From: owner-can-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca (Cdn-Firearms Digest) To: cdn-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Subject: Cdn-Firearms Digest V7 #66 Reply-To: cdn-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Sender: owner-can-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Errors-To: owner-can-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Precedence: normal Cdn-Firearms Digest Monday, April 12 2004 Volume 07 : Number 066 In this issue: RCMP boss, diplomats lavish spenders more proof the Americans don't know anything about Canada Editorial: Herewith, our seal of approval Myths and things... Rwanda quote LETTER: Imagine a Liberal 'Apprentice' More room sought for growing PMO office Re: Court Re: Court Re: Court Easter EDITOR Editorial: Goodale fixes must include gun control ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 10:22:54 -0600 (CST) From: Bruce Mills Subject: RCMP boss, diplomats lavish spenders http://www.canada.com/edmonton/edmontonjournal/news/story.html?id=4683fc64-0423-4d6c-b8f8-be731d27a18a RCMP boss, diplomats lavish spenders Goodale, Keyes the frugal opposite, website says Tim Naumetz CanWest News Service Saturday, April 10, 2004 OTTAWA - RCMP Commissioner Giuliano Zaccardelli and members of Canada's diplomatic corps win honours as big spenders in the first mandatory public release of expense accounts for cabinet ministers and top civil servants. Zaccardelli lavished $5,744.78 on nine dinners, lunches and a staff Christmas party between Dec. 12 and Feb. 26, according to the accounts published on the Treasury Board website. The meals included three working luncheons and one working dinner at the prestigious Rideau Club in downtown Ottawa which cost a total of $2,312.01. The RCMP was one of the federal agencies hit hardest by government restraint over the last decade, at one point temporarily closing its training college in Regina because it could not afford new recruits. John Williamson, head of the Canadian Taxpayers' Federation had praised Prime Minister Paul Martin's decision to impose the expense-disclosure policy when he took office Dec. 12. Williamson predicted that the risk of public embarrassment or reprimands will pressure politicians and government employees to keep spending down. But Zaccardelli, some diplomatic staff at Canadian embassies around the world and a sprinkling of other government employees appear not to have been intimidated. Pamela Wallin, the former journalist who is Canada's consul general in New York, spent $12,510.32 on hospitality between Dec. 12 and Feb. 29. Wallin's boss, Foreign Affairs Minister Bill Graham, spent a more modest $4,843.57 on hospitality during the same period. Jack Anawak, Canada's ambassador for circumpolar affairs, did not spend a penny on either travel or hospitality during the reporting period. Robert Wright, Canada's ambassador to Japan, spent $35,179.32 on hospitality between Dec. 12 and Feb. 19. The total included $5,704.68 for the Tokyo mission's annual Christmas party and $6,409.58 for a reception marking the 75th anniversary of diplomatic relations between Canada and Japan. Wright's bill included 17 business lunches, eight business dinners and four breakfasts. Jocelyne Bourgon, a former clerk of the Privy Council who is Canada's ambassador to the Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development in Paris, spent $15,448.02 on hospitality. The tab included $3,265.76 for a staff Christmas party, where Bourgon hosted 21 employees and 21 guests at her official residence. She also spent $5,672.81 for a dinner buffet for members of other OECD delegations. Michael Kergin, Canada's ambassador in Washington, spent $21,223.03 on hospitality between Dec. 12 and Feb. 25. The expenditures included $8,244 for a reception for 135 embassy employees and 80 guests on Dec. 13 at Kergin's official residence. The reception was attributed to "management of missions abroad." Canada's ambassador to France, Claude Laverdure, spent $41,142.48 on hospitality over nearly two months, including an expenditure of a relatively modest $2,051 on a Christmas party for the embassy's 210 employees. Laverdure's bill included 22 lunches, eight dinners, one tea and no breakfasts. Back at home, austerity was the watchword for the ministers in control of government money. Finance Minister Ralph Goodale spent a total of $230.26 on hospitality in December and $703.86 in January and February, including $11.50 he reported for a pre-budget dinner meeting. Revenue Minister Stan Keyes spent a total of $180.47 on hospitality in December and $145.81 in January and February, all of which went for water, coffee, tea, soft drinks and juice. © The Edmonton Journal 2004 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 14:19:08 -0600 (CST) From: paul chicoine Subject: more proof the Americans don't know anything about Canada Campbell among 'most important' leaders Last Updated Sat, 10 Apr 2004 13:16:57 OTTAWA - Although she was prime minister of Canada for less than five months, Kim Campbell has been ranked as one of history's 50 "most important political leaders" by the National Geographic Society. Campbell, who led the country for 132 days back in 1993, was included for being Canada's first female prime minister, according to the Washington D.C.