From: owner-can-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca (Cdn-Firearms Digest) To: cdn-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Subject: Cdn-Firearms Digest V6 #784 Reply-To: cdn-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Sender: owner-can-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Errors-To: owner-can-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Precedence: normal Cdn-Firearms Digest Wednesday, December 31 2003 Volume 06 : Number 784 In this issue: Take arrested officer off payroll: Police Chief Bill Closs Letter: Guns in T.O. It's fowl play: Chicken stolen, trucker trussed up Martin's office 'puzzled' that Liberals part of drug probe: Re: Martin's office 'puzzled' that Liberals part of drug probe: Salute three pillars Re: Sun Rational And Fair On Firearms Control CANADA GAZETTE - Order Amending the Order Declaring an Amnesty Period Laughs and chuckles... Toronto Sun - Gun crime up 35% ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 10:05:16 -0600 (CST) From: "Breitkreuz, Garry - Assistant 1" Subject: Take arrested officer off payroll: Police Chief Bill Closs PUBLICATION: The Kingston Whig-Standard DATE: 2003.12.31 EDITION: Final SECTION: Community PAGE: 1 / Front BYLINE: Sue Yanagisawa SOURCE: The Kingston Whig-Standard ILLUSTRATION: Colour Photo: CLOSS: Integrity must be protected - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Take arrested officer off payroll: Chief: Police Chief Bill Closs asks minister to approve stopping arrested officer's wages - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Kingston Police Chief Bill Closs wants to stop issuing paycheques to a constable who has been on paid leave for more than three years. Yesterday, the chief took the unusual step of writing to Ontario's minister responsible for policing, asking permission to withhold pay from Const. David J. Robbins Jr. The 33-year-old officer was arrested Sunday by Napanee OPP and charged with breaking and entering, assault, vandalism, dangerous driving and two counts of violating his probation. It was his second brush with the law in eight months. "I believe that in these extraordinary circumstances there should at least be an opportunity to consider suspending an officer without pay," Closs wrote in a letter to Monte Kwinter, Minister of Community Safety and Correctional Services, dated Dec. 30. Closs provided a copy of his letter to The Whig-Standard. He said most people don't understand the limitations placed on chiefs of police and police service boards. Under the Police Services Act, a police officer can be suspended from duty with pay if suspected of or charged with a crime, he said, but suspension without pay requires a conviction and a jail sentence under section 67 (6) of the act. "Considering that criminal trials, Police Services Act trials and the corresponding suspensions with pay can take years to resolve, there needs to be a more timely and/or practical process that protects the rights of individual officers while maintaining the integrity of the justice system in the eyes of the public," the letter continues. In his letter to Kwinter, Closs enclosed a copy of yesterday's Whig-Standard story about Robbins' arrest. Closs writes to Kwinter: "There is no doubt that the rights of a police officer must be protected ... but I believe that there must also be a provision, given certain appropriate criteria or circumstances, to suspend an officer without pay when that officer is convicted of an offence but not sentenced to a term of imprisonment." The letter continues: "For example, is it in the public interest to have a suspension continue with pay when an officer who has been convicted of a criminal offence, but not sentenced to imprisonment, faces further charges?" Closs has spoken with Kingston Crown attorney Bruce Griffith about the situation and said the new criminal charges could result in additional charges under the Police Services Act. Robbins was scheduled to face a disciplinary hearing in March, before his arrest Sunday. That hearing stemmed from his conviction in April, when Robbins pleaded guilty to two counts of handling a firearm in a careless manner and was given a conditional discharge, placed on probation for three years and prohibited for 10 years from owning weapons. The judge provided an exemption that allows Robbins to carry a gun when on duty. Closs notes that Robbins' discharge can now be considered void since it was conditional upon his keeping his probation. His letter to Kwinter asks for the right to withhold pay from "the few officers who conduct themselves not in a professional manner and display disloyalty to their profession by committing criminal offences." Robbins is alleged to have forced his way into a home in Odessa on Sunday and shoved past its occupants to assault a man. A window was broken before he left, according to the OPP, and then he returned to crash his car into a pole. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 10:06:16 -0600 (CST) From: "Breitkreuz, Garry - Assistant 1" Subject: Letter: Guns in T.O. PUBLICATION GLOBE AND MAIL DATE: WED DEC.31,2003 PAGE: A12 BYLINE: RICHARD BINGHAM CLASS: Letter to the Edit EDITION: Metro DATELINE: Toronto O - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Guns in T.O. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Toronto In the recent spate of shootings, Toronto Police Chief Julian Fantino has failed to address the issue of where all the guns are coming from (Witnesses Are Silent As The Slain Weep -- Dec. 30). Canada is not exactly a world leader in handgun manufacturing. Certainly a little more attention to keeping illegal guns out of the country would prevent a lot more murders than the chief's preferred strategy of putting video cameras on every corner. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 10:07:10 -0600 (CST) From: "Breitkreuz, Garry - Assistant 1" Subject: It's fowl play: Chicken stolen, trucker trussed up PUBLICATION: Montreal Gazette DATE: 2003.12.31 EDITION: Final SECTION: News PAGE: A6 COLUMN: In Brief SOURCE: CP; Gazette - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- It's fowl play: Chicken stolen, trucker trussed up - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- A trucker was abandoned on a highway in southern Ontario yesterday after his tractor trailer was hijacked in Montreal on Monday night and robbed of 26,000 kilograms of frozen chicken. Two men armed with a shotgun and a rifle forced the driver into the rig's sleeping compartment and bound him with duct tape. The chicken was dropped off at an unknown site and the rig and driver were abandoned on Highway 400 in north Toronto. The driver, who suffered minor injuries, freed himself. The chicken was valued at $50,000 to $100,000. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 10:08:56 -0600 (CST) From: "Breitkreuz, Garry - Assistant 1" Subject: Martin's office 'puzzled' that Liberals part of drug probe: PUBLICATION: The Ottawa Citizen DATE: 2003.12.31 EDITION: Final SECTION: News PAGE: A3 BYLINE: Robert Fife SOURCE: The Ottawa Citizen; With files from The Vancouver Sun, TheCanadian Press - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Martin's office 'puzzled' that Liberals part of drug probe: Details on investigation murky, but PM's aide insists it's unrelated to federal politics - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Prime Minister Paul Martin won't suspend senior election campaign aides and other key supporters who have been caught up in a criminal investigation of a British Columbia drug trafficking and money-laundering scheme. The Prime Minister's Office said yesterday it has not been contacted by the RCMP about police raids involving prominent Liberal supporters of Mr. Martin's leadership, and suggested the investigation centres on "provincial matters" unrelated to federal politics. Scott Reid, the prime minister's senior adviser, said Mr. Martin has absolutely no knowledge of the criminal probe and does not believe it involves any activities involving his leadership campaign in B.C. "This entire matter is very puzzling. Mr. Martin's office has not been contacted by the RCMP. We have not had any requests to help them in terms of the provision of any kind of information and we don't know what the nature of the police inquiry is," he said. "Obviously it is related to provincial matters." Police have said evidence uncovered during a 20-month drug and organized crime investigation led to a spinoff probe into commercial crime, which resulted in a series of search warrants served on the weekend, including several against key insiders with the federal and provincial Liberal parties. Police have released few details, and will not explain how the worlds of politics, drugs and organized crime allegedly intersected. The case has resulted in the firing of Dave Basi, ministerial assistant to B.C. Finance Minister Gary Collins, and the suspension with pay of Bob Virk, the ministerial assistant to Transportation Minister Judith Reid. Their B.C. legislature offices were raided on Sunday, as well as Mr. Basi's home and a series of homes and businesses in Victoria and Vancouver. Mr. Basi issued a statement Monday saying he has done nothing wrong. Mr. Virk has not made a public