From: owner-can-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca (Cdn-Firearms Digest) To: cdn-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Subject: Cdn-Firearms Digest V7 #924 Reply-To: cdn-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Sender: owner-can-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Errors-To: owner-can-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Precedence: normal Cdn-Firearms Digest Monday, March 28 2005 Volume 07 : Number 924 In this issue: EDITOR (Absolutely.) STANDOFF WRAPS UP QUICKLY RCMP: Stolen firearms are "a great concern" to police MP's bill would create minimum sentences for crimes committed with white supremacist said he had the weapons because he was a hunter. Armed suspect subject to lifetime ban from using or owning any COLUMN: MARTIN PROMISES ONE THING THEN DOES ANOTHER LETTER OF THE DAY: MOUNTIES & GUN CONTROL PELLET GUN WAS TROUBLE Editorial: Stricter gun controls Man hit three times in shooting ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 09:18:32 -0600 (CST) From: Breitkreuz@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca, Garry - Assistant 1 Subject: EDITOR (Absolutely.) PUBLICATION: The Edmonton Sun DATE: 2005.03.27 EDITION: Final SECTION: Editorial/Opinion PAGE: 17 COLUMN: Letters to the Editor - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---- LETTERS TO THE EDITOR COLUMN - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---- RE: THE uneducated and close-minded March 21 editorial on the "crisis" of marijuana grow-ops (editorial, March 21). When is someone going to take a logical look at the marijuana business in this country? It's certainly not going to be the Edmonton Sun from the looks of things. So before you go off against decriminalization laws that some of us have been waiting for, and deserving, for years, learn a little more about what you are talking about, please. When you're ready to vote for making booze, cigarettes and VLTs illegal, then I'm on board against decriminalizing pot. Otherwise, equal rights for everyone's "harmless" vices please. Odessa Larmand (We are against VLTs.) RE: GREG Bowen's March 20 letter. I have another hypothetical situation to throw out there. What if the U.S. didn't have such liberal gun laws? Maybe James Roszko wouldn't have got his hands on illegal weapons that may have been smuggled from south of the border. I guess we'll never know. I believe that whether the gun registry existed or not, this event would have taken place. Furthermore, there is also no indication that more money and resources would have resulted in saving those officers' lives. The biggest issue I have about the gun registry is that we were lied to about the true cost. I seem to recall a number of $2 million thrown out there initially, but it has ballooned to numbers over a billion. Anyone in the private sector that would allow that kind of cost overrun would be fired on the spot. The cost benefit is way out of whack. Vince Leonty EDITOR (Absolutely.) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 09:18:43 -0600 (CST) From: Breitkreuz@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca, Garry - Assistant 1 Subject: STANDOFF WRAPS UP QUICKLY PUBLICATION: The Winnipeg Sun DATE: 2005.03.28 EDITION: Final SECTION: News PAGE: 5 BYLINE: SUN NEWS SERVICES COLUMN: News Briefs - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---- STANDOFF WRAPS UP QUICKLY - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---- Charges are pending against two St. Laurent-area youths following a short standoff with Mounties on Saturday. The incident began about 8 p.m., said RCMP spokesman Sgt. Steve Colwell, when two people were discovered in a residence by the owner. A verbal altercation ensued between the homeowner and the boys, age 15 and 17, who ran home and locked themselves inside. When they failed to respond to RCMP requests to leave, said Colwell, the Lundar detachment called in the Winnipeg-based emergency response unit. The teens gave up before the ERU unit arrived. A consent search of the home led to the discovery of three firearms stolen in the break in at the neighbour's house, said Colwell. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 09:19:11 -0600 (CST) From: Breitkreuz@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca, Garry - Assistant 1 Subject: RCMP: Stolen firearms are "a great concern" to police PUBLICATION: The Chronicle-Herald DATE: 2005.03.28 SECTION: Metro PAGE: B3 - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---- Help sought in break-in - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---- RCMP are seeking the public's help in solving a break-in last week in Cole Harbour in which thieves stole several rifles and shotguns. Thieves entered the underground parking area of the Caldwell Glen apartment complex at 154 Willowdale Dr. early Thursday, police said. The crooks went through 24 vehicles and broke into several storage lockers, getting away with the weapons and small items, police said. There were no security cameras in the underground garage, ATV News reported Saturday. "I don't like the idea that there's more guns on the street than there is already - there's more than enough," resident Jean Hann told ATV. RCMP Const. Gary Smith said stolen firearms are "a great concern" to police. "They could be used potentially for crimes," he said. Anyone with information is asked to contact the RCMP at 864-6000. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 09:19:31 -0600 (CST) From: Breitkreuz@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca, Garry - Assistant 1 Subject: MP's bill would create minimum sentences for crimes committed with knives Sender: owner-cdn-firearms@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Precedence: normal Reply-To: cdn-firearms@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca PUBLICATION: The Ottawa Sun DATE: 2005.03.28 EDITION: Final SECTION: News PAGE: 5 ILLUSTRATION: 2 photos 1. photo of PAULETTE MOFFITT Killer up for parole 2. photo of JUSTIN SCHWIEG Stabbed to death BYLINE: DAVE PIZER, OTTAWA SUN - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---- MOM RELIVES STAB HORROR FAMILY RENEWS CALL FOR TOUGHER LAWS AFTER KINGSTON KILLING - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---- WHEN PAULETTE Moffitt heard about the stabbing death of Queen's University football player Justin Schwieg last week, she relived the pain of losing her son Andy all over again. "When I hear (of) killings with knives, we just relive our own nightmare," Moffitt told the Sun. "It just devastates you that it happened again." Moffitt's son Andy, 23, was stabbed to death on Dec. 23, 1998, when he tried to break up a fight in the Coyote Bar in Ottawa. Henry Danninger was sentenced in March 2003 to five years for manslaughter in Andy's killing. He has a parole hearing scheduled April 19. Schwieg was stabbed once early Friday in the popular Kingston bar AJ's Hangar and died in hospital. Bruce Keno Elijah McKenzie, 26, turned himself in Saturday and faces a first-degree murder charge. In June, the Moffitt family sent a letter to about 400 parliamentarians, police organizations, lawyers and others to try and gain support for creating tougher laws for crimes committed with knives, including minimum sentences. Moffitt said the whole family worked on the letter-writing campaign. "We wanted something positive to work on and to make sure no other family goes through what we have gone through," she said. "And it would be something in his (Andy's) memory." 'THEY DON'T CARE' Moffitt said laws need to be stiffer to deter the use of knives. "Right now they don't care because they see Andy's case. This guy could be out on parole," said Moffitt. "So these people carrying knives have nothing to lose, they just have to look at what happened here." Moffitt's MP, Leeds-Grenville Conservative Gord Brown, took up the cause and plans to introduce a private members bill in April. The bill would create minimum sentences for crimes committed with knives that are the same as those for crimes committed with firearms. Manslaughter or attempted manslaughter with a knife, for example, would carry a minimum four-year sentence, Brown explained. "We've got two people, two young men, murdered in just a matter of a few years here in our region," said Brown. "I'm not saying that my bill would have saved their lives. However, the government needs to get tougher on criminals." When Moffitt heard about Schwieg's slaying, she encouraged Brown to bring his bill forward quickly. "How many more lives are we going to lose before we send out that message that knives kill?" dave.pizer@ott.sunpub.com - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- NEWS RELEASE - March 3, 2005 LIBERALS' TOTAL FOCUS ON GUNS IS MISGUIDED "Violent crimes involving firearms result in fewer injuries (and less serious injuries) than do violent crimes involving other kinds of weapons." http://www.garrybreitkreuz.com/breitkreuzgpress/guns136.htm WEAPONS USED IN CRIME IN 2003 http://www.garrybreitkreuz.com/publications/Article520.htm VIOLENT CRIMES INVOLVING FIREARMS: STATISTICS CANADA In 2000, 3% of all violent crime incidents were committed with firearms. http://www.garrybreitkreuz.com/publications/violentcrimesfirearms.htm STATISTICS CANADA TABLE: POLICE REPORTED CRIME IN CANADA, 1962-2003 http://www.garrybreitkreuz.com/publications/PoliceReportedCrimeinCanada1962- 2003.pdf 1962: 221 Violent Crimes per 100,000 people 2003: 963 Violent Crimes per 100,000 people 1962: 1,891 Property Crimes per 100,000 people 2003: 4,121 Property Crimes per 100,000 people 1962: 659 Other Crimes per 100,000 people 2003: 3,478 Other Crimes per 100,000 people 1962: 2,771 TOTAL CRIMINAL CODE OFFENCES PER 100,000 PEOPLE (Excluding Traffic Offences) 2003: 8,132 TOTAL CRIMINAL CODE OFFENCES PER 100,000 PEOPLE (Excluding Traffic Offences) CRIMINAL CODE INCIDENTS PER POLICE OFFICER STILL DOUBLE 1962 RATE Statistics Canada: Trends in Police Personnel and Expenditures, Canada, 1962-2002 http://www.garrybreitkreuz.com/publications/criminalcodeincidentsperpolice.p df ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 09:19:41 -0600 (CST) From: Breitkreuz@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca, Garry - Assistant 1 Subject: white supremacist said he had the weapons because he was a hunter. PUBLICATION: The London Free Press DATE: 2005.03.28 EDITION: Final SECTION: News PAGE: A3 ILLUSTRATION: photo of White supremacist Jason Ouwendyk has posted thispicture of himself on his website. BYLINE: RANDY RICHMOND, FREE PRESS REPORTER COLUMN: Hate in the Forest City TYPE : Special Report - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---- WHO ARE THEY JASON OUWENDYK - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---- Words, weapons and white supremacists go hand in hand. Case in point: London's Jason Ouwendyk. In 1998, Ouwendyk, a Brinks driver at the time, revealed confidential details of the armoured car company's operation to a fellow white supremacist. Police learned of the discussion in which Ouwendyk volunteered to drive a truck to Sarnia. They followed him that day by car and airplane, but nothing happened. A few days later, police raided Ouwendyk's residence. They found eight rifles and shotguns, a .38-calibre handgun, Nazi flags, a T-shirt from the Ku Klux Klan, an "88" shoulder patch (H is the eighth letter of the alphabet and 88 is shorthand for Heil Hitler). In court, Ouwendyk said he was just joking when he talked about the Brinks procedures. He admitted to being a white supremacist, but said he had the weapons because he was a hunter. The court ordered the weapons seized and banned Ouwendyk from owning firearms for five years. According to the court proceedings, Ouwendyk was a Guelph native studying sociology at the University of Western Ontario. Ouwendyk later was fired by Brinks. He admitted then that he was a member of the Northern Alliance, run at the time by Londoner Ralph Bergmann. Bergmann created the Northern Alliance in 1997, according to anti-hate activists. The Northern Alliance first gained public attention by organizing a "straight pride" protest at London's Gay Pride parades, a protest still held each year. Bergmann insisted the group was small and only interested in political discussions. Yet London police were adamant the Northern Alliance was an extremist group with ties to other right-wing groups. Eventually, Bergmann faded from public attention. His role as spokesperson, if not outright leader, fell to Ouwendyk. Ouwendyk also has maintained the Northern Alliance is a non-violent group "dedicated to the protection and advancement of the rights of Canadians of European descent." That means less immigration of non-whites and no interracial marriage or same-sex marriage. Ouwendyk is a frequent writer to The Free Press, espousing freedom of speech. He refused to be interviewed for this story. The Northern Alliance has not crossed the legal line into promoting hate, says Ottawa lawyer Richard Warman. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 09:19:57 -0600 (CST) From: Breitkreuz@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca, Garry - Assistant 1 Subject: Armed suspect subject to lifetime ban from using or owning any firearms Sender: owner-cdn-firearms@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Precedence: normal Reply-To: cdn-firearms@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca PUBLICATION: The StarPhoenix (Saskatoon) DATE: 2005.03.28 EDITION: Final SECTION: News PAGE: A2 SOURCE: CanWest News Service DATELINE: VANCOUVER - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---- Police look for suspect following crime spree - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---- VANCOUVER (CNS) -- Police were still looking Sunday night for a British Columbia man they believe to be armed and dangerous after a bizarre crime spree earlier in the day. A warrant has been issued for Cecil Henry Jones of Maple Ridge, who is accused of abducting his 18-month-old daughter from her relatives' Burnaby, B.C., home, then taking her across town to her mother's apartment. There in the apartment, the family allegedly wrestled the baby away from him and called police when they discovered he was carrying a high-powered shotgun. Jones is subject to a court-imposed lifetime ban from using or owning any firearms. By the time police arrived, the distraught 28-year-old man had barricaded himself inside the building and refused to co-operate when contacted by officers on a cellphone. Jones then allegedly set fire to a second-floor unit, forcing at least nine tenants in adjoining suites to evacuate early Sunday morning. RCMP Cpl. Pierre Lemaitre said the baby was unharmed during the altercation. In the midst of the turmoil, Jones allegedly escaped from police, evading the Emergency Response Team officers who neighbours said surrounded the building and levelled their rifles at the house. - --------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 09:21:22 -0600 (CST) From: Breitkreuz@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca, Garry - Assistant 1 Subject: COLUMN: MARTIN PROMISES ONE THING THEN DOES ANOTHER PUBLICATION: The Calgary Sun DATE: 2005.03.28 