-based society. She and her Progressive Conservatives went from having a majority government to holding only two seats after the November 1993 election. The former cabinet minister lost her own Vancouver seat. Some other leaders on the list: Bilqis, the Queen of Sheba (10th century B.C.) Attila the Hun (ca 406-453) Charlemagne (742-814) Catherine the Great (1729-1796) John F. Kennedy (1917-1963) Benazir Bhutto (1953- ) Campbell's name appears on the list of influential leaders alongside such historical giants as Alexander the Great, Cleopatra, Napoleon Bonaparte, Abraham Lincoln and Winston Churchill. The society put two other Canadian prime ministers on the list in its new reference book called the Almanac of World History. Sir John A. Macdonald is named for "expanding Canada's territory" and "building transcontinental railroads." William Lyon Mackenzie King got the nod for his 21 years in power and his wartime leadership. __________ Paul Chicoine Non Assumpsit Contract - All Rights Reserved - Without Prejudice ___________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 15:23:40 -0600 (CST) From: paul chicoine Subject: Editorial: Herewith, our seal of approval http://www.canada.com/montreal/montrealgazette/editorials/story.asp?id=BE8B866F-8AEC-473D-A5CA-1528AFEC1E6A EDITORIAL STORY Herewith, our seal of approval The Gazette Once again, limousine liberals from Manhattan to Knightsbridge are fretting and signing petitions about the fate of the cute little seals off Canada's east coast. We think these earnest souls should spend a winter in a Newfoundland outport before they form their opinions. Until that happens, we're pleased to offer them our solution to the seal problem: Seal Flipper Pie Ingredients Filling 3 seal flippers very thin slices of fatback pork 5 onions, sliced 3 Oxo cubes in 2 cups water 2 tsp savory 2 tsp Worcestershire sauce 1 each - carrot, parsnip, turnip, potato, chopped flour to thicken Crust 3 cups flour 6 tsp baking powder 1/4 tsp salt 1/4 lb margarine 1 1/2 cups milk Instructions Filling 1. Meticulously remove all fat from the 3 seal flippers. 2. Cover bottom of heavy skillet with very thin slices of fatback pork. 3. Render the fat, remove pork, and sear the well-seasoned flippers. 4. To a roasting pan add: 2 inches of water; onions; dissolved Oxo; savory; Worcestershire sauce. 5. Add chopped flippers and fatback. Cook uncovered for about 90 minutes at 325 degrees F. The meat should be tender and the bones can be removed if desired. 6. Add vegetables, except potato, and more water if required. Cook an additional 20 minutes.Add potato and cook a further 20 minutes. Add flour to thicken. Crust Mix flour, baking powder, and salt. Cut in margarine, rubbing through fingers until stage of fine crumbs. Add milk. Mix with spoon/hands, roll lightly. Put flipper mixture in pan or dish. Cover with pastry, and cook at 375-400 F until crust is brown, about 20 minutes. © Copyright 2004 Montreal Gazette ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 07:31:29 -0600 (CST) From: "Linda J." Subject: Myths and things... This U.S. site focuses on a lot of myths and things. It never hurts to know what the anti's are up to.... Physician's for Social Responsibility http://www.psr.org/ One of their documents... Counselling Patients On Gun Violence Prevention: A Pocket Guide for Physicians and Nurses http://www.psr.org/documents/psr_doc_0/program_2/PktGuide02b2.pdf Or access .pdf document from here: PSR's Firearm "Pocket" Guide for Health Care Providers http://www.psr.org/home.cfm?id=health_tools1 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 07:34:13 -0600 (CST) From: Larry James Fillo Subject: Rwanda quote The government gave us permission to kill. And they said that if we didn't, we would be in trouble." Felicien Ntibalikure, a 45-year-old released after spending a decade in jail for his part in the Rwandan massacres. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The massacre was stopped at 900,000 by a group of poorly armed rebels who'd been holed up at the request of Gen. Dallaire. Finally, the rebels learning of the ongoing government controlled massacre set out to stop it. The rebels considered raiding Gen. Dallaire's troop cache of weapons as they were not being used to fight Rwandan government committing the genocide. - -something to keep in mind when considering the Liberal Government spent $15 million on ("gun control" ) civilian disarmament programs in Africa. I understand, Ms. Order of Canada has been an advisor in that respect receiving federal taxpayer dollars to do so. Liberals have no sense of shame. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 08:51:42 -0600 (CST) From: Bruce Mills Subject: LETTER: Imagine a Liberal 'Apprentice' http://www.canoe.ca/CalgarySun/editorial.html Imagine a Liberal 'Apprentice' RE: THE TV show The Apprentice. I'm not sure the American reality show The Apprentice would work in Ottawa. Let's conjure up a scenario with interns working for Liberal cabinet ministers (pick one) and let the cameras roll: Liberal minister: "Well, apprentice, how did you manage the budget?" Intern: "Good news, minister. I have discovered many efficiencies." Liberal minister: "That's great! Tell me more." Intern: "For starters, the current government is receiving yearly revenues of $190 billion and we could operate on much less, giving the taxpayers some relief and stimulate the economy." Liberal minister: "Hmmm....." Intern: "There's more. I've discovered so much waste to cut. Look at this useless long-gun registry that is on its way to $2 billion. Grants and loans to large political donors and corporations can't be justified; huge slush funds with little or no accounting. All of this money could be diverted to health care or ..." Liberal minister: "You're fired." Tom Empey Belleville, Ontario (You're right. It wouldn't work under the Liberals.) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 13:31:46 -0600 (CST) From: Bruce Mills Subject: More room sought for growing PMO office http://www.canada.com/edmonton/edmontonjournal/news/story.html?id=fa6280da-c38a-43b1-a609-4a053d9a722a More room sought for growing PMO office Entire Ottawa block needed for proposed $69M complex Tim Naumetz CanWest News Service Sunday, April 11, 2004 OTTAWA -- A $69-million project that would designate an entire Ottawa city block as the central complex for the prime minister's swelling staff and supporting Privy Council Office employees is being considered by the Public Works Department. Under a plan first raised internally in 2001, the consolidation adjacent to the existing Langevin Building, which houses the Prime Minister's Office and is located across the street from Parliament Hill, would centralize several hundred PCO and PMO employees now located in 10 separate downtown locations and improve security. The prime minister's staff and PCO employees would take over the historic post office at Elgin and Sparks streets, the heritage Blackburn building, smaller buildings on the same block and a "heritage friendly" building that would fill the alley in the centre. The secret plan was obtained by Ottawa researcher Ken Rubin under the Access to Information Act. Federal officials say the idea is unrelated to former prime minister Jean Chretien's short-lived dream of converting several city blocks in front of Parliament Hill into a European-style boulevard with a vista to the Peace Tower. The head of the Canadian Taxpayers Federation, however, said the plan is a symbol of the growth of size and power of the Prime Minister's Office under Chretien. Federation director John Williamson said it could be a mistake for Prime Minister Paul Martin to endorse the centralization in light of his promise to give MPs, and not his own office, more power. "The big question is why is it necessary at this time of democratic review ... for the Prime Minister's Office and the Privy Council Office to continue to grow?" asked Williamson. Pierre Teotonio, a spokesman for the Public Works Department, confirmed the plan is still alive, adding in an e-mail that "no decision has been made and no approvals have been sought." A 2002 memo said the aging buildings on the block require renovation anyway. "From an engineering perspective, basically all the buildings in Block 1 need to be renovated and due to the structural and design limitations of these old buildings it is very difficult to put all the modern mechanical, electrical, safety, security etc. requirements in them," the memo said. "From a client perspective, PMO/PCO is spread out in various buildings around the area and is growing," it added. "So the plan is to kill two birds with one stone by renovating the three major buildings in the block and incorporating the rest into a heritage-friendly new infill building." Major renovations and capital projects on Parliament Hill were put on hold in December pending a review of all government spending ordered by Martin. © The Edmonton Journal 2004 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 13:34:13 -0600 (CST) From: B Farion Subject: Re: Court Cdn-Firearms Digest wrote: Hi; Was in court the other day. Fellow put the boots to a contractor who mysteriously made of with much equipement. Was indicted under a section 109! Made it mandatory to prohibit firearms possesion for 10 years. All cam out of a thick green book! What is the book?? Also had to give a DNA sample and pay $1500 + $100 surcharge. Numbers may be a little out. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 13:58:17 -0600 (CST) From: Bruce Mills Subject: Re: Court B Farion wrote: > > Cdn-Firearms Digest wrote: > Hi; > Was in court the other day. > Fellow put the boots to a contractor who mysteriously made of with much > equipement. > Was indicted under a section 109! Made it mandatory to prohibit firearms > possesion for 10 years. CCC 109. (1) Where a person is convicted, or discharged under section 730, of (a) an indictable offence in the commission of which violence against a person was used, threatened or attempted and for which the person may be sentenced to imprisonment for ten years or more, CCC 730 Absolute and Conditional Discharges Probably made a deal where he plead guilty and was given a conditional discharge to Assault causing Bodily Harm. 267. Every one who, in committing an assault, (a) carries, uses or threatens to use