From: owner-can-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca (Cdn-Firearms Digest) To: cdn-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Subject: Cdn-Firearms Digest V8 #197 Reply-To: cdn-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Sender: owner-can-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Errors-To: owner-can-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Precedence: normal Cdn-Firearms Digest Thursday, July 7 2005 Volume 08 : Number 197 In this issue: Letter to National Post (unpub) ... Re: Aid to Africa My letter to the National Post McLELLAN'S , "iris scan unsuccessful." TWICE Police arrested a 68-year-old man yesterda Letter: short-sighted socialist-liberal agenda 207 reports of robbery or assault on the SkyTrain system Belleville bust yields drugs, guns, ammo Evaded police for several weeks (but released again) Weapon found Suspect sought after gun firing Teen arrested in shooting; How bad is the state of equipment in the Canadian Forces? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 07:26:14 -0600 (CST) From: "Robert S. Sciuk" Subject: Letter to National Post (unpub) ... Gun Registry Works ... (fwd) Dear Sir/Madame, As I read the front section of the post I am struck by the articles on page A-10 and A-11 describing firearm related homicides involving inner city teens in three separate incidents. I don't suppose the firearms used in these crimes were registered, or surely the gunmen would have by now been tracked down. While Roy Cullen cannot be blamed for doing the job he is told to do, one might think that he would at least trot out some statistics that haven't been around the block as many times as the ones he quotes have. The measures which actually increase public safety were in place prior to the Liberal's 1995 introduction of the Canadian Firearms Act, with its controversial registry program. The mandatory registry provisions did not come into full force until 2003 given the amnesty after amnesty the government was forced to give conscientious objectors amoung the responsible firearms community, and ultimately compliance has been less than stellar. Amoung the criminal firearms owners, I fear compliance is quite a bit lower. Having said this, the Firearms Act and its Duck-gun Registry is most certainly having an effect. The problem is, the effect is only on $2 Billion of our tax dollars rather than on violent crime. Pity. Sincerely, Robert S. Sciuk Oshawa, Ont. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 07:27:33 -0600 (CST) From: "mred" Subject: Re: Aid to Africa - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lee Jasper" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 11:00 PM > Ross said: > >> Lets start the letters to the MP and Martin and his Deputy > > Rick commented: > >> Until you figure out a way to win a significant amount of voter >> sympathy, you are going to continue being irrelevant. >> >> And you aren't going to win a majority of public sympathy by raving >> about "kanukistanis" and equating police to Nazis in Germany. > > The TV News announced on the week-end that Martin had received 12,000 - > Help the Africans Emails - in response to the Live-8 broadcast. It was reported live on the news the other day: "That most of the money sent to Africa and the less fortunate countries in the world goes to the ruling class.In other words the dictators skim most of the money off the donations." One government official reportedly skimmed 20% off the money sent to his country ....where the rest went ? who knows ? but it was evident it never reached the people who needed it.. On another note as reported on CTV or CBC the goods and money sent for the Tsunami relief was mostly locked up and guarded by government troops and employees in Indonesia (this is one instance )meanwhile the people that were starving to death were outside the fences clamoring for relief supplies and food. The excuse of the officials in charge ?> "these people haven't proved they REALLY need the help.." This was recorded on TV tape. Also reported :The relief agencies refused to go to villages that were a few miles from the coast of Indonesia. that had been ravaged by the Tsunami,? because the media would NOT travel to these villages was not there to film their efforts.This applied to ALL relief agencies. The only agency doing humanitarian work away from the media and the coast was a Russian Dr. and his team. In my opinion the Live -8 concert was nothing more than a publicity stunt for the participants?. they couldn't BUY the free publicity they got at this show. And who knows how much money was sent to MORE African dictators? Now if they REALLY wanted to do something useful ? why not put on a live show for the poor in Canada ? after all charity begins at home ? or does it ?But then there would be no publicity would there ? 