From: owner-can-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca (Cdn-Firearms Digest) To: cdn-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Subject: Cdn-Firearms Digest V8 #231 Reply-To: cdn-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Sender: owner-can-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Errors-To: owner-can-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Precedence: normal Cdn-Firearms Digest Monday, July 18 2005 Volume 08 : Number 231 In this issue: Homicides suspected outside of Cornwall Early morning shooting at nightclub investigated TORONTO POLICE BLOTTER: THE WEEK IN CRIME: Letter to National Post (unpub) ... re: British Colonial History in South Africa Re: Dick Lamm's comments Re: Dick Lamm's comments 5 pictures of a bear Concentration camps... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 07:20:43 -0600 (CST) From: Breitkreuz@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca, Garry - Assistant 1 Subject: Homicides suspected outside of Cornwall PUBLICATION: GLOBE AND MAIL DATE: 2005.07.18 PAGE: A8 BYLINE: SECTION: National News SOURCE: CP EDITION: National DATELINE: CORNWALL, ONT WORDS: 299 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Homicides suspected outside of Cornwall - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Police in the Cornwall area say they are treating the deaths of two people whose bodies were found over the weekend as a double homicide. The bodies of 31-year-old Peter Benedict and 21-year-old Jade Benedict were found Saturday morning in a yard outside an auto shop in West St. Andrews, a village about 10 kilometres north of Cornwall. The men were from the Akwesasne Mohawk Territory, which straddles Quebec, Ontario and the United States. Police spokesman Blake Paquin says the bodies showed signs of trauma, which led investigators to believe the two were slain. Postmortems will be conducted to determine the cause of death. Residents near the garage where the bodies were found said they heard blasts that sounded like gunshots. Pat and Raymond Delormes were relaxing with friends on their porch when they thought they heard three shots just after midnight. "It was loud, man. It was like a stick of dynamite," Pat Delormes told The Ottawa Citizen. "I was a hunter for 25 years. I know the difference between a shotgun, a rifle, a .32 special, whatever. It was shots we heard last night." One shot rang out, with a second shortly after. A third came about five minutes later. Police were also called after a motorist discovered a beaten and bloodied man who crawled out of an abandoned farmhouse around 8 a.m. Saturday. The garage where the bodies were discovered was run by a man who lived next door to the abandoned farmhouse where the beaten man was found. Police would not comment on possible connections between the beaten man and the discovery of the bodies. The beating victim was in hospital Saturday night. Ontario Provincial Police detectives were investigating the farmhouse, which is out of the jurisdiction of Cornwall police. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 07:21:15 -0600 (CST) From: Breitkreuz@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca, Garry - Assistant 1 Subject: Early morning shooting at nightclub investigated PUBLICATION: Cape Breton Post DATE: 2005.07.18 SECTION: Atlantic PAGE: A7 COLUMN: In Brief SOURCE: CP DATELINE: Halifax - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Early morning shooting at nightclub investigated - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Police were investigating a shooting early Saturday morning outside a downtown Halifax nightclub. A man was shot in the leg shortly after 3:30 a.m. He was brought to hospital and treated for non-life-threatening injuries. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 07:21:51 -0600 (CST) From: Breitkreuz@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca, Garry - Assistant 1 Subject: TORONTO POLICE BLOTTER: THE WEEK IN CRIME: PUBLICATION: National Post DATE: 2005.07.18 EDITION: Toronto SECTION: Toronto PAGE: A13 BYLINE: Cathy Gulli SOURCE: National Post ILLUSTRATION: Graphic/Diagram: POLICE BLOTTER: THE WEEK IN CRIME: (Seeprint copy for complete graphic/diagram.) NOTE: cgulli@nationalpost.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Police blotter: the week in crime - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 1. THEFT OVER $5,000 Jewellery, a Canadian passport and a cheque book were stolen from inside a car parked at Bloor Street West and Brentwood Road on July 7 between 4:30 p.m. and 5:45 p.m. 2. PURSE SNATCHING A man stole the purse of an 82-year-old woman standing outside Price Choppers on Eglinton Avenue West at 6:35 p.m. on July 7. 