From: owner-can-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca (Cdn-Firearms Digest) To: cdn-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Subject: Cdn-Firearms Digest V6 #849 Reply-To: cdn-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Sender: owner-can-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Errors-To: owner-can-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Precedence: normal Cdn-Firearms Digest Thursday, January 22 2004 Volume 06 : Number 849 In this issue: Reimer's position betrays women in trouble Reimer's position betrays women in trouble Re: Belinda Stronach Re: Now we should disarm police? Release - Conservative Party of Canada Unveils Shadow Cabinet Stronach's 'Fox Paw' Re: Troll Hunting Gun Registry Re: Belinda Stronach Re: Belinda Stronach FW: [WomenAgainstGunControl] The LA Times and Common Sense. Belinda's Local Campaign Re: Human/Civil Rights Mrs. Belinda Stronach ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 13:35:36 -0600 (CST) From: Barry Glasgow Subject: Reimer's position betrays women in trouble Jan Reimer's unrelenting support for the gun registry borders on the bizarre. Using Firearms Centre data to try and put a positive spin on the wasteful exercise, Ms. Reimer conveniently ignores the fact that there is no evidence that any downward turn in gun crime can be attributed to the registry (in fact, people in Toronto would have something different to say about that). Though spousal homicides did decline from 1974 to 2000, mandatory licensing and its associated background checking actually took effect on January 1st, 2001. Ms. Reimer, Wendy Cukier and others conveniently omit the plain and simple fact that spousal homicides increased 26% after all firearms owners were to be licensed and checked out. Virtually none of the firearms program has addressed investigating license applicants and, while gun owners are criminally liable for not reporting address changes withing 30 days, violent offenders who have assaulted women and who have served out their paroles are not similarly restricted. Ms. Reimer claims to represent victimized women yet, while women's shelters are clamouring for funding, her Coalition For Gun Control activities resulted in a firearms program that cost $1 billion. That's $1000 million for now and at least 50-plus million dollars a year thereafter. Those who predicted this mess say that it may easily go to $2 billion. To put this into perspective, former Justice Minister McLellan, bending to increasing pressure from women's groups in 2002, raised federal funding for breast cancer research to a paltry $6 million. Ms. Reimer and her anti-gun crusaders have done Canadian woman a monumental dis-service for which they should be ashamed. Barry Glasgow 4041 Torbolton Ridge Rd. Woodlawn, Ontario 613-763-3097 (w) 613-832-2449 (h) ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 13:39:10 -0600 (CST) From: Barry Glasgow Subject: Reimer's position betrays women in trouble Jan Reimer's unrelenting support for the gun registry borders on the bizarre. Using Firearms Centre data to try and put a positive spin on the wasteful exercise, Ms. Reimer conveniently ignores the fact that there is no evidence that any downward turn in gun crime can be attributed to the registry (in fact, people in Toronto would have something different to say about that). Though spousal homicides did decline from 1974 to 2000, mandatory licensing and its associated background checking actually took effect on January 1st, 2001. Ms. Reimer, Wendy Cukier and others conveniently omit the plain and simple fact that spousal homicides increased 26% after all firearms owners were to be licensed and checked out. Virtually none of the firearms program has addressed investigating license applicants and, while gun owners are criminally liable for not reporting address changes withing 30 days, violent offenders who have assaulted women and who have served out their paroles are not similarly restricted. Ms. Reimer claims to represent victimized women yet, while women's shelters are clamouring for funding, her Coalition For Gun Control activities resulted in a firearms program that cost $1 billion. That's $1000 million for now and at least 50-plus million dollars a year thereafter. Those who predicted this mess say that it may easily go to $2 billion. To put this into perspective, former Justice Minister McLellan, bending to increasing pressure from women's groups in 2002, raised federal funding for breast cancer research to a paltry $6 million. Ms. Reimer and her anti-gun crusaders have done Canadian woman a monumental dis-service for which they should