statement. Both men were important players in Mr. Martin's leadership campaign. Police also raided a lobbying firm connected to Mr. Martin's chief B.C. leadership organizer, Erik Bornman, and questioned Mark Marissen, a key Martin ally and chairman of the B.C. federal Liberal election campaign. He is the husband of B.C. Deputy Premier Christy Clark. Canadian Alliance MP Chuck Strahl yesterday accused Mr. Martin of failing the test of leadership, saying he should be "burning up the phone lines" to determine whether his supporters are implicated in criminal matters. "I can't believe he would say there are police raids on several of my key folks in B.C., but it doesn't really matter," Mr. Strahl said. "I mean there is a criminal investigation here and, at the very least, he should be making sure that there is nothing to it or nothing that compromises his position as prime minister or his campaign people." Mr. Strahl demanded Mr. Martin ask any of the B.C. campaign workers, who were questioned by the RCMP to step aside until their names have been cleared. But Bill Cunningham, the president of the federal wing of the B.C. party, said there is no reason for anyone to step aside until the investigation is complete. Mr. Cunningham said Mr. Marissen has been assured by the RCMP that he was not involved in the probe and offered information to the police on the undisclosed investigation. Mr. Cunningham said Mr. Bornman, whose Pilothouse lobbying firm was also raided by the RCMP, will be asked not to attend the next several meetings of the Liberal party's national executive, but will not be asked to resign. However, a senior Martin adviser said the prime minister will immediately dump Mr. Bornman from the Liberal party national executive if charges are laid. Mr. Bornman had worked for Mr. Martin when he was finance minister and later became his chief organizer in B.C. Although the details of the police investigation are unknown, there is speculation high up in federal and provincial circles that it might involve the privatization of B.C. Rail. Robert Fife is parliamentary bureau chief. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 10:10:11 -0600 (CST) From: "Robert S. Sciuk" Subject: Re: Martin's office 'puzzled' that Liberals part of drug probe: Thanks Dennis, Just like rats on a sinking ship ... they'll eat each other rather than take the blame for anything ... On Wed, 31 Dec 2003, Breitkreuz, Garry - Assistant 1 wrote: >> Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 10:45:17 -0500 >> From: "Breitkreuz, Garry - Assistant 1" >> To: "Firearms Digest (E-mail)" >> Subject: Martin's office 'puzzled' that Liberals part of drug probe: >> >> PUBLICATION: The Ottawa Citizen >> DATE: 2003.12.31 >> EDITION: Final >> SECTION: News >> PAGE: A3 >> BYLINE: Robert Fife >> SOURCE: The Ottawa Citizen; With files from The Vancouver Sun, >> The Canadian Press - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-= Robert S. Sciuk ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 10:15:21 -0600 (CST) From: "D Manson" Subject: Salute three pillars Let's salute three of Canada's finest firearms champs for 2003. Their tireless work and persiverance in the face of adversity from ALL sides deserves special recognition. The three for '03 are: Mr. Gary Beitkreuz Mr. Dave Thomlison Mr Calvin Martin(q.c) From the firearms communty "Thank you" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 11:50:58 -0600 (CST) From: paul chicoine Subject: Re: Sun Rational And Fair On Firearms Control If James Thacker wants a translation of my letter James Thacker should have asked me. Lex wrote: > My problem is that someone (who is from somewhere other than Manitoba) has > pissed all over our local firearms-friendly newspaper. We (the RFC) didn't > need this. I say the Sun could have easily ignored those letters like they ignore hundreds of other submitted letters to the editor. In which case we would not be having this discussion. But they chose to publish and in doing so decided to condemn an entire region of the country. This is wrong-period! This is about selling newspapers, its about pleasing a certain audience and making money. Jim Thacker was quoted: > Clearly the split was done by the people in voting almost 100 percent > for alliance in the west and almost 0 percent in the east. That > alone suggests to me that there is a split and the split was not the > wests doing.... Clearly James you did not take a close look at the poll results from the last federal election. Vote splitting is what gives the Liberals their majorities. I also guess you have not been looking at the polling results in Liberal ridings which