3. SWARMING At 5 p.m. near Stilecroft and Grandravine drives on July 7, a 13-year-old boy was put into a headlock and pushed off his bicycle by two male and one female suspects also on bicycles, who then stole the victim's bike. 4. ROBBERY Cash was stolen from Villa Fish and Chips on East Avenue by a man with a knife at 8 p.m. on July 7 while a 27-year-old man was working there. 5. SHOOTING A 23-year-old woman's left thigh was grazed by a bullet shot from a passing car containing two men. The victim was standing outside a home on Briarwood Avenue with two men, ages 20 and 21. The bullet lodged inside a parked car nearby. 6. ARREST Two 17-year-old boys were charged with robbery and possession of property on July 7 for allegedly kicking and punching an 18 year old on a Runnymede bus, and stealing his baseball cap. 7. PURSE SNATCHING At 11:30 p.m. on July 7, a 54-year-old woman walking near Warden Avenue and Bridletowne Circle had her purse stolen from her by a man who said he had a knife, though none was seen. 8. MUGGING Two men, ages 29 and 40, managed to run away without injury when two disguised men with a hand gun pointed it at them in a parking lot on Wynford Drive just after midnight on July 8. 9. BREAK & ENTER A sewing machine, tools, electronic equipment, jewellery, carpet cleaner, a vacuum, laptop, chandelier and liquor were stolen from a house on Mercedes Drive between 5 a.m. on June 29 and 1 a.m. on July 8. 10. BREAK & ENTER Money and cigarettes were stolen from Triccolore Bar and Cafe on St. Clair Avenue West between 1:10 a.m. and 5 a.m. on July 8. 11. MUGGING A 51-year-old man was pushed from behind to the ground by a disguised man who then stole the victim's wallet near Weston Road and Oxford Drive at 7:45 a.m. on July 8. 12. ROBBERY Four disguised men with guns forced employees of European Jewellers on The West Mall to the floor, then smashed showcases with a hammer and stole jewellery on July 8 just before 1 p.m. 13. ROBBERY After asking for a dougnut from a 33-year-old female employee of Coffee Time Donuts on Lawrence Avenue East, a man with a gun went behind the counter and kicked the woman to the ground. After failing to open the cash register to steal money, the man fled empty-handed on a bicycle. 14. AGGRAVATED ASSAULT Just before 6 p.m. on July 8, two men got out of their car and shot a 37-year-old man walking near Jane Street and Sheppard Avenue West in the back and right thigh. 15. ROBBERY When on July 8 at 7:15 p.m. a 48-year-old employee of Daisy Mart on Kingston Road refused to hand over money from the cash register to two men with a knife, the suspects stole the lottery tray from the counter and fled. 16. ROBBERY A customer inside Homerama Video on Eglinton Avenue East was kicked and had his wallet stolen by three armed men wearing disguises on July 8 at 11:10 p.m. They fail to steal the cash register. The 57-year-old store owner had hid in the basement. 17. BREAK & ENTER Cigarettes were stolen from Hollywood Convenience on Willowdale Avenue on July 9 at 5 a.m. 18. MUGGING Two men stole a 22-year-old man's money, cell phone, bankcard and PIN on July 9 at 11 a.m. near Lawrence Avenue West and Flemington Road. 19. ARREST Two men, ages 19 and 20, have been charged with conspiracy, robbery and break & enter for allegedly stealing money from a safe at the restaurant where one of the suspects worked on July 9 at 4 p.m. 20. ARREST One man, age 19, and a 17-year-old youth have been charged with robbery for allegedly stealing money from a safe in an apartment building on Homewood Avenue on July 9 at 12:30 a.m. 21. ROBBERY Money was stolen from a 40-year-old delivery man for Dominos Pizza by three men in a parking lot near Sheppard Avenue West and Midland Avenue on July 9 at 8 p.m. 22. ROBBERY On July 9 at 11:30 p.m. a 58-year-old delivery man for Double Double Pizza confronted 7 male customers who paid him with counterfeit money. They punched and kicked him in the head and neck to the ground and fled the area of Grenoble Drive and Gateway Boulevard. 23. ARREST Two men, ages 51 and 37, have been charged with robbery, threatening death, obstruction, disguise with intent and dangerous weapons, for various crimes at businesses near Kingston Road between June 28 and July 9. 24. PURSE SNATCHING Two women tried to steal the purse of a 38-year-old woman walking near Roncesvalles Avenue and Howard Park at 3 a.m. on July 10. 25. SWARMING Just after midnight on July 10, a 34-year-old man walking near Carlton and Jarvis streets was punched and kicked to the ground by three men, who then stole his wallet. At 7:30 a.m., the victim was walking near Yonge and Gerrard streets when he was struck in the head by two of the three suspects. 