From: owner-can-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca (Cdn-Firearms Digest) To: cdn-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Subject: Cdn-Firearms Digest V8 #377 Reply-To: cdn-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Sender: owner-can-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Errors-To: owner-can-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Precedence: normal Cdn-Firearms Digest Tuesday, August 30 2005 Volume 08 : Number 377 In this issue: Re: [Bulk] Alchoholic Fuel Re: Play area falls silent [COLUMN] In defence of Stephen Harper Suspects sought in drive-by shooting [COLUMN] A single, loud voice on gun crime [COLUMN] Tough on (pit bull) crime Call for stronger gun laws Gunning for the gangs Cops seeking drive-by players Gunfire claims two lives Man in hospital after morning shooting ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 11:58:38 -0600 (CST) From: "mred" Subject: Re: [Bulk] Alchoholic Fuel - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert P." > This was a problem with the seals and gaskets when using alcohol > based/ethanol gasoline. If however you replace these items with newer > resistance seals and gaskets there should be no problem. I went through > this > in regard to my bike. It is a 1984 and I had the same issue. After > extensive > research This is the information I was able to obtain. > > Perhaps some of your questions can be answered at this site > http://www.chevron.com/products/prodserv/fuels/bulletin/motorgas/ > > I had an `86 Acord that I once used alcohol based fuel in on a hot day in > Utah and the damn thing kept stalling on me .I had to let it cool down and > then start it up again until it stalled again . When I fianlly got to a service station that had regular gas I filled up with that and the stalling stopped. ed/ontario ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 12:00:19 -0600 (CST) From: 10x <10x@telus.net> Subject: Re: Play area falls silent At 06:38 AM 8/28/05 -0600, you wrote: > >http://torontosun.com/News/TorontoAndGTA/2005/08/28/1191262-sun.html > >Play area falls silent > >Despite his criminal record, people said Daring left a legacy of good >deeds. They remember him as someone who was happy and who organized >barbecues to encourage the violence to stop. And apparently he sold drugs to some folks and owed money to others. Enough money owed, or trespass on Gang turf and he was killed. Small wonder he was against violence. Some legacy! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 12:00:40 -0600 (CST) From: "Bruce Mills" Subject: [COLUMN] In defence of Stephen Harper http://www.torontosun.com/News/Columnists/Taube_Michael/2005/08/29/1192419. html In defence of Stephen Harper By MICHAEL TAUBE The philosopher John Stuart Mill said, "stupid people are generally conservative." While I don't think that's true, I agree that Conservatives can sometimes act stupid. Here's a prime example. Last week, two prominent conservatives, John Williamson and Gerry Nicholls, criticized Conservative Party leader Stephen Harper for failing to offer himself as a real political alternative to Prime Minister Paul Martin. Williamson, federal director of the Canadian Taxpayers' Federation, was quoted as saying, "Taxpayers want a voice, not an echo in Parliament. Mr. Harper is not advancing a credible vision to challenge the government's tax-and-spend agenda." And Nicholls, vice-president of the National Citizens' Coalition -- an organization Harper led before re-entering political life -- said, "They're trying to get people to like Stephen Harper, but I think what they have to do ... is get people to agree with Stephen Harper." I know Williamson and Nicholls, and respect both gentlemen (and their respective organizations). But when I heard these statements, I couldn't help but shake my head and say, "stupid." For these two bright, talented individuals played right into the Liberals' hands. It's not that Williamson and Nicholls were wrong to ask Harper to stand up for fiscal conservative principles. Both men are advocates for Canadian taxpayers and small-"c" conservatives, and both are completely right to hold this belief. But you have to choose your battles wisely. Also, you have to be careful what type of language you use, because the printed word -- and media sound bites -- last forever. Unfortunately, Williamson and Nicholls provided the Liberals with the political ammunition needed to point at conservative divisions. Martin could even declare that this type of aggressive attack on Harper shows the Canadian Alliance-Progressive Conservative merger failed to unite Canada's right. In both cases, the Liberals would be wrong. But the perception now exists that some Canadian conservatives believe Harper is the wrong man for the job. In turn, some Canadian voters will believe that Harper is not ready to be our next prime minister. That's a shame. Harper is the right man for the job, and is ready to be prime minister. Let's get one thing straight: Harper is not, and has never been, an "echo" of Martin's agenda. Yes, Harper has taken positions on taxation, corporate welfare and health