EDITION: Final SECTION: Editorial/Opinion PAGE: 15 BYLINE: EZRA LEVANT - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---- THE GREAT PRETENDER MARTIN PROMISES ONE THING THEN DOES ANOTHER - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---- Who was the more anti-Alberta prime minister, Jean Chretien or Paul Martin? It's a tough call. Both slapped Alberta voters in the face by appointing their own friends as Alberta's senators, instead of respecting the results of Alberta's 1998 and 2004 elections on the matter. Both men support the Kyoto Protocol -- a foreign treaty that would crush Alberta's oil patch, but that now contains a special exemption for auto plants in Liberal ridings in Ontario and Quebec. Both love the firearms registry that has turned hundreds of thousands of law-abiding Albertans into criminals and violates the rural lifestyle. Both approved of schemes to enrich Quebecers, first through the billion-dollar HRDC boondoggle, then through AdScam. Both put the softwood lumber and beef bans on the political backburner, preferring to waste our political capital with the U.S. by pointlessly snubbing the U.S. on military cooperation matters. So who's worse -- Chretien or Martin? Martin is. Because at least Chretien never pretended to care about the West. He was a cad, but he was honest about it, honest about his biases and his contempt. (The press calls that endearing, as when he showed his contempt before Judge Gomery's inquiry into Adscam.) Martin, on the other hand, pretends to care. He actually claimed on national television last year that resolving Western alienation would be one of the two major criteria by which he would judge the success of his administration. Chretien didn't bother to visit Calgary during an entire election campaign. Martin came to Calgary and was quite showy about it. Part of that is a character flaw in Martin -- no matter what you ask him, no matter what point of view you put forward, he will answer as if he agrees with you. That is not just a complaint from disgruntled Westerners. Liberal MPs report the same thing. The man is genetically incapable of disagreeing with someone when he looks them in the eye. Trouble is, he does the same thing with the next and opposite complaint, too. After promising everything to everyone, he then does what he and his tiny inner circle wanted to do all along. Chretien had the guts to appoint his senators in 1998, just weeks before the Alberta vote. He stuck his thumb right in our eye. Martin didn't have that courage -- he waited until a few months after the 2004 Senate elections and made his anti-Alberta announcement from Ottawa last week. Chretien was well-known for his hostility to the U.S., especially to Republicans. His opposition to the Iraq war was unsurprising. Martin, on the other hand, said repairing the Canada-U.S. relationship, so vital to Western Canadians, was a high priority. Then he opposed the ballistic missile defence plan that he had previously supported. Issue after issue, Martin pretends to be different, then disappoints. Chretien always took care of his buddies on the public purse. Martin claimed he was going to ameliorate the "democratic deficit." But then he appointed a raft of unqualified friends to high office, including Art Eggleton who had to resign from cabinet after steering a five-figure government contract to a girlfriend. Chretien never pretended to be clean. Martin did. Jean Chretien hated us and didn't hide that fact. He hated Senate reform. He hated the West. And he didn't pretend to love us during election time. And the feeling was mutual. Martin? He didn't have courage to tell us how he really felt about us until after election time was over. I'll take an honest enemy over a false friend. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 09:21:36 -0600 (CST) From: Breitkreuz@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca, Garry - Assistant 1 Subject: LETTER OF THE DAY: MOUNTIES & GUN CONTROL PUBLICATION: The Winnipeg Sun DATE: 2005.03.27 EDITION: Final SECTION: Comment PAGE: C21 COLUMN: Letter of the Day - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---- LETTER OF THE DAY COLUMN - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---- MOUNTIES & GUN CONTROL I would like to know whether or not the RCMP made a Registry request for info about the presence of guns at the Roszko property before they went in there? The way I see it, there are three possibilities: 1) They knew he was prohibited so they did not make an info request. They then went in unfortunately unprepared despite foreknowledge of his nature and the allegations by townspeople that he had several illegal guns; 2) They did make a request, but the system told them that he was prohibited and therefore had no guns. They then made the fatal error of staking their lives on this information, and; 3) The system told them that there were in fact guns there, but they went in casually despite knowing his demeanor, and suffered the violent consequences of trusting him to not be there simply because they had not seen him. We lawful gun