26. SWARMING A 24-year-old woman leaving a nightclub near Richmond and John streets at 2:30 a.m. on July 10, was forced into a car with three men. They drove her to Jane Street and Wilson Avenue and stole her money before realizing she had called police on her cell phone. They forced her out of the car and fled. 27. ROBBERY Two men with a knife stole cash and merchandise from Coiffure De Paris on Queen Street West on July 10 at 9:30 a.m., just as the 61-year-old owner was opening for business that day. 28. ROBBERY When the 50-year-old female owner of Sheppard Plaza Convenience on Sheppard Avenue West refused to hand over cash to a man at 8:30 a.m. on July 10, the suspect fled empty-handed. 29. ROBBERY Just before 3 p.m. on July 10, a 55-year-old employee of Kaysons Esso on McCowan Road was forced to the ground by two masked men with a handgun, who stole cash. 30. ARREST A 20-year-old man has been charged with first-degree murder and attempted murder for allegedly shooting at and killing a 23-year-old man, and injuring a 16-year-old girl on May 14, 2004 inside a Shoreham Court home. 31. FIRE More than $3-million worth of damage was caused by a fire on Robert Street that burned several houses in a row on July 10 at 3:30 p.m. The cause of fire is unknown. 32. BREAK & ENTER Money was stolen from a house on Old Sheppard Avenue between 2:30 p.m. and 4 p.m. on July 9. 33. MUGGING After refusing to hand over his wallet, a 24-year-old man was smashed in the head with a beer bottle by two men near McCowan Road and Steeles Avenue on July 8 at 10 a.m. They stole his cell phone before he escaped. 34. ROBBERY A disguised man with a gun stole money, phone cards and cigarettes from Bulk Food & Variety on St. Clair Avenue West at 4 p.m. on July 10. The owners, a 40-year-old man and 38-year-old woman, were forced to the ground of the store. 35. SEXUAL ASSAULT A 10-year-old girl was sexually assaulted by a man in her home near Bellamy road and Eglinton Avenue East on July 10 at 6 p.m. 36. THEFT OVER $5,000 An arc welding machine was stolen from a construction site on Steeles Avenue West between 1 p.m. on July 10 and 6 a.m. on July 11. 37. BREAK & ENTER Copper wire, extension cords, hard hats and copper plumbing fittings were stolen from a construction site on Michael Power Place between 2:45 p.m. on July 8 and 7 a.m. on July 11. 38. ROBBERY A man stole money from Sandhurst Mini Mart on Sandhurst Circle just before 10 a.m. on July 11 while a 25-year-old woman was working. 39. THEFT OVER $5,000 A CAT mini hydraulic excavator and skid steer loader were stolen from a construction site on Roxborough Road between June 10 and July 8. 40. SWARMING A 17-year-old woman had her wallet stolen by three men and two women near Bellamy Road and Colonial Avenue on July 10 at 7:30 p.m. 41. SWARMING Two boys, ages 14 and 11, had their bikes stolen by three men near Neptune Drive and Bathurst Street on July 11 at 8 p.m. 42. PURSE SNATCHING A 14-year-old girl was pushed from behind to the ground by another female, who then stole her purse and a plastic bag she was carrying near Grove Avenue and Dundas Street West on July 11 at 8:25 p.m. 43. SHOOTING Police found blood, a bullet casing and shattered glass at a home on Chester Le Boulevard on July 12 at 1:40 a.m. after a neighbour reported hearing a gun shot and screaming. A male victim was admitted to hospital with non-life threatening injuries. 44. VEHICLE JACKING A 66-year-old man sitting inside his car in the parking lot of Scarborough Town Centre was punched and ordered out of the vehicle by a man on July 11 at 1 p.m. When the suspect couldn't start the car, he grabbed papers and keys and fled in a nearby getaway vehicle. 45. BREAK & ENTER Computer and video equipment, a camera and two watches were stolen from a home on Thorncliffe Park Drive between 4 p.m. and 8 p.m. on July 12. 46. GUN POINTED When a 29-year-old woman answered a knock at her door at an unspecified location on July 13 at 12:40 a.m., an unknown man was standing at the entrance. She closed the door, and saw that two more men were in her driveway. They pointed a gun at her, and she began screaming, at which point the men fled. 47. MUGGING While waiting in her car in an apartment building parking lot near Reidmount Avenue and Sheppard Avenue East, a 58-year-old woman had a her money stolen by two men. 48. ROBBERY When two disguised men with knives entered Sak and Run Convenience Store on Danforth Avenue on July 13 at 3:10 a.m., the 45-year-old employee began screaming. The suspects threw grapefruits at the man and fled. 49. SWARMING A 59-year-old man walking near Wright Avenue and Painfield Road on July 13 at 4:30 a.m. was punched and kicked to the ground by three men who then stole his money and personal belongings. 50. THEFT OVER $5,000 A vehicle containing kitchen supplies was stolen from D.M.X. Courier Services on Finch Avenue West between 5:30 p.m. on July 12 and 8:55 a.m. on July 13. 