care that could be described as moderate. But this hardly means he believes in "an ever-expanding state," as Williamson purported. Smaller government Rather, Harper supports a smaller, more effective government. He advocates lower taxes for Canadian families and corporations. He believes in free markets and a liberalized economy. And he has always accepted a role for the private sector as a way to reform social services. While Martin claims to believe in these principles, he has done little to prove it. Instead, he made a deal with the NDP to shelve important tax cuts that would benefit our economy, and supported $4.6-billion in wasteful social spending to keep his minority government alive. I sincerely doubt Harper would ever cut such a deal. Maintaining political principles is more important to him than maintaining political power at all costs. Last week, he launched a task force on crime, noting that "the fact that the overall crime rate has not seen a marked decrease while the Liberals have been in power is a clear indication that the Liberal approach to combating crime, as on so many other issues, has failed." Doesn't this prove Harper hardly echoes Martin, but rather speaks above the prime minister when it comes to policy ideas and solutions? I believe it does. Harper knows a successful politician must balance his supporters' priorities, the country's priorities and his own priorities to win an election. That's exactly what he's doing. It's a form of conservative intelligence, not conservative stupidity. . Taube is a Toronto-based public affairs analyst and commentator. You can e-mail him at miketaube@yahoo.com . Have a letter for the editor? E-mail it to editor@tor.sunpub.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 12:00:51 -0600 (CST) From: "Bruce Mills" Subject: Suspects sought in drive-by shooting http://www.canada.com/edmonton/edmontonjournal/news/cityplus/story.html?id= bc325b1e-f5ad-488a-ad16-6ed73252edb5 Suspects sought in drive-by shooting Matt Hartley The Edmonton Journal Tuesday, August 30, 2005 EDMONTON - City police are searching for suspects in connection with a drive-by shooting in downtown Edmonton Monday evening. Witnesses say between five and seven shots were fired, but police were releasing few details. The intersection of McDougall Hill at Rossdale Road was closed for over an hour while the police forensics team scoured the area in search of clues. Shards of broken glass littered the ground and half a dozen yellow tags marked the spots where officers discovered bullet casings. Police said there have been no reports of injuries. Elaine Demers was visiting her boyfriend at the Renaissance Place apartment complex at the corner of Rossdale Road and 99th Avenue, close to the location of the shots. She said she heard five or six loud pops around 7 p.m., but didn't immediately look out the window because she thought the noise sounded like fireworks. "I'm sure I heard gunshots like 20 minutes ago," she said. "You hear noises around here lots like that, but a lot of times it's just firecrackers." At the foot of Bellamy Hill, another police car had a silver Chevrolet Camaro pulled over to the side of the road around 7:10 p.m. with a man in the back of the cruiser. The two officers from the car were taking statements from passing pedestrians and motorists. Heike Kohl was walking home from work when she heard seven loud pops. A split second later she saw a black sports car whiz past her down Rossdale Road. She said she tried to get a look at the licence plate as the car sped past her, but it was moving too quickly. Insp. Al Bohachyk said a black vehicle was spotted near the Baccarat Casino at the corner of 101st Street and 104th Avenue with bullet holes in it, and that police followed that vehicle and eventually took custody of the driver. A third person who was arrested at the casino was heard saying, "That's not my gun," while being questioned by police. Bohachyk said: "We have located a vehicle that we believe was involved. Investigations are ongoing. We have custody of the driver now, and we're talking to the driver, but I don't know what everybody's relationship is to that crime." Police followed the car from the casino and pulled the black Toyota Celica over at the western edge of the James MacDonald Bridge around 8:30 p.m. Police took one man from the Celica and led him to the back seat of a nearby police cruiser. Five holes could be seen on the driver's side of the car, with another golfball-sized hole in the windshield. A sixth hole on the passenger side looked like an exit hole. Windows on both the driver's and passenger side of the Celica had been shattered, with piles of broken glass blanketing the floor of the car. A few red spots could be seen on the driver's seat in the otherwise pristine interior. A cellphone on the driver's seat could be heard ringing intermittently. Police seized the car for further investigation. mhartley@thejournal.canwest.com © The Edmonton Journal 2005 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 12:01:04 -0600 (CST) From: "Bruce Mills" Subject: [COLUMN] A single, loud voice on gun crime