On 10/11/2003 02:36 -0500, paul chicoine wrote: > "And then along comes Paul Chicoine, again with the idea that RFOCBC owes > something to whoever shows up. I'm sorry to disappoint you all but I don't > think I was put on the planet to inform every Tom, Dick and Paul about > things they haven't heard about." Must be a Western - Quebec/Ontario thing Paul. You know how the West hates us damn Easteners for allowing the Liberals to reign supreme, so they must take jabs at us to feel superior in some way. Whenever I see this type of resentment, I'm reminded again about why we have C-68. JP Poulin ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 07:58:11 -0600 (CST) From: "Ed Sieb" Subject: RE: Wildlife author killed, eaten by bears he loved Looks like another "Darwin Award" winner to boot. > [...]The fearless former drug addict from Malibu, Calif. > -- who routinely eased up close to bears to chant > "I love you'' in a high-pitched, sing-song voice... What, like Barney, the purple dinsaur? "I love you... you love me..." > A self-proclaimed eco-warrior, he attracted something > of a cult following too. Chuck Bartlebaugh of "Be Bear Aware,'' > a national bear awareness campaign, called Treadwell one of > the leaders of a group of people engaged in "a trend to promote > getting close to bears to show they were not dangerous. [...]" I guess the experiment failed. Oh well... Ed Sieb ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 08:38:42 -0600 (CST) From: "Hayes Holdings" Subject: RE: BC Firearms License > O.K. I give up. I'll provide the information to correct the B.S. that > passes for intelligence on the Digest. <> > There, now is everybody happy that I have pissed away my time on this? > I'll wait for the apologies to start pouring in. > Kevin Two things: One to the general population on the Digest: Quit feeding the troll; they grow when they're fed. Second to Kevin: If your time is so all fired precious and the CFD and CFD subscribers are such a waste of your time... To unsubscribe from _all_ the lists, put the next five lines in a message and mailto:majordomo@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca unsubscribe cdn-firearms-digest unsubscribe cdn-firearms-alert unsubscribe cdn-firearms-chat unsubscribe cdn-firearms end - ---------------------------------------------- Jason Hayes - Principal Hayes Holdings Consulting hh@hayz.ws / www.hayz.ws Blog: www.hayz.ws/weblog/blogger.htm #1936 - 246 Stewart Green SW Calgary, AB, Canada T3H 3C8 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 08:39:13 -0600 (CST) From: Marcel Boudreau Subject: Ghost Rings on a Win Defender 1300 I'm looking for a Canadian source of ghost ring sights for a Winchester Defender 1300. The Ghost rings I've seen on US web sites are all just over that magical $100.00 US value so they would require a US Export permit. Alternately, does anyone out there have any other ideas how to improve the sight on the Defender. I've put a TruGlo bead on a Remington 870 and it is an improvement but not quite what I'm looking for for slugs. Any suggestions welcome. Cheers, Marcel Boudreau ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 08:40:08 -0600 (CST) From: "Hayes Holdings" Subject: RE: BC Firearms License > Must be a Western - Quebec/Ontario thing Paul. You know how the West hates > us damn Easteners for allowing the Liberals to reign supreme, so they must > take jabs at us to feel superior in some way. > > Whenever I see this type of resentment, I'm reminded again about why we > have C-68. > > JP Poulin Let's shelve that idea. Perhaps Kevin has an east vs. west thing going, but that does not entail the remainder of us do. There is a whole lot more to C-68's existence that east vs. west and it has to do with apathy, ignorance, and bigotry on the part of Canadians in general. JP, you can do better than that. - ---------------------------------------------- Jason Hayes - Principal Hayes Holdings Consulting hh@hayz.ws / www.hayz.ws Blog: www.hayz.ws/weblog/blogger.htm #1936 - 246 Stewart Green SW Calgary, AB, Canada T3H 3C8 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 08:56:03 -0600 (CST) From: "Geoff Stokes" Subject: Re: BC hunter charged with unauthorized possesion ofa firearm and So, when is the NFA, Canadian Shooting Sports, BCRFOC...and others going to help defend him. Commie Canada EHH! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 09:39:54 -0600 (CST) From: JP Poulin Subject: Re: BC Firearms License On 10/11/2003 10:40 -0500, Hayes Holdings wrote: > JP, you can do better than that. Sure, but just taking a snipe back, that's all. I like sniping. JP Poulin ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 09:41:22 -0600 (CST) From: "Breitkreuz, Garry - Assistant 1" Subject: Column: Here's hoping Martin's actions clear up his shortage of details PUBLICATION: Calgary Herald DATE: 2003.10.11 EDITION: Final SECTION: News PAGE: A3 COLUMN: Don Martin BYLINE: Don Martin SOURCE: Calgary Herald DATELINE: OTTAWA - -------------------------------------------------------------------------= Here's hoping Martin's actions clear up his shortage of details - -------------------------------------------------------------------------= A Paul Martin visit is starting to spell disaster. Last month, it was a viewing of B.C. forest fire damage. Last week, it was checking out hurricane Juan's forest-upending devastation in Halifax. Now, it's the Alberta mad cow leg of Martin's feel-your-pain tour of Canadian disasters. In his concerted bid to act more prime ministerial than the current occupant of the country's highest office, which wouldn't be hard, Martin hits Alberta on Wednesday for a three-day get-acquainted visit to a province where the Liberal pulse only