be ashamed. Barry Glasgow 4041 Torbolton Ridge Rd. Woodlawn, Ontario 613-763-3097 (w) 613-832-2449 (h) ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 14:12:48 -0600 (CST) From: "James A. Krock" Subject: Re: Belinda Stronach According to a previous post, a Google search will bring up newspaper articles about her relationship with Willy. And, apparently, the game was not golf. She contributed money to David Orchard, who is more NDP than Conservative. Does this mean she is anti-gun ???? At 11:23 AM 1/19/2004 -0600, you wrote: >IN V6 #837 James Krock wrote: >"This lady is doing us a favour. >She is a woman. Not only that she was one of Clinton's bimbos. >This is going to be worth a million dollars in publicity for the >Conservatives. And just before the election too !!" >James, can you elaborate on this? If she was one of Clinton's bimbos can we >assume she is a gun-grabber too? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 14:12:48 -0600 (CST) From: Robert LaCasse Subject: Re: Now we should disarm police? About 95% of Cops use their firearm as the only means of ego support they have, especially undercover "officers", I've seen them surround a nonchalant victim, pull a gun and kill unarmed people! Usually if there are 5 on 1 they won't pull a gun, but the favorite cop maneuver is to sneak up on you from behind and hold a gun on you, been there! I'm England one suspected "drug dealer " was sleeping naked on a bed and the cops stormed his place, and shot the hell out of him, like as if they were God or something. That's about when they started to get disarmed, and weird little covert groups started to spring up again! Cops usually feel a sense of power with a Gang, Badge and Gun, that over shadows Road Rage 1,000 fold! Since most Cops have little to lose of their own property, they don't seem to give a damn for their on any other persons life! I have been Robbed, Beaten by RCMP Cops who threatened to shoot me IN The BACK if I went to the Cop Shop, Shot in the Back? What's wrong with my front? So you can see how gutless they can be.... In 1970,k one Edmonton RCMP was on missing person task looking for and ended up shooting some 17 year old girl called "Jane", where he continued his dragnet for me as the nest intended victim to be framed "To Close The Case" with his 2 week dead cadaver in the trunk of his car. The RCMP and local help, gave up the search for me and the "Pony Boy" dumped her body off the hi-way stateside in Seattle Washington! I think I got some life bit in Edmonton Alberta right beside R. C. Olsen, when the other RCMP officers linked him to her death! Maybe Gorden vaguely remembers an event like that, but since my name got into the CPIC, I got harnessed and framed on charges to protect other officers little trips. Especially before the abolishment of Capital Punishment, these under covers had the luxury of powers beyond God to Do, Act, and Execute at random, with the arrogance that even Hitler did not enjoy! There's more diabolical events, to these cases, but this happens all the time, and undercover cops with guns are more rampant and ignorant than before! So if they carry at Home for Self Protection, they are still liable even under Double Standards to the Section (28).....charges, so what's the use of their having a "Properly Stored" firearm, it's of no use for self defense, and I for one don't care if they carry home under Civil Law. What's and Undercover Hells Angel? Bob On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 23:53:35 -0600 (CST), you wrote: |>------------------------------ |> |>Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 15:50:55 -0600 (CST) |>From: Barry Glasgow |>Subject: Now we should disarm police? |> |>It's bad enough that many Canadians would like us to follow |>the lead of other misguided (or, in some cases, malicious) |>governments to disarm their citizens but, in light of the |>recent domestic murder/suicide by a Kingston policeman, |>there are a few scatter-brained suggestions that off-duty |>police should leave their firearms at the police station. |>Forget about the vast majority of police who don't kill |>their wives. |>Forget about how this vast majority may find themselves |>in a position to use those firearms to protect lives |>and property while off-duty. |>Forget about the fact that criminals with grudges would |>delight in seeing off-duty cops more vulnerable. |>And forget about how the gradual disarming of British |>citizens and police has resulted in sky-rocketting gun crime |>and more British cops now getting shot at than at any other |>time in history. |>I sometimes have to shake my head in wonder. |>Barry Glasgow |>4041 Torbolton Ridge Rd. |>Woodlawn, Ontario |>613-763-3097 (w) |>613-832-2449 (h) |>______________________________________________________________________ Triad Productions-Fantalla(c)~EZine~ParaNovel WWWeb>> http://conspiracy.at/r_lacasse offnet>http://triad.virtualave.net/contact.