51. Robbery A man gave a note to a teller at Bank of Nova Scotia on Eglinton Avenue West ordering her to give him money, which she did before he escaped on July 13 at 10:15 a.m. 52. ROBBERY A man being shown gold bracelets by the 53-year-old owner of D.T. Jewellery on Jane Street grabbed and stole a handful on July 13 at 12:15 p.m. 53. THEFT OVER $5,000 Gold jewellery was stolen from a home on Dixfield Drive between July 24 last year and July 8, 2005. 54. MUGGING On July 13 at 10 p.m., a 19-year-old male was punched and strangled with his headset cord by two men who stole his backpack at near Dundas Street West and Mabelle Avenue 55. MUGGING While inside his garage on Gladstone Avenue on July 14 at 2:10 a.m., a 72-year-old man was punched, kicked and choked by a man who then stole his wallet. 56. ROBBERY At 3:20 a.m. on July 14, two gloved men with guns choked, dragged and punched a 49-year-old employee of Hasty Market on Dundas Street West before stealing the cash register, phone cards, cigarettes, batteries and razors. 57. ARREST A 31-year-old man has been charged with second-degree murder for allegedly stabbing to death 27-year-old Alexander Christoff on March 9. 58. BREAK & ENTER A television and emissions testing equipment was stolen from Paul's Auto Repair on Midwest Road between 5:30 p.m. on July 13 and 6:50 a.m. on July 14. 59. ROBBERY A man stole money from a Bank of Nova Scotia on Danforth Avenue after producing a note to a teller demanding cash on July 14 at 1 p.m. 60. ROBBERY When a man stole cash from a safe in the basement of Wimpey's Diner on Danforth Avenue on July 14 at 1 p.m., the 26-year-old owner was able to retrieve it despite the suspect's claims of being armed. The man fled empty-handed. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 08:40:25 -0600 (CST) From: "Robert S. Sciuk" Subject: Letter to National Post (unpub) ... Censorship through murder ... (fwd) Dear Sir/Madame, Jonathan Kay slams those who warn against infringing upon civil liberties in the advent of terror attacks and goes on to state that "societies reappraise the right balance between security and liberty all the time". In the US, that may be true, as the senate mandated a "sunset clause" be instrumented into their anti-terror legislation such that the lower house would need to approve any continued assault on civil liberties beyond the automatic 5 year period. In Canada, our senate has already called for review and re-assessment of our Anti-Terror Act, Security Certificates, and even the Cabinet Secrecy provisions under which even the underwear drawers of journalists like Juliet O'Neill are not safe from government intrusion. So far, the government has resisted any such review. It seem that Safety Minister Ann McLellan likes to wield the powers of a totalitarian state -- just in case, mind you. While some democratic states value the civil liberties of their citizens, Canada is not amoung them. Is a sunset clause so much to ask? One might expect better from a so-called "liberal" government, but Mr Kay assumes too much. Until they get it right, it seems that someone had better "stand on guard for thee". Sincerely, Robert S. Sciuk Oshawa, Ont. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 10:06:28 -0600 (CST) From: "Todd Birch" Subject: re: British Colonial History in South Africa The lack of historical awareness expressed by some on this site amazes me. Yes, what has been said about the Brits forming the first concentration laagers to contain and isolate the Boers is true. If one is going to demoralize front line troops, what better way than to attack their homes and families? It worked with the saturation bombing of Germany in WW1 and WW2. The sad fact is that it was then found that there wasn't the resources to properly care for them and things went badly. This only served to harden the resolve of the Boers who retaliated in kind. War is an ugly business. Every Colonial power has blots on it's record. If you want to be fair about it and not appear to be Brit-bashers and anti-Americans, how about a little research into the German African Colonial Empire? There's got to be a little dirt there somewhere. Are we to believe that the Kaiser's boys treated African Colonial troops and civilians with less than their usual Teutonic grace? And what was so great about the land pre-emptions of hitherto African land by the Boers? Is it just the fact that they got their asses soundly kicked by a bigger bully on the block, a once powerful Colonial power still playing a major role on the world scene? As for Canada's contribution to the Boer War, it was mainly in the form of ex-patriot Brits rallying to the flag, although there were some Canadian Colonials among them. The red-neck cow town I live in raised squadrons of mounted infantry (many of them Indian cowboys) which got broken up as replacements before they got to the fighting. You'd