From: owner-can-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca (Cdn-Firearms Digest) To: cdn-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Subject: Cdn-Firearms Digest V6 #580 Reply-To: cdn-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Sender: owner-can-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Errors-To: owner-can-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Precedence: normal Cdn-Firearms Digest Wednesday, October 15 2003 Volume 06 : Number 580 In this issue: 30 convictions in 27 years and has been banned from possessing firearms Man charged with attempted murder flees: Column: Property rights are being eroded by the charter, court SOLDIER FACES GUN CHARGES Punishment for the crime Re: Notice of Termination of RFC-Ottawa Office Project Re: powder box More on Blackpowder vs Smokeless in Era Arms Re: Court Appearance Re-Explosives Box WEAPONS CACHE TO BE RETURNED computer operating system question hi powered magazines ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:17:49 -0600 (CST) From: "Breitkreuz, Garry - Assistant 1" Subject: 30 convictions in 27 years and has been banned from possessing firearms PUBLICATION: National Post DATE: 2003.10.15 EDITION: Toronto SECTION: Canada PAGE: A8 BYLINE: Adrian Humphreys SOURCE: National Post DATELINE: TORONTO ILLUSTRATION: Black & White Photo: Ian MacAlpine, The Canadian Press /Eddie Melo, left, trades punches with Lancelot Inniss during a bout in Montreal on July 7, 1981. Melo was shot dead in Mississauga in 2001. NOTE: ahumphreys@nationalpost.com - -------------------------------------------------------------------------= Third arrest made in slaying of boxer who was Mafia enforcer: Eddie 'Hurricane' Melo - -------------------------------------------------------------------------= TORONTO - A career criminal, who was once told by a judge that he was "in the major leagues" of crime, is the third man arrested in the slaying of Eddie "Hurricane" Melo, a former Canadian boxing champion and high-profile Mafia enforcer. Delio Pereira, 50, of Fennings Street, Toronto, joins the owner of an Ontario trailer park and a violent inmate on a pass from a correctional centre as being an accused in the unfolding conspiracy to murder Mr. Melo. Mr. Melo was shot dead by Charles Gagne, 30, in a parking lot outside a Mississauga cafe on April 6, 2001, along with his cousin, Joao "Johnny" Pavao. Gagne, who was on a temporary pass from the Portsmouth Community Correctional Centre in Kingston, was arrested in July and pled guilty last month to two counts of second-degree murder in an agreement with authorities that will see him testifying at future proceedings. Although sentenced to life in prison, the plea allows Gagne to apply for parole in 12 years. Shortly before his plea, police arrested Manuel "Mike" DaSilva, 52, in Huntsville, Ont., at the Deer Lake Trailer Park, which he owns and operates, police said. He is charged with two counts of first-degree murder. Police allege Mr. DaSilva hired Gagne to kill Mr. Melo. Mr. Pereira was arrested yesterday in Toronto. He is charged with being an accessory to murder and conspiracy to commit murder. "Investigation further revealed that a third person was involved with planning the murder," said Constable Todd Moore of Peel Regional Police. Mr. Pereira knew both Gagne and Mr. DaSilva, he said. In the 1970s, Mr. DaSilva accused Julian Fantino, then a sergeant but now Toronto's chief of police, and other officers of forcing a false confession out of him. In court in support of his allegations -- which were dismissed by a jury - -- he testified Sgt. Fantino said to him during an arrest, "If you were Pereira, I'd put a bullet in your head," an apparent reference to Delio Pereira, Mr. DaSilva said in court. Mr. Pereira has a long criminal history and an apparent fondness for firearms. He has had 30 convictions in 27 years and has been banned from possessing firearms three times. At a sentencing for a previous charge, Mr. Justice John Hamilton told Mr. Pereira: "You're in the major leagues" of criminality. He also said he "never learns from his sentences." Mr. Melo was a brilliant boxer who turned professional at the age of 17 and later took the Canadian middleweight championship title. He became involved with the Cotroni crime family of Montreal and used his muscle on behalf of the Mafia clan. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:20:40 -0600 (CST) From: "Breitkreuz, Garry - Assistant 1" Subject: Man charged with attempted murder flees: PUBLICATION: The Ottawa Citizen DATE: 2003.10.15 EDITION: Final SECTION: City PAGE: B5 BYLINE: Jake Rupert SOURCE: The Ottawa Citizen - -------------------------------------------------------------------------= Man charged with attempted murder flees: Case linked to 8 accused in fun park killing - -------------------------------------------------------------------------= A man accused of attempted murder in connection with a killing at the Midway Family Fun Park last month has fled the country. Michael Estephan, who is charged with attempting to murder the men accused of killing his friend, Charbel Chaar, was granted bail last week. Mr. Estephan, 27, was scheduled