From: owner-can-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca (Cdn-Firearms Digest) To: cdn-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Subject: Cdn-Firearms Digest V8 #408 Reply-To: cdn-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Sender: owner-can-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Errors-To: owner-can-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Precedence: normal Cdn-Firearms Digest Thursday, September 15 2005 Volume 08 : Number 408 In this issue: Re: PETITION For Full C-68 Disclosure.. [LETTER] Gun owners not prone to lawlessness Small arms disappointment at World Summit CFC: Senior Human Resources Advisor Fwd: Appointment of Fox What the police have been saying [COLUMN] Attacks becoming un-Bearable Man centre of standoff; Police evacuate nearby homes FW: NCRRA Club Champs 2005 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 09:21:47 -0600 (CST) From: paul chicoine Subject: Re: PETITION For Full C-68 Disclosure.. The next AG report on the gun registry is due out around November 2005. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 09:29:29 -0600 (CST) From: "Bruce Mills" Subject: [LETTER] Gun owners not prone to lawlessness http://www.canada.com/victoria/timescolonist/news/letters/story.html?id=ca9 c0d1a-0388-4511-b443-c3860672b97f Gun owners not prone to lawlessness Re: "A Katrina-like disaster could hit here," Sept. 12. Barbara Yaffe states that, "In Canada, fewer people have guns (than in New Orleans)." What is the source of this assertion? The clear inference here is that looting and civil disorder in New Orleans was exacerbated by civilian possession of firearms. As a lifelong gun owner, I take strong exception to the proposition that gun owners are more prone to lawlessness and violence than golfers or lawn bowlers. I do not know "how Lower Mainlanders and Vancouver Islanders might react" after an earthquake, but of one thing I am certain: Legal, law-abiding gun owners will not be found with their firearms amongst those citizens, if any, who resort to civil disorder and looting. Gordon Payne, Comox. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 10:21:07 -0600 (CST) From: "Bruce Mills" Subject: Small arms disappointment at World Summit http://www.iansa.org/un/world-summit-2005.htm Small arms disappointment at World Summit IANSA press release 26 August 2005 IANSA's hopes that the World Summit (14-16 September 2005) would see states committing themselves to a new agreement to control the arms trade have been dashed. The heads of state who have gathered in New York are signing a document that has very limited promises on small arms. It says only that states support the implementation of the Programme of Action on small arms. This means very little, because they had already committed themselves to implementing the Programme of Action when they signed it in 2001. In early August 2005, the draft of the summit outcome document showed promising signs, saying that states would "adopt and implement an international instrument to regulate the marking and tracing, illict brokering, trade and transfer of small arms and light weapons." This would have been enormous progress towards the Arms Trade Treaty and the legally binding agreement to control arms brokers that IANSA members are campaigning for. But in the frantic final days of negotiations that followed the US's request for huge cuts to the draft agreement on a wide range of issues, this wording was dropped from the text. Controlling the proliferation of small arms would not only save hundreds of thousands of lives every year and improve security, but would also promote development. Around the world, armed violence inhibits achievement of the Millennium Development Goals by preventing access to jobs, land, education, healthcare and aid. Small arms control was not the only issue that was dropped from the summit agreement. Other vital issues that the agreement fails to tackle are nuclear proliferation and poverty reduction. However, states did reach agreement on the contentious subject of their responsibility to protect civilians from genocide. Click here to visit www.reformtheun.org which is run by IANSA member the World Federalist Movement, for documents relating to the World Summit. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 11:20:43 -0600 (CST) From: Breitkreuz@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca, Garry - Assistant 1 Subject: CFC: Senior Human Resources Advisor > Classification: PE -04 > Position Title: Senior Human Resources Advisor, OL, EE & Awards > Program > Department or Agency: Canada Firearms Centre > Location: Ottawa, Ontario > Organization: Human Resources > Salary: $ 66,042 - $ 73,409 per year > Tenure > Indeterminate > > When may I apply? > On or before September 22, 2005 > > Who can apply? > Persons employed in the Public Service in the National Capital Region. > > What is required? > Official Languages Proficiency: Bilingual Imperative BBB/BBB > Other Language Information : Bilingual Imperative > Education: Graduation with a bachelor's degree from a recognized > university with acceptable specialization in human resources > management, labour or industrial relations, psychology, public or > business administration, organizational development, education > sciences, social sciences, sociology, or in any other field relevant > to the work to be performed. > Experience: Experience in project management. Experience in having > participated in program development. Experience in researching, > preparing and writing reports. Experience in navigating on the > Internet and/or Intranet. Experience in working in a Microsoft > environment, using Word and Excel. > > > What are the conditions of employment? > Medical Suitability: no. > Reliability and Security: Reliability Status > Other: Reliability and Security: Reliability Status. > > What are the functions? > Plans and delivers integrated operational services in Official > Languages (OL), Employment Equity (EE), and Awards and Recognition > Program (ARP). Gathers, synthesizes and analyses OL, EE and ARP work > plans and compliance activities, and demographic and statistical data. > Prepares departmental OL, EE and ARP plans and reports to senior > management, central agencies and unions. Liaises, represents > departmental interests and consults with central agencies, working > groups, forum, third parties and provides information pertaining to > inquiries, complaints, investigations, audits, recourse proceedings. > > General Inquiries? > Serge Collard, HR Consultant > Telephone: (613) 946-1650 > Fax: (613) 946-8585 > E-mail: serge.collard@cfc-cafc.gc.ca > > > How do I apply? > Send your application to: > Judy Anne Albert, Senior Human Resources Assistant > 10th Floor 50 O'Connor Street Ottawa, Ontario K1A 1M6 > Phone: (613) 952-6643 > Fax: (613) 946-8585 > E-mail: judyanne.albert@cfc-cafc.gc.ca > Quote selection process number: 2005-CAFC-NCR-CCID-27395 > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 11:23:07 -0600 (CST) From: Len Miller Subject: Fwd: Appointment of Fox To All, Here is an excellent example of why criminals get away with it. It is why Svend, Hedy Fry, Chretien, Mulroney, Trudeau, Copps, and other 'placed' personages are able to avoid any sanctions which protect our social fabric. While heroes are turned into scoundrels . . . Doug Collins . . commando, writer, hero . . Here is why . . CENSORSHIP . . . Control WHAT is said, about whom and WHEN . . The Gomery Report will be made public (maybe) AFTER the election . . WHEN IT DOESN'T MATTER . . AFTER all the lies are said about the opposition . . and the truths suppressed about the liberals . . Len Miller Begin forwarded message: > From: oped > Date: September 15, 2005 9:21:51 AM PDT > To: Len Miller > Subject: Re: Appointment of Fox > Reply-To: oped > > Dear Len Miller, > If one of our columnists write on it, so be it. Otherwise, I doubt > we'll be given a reason to revisit it; Fox has already been appointed, > so it's something of a fait accompli. > Yours, > AC > > On Wednesday, September 14, 2005, Len Miller > wrote: >> Dear Assistant Editor, RE appt of Francis (the forger) Fox. >> >> Re Setting the 'fox' amongst the chickens . . >> >> It's not too late is it? >> >> Perhaps it's not too late to use a few column inches to rectify an >> oversight? >> >> Would go some way into exemplifying the 'sacrifice' we made for our >> country >> >> back then? >> >> Len Miller >> Veteran >> Ex RCAF Stn Uplands ( in the fifties ) >> >> >> >> On 14-Sep-05, at 11:42 AM, wrote: >> >>> Dear Me, >>> Oops, I speak to soon, that must have been gassed to make way for a >>> blurb on that genetic slection musical Health Canada funded. >>> Yours, >>> Andrew Carver >>> Assistant to the Editor >>> Ottawa Sun >>> (613) 739-5192 >>> >>> On Wednesday, September 14, 2005, Feedback >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> (ME . . HOW A NEWSPAPER, BY OMITTING, failing, TO TELL THE >>>> TRUTH, MISLEADS . . LM) >>>> >>>> Begin forwarded message: >>>> >>>> From: Len Miller >>> > >>>> Date: September 13, 2005 11:15:37 PM EDT (CA) >>>> To: > >>>> Subject: Appointment of Fox >>>> >>>> Editor, >>>> >>>> >>>> Isn't this the same Francis fox involved in a forgery? >>>> >>>> Didn't he personate a woman's husband in writing to enable an >>>> abortion? >>>> >>>> Aren't you as an