a weapon or an imitation thereof, or (b) causes bodily harm to the complainant, is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding ten years or an offence punishable on summary conviction and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding eighteen months. R.S., 1985, c. C-46, s. 267; 1994, c. 44, s. 17. > All came out of a thick green book! What is the book?? Probably the Judges Firearms Desk Manual. > Also had to give a DNA sample and pay $1500 + $100 surcharge. Numbers > may be a little out. 487.051 (1) Subject to section 487.053, if a person is convicted, discharged under section 730 or, in the case of a young person, found guilty under the Young Offenders Act, chapter Y-1 of the Revised Statutes of Canada, 1985, or the Youth Criminal Justice Act of a designated offence, the court (a) shall, subject to subsection (2), in the case of a primary designated offence, make an order in Form 5.03 authorizing the taking, from that person, for the purpose of forensic DNA analysis, of any number of samples of one or more bodily substances that is reasonably required for that purpose, by means of the investigative procedures described in subsection 487.06(1); or "primary designated offence" means (a) an offence under any of the following provisions, namely, [...] (ix) section 244 (causing bodily harm with intent), (x) section 267 (assault with a weapon or causing bodily harm), (xi) section 268 (aggravated assault), (xii) section 269 (unlawfully causing bodily harm), [...] All according to the law. Yours in Liberty, Bruce Hamilton Ontario ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 14:07:55 -0600 (CST) From: sparkplug Subject: Re: Court Howdy; The Book was probably "Martin's Crimminal Code" Section 109 of the C.C. deals with mandatory firearms "Prohibitions' which result from a conivtion of certain offenses to do with violence, drugs, firearms etc The person in your story got the max of ten years and prob only used his barehands/feet DNA is for violent offenders registry. Rick in Bruce Mines ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 21:56:18 -0600 (CST) From: "gordon" Subject: Easter This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0051_01C4200E.72CB17C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Very quiet weekend. Good for me though, have my computer completely = redone and functioning great. =20 Thought I would take a moment to wish all a Happy Easter. Gordon Hitchen gordon@hitchen.org [Moderator's Note: Please turn off HTML/MIME and/or "quoted-printable" encoding before posting messages to the Digest - plain text only. BNM] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 08:43:37 -0600 (CST) From: "M.J. Ackermann, MD (Mike)" Subject: EDITOR This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --------------090802080208060606050501 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Editor, In response to recent demands by Immigration officials that they be allowed to carry firearms for personal protection while performing their duties, may I quote erstwhile Justice Minister Allan Rock, "Protection of life is NOT a legitimate use for a firearm in this country sir! Not! That is expressly ruled out!" (1). This leads one to ask, just what is a legitimate use for a firearm in Mr. Rock's view? Remember, he and the rest of the Liberals are determined to eliminate the possession of guns by anyone other than a government agent. This bodes ill for the future of Canada. (1) -Justice Minister Allan Rock "Canadian justice issues, a town hall meeting" - - Producer - Joanne Levy, Shaw cable, Calgary (403) 250-2885 - Taped at the Triwood community center in Calgary Dec.1994 - -- M.J. Ackermann, MD (Mike) Rural Family Physician, Sherbrooke, NS Secretary, St. Mary's Shooters Association Box 13, 120 Cameron Rd. Sherbrooke, NS Canada B0J 3C0 902-522-2172 My email: mikeack@ns.sympatico.ca My Bio: http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/mikeack/mikeack.htm SMSA URL: www.smsa.ca "Hope for the best, but plan for the worst". [Moderator's Note: Please turn off HTML/MIME and/or "quoted-printable" encoding before posting messages to the Digest - plain text only. BNM] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 08:52:06 -0600 (CST) From: "Breitkreuz, Garry - Assistant 1" Subject: Editorial: Goodale fixes must include gun control PUBLICATION: The StarPhoenix (Saskatoon) DATE: 2004.04.12 EDITION: Final SECTION: Forum PAGE: A6 SOURCE: The StarPhoenix - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Goodale fixes must include gun control - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- One should not be surprised that the provincial government's $75,000 advertising campaign to complain about Saskatchewan's share of the federal equalization program failed to draw much of a response. Well before the campaign kicked off, federal Finance Minister Ralph Goodale had made it clear in words and deeds that he recognized the need to reassess the correctness of the formula. In fact, had Canada's finance minister come from any other jurisdiction, it is quite likely Saskatchewan would not have received the $120 million in compensation (based on a recalculation of equalization that dates back to 