beats faintly in two Edmonton ridings. He'll give Alberta Liberals a big fundraising star to build their warchest for their many long-shot battles, pay a sympathy call on an Edmonton stockyard emptied in the mad cow aftermath and swing by Premier Ralph Klein's office in Calgary to learn the secrets to a multi-term life from the ultimate political survivor. And, in what is becoming Martin's perfected schtick, he'll continue being more visible as a symbol than vocal in substance. Get used to it, the man himself says. "If I go somewhere in Ontario or drive to Montreal, you don't say, 'Are you going there with a specific message?' As far as I'm concerned, I want the presence of the prime minister in Alberta to be as normal and as usual as the presence of the prime minister in Ontario or Quebec," Martin told me in an interview Friday. "I'm not just going to Alberta during an election campaign or for fundraisers." Sure, visits without a specific message are symbolic fluff, but it's potent fluff. The West has lived through 10 years of Jean Chretien, whose presence was usually confined to party fundraisers padded with a few photo-ops to give the use of government aircraft optical legitimacy. And Chretien, lest we forget, gave the southern half of Alberta a miss during the 2000 campaign. In what is almost a Martin mantra, the Montreal MP and former finance minister still insists he'll measure his first-term electoral success by gains in Alberta. He does, in fact, predict breakthroughs in Calgary, where no Liberal has survived an election since Pierre Trudeau was a rookie. "We're seeing an enormous amount of interest in virtually every riding," Martin says. Colour me skeptical. But precisely how he'll wow the West, well, that's the problem. The immediate goal, says Martin, is listen, learn and "just be me." "I'm not going out there to impose the solution to Western Canada's relations with Ottawa. We've got a problem and let's admit it and work on it together." OK, I'll bite. For instance? "BSE is one of the major national issues in the country. If you're going to Alberta, you should go to one of the major problems Albertans feel in their bones." So far, so good. It sure outperforms Chretien, who has yet to visit an affected ranch. But what will Martin pledge as compensation to ranchers, truckers and meatpackers hard hit by the U.S. border closure to beef? "Governments have a responsibility to help in times of transition or change or those being singled out for reasons beyond their control. We must focus on the people most hurt. Those are the ranchers. I think it's something we've got to continuously monitor because it's got to be rebuilt." Hmmm. My friends in the industry would probably feel their bovine-discharged fertilizer detectors twitching at that non-specific answer. We'll move on. Martin gives the Canada West Foundation's recent report on solutions to western alienation an A-plus grade. "I agree with all of the objectives and most of the mechanisms put forward." So, how about its recommendation for Senate reform? Uh, not so fast. "I very, very much support Senate reform and I'm not going to close my door on any way of getting there," he says. "But I do think you have to be quite skeptical about piecemeal steps. I don't want to see token reform." Will he clear the air over the Kyoto Accord's implementation? Yes. Details to follow the election. "There should've been a plan. You can't accomplish what you want to do unless you set out how you want to do it. That's going to be one of our priorities." On runaway expense accounts in Ottawa and wanton waste of money on a gun registry that doesn't accurately register weapons, Martin vows to attack the problem with regular line-by-line scrutiny of departmental budgets. "The perspective that a department is going to be reviewed on a regular basis by an outside group certainly focuses the mind," he warns. It is probably obvious from reading the above that Martin will not bowl over straight-shooting Albertans or anybody else with the precise details of his election platform. Perhaps playing safe is understandable. After all, he's only 99.9 per cent sure of winning the leadership in mid-November and 98 per cent certain to clinch another Liberal government mandate. For now, Martin is a man of words. Action will have to wait for the victory parade. Don Martin is the Herald's Ottawa Bureau Chief dmartin@cns.canwest.com ------------------------------ End of Cdn-Firearms Digest V6 #563 ********************************** Submissions: mailto:cdn-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Mailing List Commands: mailto:majordomo@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Moderator's e-mail address: mailto:akimoya@cogeco.ca List owner: mailto:owner-cdn-firearms@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca FAQ list: http://www.magma.ca/~asd/cfd-faq1.html and http://teapot.usask.ca/cdn-firearms/Faq/cfd-faq1.html Web Site: http://teapot.usask.ca/cdn-firearms/homepage.html FTP Site: ftp://teapot.usask.ca/pub/cdn-firearms/ CFDigest Archives: http://www.sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca/~ab133/ or put the next command in an e-mail message and mailto:majordomo@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca get cdn-firearms-digest v04.n192 end (192 is the digest issue number and 04 is the volume) To unsubscribe from _all_ the lists, put the next five lines in a message and mailto:majordomo@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca unsubscribe cdn-firearms-digest unsubscribe cdn-firearms-alert unsubscribe cdn-firearms-chat unsubscribe cdn-firearms end (To subscribe, use "subscribe" instead of "unsubscribe".) 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