to appear in court yesterday after the Crown filed an appeal of his release. But when his case was called, his defence lawyer, Richard Addelman, told the judge that his client wasn't in Canada anymore. "I was advised this weekend by his family that Mr. Estephan has left the country," Mr. Addelman said. Assistant Crown attorney Donna Eastwood immediately asked for a bench warrant to be issued for Mr. Estephan's arrest. The judge agreed to the request. Mr. Addelman said he didn't know if his client had any intention of coming back to Canada to face charges or testify in the cases against the eight men accused of first-degree murder in his friend's death. He said he was disappointed by the turn of events, because he feels his client has a good defence to the charges against him. But with four of the eight men accused of murder also released on bail, Mr. Addelman said other factors might have contributed to Mr. Estephan's decision to flee. Mr. Addelman wouldn't say where his client may have gone. The accused's family is from Lebanon. Mr. Estephan was released from jail last Monday -- on $5,000 cash, $10,000 bond and several conditions, including not to leave the jurisdiction except for work purposes -- after a contested bail hearing during which the Crown argued he should remain in jail awaiting the outcome of his charges. Mr. Estephan also faces five counts of discharging a firearm and one count of possessing a restricted weapon, stemming from events at the family fun park on Sept. 4, the day Mr. Chaar was killed. Mr. Estephan is accused of trying to kill some of the men charged with the death of his friend by shooting at them during the fatal attack. At his bail hearing, Ontario Superior Court Justice James Chadwick said he was satisfied the evidence showed Mr. Estephan was coming to the aid of Mr. Chaar and would, therefore, have defences to the charges against him. The judge said the public's confidence in the justice system could be undermined if it knew a man in these circumstances was being held in jail. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:22:35 -0600 (CST) From: "Breitkreuz, Garry - Assistant 1" Subject: Column: Property rights are being eroded by the charter, court PUBLICATION: Edmonton Journal DATE: 2003.10.15 EDITION: Final SECTION: Ideas PAGE: A19 COLUMN: Lorne Gunter BYLINE: Lorne Gunter SOURCE: The Edmonton Journal - -------------------------------------------------------------------------= Property rights are being eroded by the charter, court decisions: Recent ruling allows expropriation of interest owed to veterans, widows - -------------------------------------------------------------------------= Both of the following statements were made within the past three months. One is from Canada, the other from Communist China. Which is which? A) "The government has the right to expropriate property, even without compensation, if it has made its intention clear." B) "We should protect all kinds of property ownership -- including private ownership." Of course, this is a trick question. The first quotation is from the Supreme Court of Canada's July decision in the Arthurson vs. Canada case, in which the justices agreed with the federal government that Ottawa could rob mentally disabled war veterans and their widows of hundreds of millions of dollars they were owed in interest on their pensions simply by passing an expropriation law that was "clear and unambiguous." In essence, due process has been served, the court ruled, if Ottawa merely makes its intent to rob emphatic. This is the equivalent of arguing that the difference between rape and lovemaking is the rapist's clear declaration beforehand that his actions will constitute making love. In fairness to the court, it has been a developing precept in Canadian law since at least the 1920s that expropriation without compensation is permissible provided the expropriating government includes in its expropriation legislation a clause declaring its unwillingness to pay compensation to its victims. It may be abhorrent and have nothing whatever to do with justice, but the court's Arthurson decision really was just the logical endpoint of a legal evolution (perversion?) begun nearly 80 years ago. The second quotation was uttered this weekend by Chinese President Hu Jintao during the 16th gathering of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of China. Although that gathering concluded Tuesday without a formal declaration that private property rights have been added to China's constitution -- the Central Committee's communique referred only to an unspecified "constitutional change" -- it is widely believed that China's most senior and powerful Communists voted to reverse their 82-year-old declaration that state ownership of all property was "inviolable." If, indeed, the businesses and farm plots of China's entrepreneurs and landowners are now constitutionally protected, the Chinese have one up on Canadian entrepreneurs and landowners. In Canada, there are no constitutional safeguards for private property, and increasingly few common law protections, either. The Chinese are not more free than we are, nor would I prefer their political and