editor, obliged to to bring this up? >>>> >>>> Me ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 12:03:07 -0600 (CST) From: Breitkreuz@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca, Garry - Assistant 1 Subject: What the police have been saying PUBLICATION: Calgary Herald DATE: 2005.09.15 EDITION: Final SECTION: News PAGE: A9 BYLINE: Emma Poole SOURCE: Calgary Herald NOTE: Compiled by Emma Poole from Calgary Herald Archives WORD COUNT: 323 - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ----- What the police have been saying - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ----- September 2000: "I would not say we have a gang problem," Police Chief Christine Silverberg said. September 2000: A Calgary teenager is swarmed by 15 young men who attack him with an axe. December 2002: The word "gang" is a slang term, said acting Insp. Shaun Gissing of the major crimes section. "We use the term organized crime group. We don't use the term gang because where does a gang start and end? It's a sliding scale." December 2002: Police sources tell the Herald the battle between the organized crime groups -- which police refuse to label as gangs -- is involved in one homicide and at least one other near-fatal shooting in a one-week span. January 2003: Calgary police create a 25-member task force on street activity. The move was in response to dozens of stabbings, machete attacks, drive-by shootings and a murder in 2002. "I think we can get into their gangs. I think we can disrupt them, and move them out of our community," said Chief Jack Beaton. January 2003: Police investigate a downtown drive-by shooting that left a 27-year-old man with gunshot wounds to his hand and hip. "There are certain similarities between this shooting and the others, being the number of (rounds), the brazenness of the attack and the fact that an Asian male was the victim," said Insp. Rene Bailly. March 12, 2003: "We are unique in that we don't have a huge, significant gang problem," said Staff Sgt. Doug de Grood. January 2005: "There's been no indication these are gang-related," said Deputy Chief Dale Burn, of three shootings since the beginning of the month. January 2005: Long Dinh, 33, died following a knife attack by a group of men dressed in black who forced their way into the Warehouse nightclub. July 2005: Chief Jack Beaton said police are working hard to "suppress, disrupt and dismantle" gangs in Calgary. "If we can't get them on shootings, we'll get them for every little thing. We know who they are," he said. July 2005: Police reveal since January they seized firearms, machetes, flashbang grenades and brass knuckles from gang members. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 12:03:19 -0600 (CST) From: "Bruce Mills" Subject: [COLUMN] Attacks becoming un-Bearable http://www.ottawasun.com/Sports/Columnists/Morrison_Jeff/2005/09/14/1217414 .html Attacks becoming un-Bearable By Jeff Morrison Some sportsmen believe that reinstating the spring bear hunt could cut down the increasing number of bear attacks. Last week, 30-year-old Jacqueline Perry was attacked and killed by a black bear at a Northern Ontario provincial park, 80 km north of Chapleau. Ontario Provincial Police said that while the bear was attacking the Toronto-area doctor, her husband Mark Jordan stabbed at the animal with a Swiss Army knife, in a futile effort to keep the bruin from dragging his wife into the woods. This is the sixth bear attack victim in North America in only three months -- three deaths resulting from grizzlies and three more from black bears. The cancellation of Ontario's spring bear hunt in 1999 created controversy and debate between conservationists and environmentalists and although the government has responded to population concerns in certain regions, the spring season has yet to be reinstated. A 10-year study undertaken in Quebec led to the cancellation of that province's fall hunt in 1998, as research determined that bear populations are better managed under a spring season. And although Quebec maintains just a spring bear hunt throughout most of the province, it has responded to burgeoning populations in certain regions like Gatineau, with the addition of a fall season to help control bruin numbers. Veteran Ontario bear hunters like Paul Harris feel that the reinstatement of Ontario's spring hunt is long overdue, and could go a long way in stopping the attacks. "There are far too many bears per square kilometre and I don't know where the MNR gets their stats, but I get mine from sitting in the bush," sais Harris. In the years prior to the cancellation of the spring hunt, Harris saw perhaps 2-4 bears per active bear site, but in