think that if anyone would be sensitive to the situation of the Boers, it would be them. I believe that the Lord Strathcona's Horse of Calgary was also raised for this fracas. Since a lot of historical cowboys were ex-patriot Americans, I guess there was an American involvement in the Boer War as well. Shades of Teddy Roosevelt! I'm shocked..... Of late, I notice a distinct anti-American/anti-British tone to a lot of the left wing rhetoric coming from some. It comes in the usual "all war is bad", left wing, intellectual rhetoric, especially wars conducted and waged by nations with whom we have an axe to grind. Stick around guys - if you think warfare as a means of conducting human affairs is going away soon, you are deluding yourself. Holding hands and singing the Barney Song only works at peace rallies and speeches at the UN. I don't recall such vehemence when Russia was getting her nose bloodied in Afghanistan. We were just kind of glad it was happening. When the Taliban was blowing up statues of Buddha, we regarded it as an internal politics. When the mullahs advocate mass killings, beheadings and bombings of civilians (including subways, hospitals and mosques), again, we are silent. But oh, I forgot - it's all the fault of the Brits and Americans!!! We're back to square one. Relax guys. We have our own fight with many dragons to slay. Let's start with the home team and defeat Political Correctness in ALL it's forms. That will be a giant step towards public re-education and take some heat off our backs. TB ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 10:06:44 -0600 (CST) From: Edward Hudson Subject: Re: Dick Lamm's comments On 2005 Jul 17, at 10:01 PM, Todd Birch wrote: > This is the most 'right on' speech I've read in a very long time! Source, please. Sincerely, Eduardo ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 10:16:00 -0600 (CST) From: "Bruce Mills" Subject: Re: Dick Lamm's comments - ----- Original Message ----- From: Edward Hudson > On 2005 Jul 17, at 10:01 PM, Todd Birch wrote: > > This is the most 'right on' speech I've read in a very long time! > > Source, please. http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/lamm.asp Yours in Liberty, Bruce Hamilton Ontario ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 11:26:22 -0600 (CST) From: paul chicoine Subject: 5 pictures of a bear Off topic I received 5 photographs by email of a bear doing a good highwire act on a bird feeder. They were entitled "Long Lac Bear" Could the photographer of those pictures please contact me at my private email. ******* Thank You Bruce for posting this. ******* __________ Paul Chicoine Non Assumpsit Contract - All Rights Reserved - Without Prejudice ___________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 12:14:03 -0600 (CST) From: Rick Lowe Subject: Concentration camps... "mred" wrote: > - --This is something they never taught us in school? where can I get more > information on this subject ? Why are you surprised. I was never taught anything about the internment of Canadians of Japanese descent during WWII in school - and I grew up just a short drive away from some of the camps. The English concentration camps were simply an extension of Lord Kitchener's scorched earth policies - which bore a remarkable resemblance to the "ethnic cleansing" we saw while over in Yugoslavia. Burn their buildings down, kill their livestock, poison their wells, destroy their crops. I'm sure not a few people took some amusement at the media outrage over Prince Harry wearing an SS uniform to a costume ball when it was the Brits who invented concentration camps and the papers of the day were describing the camps as "voluntary" and a humane gesture of British troops to care for and feed the Boers... If memory serves me correctly, British forces (including Canadians of course) obliterated about 50 Boer towns and 50,000 farms. These weren't combatants - it was the British intent to remove any possible point of resupply for Boer troops and to further break their spirit by what was being done to their family/friends/people. The people in these towns were herded into concentration camps, along with native Africans, about 250,000 in all. Much like the victims of Hitler's concentration camps 40 years later, many arrived crammed in cattle cars. About 25% of the inmates starved to death, died of exposure, or of disease. A report after the war, spurred by the protest actions of Emily Hobhouse during the war, concluded that about 25,000 of the Boers who died were children under 16 years old. The numbers seem insignificant today when compared to later acts of genocide, but you have to remember that the country was very sparsely populated at the time - this represents a very significant portion of the Boer population. I believe about 25% of the Boer