justice systems to ours. Canadian dissidents do not disappear in the middle of the night; their Chinese counterparts still do. And the Chinese constitution already contains dozens of human rights not honoured by the nation's rulers. Even if that constitution now also claims to protect private property, it remains to be seen whether that protection has any real-world force. Still, intellectually, the Chinese are moving in the right direction; we are not. China is seeking to expand its private sphere. Politicians and technocrats here are constantly looking for ways to contract ours. Property rights are disdained by Canada's ruling establishment, both in Parliament and the courts, at the municipal and provincial levels almost as much as at the federal. Property rights are an impediment to all the do-gooding our politicians are up to. How can they be expected to protect the environment, ensure worker safety, control guns, regulate healthy behaviour, redistribute incomes "fairly," advance human rights in hiring and renting, and so on, and so on, and so on, if Canadians have the right to own and enjoy their property as Canadians see fit? Sure, sure, Canadians can own property, but they have to permit their betters -- i.e. the government, lobbyists, editorialists, special interests, etc. -- to have first say on what they may erect and produce on their land, what conditions and safety equipment must exist there, who they must associate with there, and what is to be done with the proceeds they earn there. After that, of course, the property is theirs to use as they please -- that is, until their betters decide to expropriate it without compensation. Otherwise, the property is theirs, freehold. In 1999, in deciding who owned the crops produced on Canadians' farms -- the farmer or Ottawa -- the Manitoba Court of Appeal decided in Ottawa's favour and decreed: "The right to 'enjoyment of property' is not a constitutionally protected, fundamental part of Canadian society." If property rights were in place and enforced, why that might lead to -- gasp -- limited government. And since so many Canadians are convinced that government represents unlimited good ... well, the thought of limiting goodness is just too much to bear. During the 1980 and 1981 constitutional debates on repatriation and the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, protection of property rights was discussed by Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau and the premiers. According to former Alberta premier Peter Lougheed in an interview with the editors of Alberta in the Twentieth Century, "this was a very short, 10-minute bargaining session." Property rights were on and off the table in the blink of an eye because the provinces objected to the charter limiting their right to expropriate. In China, the Communists are erecting barriers to unbridled state action. They may not be strong barriers. We don't know yet. But at least they are erecting barriers. Here in Canada, in the name of freedom and fairness, we are intent on tearing them down. lgunter@thejournal.canwest.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:23:16 -0600 (CST) From: "Breitkreuz, Garry - Assistant 1" Subject: SOLDIER FACES GUN CHARGES PUBLICATION: The Edmonton Sun DATE: 2003.10.15 EDITION: Final SECTION: News PAGE: 12 - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- SOLDIER FACES GUN CHARGES - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- A soldier at Edmonton Garrison faces numerous weapons charges after police were called to an apparent road rage incident and later seized three guns. A citizen called cops just before 9:30 p.m. Monday after seeing a driver in a Ford Expedition hold up a handgun near 160 Avenue and 82 Street. Police were given the licence-plate number and traced the vehicle to a home at Griesbach. With the help of military police, a suspect was soon tracked down. Officers searched a truck and seized a Glock Model 22 .40-calibre handgun, a loaded AR 15 rifle, and a 12-gauge shotgun. Gregory Heuser, 43, is charged with three counts of unsafe storage. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:24:06 -0600 (CST) From: rae baker Subject: Punishment for the crime Rather than spend large quantities of money , would it not be advisable to remove 2 1/2 to 3 inches of penis from sex offenders and rapists, and for many of the others the removal of hands from the convicted criminal, and no social remuneration. They would not need housing and what ever they claim for their support. and then capital punishment would work to all our benifit. Rae ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:24:51 -0600 (CST) From: paul chicoine Subject: Re: Notice of Termination of RFC-Ottawa Office Project Well now, when the rank and file of the RFC moans and complains they have the rank and file of the RFC to blame. As for the trustees, a very deep thanks for all your hard work. __________ Paul Chicoine Non Assumsit Contract : All Rights Reserved : Without Prejudice __________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:25:32 -0600 (CST) From: paul chicoine Subject: Re: powder box All this talk of boxes brings to mind the old style