the last two years, bruin numbers have increased to 5-8 animals per active site. The only way to bring bear numbers down significantly, in Harris' opinion, is to re-introduce the spring hunt. As provinces deal with the highest number of bear attacks in recent memory, this debate over managing large omnivores like black bears and grizzlies will surely heat up in the coming weeks. DEER LAND: Perry MacDonald and his hunt party are from Chalk River and accustomed to deer hunting in WMUs 64a and 63b. The boys have been looking for a new hunt territory and have even signed up for the Hunter Connection Program run by the Lanark Stewardship Council, but have yet to receive an offer of land to hunt. Perry and his partners describe themselves as responsible hunters and wise conservationists in need of a new deer territory. With the deer numbers we have locally and the huntable land available, hopefully someone can provide access to the Chalk River boys. EARLY GEESE: Avid waterfowl hunter Stephen Dolan wishes to remind all goose hunters that the early goose season has already gotten under way. Dolan claims that there is always confusion over the early goose season, as it generally opens mid-week after Labour Day, but this year moved to Sept. 10. He points out that WMUs 60A and 61 began on the 6th and are listed first in the regulations, so many do not realize that WMUs 62 to 71 actually open later. Waterfowl regulations can be found at: www.cws-scf.ec.gc.ca or picked up at most post offices. TUNE IN: Be sure to tune in next week for details on the upcoming Fish for the Cure charity fishing event and with moose season just around the corner, we'll take a look at some hunting hotspots for old Bullwinkle in Ontario and Quebec. Letters to the editor should be sent to feedback@ott.sunpub.com. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 12:04:56 -0600 (CST) From: Breitkreuz@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca, Garry - Assistant 1 Subject: Man centre of standoff; Police evacuate nearby homes PUBLICATION: The Chronicle-Herald DATE: 2005.09.15 SECTION: Metro PAGE: B1 SOURCE: Crime Reporter BYLINE: Dan Arsenault PHOTO: Tim Krochak / Staff A well-armed member of the HalifaxRegional ILLUSTRATION: Police emergency response team runs to his position near 28Osborne Ave. in Woodside on Wednesday evening. Glen Rideout had not communicated with police by press time and is believed to have access to guns. WORD COUNT: 688 - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ----- Man centre of standoff; Police evacuate nearby homes - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ----- Police sharpshooters remained in position around a home in a partially evacuated Dartmouth neighbourhood late Wednesday night, following a domestic dispute involving a man known to have guns in his house. Halifax Regional Police rushed to 28 Osborne Ave. in Woodside at about 4 p.m. after a woman, who had run from the house, called to say a man was breaking things inside and had access to weapons. The house's owners are listed as Glen Ross Rideout and Madonna Geraldine Rideout. Neighbours said the couple live there with Ms. Rideout's school-aged son and daughter from a previous marriage and Mr. Rideout's adult son. "There was a call of a disturbance in the home and the information was that he was breaking up furniture in the home," police spokesman Const. Mark Hobeck said. "We've been told he has more than one firearm, possibly two. We believe that he is in there by himself." Although the man was not seen with a weapon and no one had been injured, police closed the surrounding streets to traffic, evacuated all but one of the neighbouring homes and prevented pedestrians from walking in some areas they said could be in the line of fire. Heavily armed and armoured members of the emergency response team fanned out from a police command post set up in the parking lot behind the New Hope Baptist Church on Everette Street, about 50 metres south of the house. Many neighbours stood on street corners watching as police - many carrying rifles or bulletproof shields - surrounded the house. By 11 p.m., police were still trying to contact the man in the house. Lights were on inside and they could see him in the window, but he was "not responding to any verbal dialogue," Const. Hobeck said. The biggest priority for police was to establish communication with the man, whom Const. Hobeck said was 46 years old. Officers had tried without success using a loudspeaker and a bullhorn; Const. Hobeck said there was no telephone inside the house. Police could try to get a phone into the home but that would be risky, he said. "We could be out here all