place support for continued funding of firearm registration at less than 10%. The Alliance could no more form a government that the BQ could. Both parties were born in regional protest. My point is that when a Manitoba newspaper trashes a whole other region those people in that region are apt to forget the issue of firearms. Don't believe me, ask Ontario subscribers to this digest if they are fed up with be blamed for the policies of the liberal government. The new government is taking a turn to the right. They are taking over some CPC turf, the new middle ground. Forging a new political party is about more than getting a few MPs from out east. The idea is to moderate the platform, take some of the harder edges off and come up with something everyone or al least a majority can swallow. The problem now is to find someone to place at the helm. __________ Paul Chicoine Non Assumsit Contract : All Rights Reserved : Without Prejudice ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 11:54:03 -0600 (CST) From: "Breitkreuz, Garry - Assistant 1" Subject: CANADA GAZETTE - Order Amending the Order Declaring an Amnesty Period CANADA GAZETTE http://canadagazette.gc.ca/partII/2003/20031231/html/sor414-e.html Registration SOR/2003-414 11 December, 2003 CRIMINAL CODE Order Amending the Order Declaring an Amnesty Period P.C. 2003-1992 11 December, 2003 Her Excellency the Governor General in Council, on the recommendation of the Minister of Justice, pursuant to subsection 117.14(1) (see footnote a) of the Criminal Code, hereby makes the annexed Order Amending the Order Declaring an Amnesty Period. ORDER AMENDING THE ORDER DECLARING AN AMNESTY PERIOD AMENDMENTS 1. The Order Declaring an Amnesty Period (see footnote 1) is amended by replacing the expression "December 31, 2003" with the expression "December 31, 2005" wherever it occurs in sections 2 to 5. 2. The heading before section 6 and sections 6 to 9 of the Order are repealed. COMING INTO FORCE 3. This Order comes into force on the day on which it is registered. REGULATORY IMPACT ANALYSIS STATEMENT (This statement is not par of the Order.) Description The order being amended is part of the package of statutory and regulatory provisions implementing the program for the control of firearms and other weapons. Bill C-68, now S.C. 1995, c. 39, comprised the Firearms Act and a completely amended Part III of the Criminal Code. It received Royal Assent on December 5, 1995. The Firearms Act and Part III of the Criminal Code have now been amended by Bill C-10A, now Chapter 8, Statutes of Canada 2003. Most of the amendments are yet to come into force. The Firearms Act and the supporting offence provisions in the Criminal Code establish a comprehensive program for the licensing of individuals and businesses that are in possession of firearms, the registration of all firearms, authorizations to transport and carry for restricted and prohibited firearms, and other measures. The order provides for the extension of the existing amnesty period to allow individuals and businesses to dispose lawfully, in the ways permitted by the order, of those handguns that became prohibited when the new Part III of the Criminal Code came into force. For more detailed information, see the description in the statement that accompanied the publication of the order. The order was registered as SOR/98-467, and was published in the Canada Gazette, Part II, Vol. 132, No. 20, at page 2734. The accompanying Regulatory Impact Analysis Statement begins at page 2737. The order also repeals sections of the Order Declaring an Amnesty Period that have expired. Alternatives An amendment of the existing order is the only means of extending the amnesty period. The Order Declaring an Amnesty Period being amended provides immunity to individuals and businesses so that they can bring themselves into compliance with the law without incurring criminal liability. Benefits and Costs This amnesty program affords individuals and businesses in illegal possession of handguns that were prohibited as a result of the coming into effect of the Firearms Act, an opportunity to dispose of them safely and lawfully. Individuals who were already grandfathered but who are in possession of handguns that were not will benefit from the amendments to the grandfathering provisions made in Bill C-10A. However, some time will be required in order to allow them to register these firearms before they can be lawfully possessed. It will also allow businesses to maintain possession of the firearms until amendments to the Firearms Licence Regulations that would allow the businesses to possess and sell these handguns can