wooden ammo boxes or the latest retro fad of ammo boxes sold for outfits like Winchester and Remington. Seems to be a good model, build to your size of choice. __________ Paul Chicoine Non Assumsit Contract : All Rights Reserved : Without Prejudice __________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:28:02 -0600 (CST) From: "Todd Birch" Subject: More on Blackpowder vs Smokeless in Era Arms Whie it is true that some large volume blackpowder cases perform well with smokeless powders, there is good reason not to. Aside from questionable steels in the original arms, the designs themselves were not intended for the abrupt pressure curves of modern smokeless powders. This can apply to the smaller actions of pistol sized ammo as well as the big bore 'buffler guns'. "19th Century Gun Steel. We could find you the technical reasons for these phenomena but why bother? (He's referring to guns coming apart, actions stretching, etc.) It isn't often that two experts can agree on the same cause anyway, especially on this subject. The bottom line will always be that by our standards today, the steel in those guns was lousey. Nobody, not even the vaunted gun companies, knew a great deal about the internal structure nor the manufacture of homogenous steel alloys right up to around WW1. As a result, in quick and dirty layman's terms, the steel used in the manufacture of these lovely old guns is just not very high quality. In my experience, old gun steels, no matter how wonderful the quality of the craftsmanship that is displayed in the gun itself, cannot withstand a continued diet of smokeless powder cartridges without sustaining some sort of damage. We find it interesting that these same blackpowder era, metallic cartridge revolvers will shoot for years, digesting thousands of rounds of ammunition with little or no trouble, and with nary a sign of damage when they have been fed an exclusive diet of blackpowder ammunition. What blackpowder era firearms can be particularly vulnerable to damage by smokeless ammunition? Actually, anything made in the blackpowder era is at least somewhat vlnerable to be damaged by smokeless powder ammunition. Some arms are much stronger than others; Colt single actions for instance, seem to stand up well to the effects of smokeless powder, although we have seen some that have been damaged and a few that have been ruined." >From "Gunsmithing Guns of the Old West" - David R. Chicoine. He goes on to specifically name various makes and designs one ought to be wary of using smokeless powder ammunition in. In his opinion, the 'safe' designs "are based on tough John Browning designs, which like a good Mauser '98, derives it's strength not from steel quality but because of it's excellent, overabundant design." Note that he specifies the Mauser 1898 with it's twin forward locking lugs, gas escape system, etc. In the case of earlier Mauser designs, it wasn't the steel that was suspect, but the design. It may be a lot more convenient to dump a load of smokeless powder into a blackpowder case, but something is lost in the process. At the very last, an appreciation for the skills and dedication of old time riflemen., whose knowledge we are relearning constantly. Todd Birch ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:28:06 -0600 (CST) From: Robert LaCasse Subject: Re: Court Appearance That is just an act of theft, man these "higher orders" are a stonewall for "we lost it". I'm still looking for a BB pistol and CFRSC copies and other papers from a gungrab by the VPD 3 years ago. I Contacted RCMP, Lawyer, Crowns, Judges, Sheriffs, Court Registries, Court Clerks, VPD "Tag" Property room, arresting cops, and others...They know nothing, someone must'a stole it I suggested, they said could be, there is no Comp entry here! What I did get back real quick is my .22 MKII & 12/6 rifling cable gored by some cretin or "troglodyke" type of crudeness! So now U have a good idea why cops are well liked on the planet, of course kids who call 911 to nail a cop must be from the stone age with that one, hell I even seen it on TV a few times! I gotta be dealing with these birds because of the FAC-->PAL restriction. There's a few judges at my shooting range, maybe I'll bring that subject up too next time we chat, although they hate to mix business with pleasure, they have this oath to upkeep! What about the Serve and Protect us oath the social workers make when they are GIVEN a gun? When does that start to happen with the gun grabbers trying to make a $400 court appearance buck, and a name for being active! Bob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:30:04 -0600 (CST) From: Bill Subject: Re-Explosives Box >Bad idea. if the box is too strong , it can turn into a bomb in the >event of a fire. if it;s built with common nails, it wont allow >pressure to build up. Any magazine containing explosives must be vented in some way,shape or form. Permanent magazines have bulletproof vents and are made of steel lined with wood.. For the storage of a 'propellant' There would be no pressure build-up beyond that caused by the actual powder container. .. Hell, just hammer/screw/glue a wooden box with a lock and hinge. It's not as if your storing blasting gel/det-cord, and anfo! Just about any wooden box will satisfy any cop that isn't after your hide. If a cop is out to get you, it won't make any difference how your storing your powder. The charges will still be laid, and it will be up to you to defend yourself. Innocent until proven Guilty is only a myth.. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:46:11 -0600 (CST) From: "Trigger Mortis" Subject: WEAPONS CACHE TO BE RETURNED >Adam Christopher Morash, 32, was arrested on Feb. 11, 2003, after an RCMP >search of his home turned up a hidden room filled with military equipment, >high-powered magazines and at least 152 firearms. ============ Wow, "high-powered magazines"!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now, would that be metallic or plastic magazines, which hold ammunition for a firearm, or would that be something to read, which has incredibly sophisticated articles. Alan Harper alan__harper@cogeco.ca SI VIS PACEM, PARA BELLUM ************************* ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:48:13 -0600 (CST) From: "Trigger Mortis" Subject: computer operating system question I put together a system for my wife, with a hard drive of 12.5 Gb. I have created a partition of 5 Gb, on which I installed Win98SE. There is still a 5 Gb space, which I don't know how to partition. What I did was create a 10 Gb partition and then a remainder extended DOS partition for the 2.5 Gb. Then, I deleted the 10 Gb partition. Then, I created a 5 Gb DOS, FAT32 partition for win98. That leaves the unpartitioned space of 5 Gb in between the 5 Gb partition and the 2.5 extended DOS partition. She has an operating system and software which must fit on a partition of, no greater than 3 Gb. It is OS2. 3 Gb sounds like a pretty oddball number to me, but whatever. The problem is that I have installed the English language OS on the 5 Gb partition. What she wants, in addition to win98, is her operating system, in OS2, which is all in Japanese. Does anyone know about OS2? I can't install the stuff for her. I don't speak Japanese. I can make any size partition for her out of the remaining 5 Gb. I can make it less than 3 Gb, no problem, but what kind of format is it? FAT16? FAT32? NTFS? Or something entirely different? I want to set up the partitions and format them correctly, so that she can proceed to install her Japanese OS and software. Any help would be much appreciated. Alan Harper alan__harper@cogeco.ca SI VIS PACEM, PARA BELLUM ************************* ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:54:25 -0600 (CST) From: "ross" Subject: hi powered magazines WEAPONS CACHE TO BE RETURNED A provincial securities officer will have a large cache of firearms returned to him after he pleaded guilty yesterday to two weapons-related charges. Adam Christopher Morash, 32, was arrested on Feb. 11, 2003, after an RCMP search of his home turned up a hidden room filled with military equipment, high-powered magazines and at least 152 firearms. WOWWEE GOLLY GEE WILLICKERS..a room full of military equipment and hi powered magazines. probably the playboy or Hustler type no doubt. as any good canadian knows that magazines are not really hi powered.at least not the canadian publications Couple them with the gear, and we have a dangerous situation where the user might get off a shot too quickly and make a mess of the area. The Authorities would have to be called to lay charges under the "prohibited militaryt gear and magazine combination act". Of course they would have to send ion the crime scene boys or girls to dust the area and retreive any evidence (yech!). When the poor bastard gets to court he ort she will be found guilty for possession of military gear in the same place as hi-powered magazines. His sentence will be to sell off the gear and cancel the subscription to Hustler ------------------------------ End of Cdn-Firearms Digest V6 #580 ********************************** Submissions: mailto:cdn-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Mailing List Commands: mailto:majordomo@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Moderator's e-mail address: mailto:akimoya@cogeco.ca List owner: mailto:owner-cdn-firearms@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca FAQ list: http://www.magma.ca/~asd/cfd-faq1.html and http://teapot.usask.ca/cdn-firearms/Faq/cfd-faq1.html Web Site: http://teapot.usask.ca/cdn-firearms/homepage.html FTP Site: ftp://teapot.usask.ca/pub/cdn-firearms/ CFDigest Archives: http://www.sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca/~ab133/ or put the next command in an e-mail message and mailto:majordomo@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca get cdn-firearms-digest v04.n192 end (192 is the digest issue number and 04 is the volume) To unsubscribe from _all_ the lists, put the next five lines in a message and mailto:majordomo@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca unsubscribe cdn-firearms-digest unsubscribe cdn-firearms-alert unsubscribe cdn-firearms-chat unsubscribe cdn-firearms end (To subscribe, use "subscribe" instead of "unsubscribe".) 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