night. As long as there's no immediate threat to anybody - our officers, any of the people around or even the individual inside - it's a waiting game." The Rideouts' house is half of a duplex shared with 9 Woodside Ave., the home of Jack and Sadie Murphy. Police were initially unwilling to move the two senior citizens, and their granddaughter, Michelle Andrews, 7, from their house because of safety concerns. When police arrived at the scene, they moved one little girl, who was alone in a home nearby, to the Murphys' house, rather than move her past the house. An officer then entered the Murphy house, told everyone to go to the basement and stayed with the group. Before long, many of the Murphys' other family members gathered outside the Baptist church and nervously waited for them. "You feel sick to your stomach," a nervous Jackie Murphy said about the situation her parents were in. However, at about 7 p.m., a safe route - which didn't enter any possible lines of fire - was arranged and the group left the house. Soon afterward, the Murphys reunited near the church, spoke about the situation and a police officer handed Michelle a teddy bear. Sadie Murphy told reporters she was in her home in the afternoon and then, "I heard two big bangs." She saw some glass flying from a broken window, so she got up to shut her window and close her front door. She didn't realize the noise was coming from next door. "Next thing I knew the police were there," she said. Two people identified by neighbours as Mr. Rideout's son, Randy Burton, and Ms. Rideout arrived at the scene about 20 minutes apart, starting at about 7 p.m. Police handed a cellphone to Randy, a student at Dartmouth High School, and he spoke on it for a few minutes before going into the police force's mobile command bus. Ms. Rideout drove, in the back of a police cruiser, past onlookers into a sealed section of the church parking lot. Neither spoke to media. At about 9 p.m., police began allowing some neighbours back into their homes. Const. Hobeck said he didn't consider the situation a standoff, because they hadn't contacted the man yet. "There's been no defiance to anything we've asked at this point." He said it was possible, since the incident happened in the man's home and might end with no one being hurt, that there might be no penalty. "To this point we've had no direct threats on anybody with the firearms. Nobody was assaulted; there was nobody injured." The officer said North Woodside Community Centre, just up the road from the scene, was being opened up and the Red Cross would be assisting any people displaced from their homes. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 12:09:48 -0600 (CST) From: Breitkreuz@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca, Garry - Assistant 1 Subject: FW: NCRRA Club Champs 2005 _____ From: Don.Moore [mailto:donrae@ncf.ca] Sent: September 15, 2005 1:01 PM Subject: NCRRA Club Champs 2005 National Defence HQ Rifle Association and National Capital Region Rifle Association 11th ANNUAL CLUB CHAMPIONSHIP AND INVITATIONAL MATCH October 1 & 2, 2005 - CONNAUGHT RANGES OTTAWA, ONTARIO ISSF: SFC Match #5261 PPC: CSSA Sanctioned Address All Inquiries To: Don Moore : (613) 235-3690 or pager: (613) 364-0063: donrae@ncf.ca MATCHES: PPC Events: PPC (Police Pistol Combat) 1500, Snub Nose Match & Slug Gun Match ISSF Events: Standard Pistol; Center Fire Pistol; Sport Pistol; Free Pistol & Air Pistol; CDN Events: CDN 1800; LOCATION OF RANGE: Connaught Range is located by the Ottawa River, west of Shirley's Bay. From Hwy. 417 (Exit 134) drive north on Moodie Drive 1.7 km. to Hwy 17B (Carling Ave); turn left (west) and follow Carling Ave 2.6 km to Rifle Road; turn right (north) on Rifle Road 2 km to Shirley's Bay; turn left (west) on Malibar; turn right on Enfield Road to Shirley Blvd. Turn right on Shirley Blvd to outdoor pistol ranges (on left side of road). No cover. ENTRIES: Matches open to ALL competitors. Advance entries greatly appreciated and may allow for confirmation of your relays, especially if your first choice is not available. If a competitor is unable to attend and has not notified the Registrar prior to the match, their registration fee may not be refunded. SCORING, CLASSIFICATIONS & AWARDS: Scoring will be done by the competitors. Signature of competitor on the score card will make the score final. PLEASE bring your stapler to speed up operations. Highest current classification card must be shown for all events except Slug Gun events. Those competitors without a classification card will be entered as Temporary Expert for ISSF and CDN events and as Temporary Master for the PPC events. Each competitor will receive a