1986) that helped save Saskatchewan Finance Minister Harry Van Mulligen's hide. And without that largesse from Goodale, Van Mulligen's budget would have left Saskatchewan's school boards scrambling to find the money to cover the provincially mandated increases in teacher salaries (likely through hikes in property tax) and the meager two-per-cent increase for the universities wouldn't have happened. Goodale has also said his department will be re-examining the concerns of all the provinces during the next round of equalization discussions set to begin this year. The program seemed to have worked well most years, but went out of whack between 1999 and 2001 when it appears Saskatchewan was punished because its revenue from Crown leases -- which are auctioned off on the open market -- was lower than Alberta's. The minister's clear understanding of Saskatchewan's situation extends beyond equalization. Last week, Goodale was in Saskatoon to announce incremental operating funding for the Canadian Light Source, extending to 2008-09. This means Canada's largest research facility, which is scheduled to open this fall, will have a total of $89.8 million for operating costs over the next five years. Without this money, it is highly unlikely the CLS would be able to attract the world-class researchers it needs to reach its potential. A lot of credit for the synchrotron's new operating money must go to the likes of U of S president Peter MacKinnon, CLS director Bill Thomlinson and Doug Richardson, all of whom lobbied aggressively for years. Until now, this effort bore little fruit, however, because -- in spite of its scope -- until Goodale became finance minister, few people in Ottawa had any idea how important the synchrotron is to Canada. There is no question that Goodale's ability to bring some satisfaction to both these issues will benefit, in turn, the University of Saskatchewan, Saskatoon and Saskatchewan but there is also no doubt that the benefit is for all of Canada. Although fixing equalization and supporting the country's flagship research facility are critically important initiatives, one can be reasonably sure they wouldn't have happened without a competent and determined minister native to the province most deeply impacted. This still doesn't mean the Liberals are out of the woods in Saskatchewan. Goodale himself has said that Saskatchewan voters shouldn't feel they must vote Liberal to be able to tap into federal programs. Rather, he says, it is up to the Liberals to prove their party will deliver the goods. The $120-million compensation payment is appreciated but the formula still needs fixing. The $19-million, incremental boost to the CLS's operating funds will help but the federal government must permanently address the operating needs of the large, national science programs such as the synchrotron. And there are still a number of issues on which Saskatchewan voters will want satisfaction -- not the least of which is the federal gun registry. This program has already cost Canadians upwards of a billion dollars for no apparent benefit, while criminalizing or forcing erstwhile peaceful firearm owners, under threat of severe sanction, to reveal the most intimate details of their personal lives in order to maintain their personal lawful property. Certainly, Prime Minister Paul Martin's government seems to be taking steps to address many of the concerns Canadians have about the veracity of the governing party and Goodale has made tremendous strides to overcome the feelings of desperate alienation that has grown in Saskatchewan over the past decade. The road to redemption is long, however, and the star Liberal candidates who have been attracted to run in this province are likely to find the going tough until something is done to fix gun control -- the one program that was the primary reason four of the five Liberal MPs from 1993 were out of a job by 1997. ------------------------------ End of Cdn-Firearms Digest V7 #66 ********************************* Submissions: mailto:cdn-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Mailing List Commands: mailto:majordomo@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Moderator's e-mail address: mailto:moderator@hitchen.org List owner: mailto:owner-cdn-firearms@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca FAQ list: http://www.magma.ca/~asd/cfd-faq1.html and http://teapot.usask.ca/cdn-firearms/Faq/cfd-faq1.html Web Site: http://teapot.usask.ca/cdn-firearms/homepage.html FTP Site: ftp://teapot.usask.ca/pub/cdn-firearms/ CFDigest Archives: http://www.sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca/~ab133/ or put the next command in an e-mail message and mailto:majordomo@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca get cdn-firearms-digest v04.n192 end (192 is the digest issue number and 04 is the volume) To unsubscribe from _all_ the lists, put the next five lines in a message and mailto:majordomo@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca unsubscribe cdn-firearms-digest unsubscribe cdn-firearms-alert unsubscribe cdn-firearms-chat unsubscribe cdn-firearms end (To subscribe, use "subscribe" instead of "unsubscribe".) 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