http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/TPStory/LAC/20050830/GUN S30/TPComment/Columnists A single, loud voice on gun crime Headshot of John Barber By JOHN BARBER Tuesday, August 30, 2005 Page A7Key Councillor Rob Ford never showed up, Councillor Giorgio Mammoliti walked out halfway through. Councillor Michael Thompson sat through the entire meeting, but when he emerged, his comments were so obscure and mumbled it was as if he hadn't been there. Thus the non-event of the day, a private meeting among city councillors, the police board and the service's senior command, including Chief Bill Blair, ended up serving a valuable public service after all -- by helping to silence the worst of the braying opportunists who have exploited the city's summer of gun violence for political ends, dragging an extremely important civic debate through the mud in the process. Even the non-braying opponents of the current regime either absented themselves or hurried past the cameras when the session let out. What happened inside, it would seem, was the formation of some rough consensus on the official response to the latest outbreak, with Mayor David Miller and the new chief combining forces effectively to reassure the confused and marginalize the merely nasty. "This isn't something to fight about," police board chair Pam McConnell said in the aftermath, describing the session as "cordial," "innovative" and "constructive." The point of the closed-door meeting, she added, was to "get everybody on the same page." And it seems to have worked. Absent the triumphal announcement of a zillion arrests, à la Project Impact in 2004 -- that's no bad news now. The appearance of a coherent strategy is reassuring, even when nothing new is said. And that much wasn't easily apparent throughout the summer holidays, as so many more died and the outriders made headlines. As ever reactive, the Miller regime has nonetheless reacted well. The mayor is pulling another string this morning when he holds a press conference with federal Minister of Justice Irwin Cotler "to answer questions on justice issues affecting Toronto." There he will enjoy another high-profile opportunity to emphasize his own law-and-order credentials by repeating his call for tougher handling of gun crime. "I've been lobbying on that specific issue of bail for gun offences since I've been mayor," he said yesterday. "It's not acceptable." By uncanny coincidence, the police yesterday announced the arrest of a drug dealer allegedly with a "loaded .44-magnum firearm" who was, at the time, out on bail after being arrested in the spring on weapons charges. Ever eager to enlist the help of would-be "partners" -- i.e., governments with the cash and the power he lacks -- Mr. Miller is learning the art of coercion. It's about time somebody put the feds on the spot. Where have they been? Who are they, even? Meanwhile, Chief Blair continues to play his role impeccably -- repeating the mayor's criticism of the justice system's lax attitude toward gun crime ("I insist that the courts take this more seriously"), while telling the politicians as much as they need to know to understand who's in charge. That's something else that hasn't been terribly clear this summer, as the new chief settled into his command and dozens of gun crimes went unsolved. Right-wing critics were able to accuse the mayor of being "soft on crime" while pretending to support the police, either ignoring the chief or assuming he would fall in line as others, most notably his immediate predecessor, had done before. Yesterday, Chief Blair not only accomplished his avowed purpose of giving the politicians "some understanding of what we're dealing with out there," he let them know clearly where he's at -- shoulder-to-shoulder with the mayor and even (Gasp!) Ms. McConnell. Thus, the progressive dream team shapes up, a made-in-Toronto crime-busting squad that combines tough enforcement with all the increased social spending that senior governments and the private sector can afford. One melancholy but positive result of this year's killings is that they have helped make the case like nothing else could have. Now is the time to press it -- with a single voice. jbarber@globeandmail.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 12:01:18 -0600 (CST) From: "Bruce Mills" Subject: [COLUMN] Tough on (pit bull) crime http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/TPStory/LAC/20050830/COW ENT30/TPComment/TopStories Tough on (pit bull) crime Headshot of Margaret Wente By MARGARET WENTE Tuesday, August 30, 2005 Page A15Key Here in Toronto, it's just another average week. Last Thursday, a guy was gunned down in broad daylight outside a public-housing complex as a bunch of kids looked on. The victim, Delroy Daring, was initially portrayed as an upstanding citizen, an anti-violence advocate and caring father of 10, until his criminal record came to light. It turns out that his rap sheet for drug trafficking is about a mile long. When he was shot, he had plenty of drugs on him. He was the city's 32nd gun murder victim so far this year. In other news, a downtown nightclub called the Phoenix cancelled its popular