From: owner-can-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca (Cdn-Firearms Digest) To: cdn-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Subject: Cdn-Firearms Digest V7 #600 Reply-To: cdn-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Sender: owner-can-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Errors-To: owner-can-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Precedence: normal Cdn-Firearms Digest Monday, December 6 2004 Volume 07 : Number 600 In this issue: Bid to stop gun program's funding divides Liberals 6 décembre 1989 : la commémoration relance les débats sur le Canadians recall grim anniversary of rampage Editorial: AND ANOTHER THING ... PM MARKS MONTREAL MASSACRE GUN AMNESTY PLAN Calgary Herald Editorial: Wildly missing the target 28-year-old is facing 11 weapons, drugs and bail-related offences HELP SOUGHT TO NAB NOTORIOUS CROOKS ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2004 11:36:51 -0600 (CST) From: Breitkreuz@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca, Garry - Assistant 1 Subject: Bid to stop gun program's funding divides Liberals NOTE: Versions of this article also appeared in the Ottawa Citizen, Victoria Times Colonist, Windsor Star, Vancouver Sun, Edmonton Journal, Regina Leader Post. PUBLICATION: National Post DATE: 2004.12.06 EDITION: National SECTION: News PAGE: A1 / Front BYLINE: Bill Curry SOURCE: CanWest News Service DATELINE: OTTAWA - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ MP sets sights on registry: Bid to stop gun program's funding divides Liberals - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ OTTAWA - A Liberal MP, once a loyal supporter of Paul Martin, is taking on his own fragile government in an effort to stop the flow of money to the gun registry. In the biggest test of the Liberal minority since the Throne Speech vote on Oct. 7, Sarnia-Lambton MP Roger Gallaway's motion would scrap a $97-million payment to the Canadian Firearms Centre, essentially killing the program. All 99 Conservative MPs are expected to support Mr. Gallaway, while the 54 Bloc Quebecois MPs will likely back the government. Making the vote unpredictable, however, is that the Liberals and NDP are divided. NDP MP Joe Comartin, who said he would have preferred a more symbolic budget cut and will not support Mr. Gallaway, predicted most of the 19 New Democratic MPs will side with the government. The rest of his colleagues are still debating the matter, he said. "For me, the big question mark is how many of the Liberals are going to defect and vote against the government," said Mr. Comartin, who represents Windsor-Tecumseh. "The best estimate I can give you at the moment is between 10 and 20 [out of 135 Liberal MPs]," he said. The proposed cut represents about 85% of the registry's annual budget. Mr. Gallaway would not comment on the practical effect of his motion, but Mr. Comartin said he is certain its passage would kill the registry. The motion will be voted upon on Thursday, when annual spending estimates of all departments come before Parliament. Last week, the government admitted it will take at least three more years to fully implement the registry, or a total of 12 years after Parliament created it. The new timetable means the program will have cost at least $1.4-billion by then, said Conservative MP Garry Breitkreuz, who represents the Saskatchewan riding of Yorkton-Melville. The government originally promised the program would cost no more than $85-million. Mr. Gallaway was one of the most outspoken agitators for Mr. Martin during the years of Liberal infighting under Jean Chretien, and was given responsibility for democratic reform when Mr. Martin became Prime Minister a year ago. But Mr. Gallaway found himself back on the backbenches after Mr. Martin's re-election. Mr. Gallaway's biggest headlines during his time as parliamentary secretary came when he contradicted then-government House leader Jacques Saada as to whether a vote on an individual spending item such as the gun registry is a matter of confidence. Mr. Gallaway said the registry would be fair game, while Mr. Saada warned of an election should such a motion pass. At the time, the Liberals had a majority and the debate was moot. Now Mr. Gallaway is going to push his premise, confident Mr. Martin will not call an election over the registry. Mr. Gallaway said the government has had plenty of time to answer MPs' concerns about how the money is being spent, yet has failed to properly do so. "I think we're entitled to a real