population were herded into concentration camps. So if I remember the figures of the day correctly, that means British/Canadian/Commonwealth troops wiped out about 12.5% of the entire Boer population in concentration camps. Quite a feat of arms! And barely a bullet expended. To be fair to the soldiers of the day, there still exist today numerous letters, diaries, etc from those soldiers where they express revulsion at what they have been ordered to do and how the war was being fought. And it was not the soldiers who planned the lethal locations of the concentration camps and how they were administered. Soldiers of that time understood quite well that questioning orders or refusing to obey orders would be brutally dealt with. Here's a snippet off the Internet, you can take it as factual or as mere urban legend as you wish: ------------------------------- Even in Britain, prominent voices began speaking out against the slaughter. Lloyd George, who later served as Prime Minister during the First World War, vehemently denounced the carnage. During a speech in Parliament on February 18, 1901, he quoted from a letter by a British officer: "We move from valley to vally, killing cattle and sheep, burning and looting, and turning out women and children to weep in despair beside the ruin of their once beautiful homesteads." Lloyd George commented: "It is a war not against men, but against women and children." Another future Prime Minister, Henry Campbell-Bannerman, declared in Parliament on June 14, 1901: "When is a war not a war? When it is waged in South Africa by methods of barbarism." Michael Davitt even resigned as a member of the House of Commons in "personal and political protest against a war which I believe to be the greatest infamy of the nineteenth century." John Dillon, an Irish Nationalist member of Parliament, spoke out against the British policy of shooting Boer prisoners of war. On February 26, 1901, he made a public a letter by a British officer in the field: "The orders in this district from Lord Kitchener are to burn and destroy all provisions, forage, etc., and seize cattle, horses, and stock of all sorts wherever found, and to leave no food in the houses of the inhabitants. And the word has been passed round privately that no prisoners are to be taken. That is, all the men found fighting are to be shot. This order was given to me personally by a general, one of the highest in rank in South Africa. So there is no mistake about it. The instructions given to the columns closing round De Wet north of the Orange River are that all men are to be shot so that no tales may be told. Also, the troops are told to loot freely from every house, whether the men belonging to the house are fighting or not." Dillon read from another letter by a soldier which had been published in the Liverpool Courierj: "Lord Kitchener has issued orders that no man has to bring in any Boer prisoners. If he does, he had to give h im half his rations for the prisoners keep." Dillon quoted a third letter by a soldier serving with the Royal Welsh Regiment and published in the Wolverhampton Express and Star: "We take no prisoners now ... There happened to be a few wounded Boers left. We put them through the mill. Every one was killed." ------------------------- There's a fair number of websites related to this if you're curious: here's one: http://www.boer.co.za/boerwar/hellkamp.htm - -- "We sleep safe in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm." George Orwell ------------------------------ End of Cdn-Firearms Digest V8 #231 ********************************** Submissions: mailto:cdn-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Mailing List Commands: mailto:majordomo@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Moderator's e-mail address: mailto:akimoya@cogeco.ca List owner: mailto:owner-cdn-firearms@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca FAQ list: http://www.magma.ca/~asd/cfd-faq1.html and http://teapot.usask.ca/cdn-firearms/Faq/cfd-faq1.html Web Site: http://teapot.usask.ca/cdn-firearms/homepage.html FTP Site: ftp://teapot.usask.ca/pub/cdn-firearms/ CFDigest Archives: http://www.sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca/~ab133/ or put the next command in an e-mail message and mailto:majordomo@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca get cdn-firearms-digest v04.n192 end (192 is the digest issue number and 04 is the volume) To unsubscribe from _all_ the lists, put the next five lines in a message and mailto:majordomo@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca unsubscribe cdn-firearms-digest unsubscribe cdn-firearms-alert unsubscribe cdn-firearms-chat unsubscribe cdn-firearms end (To subscribe, use "subscribe" instead of "unsubscribe".) 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