be made and implemented. Extending the amnesty until December 31, 2005 gives the firearms owners affected further time to take one of the permitted actions and bring themselves into compliance with the law. This will enhance overall compliance with the new firearms control program. The individuals and businesses affected benefit directly, and there is also a benefit to public safety that results from the legalizing of these firearms, in that the firearms are properly registered to licensed owners. Consultation Consultations on this amending order have been limited given the urgent nature of the amendment. However, the order is not expected to be controversial given that it is of direct benefit to those affected and that it is essentially providing more time to implement the will of Parliament as passed in Bill C-10A. To ensure that all stakeholders and interested parties are advised of the changes to the Order Declaring an Amnesty Period, immediately upon a decision, a news release and backgrounder will be issued. Web site materials and information for distribution through the 1-800 public inquiry line will be updated. Compliance and Enforcement As of January 1, 2003, every individual in Canada must have either an unexpired firearms acquisition certificate (FAC) or a licence - either a Possession Only or a Possession and Acquisition Licence - issued under the Firearms Act to be in possession of firearms, as well as a registration certificate for each firearm. Possession by an individual or a business of any firearms without a licence, and without a registration certificate will be an offence contrary to sections 91 and 92 of the Criminal Code. The Order Declaring an Amnesty Period protects the individuals and businesses covered by the order from these offence provisions. Contact Legal Services Canada Firearms Centre Ottawa, Ontario K1A 1M6 Telephone: 1-800-731-4000 FAX: (613) 941-1991 Footnote a S.C. 1995, C. 39, S. 139 Footnote 1 SOR/98-467 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 13:57:54 -0600 (CST) From: Rick Subject: Laughs and chuckles... "Karl Schrader" >> My dear Rick, I got a good laugh out of your response to my posting in >> which I merely in essence pointed out that we do not have one single >> strong national organization left anymore representing us. And I >> humbly would like I'm glad you got a giggle out of it Karl, but don't be so modest - take credit for EVERYTHING you wrote. Along with your comments about the lack of an organization, you felt the need to take a few swats at me, along the lines of stuff like this: "Seeing the NFA ripped to pieces by one Rick Lowe" You managed to get a good paragraph in about what you feel I have or haven't done, my allegedly slanted views, etc and so forth. And that's why you got the email in response that you did - although I am amused in turn that you somehow confused those comments as relating to a lack of an organization rather than your comments about me. After all, why should I try and take the credit for what Jim Hinter and Dave Tomlinson have done with the NFA? Credit where credit is due, right? As I see several other people have now also pointed out that I am not to blame for the NFA's corruption, incompetence, and current position circling the drain, perhaps we can leave it at that... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 14:47:32 -0600 (CST) From: David Brewerton Subject: Toronto Sun - Gun crime up 35% http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Law/2003/12/31/301091.html Wed, December 31, 2003 Gun violence is way up in Toronto this year Cops don't see where it will end By ROB LAMBERTI, TORONTO SUN Gun violence is up 35% in Toronto this year and almost half the city's murder victims were dispatched by a firearm. The rise in the use of guns appears based on drug turf battles, squabbles involving any of the more than six dozen identified gangs, retaliation for a previous tiff or sign of disrespect. "Violence begets more violence," said Det.-Sgt. Gary Keys of the Toronto Police guns unit "It's getting to a point where they're all arming themselves because they're worried that other people are armed." 