explanation and we really have to quit spending money in this fashion," he said. "We've had a lot of promises of change but I really don't have any time for those promises anymore. It's been nine years and it just keeps going. "It never stops." Mr. Saada's replacement in the House leader's office, Tony Valeri, said he wants to wait until tomorrow's deadline for such motions before deciding whether to threaten an election or not. In addition to the motion from Mr. Gallaway, the House will also have to deal with two changes made by MPs in the government operations committee, which surprised many by slashing $417,100 from the Governor-General's budget and $127,223 from the mighty Privy Council Office. In 2002, the Liberals capitulated to a Conservative motion blocking a $72-million funding request for the gun registry. It came on the heels of Auditor-General Sheila Fraser's blistering report describing the program as having the "largest cost overrun we've ever seen." But the Liberals argued they were only delaying the money in light of the Auditor-General's report, and put forward more funding at a later date. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2004 11:37:13 -0600 (CST) From: Breitkreuz@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca, Garry - Assistant 1 Subject: 6 décembre 1989 : la commémoration relance les débats sur le registre des armes à feu Sender: owner-cdn-firearms@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Precedence: normal Reply-To: cdn-firearms@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca PUBLICATION: Le Droit DATE: 2004.12.06 SECTION: Actualités PAGE: 17 SOURCE: PC DATELINE: Montréal - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---- 6 décembre 1989 : la commémoration relance les débats sur le registre des armes à feu - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---- Une marche commémorative sera tenue aujourd'hui à la Polytechnique de Montréal pour marquer le 15e anniversaire de la pire tuerie de l'histoire du Canada survenue le 6 décembre 1989. Quatorze secondes de silence seront observées à cette occasion pour rendre hommage aux 14 victimes du tueur, Marc Lépine, dont le crime a encouragé l'adoption d'une loi sur les armes à feu plus stricte et une plus grande sensibilisation face à la violence dans la société, à la violence conjugale, en particulier. La loi canadienne sur les armes à feu a été rendue possible principalement en raison des efforts des survivants et des parents des victimes des événements de la Polytechnique. Le controversé registre des armes à feu, un élément central de la loi, adopté il y a neuf ans, est devenu la cible des défenseurs des armes à feu après que la vérificatrice générale eut souligné que son coût se dirigeait vers le milliard de dollars. Des documents du gouvernement récemment obtenus par un député conservateur indiquent par ailleurs que le registre ne pourra être complètement opérationnel avant 2007, soit une douzaine d'années après avoir été approuvé par le Parlement. Jeudi, le comité des Communes sur la justice a rejeté une motion du député conservateur de la Saskatchewan, Garry Breitkreuz, visant à retirer 20 millions $ du budget du registre pour les transférer aux corps policiers. Et, jeudi prochain, le registre sera encore une fois mis à l'épreuve à l'occasion d'un vote des Communes sur les estimations gouvernementales du programme des armes à feu. M. Breitkreuz, le porte-parole de l'opposition officielle sur les armes à feu, a affirmé il y a quelques jours que l'argent mis sur le registre serait mieux utilisé s'il servait à la lutte contre le crime. "Nous savons depuis toujours que les criminels reconnus coupables et les individus dangereux constituent le véritable problème. Mais l'entière Loi sur les armes à feu vise la mauvaise cible, c'est-à-dire les chasseurs innocents respectueux des lois et les amateurs de tir." Les tenants de la ligne dure à l'égard des armes soutiennent que la loi et le registre sont efficaces, comme le sont les mécanismes de contrôle des armes d'assaut de type militaire et les chargeurs de grande capacité. Selon Wendy Cukier, la présidente de la Coalition pour le contrôle des armes à feu, les familles des victimes n'hésitent pas et n'ont jamais hésité à se battre pour le maintien de la loi et du registre. "Plusieurs d'entre eux voient cette législation comme un monument à la mémoire des jeunes femmes qui ont été tuées ce jour-là ; c'est ironique qu'ils doivent travailler si fort pour maintenir cette loi." Mme Cukier admet qu'une loi ne garantit pas qu'il n'y aura pas de tragédie. "Mais nous savons très clairement que là où il y a des lois sévères, l'éventualité que se produise un massacre comme celui de l'École Polytechnique est de beaucoup réduite." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2004 11:37:22 -0600 (CST) From: Breitkreuz@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca, Garry - Assistant 1 Subject: Canadians recall grim anniversary of rampage PUBLICATION: The Hamilton Spectator DATE: 2004.12.06 SECTION: Canada/world PAGE: A11 SOURCE: The Canadian Press BYLINE: Ross Marowits PHOTO: Photo: Richard Lam, the Canadian Press DATELINE: MONTREAL ILLUSTRATION: Rita Beiks and her son Beau place fruit atop a bench bearingAnne-Marie Edward's name at a memorial service yesterday in Vancouver. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---- Canadians recall grim anniversary of rampage - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---- Prime Minister Paul Martin said an act of mass murder at a Montreal university 15 years ago continues to have a profound impact across Canada. Yesterday, Vancouver residents built a peace symbol to remember the women killed by a gunman. "We were reminded that if we are to build a just society, we must work to end violence against women," Martin said in a statement out of Ottawa to mark today's grim anniversary. "As we observe a moment of silence and reflect on that terrible day 15 years ago, we think of the families of those 14 young Canadians. Together, let us honour the women lost that day by reaffirming our commitment to end violence against women." Family members of the women killed by Marc Lepine on Dec. 6, 1989, say that day unleashed efforts by survivors and relatives of victims to tighten Canada's gun laws, legislation that still faces challenges in the form of the contentious gun registry. Today, hundreds of Montrealers are expected to visit the scene of Lepine's rampage for this year's National Day of Remembrance and Action on Violence Against Women. Other ceremonies will be held across the country. The University of Lethbridge women's centre will hold a ceremony to commemorate the Montreal murders of fellow university students. In Edmonton, the Public Service Alliance of Canada will hold a workshop on dealing with violence against women. In Vancouver, British Columbia Lieutenant-Governor Iona Campagnolo will address one of more than a dozen workshops sponsored by Vancouver Rape Relief. About two dozen men and women held a vigil in a Vancouver park yesterday so people could visit during the next few days and see a peace symbol created out of branches and remember all women who have suffered violence. "The whole issue is so serious but we also wanted to find a way to make it comforting to be here and beautiful to be here," said organizer Christine McDowell. Among the participants was Elinor Warkentin, who got involved because she had been in an abusive relationship. "Peace in relationships is part of the answer to violence against women and that equality between men and women is part of the answer, and peace in the world is all inter-related," Warkentin said. - ------------------------------------------------ NOTE: On May 10, 1991, the Coroner's report for the Montreal massacre concluded: "The issue of firearms control has intentionally not been addressed. With the unlimited ammunition and time that Marc Lépine had available to him, he would probably have been able to achieve similar results even with a conventional hunting weapon, which itself is readily accessible. On the other hand, the importance of the questions raised in respect of pre-hospital care and police emergency response are matters that are worthy of our full attention." Teresa Z. Sourour, MD, FRCPC, Investigating Coroner. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2004 11:37:43 -0600 (CST) From: Breitkreuz@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca, Garry - Assistant 1 Subject: Editorial: AND ANOTHER THING ... PUBLICATION: The Toronto Sun DATE: 2004.12.06 EDITION: Final SECTION: Editorial/Opinion PAGE: 18 COLUMN: Editorial - --- AND ANOTHER THING ... ON THE 15th anniversary of the Montreal massacre, the good news is that Canada has never seen a repeat of such carnage, and that murders of women are down in general. The bad news? The gun registry it sparked is useless, and illegal guns proliferate on our streets. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2004 11:37:51 -0600 (CST) From: Breitkreuz@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca, Garry - Assistant 1 Subject: PM MARKS MONTREAL MASSACRE PUBLICATION: The Ottawa Sun DATE: 2004.12.06 EDITION: Final SECTION: News PAGE: 16 ILLUSTRATION: photo by Richard Lam, CP RITA BEIKS and her son Beau place some fruit on top of a bench in Vancouver ,B.C., that honours Montreal shooting victim Anne-Marie Edward. BYLINE: ROSS MAROWITS, CP DATELINE: MONTREAL - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---- PM MARKS MONTREAL MASSACRE MARTIN SAYS SOCIETY NEEDS TO END VIOLENCE - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---- An act of mass murder at a Montreal university 15 years ago continues to have a profound impact across Canada, Prime Minister Paul Martin said yesterday, as Vancouver residents built a peace symbol to remember the women killed by a gunman. "We were reminded that if we are to build a just society, we must work to end violence against women," Martin said in a statement out of Ottawa to mark today's grim anniversary. "As we observe a moment of silence and reflect on that terrible day 15 years ago, we think of the families of those 14 young Canadians. Together, let us honour the women lost that day by reaffirming our commitment to end violence against women." TOUGH MEASURES Family members of the women killed by Marc Lepine on Dec. 6, 1989, say that day unleashed efforts by survivors and relatives of victims to tighten Canada's gun laws, legislation that still faces challenges in the form of the contentious gun registry. Today, hundreds of Montrealers are expected to visit the scene of Lepine's rampage for this year's National Day of Remembrance and Action on Violence Against Women. Other ceremonies will be held across the country. The University of Lethbridge women's centre will hold a ceremony to commemorate the Montreal murders of fellow university students. In Edmonton, the Public Service Alliance of Canada will hold a workshop on dealing with violence against women. In Vancouver, British Columbia Lieut.-Gov. Iona Campagnolo will address one of more than a dozen workshops sponsored by Vancouver Rape Relief. - ---------------------------------------------------- NOTE: On May 10, 1991, the Coroner's report for the Montreal massacre concluded: "The issue of firearms control has intentionally not been addressed. With the unlimited ammunition and time that Marc Lépine had available to him, he would probably have been able to achieve similar results even with a conventional hunting weapon, which itself is readily accessible. On the other hand, the importance of the questions raised in respect of pre-hospital care and police emergency response are matters that are worthy of our full attention." Teresa Z. Sourour, MD, FRCPC, Investigating Coroner. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2004 11:38:05 -0600 (CST) From: Breitkreuz@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca, Garry - Assistant 1 Subject: GUN AMNESTY PLAN PUBLICATION: The Toronto Sun DATE: 2004.12.06 EDITION: Final SECTION: News PAGE: 22 ILLUSTRATION: photo of EDWARD SAPIANO Working to get guns off street BYLINE: BRETT STANDEN, TORONTO SUN - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ GUN AMNESTY PLAN LAWYERS SET UP PROGRAM TO GET ILLEGAL WEAPONS OFF THE STREETS - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ SIX TORONTO defence lawyers have developed a gun surrender program they believe will get more illegal guns off the street because it allows participants to remain anonymous. The program -- "Piece Options" -- protects the identity of donors from law enforcement officials. SHOWN TO WORK Lawyer Edward Sapiano, head of the group, said the program is legal and has been used before. "We are empowered as lawyers to create with an individual a private relationship that can't be pierced by the police," Sapiano said at a news conference yesterday at the Metropolitan Hotel. Sapiano and his colleagues formed "Piece Options" after an 11-year-old girl was shot on a Toronto bus. "We can't just sit on our hands and do nothing," Sapiano said. "Guns are pouring into the streets of our city from the United States and we are going to do our best to prevent it." Although the group has not received approval from Toronto Police for the program, Sapiano said the officers he has talked to all support it. "I have spoken to a number of police officers individually and all of them are enthusiastic about it," he said. "I couldn't imagine the police being opposed to the removal of firearms." Sapiano urged anyone with illegal firearms to call him at 416-214-9929 and arrange an appointment to bring them in. "Right now we have six lawyers involved. Soon we will have six hundred," he said. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2004 11:38:37 -0600 (CST) From: Breitkreuz@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca, Garry - Assistant 1 Subject: Calgary Herald Editorial: Wildly missing the target PUBLICATION: Calgary Herald DATE: 2004.12.06 EDITION: Final SECTION: The Editorial Page PAGE: A10 SOURCE: Calgary Herald - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Wildly missing the target - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Nobody robs a liquor store with an old .303. Instead, criminals tend to find inconvenient weapons that can't be stuffed into their baggies. So, to the police, knowing who owns them doesn't help much. On the other hand, police already know who is most likely to make criminal use of a handgun. The Liberal government, which now admits the total cost of its National Firearms Registry will exceed $1.4 billion, continues to evade this point, possibly in the belief that it can sanitize the registry by making honest gun owners pay for it. (Revenues are projected to rise from $16.5 million last year to $36.7 million in fiscal 2006-2007.) In any case, Ottawa should do a cost-benefit analysis based on the 2003 Statistics Canada Homicide Report. According to StatsCan, 69 per cent of adults accused of homicide that year had a criminal record. Meanwhile, half the 548 adult murder victims also had criminal records, some for murder. Thus, the bulk of Canadian murders look like the criminal world at war with itself. (Most of the rest, sadly, is domestic violence.) What part did long guns play? Of the 548, only 161 were shot. Of these -- criminals or not -- 109 were killed with handguns, but a mere 32 with rifles or shotguns. In fact, since the registry went live in 1998, a grand total of 284 people have been murdered in Canada with the long guns which all this money has been spent to register. Don't forget, Canada has had a handgun registry since 1934. It is thus in these 284 cases that the $1.4-billion registry could provide police with data they would not otherwise have had -- if these rifles and shotguns were registered -- but at an average cost of roughly $4.9 million per case. (In fact, only 15 were, so the cost per case is astronomical.) It beggars belief. In the urban ridings upon which the Liberals depend for their continued hegemony, the firearms registry may have great political value. But, as criminal justice expenditure, it is an absurd diversion of funds and effort. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2004 11:38:57 -0600 (CST) From: Breitkreuz@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca, Garry - Assistant 1 Subject: 28-year-old is facing 11 weapons, drugs and bail-related offences PUBLICATION: The Toronto Sun DATE: 2004.12.06 EDITION: Final SECTION: News PAGE: 22 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ FIREARM AND DRUGS SEIZED - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ A TORONTO man is facing several charges after police found a loaded gun, some pot and the drug Ecstasy in a car outside a Kingston Rd. motel Saturday. The 28-year-old is facing 11 weapons, drugs and bail-related offences. He allegedly led police on a foot chase after officers found the weapon on the floor of his car. The man was in the process of being arrested for drug possession outside the Montoro Motel around 10:20 p.m. Saturday when officers found the gun, police said. The man allegedly escaped police custody and fled on foot, but was later arrested by a canine officer, police said. Police recovered a loaded .357-calibre handgun, a small amount of Ecstasy and a small amount of marijuana. O'Neil Ramsay, 28, is charged. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2004 11:39:14 -0600 (CST) From: Breitkreuz@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca, Garry - Assistant 1 Subject: HELP SOUGHT TO NAB NOTORIOUS CROOKS PUBLICATION: The Calgary Sun DATE: 2004.12.06 EDITION: Final SECTION: News PAGE: 3 ILLUSTRATION: 1. photo of TERRANCE ERIC ELLIOTT 2. photo of DWAIN LAIRD 3. photo of MALCOLM SURESH GOBIN 4. photo of LUSTY McMASTER 5. photo of ROBERT JAMES FULK BYLINE: MIKE D'AMOUR, CALGARY SUN - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ FUGITIVES TOP COP WISH LIST HELP SOUGHT TO NAB NOTORIOUS CROOKS - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ They've been convicted of bank robberies, a cold-blooded killing and sexual