owners have been saying for years that the Firearms Act as written is worse than useless and that it would lead to increases in violence and death, not reductions. This is because it spends all its time focussing its attention on the several million harmless law-abiding sportsmen and women who pursue excellence in the shooting sports while totally ignoring the 150,000 known violent offenders under gun prohibition orders. They are neither tracked nor checked up on, but we certainly are! While it may be possible for the Liberals to deny the rising tide of inner city gun violence taking place while the registry continues to ineffectually flush hundreds of millions of our dollars down the toilet every year, they simply can't hide the fact that in this case their precious Firearms Act did nothing to prevent tragedy, and has quite possibly significantly set the stage for it. M.J. Ackermann, MD (Mike) Rural Family Physician, Sherbrooke, N.S. EDITOR: The gun control money would be better spent on policing. - ---------------------------------------------------- FIREARMS COMMISSIONER BILL BAKER ADMITS: 176,000 PERSONS PROHIBITED FROM OWNING GUNS "NO LONGER EFFECTIVELY COVERED BY FIREARMS ACT." http://www.garrybreitkreuz.com/publications/Article473.htm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 09:21:46 -0600 (CST) From: Breitkreuz@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca, Garry - Assistant 1 Subject: PELLET GUN WAS TROUBLE PUBLICATION: The Edmonton Sun DATE: 2005.03.28 EDITION: Final SECTION: News PAGE: 4 - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---- PELLET GUN WAS TROUBLE - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---- Two teens were arrested and charged with weapons and drug offences after a high-risk takedown in Grande Prairie on Friday. Grande Prairie Mounties responded to that city's south side after someone complained about several young men in a vehicle with a handgun. Cops moved in on the vehicle near Queen Elizabeth II Hospital and arrested and charged an 18-year-old from Wembley and a 19-year-old from Beaverlodge. The firearm turned out to be a pellet gun. The teens will appear in court later this month. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 09:22:15 -0600 (CST) From: Breitkreuz@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca, Garry - Assistant 1 Subject: Editorial: Stricter gun controls PUBLICATION: Times Colonist (Victoria) DATE: 2005.03.27 EDITION: Final SECTION: Monitor/Comment PAGE: D2 SOURCE: Capital Times, Madison, Wis. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---- Stricter gun controls - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---- It would be easy to suggest that the primary response to the latest school shooting incident -- the slaying of nine people and the wounding of seven others at a school on the Red Lake Indian Reservation in Minnesota by a student who then killed himself -- should be a move to impose stricter controls on access to guns. That is what the National Rifle Association and other advocates for the gun industry fear. Even before the blood had dried, gun advocates were busy claiming that guns should not be blamed for the high body count. Of course, they were wrong. It is beyond absurd to suggest that the two pistols and the shotgun the teen killer had armed himself with played no role in the level of death and destruction. It is also absurd to suggest that reasonable gun controls do not have a place in reducing violence. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 09:22:27 -0600 (CST) From: Breitkreuz@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca, Garry - Assistant 1 Subject: Man hit three times in shooting PUBLICATION: Toronto Star DATE: 2005.03.28 SECTION: News PAGE: B03 BYLINE: Megan Ogilvie - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---- Man hit three times in shooting - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---- A 33-year-old man is in serious condition in hospital after being shot three times yesterday afternoon in the Jane-Finch area of Toronto. Police were called to 388 Driftwood Ave. about 3 p.m. and found the man with wounds to his hip, arm and groin. He was taken to Sunnybrook hospital. As police canvassed the area looking for witnesses, people in nearby apartment buildings peered out of windows and looked over balconies. But many of the homes appeared empty. Some people heard the shots, but the normally busy neighbourhood was quiet, said Det. Jim Carter at the scene. "No one was around on Easter Sunday to see anything," he said. "Apparently the victim met up with some acquaintances." Police are looking for up to five suspects who fled the scene, Carter said. A pile of the victim's clothes - black running shoes, dark blue denim pants, a blue shirt - and scattered bullet casings marked where the shooting took place. After hearing gunshots, customers at Tadmore Variety, across the street from the shooting scene, ran back into the store, said Ken, an employee who would not give his last name. 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