20% of Canadian children go to school hungry as reported by stats Canada. ed/ontario ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:14:26 -0600 (CST) From: "Bruce Mills" Subject: My letter to the National Post Just submitted, not yet printed. Have you written a letter today? - ----- Original Message ----- From: Bruce Mills To: Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 10:33 AM Subject: Re: Gun registry works Being a Liberal, I guess Roy Cullen can't help but to propegate and prop up the party line on his $2 billion failed firearms fiasco by continuing to spew their mindless and meaningless statistics. Cullen states that "Since December, 1998, approximately 14,000 individual firearms licences have been refused or revoked by Chief Firearms Officers". That's all well and good, until you look a little closer. That's only 1,750 per year; compared to the 2 million license holders, that is statistically minuscule and meaningless. It also proves nothing, other than the vast majority of legitimate gun owners are actually law-abiding - as we have been saying all along. Although Cullen runs down a list of some of the reasons why a license might be refused, there are no statistics that show specifically how many licenses have been revoked for what reason. Also, his number probably includes "paperwork errors", that have been resolved through revisions or through court appeal hearings. Of course, simply having a license refused or revoked in no way prevents anyone from subsequently going out and obtaining a gun illegally and then using it for illegal purposes. Cullen himself admits to this, albeit surruptitionsly, by saying that these people are "no longer allowed to *legally* possess or acquire firearms and ammunition" (emphasis mine). As far as police having made 3.6 million queries since 1998, how many of these are actually front line, cops in cars queries, and how many are bums in chairs, CFO paper pushing queries? If any of these are from cops in cars, how many are of the routine "papers, please" inquiries that law abiding firearms owners are forced to comply with? How many of these inquiries result in arrests, charges, convictions, revocations or confiscations? How many of these inquiries are simply people trying to comply with this convoluted law by clearing up the estimate 132% error rate in the registration system? How many are multiple queries that these attempts most surely generate? Not all "queries" are equal. Cullen also plays fast and loose with the monetary figures. His claims of "only" $15 milion for the "registry" is really just the funding for the actual, physical registry - he doesn't include all the other costs from all the other Departments that go towards trying to make this boondoggle "work". Just this past session, the Liberals voted to pour $82.2 million more down this black hole - that's almost as much as Alan Rock said the whole program would cost. And that's just the tip of the iceberg! Cullen is playing semantic games - he is being disengenuous at best, and decietful at worst. All of these statistics have been thoroughy challenged and debunked through Questions in the House, or through Access to Information Act requests. Time and again, the response is "We don't know" or "No records on that are kept" or "It's a Cabinet Secret". Without some kind of concrete answers, not to mention results, this amounts to nothing more than bureaucratic busywork. And bureaucratic "busywork" does not equate with being "effective". Correlation is not Causation. Cullen has "proved" nothing. This Liberal propaganda must not continue to go unchallenged. Yours in Liberty, Bruce Hamilton Ontario - -- "It is not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself." - From The Declaration of Arbroath, 1320. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:16:10 -0600 (CST) From: Breitkreuz@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca, Garry - Assistant 1 Subject: McLELLAN'S , "iris scan unsuccessful." TWICE PUBLICATION: The Edmonton Sun DATE: 2005.07.07 EDITION: Final SECTION: News PAGE: 12 ILLUSTRATION: photo by Walter Tychnowicz, Edmonton Sun Deputy Prime Minister Anne McLellan shakes the paw of obliging cop dog Badge at the international airport yesterday. BYLINE: MAX MAUDIE, EDMONTON SUN - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ANNIE KEEPS AN EYE OUT DEMONSTRATES AIRPORT CUSTOMS IRIS SCANNER - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ For a moment yesterday, it seemed officials at the Edmonton International Airport were dealing with an Anne McLellan impostor. The deputy prime minister was at the airport to launch its CANPASS Air system, a high-tech system designed to give users quicker passage through customs when returning to Canada. McLellan stared into a retinal scanner, which compared her eye with a previous scan of her eye that was registered with the CANPASS system. After a moment, the machine's computerized voice declared, "iris scan unsuccessful." Twice. It turned out the woman at the scanner really was Anne McLellan - the problem was caused by media photographers' flashing cameras, which were messing with the machine's view of her eye. The program - that costs users $50 per year - requires a rigorous security clearance check and an interview with a Canadian Border Service Agency (CBSA) officer. Users' eligibility is reviewed annually and is open to citizens and permanent residents of both Canada and America. Upon landing in Canada, users don't need to wait in long customs lines to talk to often-grumpy customs agents. Instead, they hit up the machine for their iris scan, are issued a receipt and head for home. McLellan is a member, and she recalled the security check. "Oh my gosh," she said. "Is their something in my past? Have I paid all my parking tickets? Who knows?" She assured reporters she had. CANPASS users will be spot-checked and still need to complete customs declarations cards. The system at the Edmonton airport cost $167,000 to set up. CANPASS was launched nationwide two years ago with a startup cost of $18 million. Edmonton International is the seventh airport in Canada to get the system. Ottawa's Macdonald-Cartier International Airport will be the next site for the system. Kids under 18 years of age won't be charged to join the program. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:17:05 -0600 (CST) From: Breitkreuz@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca, Garry - Assistant 1 Subject: Police arrested a 68-year-old man yesterda PUBLICATION: The Daily News (Halifax) DATE: 2005.07.07 SECTION: Local News PAGE: 4 BYLINE: - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---- Dartmouth - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---- Police arrested a 68-year-old man yesterday after seizing three firearms from his home. Officers surrounded his Eisener Boulevard house about 10 a.m., after a family member called and said he was distraught. The man emerged after officers' second phone call, about 10:48 a.m., and was sent to hospital for mental- health assessment. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:17:21 -0600 (CST) From: Breitkreuz@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca, Garry - Assistant 1 Subject: Letter: short-sighted socialist-liberal agenda PUBLICATION: The Edmonton Sun DATE: 2005.07.07 EDITION: Final SECTION: Editorial/Opinion PAGE: 10 COLUMN: Letters to the Editor RE: "NOT gun-shy," July 1. Sandra Bromley's work is an excellent representation of the short-sighted socialist-liberal agenda. Perhaps if they focused on people, and how to overcome violence because of poverty and drugs, then their work might actually have an effect. The firearms in her work, if functional, loaded and with the safeties off, would be no more dangerous that the deactivated guns in her work, without a person to pull the trigger. Lionel Trudel EDITOR (It got you fired up.) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:17:30 -0600 (CST) From: Breitkreuz@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca, Garry - Assistant 1 Subject: 207 reports of robbery or assault on the SkyTrain system PUBLICATION: The Province DATE: 2005.07.07 EDITION: Final SECTION: News PAGE: A4 BYLINE: Frank Luba SOURCE: The Province ILLUSTRATION: Colour Photo: Jason Payne, The Province / People linger at amemorial for murder victim Matthew Martins, who was killed at Surrey Central Station on Saturday morning. The station has been plagued by a recent outbreak of violence. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---- Fight transit crime with . . . turnstiles?: Says crackdown on fare evasion will keep out criminal element - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---- TransLink chairman Doug McCallum wants turnstiles installed in RAV line stations when they are built to fight crime in the transit system. The Surrey mayor said he is concerned that people believe SkyTrain is crime-infested since the recent outbreak of violence that included three assaults and a death over the Canada Day weekend at Surrey Central SkyTrain station and bus loop. Since January, there have been 207 reports of robbery or assault on the SkyTrain system, compared to 208 incidents in the last half of 2004. Of this year's totals, 11 of the incidents were robberies and the other 196 were assaults, including 22 assaults causing bodily harm. SkyTrain had total ridership of 32 million in that period. "I'm convinced enough that we have a perception problem here on SkyTrain," said McCallum. He said enforcing fare payment will help keep the criminal element off the trains. "RAV is a perfect example where we can start at Square 1 and have our stations designed for gated [systems] and it will save us an awful lot of money," said McCallum. But McCallum said TransLink won't add more security at Surrey Central Station other than the two security guards who were added this week in response to the latest attacks. In the fall, the transit system will gain a full police force, trained to carry firearms and with more policing powers than the current transit officers. The two guards aren't enough for Tina Martins, the aunt of Matthew Martins, who died after being beaten early Saturday at Surrey Central. Martins said her nephew had been at the fireworks display in Cloverdale and missed the last SkyTrain, which departed at 12:38 a.m. He was waiting for the next bus to Vancouver, which was not until 3:22 a.m. "We're going to be fighting with TransLink for better security in the near future in the name of our nephew," said Martins. "It's a little too late for our family, but I'll be damned if my nephew died in vain," she said. "If we save even one teenager on the streets, that's all the better for us, for another family not to have to go though what we're going to be going through for the rest of our lives." A trust fund has been set up to pay for Matthew Martins' funeral, with any additional money raised going to Children's Hospital. Donations can be made at any TD or Canada Trust bank by citing branch number 9280 and account number 6343916. n Allan Thomas Handley, 18, was charged yesterday with one count of aggravated assault in relation to the beating of a 35-year-old man Monday morning at Surrey Central station. The victim remains in critical condition in hospital. fluba@png.canwest.com - - - - What do you think? Give us your comments by fax at 604-605-2223, or by e-mail at provletters@png.canwest.com. Be sure to spell out your first and last names and give your hometown. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:17:39 -0600 (CST) From: Breitkreuz@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca, Garry - Assistant 1 Subject: Belleville bust yields drugs, guns, ammo PUBLICATION: The Kingston Whig-Standard DATE: 2005.07.07 EDITION: Final SECTION: Community PAGE: 8 SOURCE: The Whig-Standard - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---- Belleville bust yields drugs, guns, ammo - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---- Three men and a woman were charged after police seized drugs, weapons and ammunition from a Belleville home. A Project Longarm joint-forces team found cocaine, crack, marijuana plants and growing equipment, as well as 11 firearms and an "abundance" of ammunition, police said. Keith Connors, 45, Brian Hill, 31, Gerald Lalonde, 26, and Suzanne Cain, 52, all of Belleville, face numerous drug and firearms charges. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:17:59 -0600 (CST) From: Breitkreuz@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca, Garry - Assistant 1 Subject: Evaded police for several weeks (but released again) PUBLICATION: Cape Breton Post DATE: 2005.07.07 SECTION: Northside/Victoria PAGE: B4 DATELINE: Sydney - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---- Man to stand trial on host of offences - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---- A West Arichat man is scheduled to stand trial July 25 on host of charges after being released from custody Wednesday. Sheldon Vaughan Leroy, 35, of West Arichat, is charged with assault causing bodily harm; assault with a weapon, a screwdriver; possession of a dangerous weapon, a handgun; five counts of uttering threats and single counts of unlawfully entry; pointing a firearm, carrying a concealed weapon and committing an assault while threatening to use a weapon, a handgun. Among the conditions of his release, Leroy is to keep the peace and not possess any weapons and have no contact with the alleged victims in the case. Leroy was arrested last December on a Canada-wide warrant after evading police for several weeks. He said he was prepared to turn himself in, provided he could continue his methadone treatment program while being held at the Cape Breton Correctional Centre. At the time, the centre was not equipped to handle such inmates. Leroy was subsequently sent to a federal prison and was released from custody Wednesday. At the time Leroy is alleged to have committed the offences for which he'll stand trial, he was on statutory release from a federal prison where he was serving time for car theft. His release was revoked and he served the remaining 11 months of his sentence. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:18:23 -0600 (CST) From: Breitkreuz@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca, Garry - Assistant 1 Subject: Weapon found PUBLICATION: Edmonton Journal DATE: 2005.07.07 EDITION: Final SECTION: CityPlus/Alberta PAGE: B4 COLUMN: CityPlus Digest SOURCE: CanWest News Service DATELINE: EDMONTON - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---- Weapon found - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---- EDMONTON - Police are examining a firearm found in Mill Creek ravine to see whether it was the same weapon used to kill a convenience store worker last month. The weapon is similar to the shotgun used in the June 17 shooting and robbery at Mac's Convenience Store at 4412 36th Ave. The firearm was found last week, police spokeswoman Lisa Lammi said Wednesday. Dilbag Singh Sandhu, 29, was shot in the abdomen and died shortly after arriving at University Hospital. The second worker, a 63-year-old man, was taken to the hospital for a medical condition that developed during the shooting. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:18:33 -0600 (CST) From: Breitkreuz@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca, Garry - Assistant 1 Subject: Suspect sought after gun firing PUBLICATION: Calgary Herald DATE: 2005.07.07 EDITION: Final SECTION: City & Region PAGE: B9 SOURCE: Calgary Herald - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---- Suspect sought after gun firing - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---- Police are searching for a man suspected of shooting a gun during an argument in Dover last month. Warrants have been issued for the arrest of Jeremy McLellan, 26. The warrants are on charges of assault with a weapon and discharging a firearm with intent. On June 15, an argument broke out on the street at Dover Ridge Drive and Dover Ridge Bay S.E. Neighbours tending to their yards watched as several shots were fired from a handgun. McLellan is described as a Caucasian man with hazel eyes, light brown hair, five foot nine and 165 pounds. He has multiple tattoos on each hand and his upper left arm. McLellan is considered armed and dangerous. The public is warned not to approach McLellan, but to contact the Calgary Police Service at 266-1234 or call Crime Stoppers at 1-800-222-TIPS (8477). ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:18:45 -0600 (CST) From: Breitkreuz@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca, Garry - Assistant 1 Subject: Teen arrested in shooting; PUBLICATION: The Toronto Star DATE: 2005.07.07 EDITION: ONT SECTION: News PAGE: B4 BYLINE: Betsy Powell SOURCE: Toronto Star - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---- Teen arrested in shooting; Victim tried to defend friend Police call murder 'cowardly act' - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---- A 15-year-old male has been charged with first-degree murder in last month's shooting of a man who had stepped in to help a teenage friend being harassed by two other young men in Scarborough. Police describe the killing as a cowardly and unprovoked act. Police are still looking for a second suspect in the June 12 shooting of Duane Carlos David, 33. David was gunned down in a laneway around 1 45 a.m. behind Pataya Cafe and Restaurant, at 2879 Danforth and Kelvin Aves., just west of Victoria Park Ave. After David intervened, the altercation appeared to have ended. "Everyone thought it was all over. All three went their separate ways. "It appeared it had been finished," homicide Det. Sgt. Rudy Pasini said during the initial investigation. But it wasn't. "The shooter felt dissed and this was the manner in which he wanted to end this," Pasini added. But within seconds, the duo returned on bikes. One had a handgun and opened fire, police said. David's father, Hollis David, held a press conference calling on the gunman to give himself up. Under the Youth Criminal Justice Act, the identity of the accused cannot be made public. Both the victim and his 16-year-old friend lived in the area, police said. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:18:55 -0600 (CST) From: Breitkreuz@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca, Garry - Assistant 1 Subject: How bad is the state of equipment in the Canadian Forces? DATE: 2005.07.06 CATEGORY: National general news PUBLICATION: cpw - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---- An editorial from the Red Deer Advocate, published July 6 - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---- How bad is the state of equipment in the Canadian Forces? It's so bad that army commanders have to rent equipment from commercial paintball businesses for their soldiers to simulate live-fire training exercises. Last winter, recently disclosed documents reveal, the Canadian army practised helicopter evacuations from a hostile city setting. Griffon helicopters ferried troops from Halifax to a building in Dartmouth N.S., where their goal was to conduct room-to-room searches under enemy fire. Urban warfare is becoming more commonplace and deadly, as the bloody American experience in Iraq attests. It is exceedingly dangerous work. It demands courageous, concerted teamwork and absolute confidence in your equipment. In any decently equipped army, that training would let soldiers use their own weapons and shoot practice ammunition. These rounds, Simunition, fire powder balls at low speed. They leave a harmless mark on the intended victim. But Simunition tells soldiers and commanders whether they are sufficiently skilled and trained to fire accurately in life-or-death situations. The Canadian soldiers involved in this exercise could not fully simulate the dangerous kind of work they may be called on to perform in defence of our nation or during international peacekeeping operations. The Canadian army did not have enough Simunition for them to shoot. Instead, it rented commercial paintball guns, helmets and neck protectors in Nova Scotia. The paintball exercise was not totally useless. There's no doubt that soldiers could learn how to move properly through an enemy-occupied building and commanders could draw lessons from it to plan, train and carry out real missions in future. But without proper equipment, the soldiers can never claim to be fully trained, which will affect their confidence and decision making in hostile missions. Canadian soldiers don't need to become experts at shooting paintballs. Lives may depend on the ability to shoot their rifles and machine-guns accurately on split-second notice. It's shameful that our government lacks the will to ensure that they have the tools to be properly trained. And it is political will, not resources, that are missing. As world leaders begin meeting in Scotland today, Canada is the only G-8 member that can boast of running successive budgetary surpluses. Surely our leaders can use some of that surplus to properly outfit the men and women who put their lives on the line for Canada. Paint them red-faced. Joe McLaughlin is managing editor of the Advocate. ------------------------------ End of Cdn-Firearms Digest V8 #197 ********************************** Submissions: mailto:cdn-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Mailing List Commands: mailto:majordomo@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Moderator's e-mail address: mailto:akimoya@cogeco.ca List owner: mailto:owner-cdn-firearms@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca FAQ list: http://www.magma.ca/~asd/cfd-faq1.html and http://teapot.usask.ca/cdn-firearms/Faq/cfd-faq1.html Web Site: http://teapot.usask.ca/cdn-firearms/homepage.html FTP Site: ftp://teapot.usask.ca/pub/cdn-firearms/ CFDigest Archives: http://www.sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca/~ab133/ or put the next command in an e-mail message and mailto:majordomo@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca get cdn-firearms-digest v04.n192 end (192 is the digest issue number and 04 is the volume) To unsubscribe from _all_ the lists, put the next five lines in a message and mailto:majordomo@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca unsubscribe cdn-firearms-digest unsubscribe cdn-firearms-alert unsubscribe cdn-firearms-chat unsubscribe cdn-firearms end (To subscribe, use "subscribe" instead of "unsubscribe".) 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