assault. They are the baddest of the bad, they're all considered armed and dangerous and they're on the lam in Calgary. "Every one of these people is wanted on Canada-wide warrants," said police Const. Duane Lepchuk of the High Risk Offender Program (HROP) unit. One of the ex-cons, Malcolm Suresh Gobin, isn't even supposed to be in the country. "He was deported, but we believe he's back in Canada and in Calgary," Lepchuk said. If you see any of the five most-wanted men featured here, do not approach them. Call Crime Stoppers at 1-800-222-8477. Your anonymous tip that leads to an arrest could earn as much as a $2,000 cash reward. * Dwain Laird is a violent con who was released from Edmonton Nov. 7 after doing more than five years behind bars. He was jailed for assault, assault with a weapon, robbery with a firearm, forcible confinement and two counts of robbery -- all offences committed during an attack on a Calgary cabbie. Less than one month after he was let out, he went on the run from a halfway house. * Malcolm Suresh Gobin is a convicted killer who may now be walking Calgary streets. In 2000, Gobin was convicted of the 1998 manslaughter of Bradley Welton, 17. Gobin was at a party in Calgary when he and an accomplice made plans to get the victim alone so they could "teach him a lesson" because they believed Welton swiped a backpack. Gobin stabbed Welton twice, once in the chest and once in the side. Welton managed to stagger a short distance before he died as a result of his injuries. Gobin -- who has an extensive criminal history including theft and sexual assault convictions -- was deported from Canada after being released from Edmonton Institution. Both immigration officials and Correctional Services of Canada have issued arrest warrants for him. * Lusty McMaster left Edmonton Institution on statutory release. Now he's wanted because he didn't keep in touch with his parole officer. In 1996, McMaster held a knife to a gas station clerk's throat while another culprit pointed an imitation firearm at the same staffer. A third man snatched cash, smokes and food. Instead of just leaving with the booty, McMaster stayed long enough to stab the clerk in the chest. The con left his victim on the floor bleeding. * Robert James Fulk received a nine-year sentence for possession of an unregistered restricted weapon, robbery and two counts of robbery with a firearm. In 1999, Fulk and another culprit committed three separate offences in northern Alberta. Rifles were used in the robberies and, in one instance, a shot was fired which struck a victim in the arm. Fulk was released from Grand Cache Institution on day parole in June 2004. He hung in at the halfway house for a couple of months before he vanished. * Five years ago, cops credited Calgary Sun stories with helping nab Terrance Eric Elliott, a man wanted in connection with eight Calgary bank jobs, one where a victim was pepper-sprayed. Now they're looking for him because he's on the lam. Elliott was sentenced to seven-and-a-half years for the robberies and got out of Edmonton Institution on statutory release in August 2004. The following month, Elliott was declared unlawfully at large and a Canada-wide warrant was issued for his arrest. ------------------------------ End of Cdn-Firearms Digest V7 #600 ********************************** Submissions: mailto:cdn-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Mailing List Commands: mailto:majordomo@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Moderator's e-mail address: mailto:akimoya@cogeco.ca List owner: mailto:owner-cdn-firearms@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca FAQ list: http://www.magma.ca/~asd/cfd-faq1.html and http://teapot.usask.ca/cdn-firearms/Faq/cfd-faq1.html Web Site: http://teapot.usask.ca/cdn-firearms/homepage.html FTP Site: ftp://teapot.usask.ca/pub/cdn-firearms/ CFDigest Archives: http://www.sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca/~ab133/ or put the next command in an e-mail message and mailto:majordomo@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca get cdn-firearms-digest v04.n192 end (192 is the digest issue number and 04 is the volume) To unsubscribe from _all_ the lists, put the next five lines in a message and mailto:majordomo@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca unsubscribe cdn-firearms-digest unsubscribe cdn-firearms-alert unsubscribe cdn-firearms-chat unsubscribe cdn-firearms end (To subscribe, use "subscribe" instead of "unsubscribe".) 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