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 16:17:15 -0600 (CST) From: "Breitkreuz, Garry - Assistant 1" Subject: Release - Conservative Party of Canada Unveils Shadow Cabinet -----Original Message----- From: Official Opposition Press Office - Service de presse de l'opposition officielle Sent: January 21, 2004 4:36 PM Subject: Release - Conservative Party of Canada Unveils Shadow Cabinet Office of the Leader of the Opposition Bureau du Chef de l'opposition FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE - Wednesday January 21, 2004 Conservative Party of Canada Unveils Shadow Cabinet "Unified, focused, pan-Canadian" team will hold Martin to account, says Hill OTTAWA - Leader of the Opposition Grant Hill today announced the composition of the Shadow Cabinet for the Conservative Party of Canada. "The team we are building is truly reflective of the pan-Canadian outlook of the Conservative Party of Canada," said Hill. "We've combined the strengths and talents of the Progressive Conservative Party and the Canadian Alliance, to create a remarkable Shadow Cabinet. We will hold the Paul Martin Liberals to account, and present the credible governing alternative that Canadians deserve from the Official Opposition." Hill added, "I'm excited to have the privilege to lead this team through the coming session of Parliament. Canadians are going to see a unified, focused Conservative Party in the House of Commons, which will head into the next election with momentum and energy." A full list of Shadow Cabinet responsibilities for the Conservative Party of Canada is attached. - -30- For more information, contact the Official Opposition Press Office: (613) 947-2400 Official Opposition Shadow Cabinet Leader of the Opposition: Grant Hill Senior Caucus Officers: Deputy Leader Elsie Wayne House Leader Loyola Hearn Whip Dale Johnston Caucus Chair Norman Doyle Question Period Directors David Anderson/Gerald Keddy Senior Critic Portfolios: Atlantic Canada Opportunities Agency Greg Thompson Agriculture and Agri-Food Gerry Ritz Citizenship & Immigration Diane Ablonczy Environment Bob Mills Finance Monte Solberg Fisheries and Oceans John Cummins Foreign Affairs Stockwell Day Health/Intergov't Affairs/Official Lang. Rob Merrifield Heritage Jim Abbott Human Resources & Skills Development Brian Pallister Indian Affairs and Northern Development John Duncan Industry James Rajotte International Cooperation Deepak Obhrai International Trade Charlie Penson Justice Vic Toews Labour Jim Gouk National Defence Jay Hill National Revenue Rahim Jaffer Natural Resources Dave Chatters President of the Privy Council Scott Reid Public Safety&Emergency Preparedness Peter MacKay Public Works and Government Services Leon Benoit Social Development Gary Lunn Transport James Moore Treasury Board Paul Forseth Veterans' Affairs Rick Casson Western Economic Diversification Carol Skelton OTHER RESPONSIBILITIES Rob Anders Defence (Civil Preparedness) Roy Bailey Environment (Parks) Rex Barnes Transport (Transport and Environment) Leon Benoit Canadian Wheat Board Garry Breitkreuz Deputy House Leader - Justice (Gun Registry) Andy Burton Fisheries (Ocean Action Plan) Chuck Cadman Justice (Youth Justice) Bill Casey Deputy Whip Reed Elley Human Resources & Skills Development (Student Loans) Ken Epp Agriculture & Agri-food (Rural Development) Brian Fitzpatrick International Trade (New & Emerging Markets) Cheryl Gallant Science and Small Business Industry (Federal Economic Development - Northern Ontario) Peter Goldring Human Resources & Skills Development (Homelessness) Gurmant Grewal Foreign Affairs (Canadians Abroad) Heritage (Multiculturalism) Deborah Grey Defence (Reserves) Art Hanger Citizenship & Immigration (Foreign Credentials) Dick Harris Finance (International Financial Institutions) Finance (Public Private Partnerships) Howard Hilstrom Agriculture & Agri-food (Agri-food) Betty Hinton Health (Public Health) Heritage (Status of Women) James Lunney Health (Natural Health Products) Official Languages Gerald Keddy International Trade (Resource Promotion) Jason Kenney Canada-U.S. Relations Inky Mark Citizenship and Immigration Philip Mayfield Treasury Board (Regulatory Reform) Grant McNally Human Resources & Skills Development (Children & Youth) Val Meredith Public Safety & Emergency Preparedness (Border Transit) Scott Reid Economic