souvenir and a post-match bulletin. One open award for each event. MASTER will shoot for open awards only. Awards will be given to each class with 7 or more competitors. Class with less than 7 may be grouped with the next higher class. If not sufficient competitors, awards will be in cash. Clubhouse, washrooms, meals and camping (no hookups) available. EYE and EAR protection are MANDATORY. Match rules and procedures are per NRA, CPCA and ISSF rules, as interpreted by the Match Committee. Authorization To Transport: Connaught Range is owned by the Department of National Defence and is NOT a CFO-approved range. Most Ontario long-term ATT's do not authorize the holder to transport restricted firearms to a DND range, thus you will most likely need an ATT specifically for this event. Those that require an ATT to attend DND ranges should call the CFO's office. Call as early as possible to avoid disappointment and delays. 1-800-731-4000, Option 1- Option 1- Extension 7503 or 7541 SCHEDULE Saturday, October 1,2005 Sunday, October 2 1000 hrs ISSF Free Pistol 0800 hrs- CDN 1800 1 1000 hrs ISSF Air Pistol 3 0900 hrs PPC 1500....1 1400 hrs ISSF Air Pistol 4 10.30 hrs PPC Snub....1 11.00 hrs PPC Slug......1 1330 hrs PPC 1500 ...2 1500 hrs PPC Snub 1 1530 hrs PPC Slug 1 1000 hrs Air Pistol 1 1400 hrs Air Pistol 2 1300 hrs ISSF Std. Pistol 1 1430 hrs ISSF CF/Sport Pistol 1 1630 Hrs Dinner In Dinning Hall For more information, contact: Don Moore - Phone: (613) 235-3690 or e-mail: donrae@ncf.ca Pager: (613) 364-0063 Alois (Louie) Lazecky - Phone: (613) 523-4933 or e-mail: aloislazecky@sympatico.ca Figure 1 National Defence HQ Rifle Association and National Capital Region Rifle Association 11th ANNUAL CLUB CHAMPIONSHIPS & INVITATIONAL MATCH ENTRY FORM Name:_____________________________________ SFC# (for ISSF competitors):_________ Address:__________________________________________________________________ City:________________________________ Prov:____ Postal Code:_________________ Club:____________________________ email: ____________________________ Home Phone: ________________________ Bus Phone:___________________________ Classification: PPC:______________ Free Pistol:_________ Air Pistol:____________ CDN:_________ Std Pistol:_________ CF Pistol:__________ Sport Pistol:__________ Schedule: (Circle first choice; Underline second choice) Saturday, October 1. Sunday, October 2 0800 hrs- CDN 1800 1 1000 hrs ISSF Air Pistol 3 0900 hrs PPC 1500 1 1030 hrs PPC Snub 1 1000 hrs ISSF FREE Pistol 1100 hrs PPC Slug 1 1000 hrs ISSF Air Pistol l 1400 hrs ISSF Air Pistol 4 1400 hrs ISSF Air Pistol 2 1300 hrs ISSF Std. Pistol 1 1430 hrs ISSF CF/Sport Pistol 1 1330 hrs PPC 1500 1 1500 hrs PPC Snub 1 1530 hrs PPC Slug 1 FEES. PPC 1500 $20.00 ___________ Team Member's Name:___________________ Snub Nose $ 5.00 ___________ Slug Gun $ 5.00 ___________ Std. Pistol $ 8.00 ___________ CF Pistol $ 8.00 ___________ Free Pistol $ 8.00 ___________ Sport Pistol $ 8.00 ___________ CDN 1800 $ 16.00 ___________ Air Pistol $ 8.00 __________ Registration (Mandatory) $ 6.00 _______6.00 Make cheques payable to NCRRA Pistol Section TOTAL FEES ENCLOSED:$_________ Prize: Plaque___ Cash ___ or donate to Legal Fund___ Send Completed Entry Form to: Don Moore c/o 55 Poplar St., Ottawa, ON, K1R 6V3 SHORT messages 1-866-234-8881 OR FAX : 613-235-3690 OR by e-mail: donrae@ncf.ca ------------------------------ End of Cdn-Firearms Digest V8 #408 ********************************** Submissions: mailto:cdn-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Mailing List Commands: mailto:majordomo@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Moderator's e-mail address: mailto:akimoya@cogeco.ca List owner: mailto:owner-cdn-firearms@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca FAQ list: http://www.magma.ca/~asd/cfd-faq1.html and http://teapot.usask.ca/cdn-firearms/Faq/cfd-faq1.html Web Site: http://teapot.usask.ca/cdn-firearms/homepage.html FTP Site: ftp://teapot.usask.ca/pub/cdn-firearms/ CFDigest Archives: http://www.sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca/~ab133/ or put the next command in an e-mail message and mailto:majordomo@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca get cdn-firearms-digest v04.n192 end (192 is the digest issue number and 04 is the volume) To unsubscribe from _all_ the lists, put the next five lines in a message and mailto:majordomo@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca unsubscribe cdn-firearms-digest unsubscribe cdn-firearms-alert unsubscribe cdn-firearms-chat unsubscribe cdn-firearms end (To subscribe, use "subscribe" instead of "unsubscribe".) 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