Sunday hip-hop nights because too many people were getting blown away in the immediate vicinity. Yesterday, police and city councillors were huddling in closed-door briefing sessions. The wave of black gun-violence has grown so bad that even the Mayor's worried. So what's the biggest crime problem in Ontario today? Pit bulls. Yes. According to our Premier, the correct answer is pit bulls. Fortunately for us, our crime-fighting government has attacked the pit-bull crisis with rare courage and tenacity. Thanks to emergency legislation rammed through in record time, pit bulls are now banned in Ontario. Illegal handguns are banned, too, of course, but pit bull owners now face more penalties than owners of illegal handguns, who are usually released on bail and back on the street a few hours after they're arrested. I'm no fan of pit bulls. I think irresponsible dog owners should be chained and muzzled. But so far this year, the total death toll from pit bulls has been zero (as it was the year before and the year before that, etc.) That's 32 less than the death toll from guns. The cops aren't allowed to intercept suspicious-looking people and check them out for deadly weapons. But they are being encouraged to intercept the owners of suspicious-looking dogs, who are then obliged to prove that their dogs are not pit bulls. (Maybe the Premier can explain to me why pit bulls are bad but Rottweilers are okay.) The pit-bull legislation is nakedly populist, deeply flawed and largely unenforceable, since the province has downloaded the enforcement job to the overworked municipalities. But it has achieved its main objective, i.e., tons of flattering media coverage. "Ontarians will be safer for it," Michael Bryant, the province's Attorney-General, declared triumphantly. I'm still waiting for him to say something -- anything -- about hand guns, random shootings, drug wars, and bullet-riddled children who've been caught in the crossfire. But on those subjects, he has been strangely silent. Premier Dalton McGuinty did make one bold move to address the gun-crime problem. He spoke sternly to the American ambassador about it. (That will no doubt scare the bad guys.) He also coughed up a little bit of money for a few more cops, who nobody seems to think will make much difference. So far, he hasn't coughed up more money for more prosecutors, who are so understaffed and overwhelmed that weapons charges routinely get plea-bargained down to zilch. On paper, penalties for gun crimes are stiff. In practice, the sentences imposed by judges are often light. The system is a revolving door, and many of the people police pick up for weapons offences are repeat offenders. So what voices are clamouring loudest for more cops on the beat and tougher sentencing? They're the folks who live in the neighbourhoods where gunfire has become routine. They're the people who watch young men with guns chase each other through their back yards almost every night. They're the people who are scared to let their kids play outside. They think gangsters caught with illegal handguns should go to jail for a long, long time, and they're furious that they don't. Sure, they also want more social and employment programs and better chances for their kids. But first of all, they want the bad guys off the streets. Of course, these people aren't all that sophisticated. They don't understand the menace that bad dogs pose to society. They don't understand that thanks to their government's courageous crackdown on illegal dogs, little children can once again sleep safely in their beds. Are we tough on crime around here? You bet. mwente@globeandmail.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 12:01:30 -0600 (CST) From: "Bruce Mills" Subject: Call for stronger gun laws http://vancouver.24hrs.ca/News/2005/08/30/1193510-sun.html Call for stronger gun laws By 24 hours news services Ontario PC Leader John Tory says said the government has yet to make a significant effort to deal with the gunfire body count on city streets. "There are 32 people dead so far this year," Tory said. Greg Crone, a spokesman for Attorney General Michael Bryant, said the ministry has responded to gun violence by hiring 50 new prosecutors and creating a dedicated Crown attorney to work with police. The attorney general intends to announce new initiatives shortly, he said. Tory is recommending a joint effort by city and provincial politicians to push Ottawa for tougher sentences and a clampdown at the border to prevent the importing of illegal guns. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 12:01:43 -0600 (CST) From: "Bruce Mills" Subject: Gunning for the gangs http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Law/2005/08/30/1194020-sun.html Gunning for the gangs Cops 'getting closer' to arrests By ROB GRANATSTEIN, CITY HALL BUREAU TORONTO POLICE are closing in on a major gang bust following a wave of summer shootings, Chief Bill Blair said yesterday. After meeting with Mayor David Miller and about 30 Toronto city councillors about the increased gunfire, Blair said his officers are close to a bust similar to last year's Project Impact raid on the Malvern Crew. "Yeah, we're getting closer," Blair said, refusing to detail whom his officers have targeted. There have been 32 gun murders so far this year, compared to 27 in all of 2004. Project Impact, targeting the Malvern Crew in May 2004, saw 72 arrests and more than 600 charges after a long, intense police investigation into violence rocking that area. "Those are lengthy investigations. They're expensive and they're resource intensive, but they produce quick results and we're committed to them," Blair said. "We know that by disrupting and dismantling the criminal organizations behind these gangsters that's the most effective way to put them out of business." During the two-hour closed-door meeting with politicians, Blair and his deputy chiefs said the shootings are confined to a small group of gangsters. Councillor Sandra Bussin said police told them that the Malvern incidents were caused by just 12 people and the current violence is following the same pattern. Added Councillor Joe Mihevc, "It's not just send in the marines. There's a plan." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 12:01:56 -0600 (CST) From: "Bruce Mills" Subject: Cops seeking drive-by players http://www.edmontonsun.com/News/Edmonton/2005/08/30/1193818-sun.html Cops seeking drive-by players Police seized a bullet-riddled car last night and were on the hunt for a second vehicle as well as the people involved in a drive-by shooting. Around 7 p.m. police were called to the area off Bellamy Hill and north of 97 Avenue where gunshots were reported. Seven shots were fired from a vehicle into a Toyota Celica, said Staff Sgt. John Visscher. A search turned up the bullet-riddled Celica, which police stopped on the James MacDonald Bridge around 9 p.m. The car was being examined by the forensic unit last night. Visscher said they don't believe the man driving the car on the James MacDonald Bridge was in the car when it was shot. He said they were still looking for the people involved in the shooting and did not know if anyone was injured. Visscher said descriptions of the other car involved are varied. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 12:02:09 -0600 (CST) From: "Bruce Mills" Subject: Gunfire claims two lives http://vancouver.24hrs.ca/News/2005/08/30/1193502-sun.html Gunfire claims two lives By Matt Kieltyka, 24 hours Two people are dead following a shooting in Abbotsford Sunday night. Police stumbled upon the bodies at College Drive and King Road after receiving several shots fired calls at 9:30 p.m. Once on the scene, police found a car with several bullet holes in it. A female body was found inside the car, while a male's body was found on the ground adjacent to it. The identities of the victims are being withheld by police until next of kin are notified. According to a release put out by the Abbotsford police yesterday, the RCMP's Integrated Homicide Investigation Team haven't found any motive for the shooting and continues to piece together what happened in the incident. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 12:02:21 -0600 (CST) From: "Bruce Mills" Subject: Man in hospital after morning shooting http://www.canada.com/fortstjohn/story.html?id=274a46b3-7ed1-4fb7-bdec-4243 11ee2869 Man in hospital after morning shooting Broadcast News Tuesday, August 30, 2005 TORONTO -- A man is in hospital with unspecified injuries after a shooting in Toronto's west end early Tuesday morning. This latest shooting came just hours after police chief Bill Blair blasted a May decision to release a gunman on bail. Blair says it's absurd a judge released the man on the condition he only leave home with his mother. The man has since been rearrested and charged with 14 new offences, including possession of a loaded gun. Blair says this case illustrates problems with the justice system. © Broadcast News 2005 ------------------------------ End of Cdn-Firearms Digest V8 #377 ********************************** Submissions: mailto:cdn-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Mailing List Commands: mailto:majordomo@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Moderator's e-mail address: mailto:akimoya@cogeco.ca List owner: mailto:owner-cdn-firearms@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca FAQ list: http://www.magma.ca/~asd/cfd-faq1.html and http://teapot.usask.ca/cdn-firearms/Faq/cfd-faq1.html Web Site: http://teapot.usask.ca/cdn-firearms/homepage.html FTP Site: ftp://teapot.usask.ca/pub/cdn-firearms/ CFDigest Archives: http://www.sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca/~ab133/ or put the next command in an e-mail message and mailto:majordomo@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca get cdn-firearms-digest v04.n192 end (192 is the digest issue number and 04 is the volume) To unsubscribe from _all_ the lists, put the next five lines in a message and mailto:majordomo@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca unsubscribe cdn-firearms-digest unsubscribe cdn-firearms-alert unsubscribe cdn-firearms-chat unsubscribe cdn-firearms end (To subscribe, use "subscribe" instead of "unsubscribe".) 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