Development Agency - Quebec Infrastructure Entrepreneurs and New Canadians Gary Schellenberger Heritage Sport Werner Schmidt Caucus Vice Chair Carol Skelton Human Resources & Skills Development (Social Economy) Kevin Sorenson Public Safety & Emergency Preparedness Darrel Stinson Natural Resources (Development of Value Added Industries) Chuck Strahl Indian Affairs & Northern Development (Northern Economic Development) Greg Thompson Health Myron Thompson Justice (Child Pornography) Maurice Vellacott Office of Indian Residential Schools Resolution Randy White Advisor to the Leader Health (Drug Review Agency) Ted White Democratic Reform John Williams Public Accounts (Committee Chairman) Procurement Review Lynne Yelich Cities - -30- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 16:23:45 -0600 (CST) From: "Todd Birch" Subject: Stronach's 'Fox Paw' Belinda's slip of the slip, referring to long guns as "long necked" was perchance a Freudian association with her image of 'red necked' gun owners...... Scrapping the firearms registry may not fully address the problem of C-68 but it is a good start and bound to appeal to a broad base of voters who are fed up with the enormity of the cost over runs. As far as her stance on same-sex marriage, like it or not, the majority of Canadians are pro-choice on the matter. It has long been established that a political party needs to be 'middle of the road' in order to succeed at the polls, particularly in this era of touchy-feely political correctness. Her mono-linguistic problem is perhaps her greatest deficit. One has to be at least passable in both official languages or hopelessly inept in both ala Chretien to be politically appealing across the board. It's going to be an interesting contest with some viable candidates, unlike the farce of the Liberal leadership race. Todd Birch ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 16:23:46 -0600 (CST) From: "Mark L Horstead" Subject: Re: Troll Hunting >From: "russelles" >To: >Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 8:52 PM >Subject: Troll Hunting > > >> >> By golly, I think I bagged a Troll. > >Huh???? > >Mark ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 16:27:20 -0600 (CST) From: "Tracey Kleim" Subject: Gun Registry "Police Chiefs from across Atlantic Canada joined CACP President Edgar McLeod, to reaffirm their support for the law. They also called proposals to scrap the gun control regime as wasteful and irresponsible and a serious threat to the public safety." I think that we should all phone and write all the police stations that support this registry and withdrawl our support as citizens of this country, and say that if they want the registry so bad then the money should come out of the police budget. Want help with crime stoppers and such? well copper your trained to solve crime why should I help. Anyone have a list? 90% registered he must be talking to Easter....... bubbleheads. I stopped respecting the law as soon as the firearms act came out. Sorry, Im a liitle P*ssed today Tracey Kleim Canadian Director Women Against Gun Control www.wagc.com "Women helped take away guns. Now women must help get them back." _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/features&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 17:03:20 -0600 (CST) From: "Mark L Horstead" Subject: Re: Belinda Stronach >From: "James A. Krock" >To: >Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 3:12 PM ...snip... >No, her _company_ did. This is, regrettably, a standard business practice. >Often donations are made to all parties just to hedge their bets. > >Mark ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 20:19:42 -0600 (CST) From: Jim Powlesland Subject: Re: Belinda Stronach I On Wed, 21 Jan 2004, James A. Krock wrote: Sender: owner-cdn-firearms@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Precedence: normal Reply-To: cdn-firearms@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca > According to a previous post, a Google search will bring up > newspaper articles about her relationship with Willy. And, > apparently, the game was not golf. I tried searching at Google and found nothing. Please post the evidence. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 21:25:20 -0600 (CST) From: "Tracey Kleim" Subject: FW: [WomenAgainstGunControl] The LA Times and Common Sense. Tracey Kleim Canadian Director Women Against Gun Control www.wagc.com "Women helped take away guns. Now women must help get them back." >The LA Times and Common Sense. >Shockingly, The LA Times has another Op-Ed with common sense > >Walk Softly and Carry a Big Gun ...snip... >Now that makes sense to me. But then, I'm not from these parts. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 23:44:33 -0600 (CST) From: "Mark L Horstead" Subject: Belinda's Local Campaign I returned from another Lois Brown nomination campaign meeting a couple of hours ago. Who's Lois? She was the Alliance candidate who won the nomination in our riding a few months ago, before this merger popped up, and deservedly so although she had some stiff competition. She's running again to be the next Conservative candidate here as well. Her website, still being sketched out, is at http://www.loisbrown.ca/ Lois is well-regarded in the community, is an experienced campaigner, is very energetic, intelligent, passionate, and has solid support from members of both former parties. There was speculation at last week's meeting that Belinda may decide to seek this nomination as well, although she was also eyeing a couple of others. Well, she picked ours and many of us are not happy. Her press conference/official announcement was in the next town south, Aurora, which actually blends into Newmarket, where I live. I was phoned the evening before but it was a little too late to change my work schedule. Many of the people working for Lois, including the Riding President, were there, though, and they were not impressed. I am told that Dad answered the first six questions, and she became quite flustered when the teleprompter failed part way through. She was described as very wooden and/or robotic. The question that several wanted to ask was "do you agree with everything that your speechwriters are telling you?" Magna HQ is on the eastern outskirts of Aurora, so, naturally, many inhabitants are Magna employees. Some of them are supposedly less than thrilled, both by her in general, her direction of the company, and her political adventure. Rumour is that Magna wasn't doing as well under her direction as They would like everyone to believe so Dad had to come back and take over and this was a convenient face-saving exit. This has considerably quietened our fears that she would be influencing her employees to take out memberships and support her bid. They may indeed buy memberships, but it's a secret ballot and many may use this as an opportunity to blade the boss. In any event, she has little time to sell memberships and we have a huge head start. Her national campaign is also working against her local one in that it is spreading the effort in two different directions. This is also a fairly socially conservative area. Her same-sex marriage pronouncement and day-before-declaration divorce filing won't help her much locally. More to follow as the situation develops, and, remember, the afore-mentioned rumours are unsubstantiated. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 00:05:56 -0600 (CST) From: Rick Subject: Re: Human/Civil Rights Hi Ed: Edward Hudson wrote: > The pertinent question seems to be, > > "How to we establish this "belief" as an actual "fact" ?" Bingo. > Therefore, I will gladly use this legal document as defense in court. > > We have refused to submit to the unjust demands of the Firearms Act. > We have taken the first step necessary to establish our Right "to > preserve one's peace, health, and life." Ignoring the requirement to be Protestant, when you're using this as your defence, how do you plan on explaining the part of that particular right that says "...suitable to their conditions, and as allowed by law." "And as allowed by law"... seems to me the Firearms Act allows you to own firearms - within the constraint of the law and as allowed by law. So where does the Firearms Act violate the English Bill of Rights as written? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 00:05:57 -0600 (CST) From: Yvon Dionne Subject: Mrs. Belinda Stronach Cerlainly, Mrs Stronach is a very charming lady and if charm (or money) would be the only... firearm in politics, she would certainly win. No doubt about this. Take the issue of firearms control. Paul Martin created a committee to conceal what he knew or was ready to decide before or after election date, but you are still dreaming on what he is going to decide and he might keep you waiting, as a shrewd politician he is, to the next elections in five years! In the meantime, this week, Belinda Stronach said, may be without any conviction, may be to charm westerners and some easterners like me, may be to charm the Canadian Alliance supporters while she is really supported by the old conservatives (called progressives,albeit with a new face, but who were really drowned in corruption) that she would scrap the long-gun registry. Is Paul going to do better