65 MURDERS Of the city's 65 murders this year, 30 involved firearms. Of Toronto's 60 killings in 2002, 28 were committed with firearms, a drop from 2001, when 33 of 60 murder victims were shot. As of last night, there were 286 shootings reported this year to police, compared to 212 last year -- an increase of 35%. The Street Violence Task Force, created 12 weeks ago especially to get firearms and 400 targeted suspects off the streets, had seized 78 firearms as of Dec. 22. SMUGGLED FROM U.S. Keys said half of the street guns are smuggled in from the U.S., particularly Ohio, which has lax gun laws. The other half are stolen from lawful gun owners in break-ins here in Canada. Keys said there is also some renting out of guns to gangsters for specific uses while some gangs have "team guns." The list of violence since last Saturday includes two men shot to death, a woman stabbed to death, shots fired aimlessly in a possible home invasion, two teens wounded by gunfire and a man who was stabbed in the neck. One of the teens, who was 19 and known to police, was shot three times Monday afternoon as he pulled away from a traffic light along Canmore Blvd. at Cavalry Trail in Scarborough by someone in a black Lexus driving beside him. "To be randomly attacked like this just doesn't happen," said Det.-Sgt. Tom Archibald of 42 Division. "We don't know what it's about but you know darn well that it's no random attack." He said the victim didn't see his shooter. "All he knows is that he was hit," he said. 'SHOTS RING OUT' The victim drove to a nearby relative's home for help. His injuries are not considered life-threatening. "Here you are at 2:50 in the afternoon, there are kids still celebrating Christmas, still playing in the area, and shots ring out," he said. "It's just ridiculous, absolutely ridiculous." Archibald was a gang cop 11 years ago with the 4 District Street Crime Unit, and he's seen things get worse. Indeed, he reminisces about an era when many thought teens then were out of control. MEDICAL CARE Gangs, he said, are now more sophisticated and "are a lot more violent, and they're so loose with the gun," he said. "There's an absolute disregard for the community, the people in the community, the kids." Keys said only the high level of medical care has kept the death toll from soaring even higher. "Paramedics, trauma doctors, nurses and whatever are saving people's lives. It's what is keeping the homicide rate down." Both Keys and Archibald agree that it won't be the cops who stop the arms race. "We need help from the public," said Keys. - -- The commonest error in politics is clinging to the carcasses of dead policies. - Robert Arthur Talbot Gascoyne-Cecil, 9th Earl of Salisbury (1830-1903), British Prime Minister "Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." - C.S. Lewis "A system of licensing and registration, is the perfect device to deny gun ownership to the bourgeoisie."- Vladimir Lenin "Licensing of firearm owners also discourages casual gun ownership." - -CPA press release "The registering of hunting rifles is the first step in the social re-engineering of Canadians" - - Liberal Senator Sharon Carstairs "...disarming the Canadian public is part of the new humanitarian social agenda." - - Foreign Affairs Minister Lloyd Axeworthy at a Gun Control conference in Oslo, Norway in 1998. "The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants." (Albert Camus) "A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity."~~Sigmund Freud Gun control? It's the best thing you can do for crooks and gangsters. I want you to have nothing. If I'm a bad guy, I'm always gonna have a gun. Safety locks? You will pull the trigger with a lock on, and I'll pull the trigger. We'll see who wins. ~ Sammy "The Bull" Gravano, whose testimony convicted John Gotti. ------------------------------ End of Cdn-Firearms Digest V6 #784 ********************************** Submissions: mailto:cdn-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Mailing List Commands: mailto:majordomo@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Moderator's e-mail address: mailto:moderator@hitchen.org List owner: mailto:owner-cdn-firearms@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca FAQ list: http://www.magma.ca/~asd/cfd-faq1.html and http://teapot.usask.ca/cdn-firearms/Faq/cfd-faq1.html Web Site: http://teapot.usask.ca/cdn-firearms/homepage.html FTP Site: ftp://teapot.usask.ca/pub/cdn-firearms/ CFDigest Archives: http://www.sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca/~ab133/ or put the next command in an e-mail message and mailto:majordomo@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca get cdn-firearms-digest v04.n192 end (192 is the digest issue number and 04 is the volume) To unsubscribe from _all_ the lists, put the next five lines in a message and mailto:majordomo@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca unsubscribe cdn-firearms-digest unsubscribe cdn-firearms-alert unsubscribe cdn-firearms-chat unsubscribe cdn-firearms end (To subscribe, use "subscribe" instead of "unsubscribe".) 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