than that? No (well, he has a few months to say better). But what Mrs Stronach is really asking is going back to Bill C-17 of 1991, when it became harder to get a license to buy firearms or to buy and own handguns, and when you could not use a firearm for self-defense (because of safekeeping restrictions which made self-defense impossible, unless you break the State Police rules). But also, Belinda, of course not being well advised because she lacks experience (well, anybody has the right to error), did not say you would not need a license to own a long gun. Right? Garry Breitkreuz, on his website, and many others (including myself, Gary Mauser, Pierre Lemieux, George Jonas, CUFOA, etc.), have said or demonstrated that licensing is not the answer to criminality, even licensing of handguns' ownership although, of course, as a political expedient or gimmick, politicians might say, well "They want their shotguns back, they will get them if they have a license". This is exactly what Belinda promised... because, as the old conservatives (who called themselves progressives...) like Mulroney and others, she really said that you must have a license to own a firearm. She only promised the end to long-gun registration. If I read English well... Belinda did not say, like the RCMP, that you must have a license and have your firearms registered; she said you only need to have a license for all firearms and your short-guns registered? The difference: long guns will not need to be registered. It's part Bill c-68 and Bill c-17. In the meantime, Paul Martin, the financier of Bill c-68, promised a review... So, Mrs Stronach is still a step ahead of Martin, but behind others. Therefore, we are facing the choice between a review and promises (Paul), an end to long-gun registration (Belinda) and the end to the Firearms Act of 1995. And we are still facing a dilemma between freedom and security. Old conservatives promise more security at the expense of freedom. Paul wants to get closer to Bush. Conservatives (old and new) want to copy Bush. In fact, more state controls might mean more security in the short term; but more controls are more often the result of less individual responsability. The end product is a society where individuals depend on the State not only for their security but for everything else. Do not think that the social engineers and politicians, in the name of freedom, will only want your security... at no cost. Not to get out a criminal from jail back in the streets is not the issue here. Anybody, except the hardcore liberals, will agree on that. The question is whether or not we would like to have a bureaucrat (whether dressed as a policeman or not), to check that everything you do is not a criminal or a terrorist act, when we know that being a criminal today goes from sneaking pot to having a bullet in your pockets at a public meeting, to killing your neighbour, to browsing on the internet. The real issue with the Firearms Act and other legislations, in the name of security, public health, morality, etc., is that politicians are creating paper criminals. This is alcohol prohibition on a grand scale and it did not work for alcohol. Whether or not Belinda, Paul Martin, or Stephen, become Prime Minister, the practical question is: will I renew my license when it expires? Yvon Dionne ------------------------------ End of Cdn-Firearms Digest V6 #849 ********************************** Submissions: mailto:cdn-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Mailing List Commands: mailto:majordomo@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Moderator's e-mail address: mailto:moderator@hitchen.org List owner: mailto:owner-cdn-firearms@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca FAQ list: http://www.magma.ca/~asd/cfd-faq1.html and http://teapot.usask.ca/cdn-firearms/Faq/cfd-faq1.html Web Site: http://teapot.usask.ca/cdn-firearms/homepage.html FTP Site: ftp://teapot.usask.ca/pub/cdn-firearms/ CFDigest Archives: http://www.sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca/~ab133/ or put the next command in an e-mail message and mailto:majordomo@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca get cdn-firearms-digest v04.n192 end (192 is the digest issue number and 04 is the volume) To unsubscribe from _all_ the lists, put the next five lines in a message and mailto:majordomo@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca unsubscribe cdn-firearms-digest unsubscribe cdn-firearms-alert unsubscribe cdn-firearms-chat unsubscribe cdn-firearms end (To subscribe, use "subscribe" instead of "unsubscribe".) 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