From: owner-can-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca (Cdn-Firearms Digest) To: cdn-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Subject: Cdn-Firearms Digest V8 #580 Reply-To: cdn-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Sender: owner-can-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Errors-To: owner-can-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Precedence: normal Cdn-Firearms Digest Thursday, November 3 2005 Volume 08 : Number 580 In this issue: oh look more swill on that big bag of s**t Cretin & Rumsfeld Re: Police want stiffer sentences; Gun-related crime on the rise Now that's hunting the old way! First I heard of this. letter to The Telegram (St. John's) Re: Replace Real Cops with Cardboard Cutouts "Man kills deer with bare hands" Re: Letter: Was Roszko licensed? Man wrestles deer that crashed into house through window: RCMP seized a loaded handgun, three rifles, Deer-hunting season underway Sask. drivers need to watch for deer Editorial: Police protest misfires ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 16:34:58 -0600 (CST) From: paul chicoine Subject: oh look more swill on that big bag of s**t http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=47174 Tuesday, November 1, 2005 - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- - - Michael Moore owns Halliburton! New book debunks claims of celebrity activists - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- - - © 2005 WorldNetDaily.com Michael Moore "I don't own a single share of stock!" filmmaker Michael Moore proudly proclaimed. He's right. He doesn't own a single share. He owns tens of thousands of shares - including nearly 2,000 shares of Boeing, nearly 1,000 of Sonoco, more than 4,000 of Best Foods, more than 3,000 of Eli Lilly, more than 8,000 of Bank One and more than 2,000 of Halliburton, the company most vilified by Moore in "Fahrenheit 9/11." If you want to see Moore's own signed Schedule D declaring his capital gains and losses where his stock ownership is listed, it's emblazoned on the cover of Peter Schweizer's new book, "Do As I Say (Not As I Do): Profiles in Liberal Hypocrisy." And it's just one of the startling revelations by Schweizer, famous for his previous works, "Reagan's War" and "The Bushes." Other examples: House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, who proclaims her support for unions, yet the luxury resort, the vineyard and the restaurants she partly owns are strictly non-union. While she advocates tough new laws enforcing environmental regulations on the private sector, the exclusive country club she partly owns failed to comply with existing environmental regulations for the past eight years - including a failure to protect endangered species. Noam Chomsky has made a reputation for calling America a police state and branding the Pentagon "the most hideous institution on earth," yet his entire academic career, writes Schweizer, has been subsidized by the U.S. military. Barbra Streisand is another proponent of environmentalism, yet she drives an SUV, lives in a mansion and has a $22,000 annual water bill. In the past, she has driven to appointments in Beverly Hills in a motor home because of her aversion to using public bathrooms. Ralph Nader plays the role of the citizen avenger - the populist uninterested in wealth and materialism, pretending to live in a modest apartment. In fact, he lives in fancy homes registered in the names of his siblings. This is not just a book of "gotcha" journalism, explains Schweizer. He says the dozens and dozens of examples of "liberal hypocrisy" he cites in his book "are of central importance in evaluating the validity and usefulness of liberal ideas." "Using IRS records, court depositions, news reports, financial disclosures and their own statements, I sought to answer a particular question: Do these liberal leaders and activists practice what they preach?" he writes. "What I found was a stunning record of open and shameless hypocrisy. Those who champion the cause of organized labor had developed various methods to avoid paying union wages or shunned unions altogether. "Those who believe that the rich need to pay more in taxes proved especially adept at avoiding taxes themselves. Critics of capitalism and corporate enterprise frequently invested in the very companies they denounced. Those who espouse strict environmental regulations worked vigorously to sidestep them when it came to their own businesses and properties. Those who advocate steep inheritance taxes to promote fairer income distribution hid their investments in trusts or exotic overseas locales to reduce their own tax liability. Those who are strong proponents of affirmative action rarely practiced it themselves, and some had abysmal records when it came to hiring minorities. Those who proclaim themselves champions of civil liberties when it comes to criminal or terrorist cases went to extraordinary lengths to curtail the civil liberties of others when they felt threatened or just inconvenienced. Advocates of gun control had no problem making sure that an arsenal of weapons was available to protect them from dangerous criminals." Buy "Do As I Say (Not As I Do): Profiles in Liberal Hypocrisy." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 17:12:21 -0600 (CST) From: Dave Jordan Subject: Cretin & Rumsfeld Hey Joe; Not to belittle the point of your excellently written letter... Quote: Remember Jean Chretien defined proof as "A proof is a proof. What kind of a proof? It's a proof. A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven." But I couldn't help but notice a rather strange similarity with Donald Rumsfeld's famous rather odd insights into the workings of the world. Ref: http://www.slate.com/id/2081042/ The Unknown As we know, There are known knowns. There are things we know we know. We also know There are known unknowns. That is to say We know there are some things We do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns, The ones we don't know We don't know. - -Feb. 12, 2002, Department of Defense news briefing Maybe "Cretin" and Rumsfeld hang around and compare golf balls together? LOL ;) -DRGJ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 18:49:15 -0600 (CST) From: Vladyslav Strashko Subject: Re: Police want stiffer sentences; Gun-related crime on the rise When the criminal suddenly meet a police officer face to face, a new dilemma would come to place: 1. Face big mandatory jail sentence (let's say 10 years which is double from current) 2. Shoot the police officer with hopes that nobody would find him or her. For most people 10 years is nothing but life sentence, so option 2 look very sweet, because freedom is sweet. Would this measure reduce crimes? Well, since such measure only deter people from stepping into the crime world, it might reduce the growth of it, but not the current level. Should we reduce the crime growth with the lives of our police officers, or should we concentrate on catching the criminals and making sure they prosecuted at least with current laws. The last part we cannot do even now... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 19:04:52 -0600 (CST) From: "M.J. Ackermann" Subject: Now that's hunting the old way! http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/WeirdNews/2005/11/02/1289632-ap.html - -- M.J. Ackermann, MD (Mike) Rural Family Physician, Sherbrooke, NS Secretary, St. Mary's Shooters Association President, Guysborough County Horse and Pony Association Member All For Horses Association, Nova Scotia Equestrian Federation Box 13, 120 Cameron Rd. Sherbrooke, NS Canada B0J 3C0 902-522-2172 My email: mikeack@ns.sympatico.ca My Bio: http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/mikeack/mikeack.htm SMSA URL: www.smsa.ca "Hope for the best, but plan for the worst". ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 20:21:38 -0600 (CST) From: "M.J. Ackermann" Subject: First I heard of this. http://www.jpfo.org/shoestring.jpg - -- M.J. Ackermann, MD (Mike) Rural Family Physician, Sherbrooke, NS Secretary, St. Mary's Shooters Association President, Guysborough County Horse and Pony Association Member All For Horses Association, Nova Scotia Equestrian Federation Box 13, 120 Cameron Rd. Sherbrooke, NS Canada B0J 3C0 902-522-2172 My email: mikeack@ns.sympatico.ca My Bio: http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/mikeack/mikeack.htm SMSA URL: www.smsa.ca "Hope for the best, but plan for the worst". ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 22:02:47 -0600 (CST) From: Joe Subject: letter to The Telegram (St. John's) letter sent unpublished Nov.2, 2005 I read your article "Police want stiffer sentences; Gun-related crime on the rise", DATE: 2005.10.29, SECTION: Metro/Provincial News, BYLINE: Danette Dooley with interest. RNCA President Cst. Tim Buckle said, "Police officers are the last line of defence in the community." Well that is not quite true. The last line of defense is the individual who is under attack. That individual must make the decision whether to defend him/herself or not. We have a God given right or natural right to defend ourselves and our families if we choose to do so. We also have a right to life and a right to use a means necessary to defend that life. Although it states on the police cruisers "To serve and Protect", there is no obligation, whatsoever, written into law in Canada or the USA, that police officers are obligated to save your life. Most frequently, they investigate the case well after the fact. Seldom can police ever be present when crimes are in progress. Actually to expect the police to always defend you, your family or your community is asking the impossible. That is why the term and the book "Dial 911 and Die" originated. Only gullible people trust that the police will always be there to protect them. Look how inept the police were at protecting the law-abiding citizens of New Orleans from miscreants when hurricane Katrina struck. That is today's reality. Canadians must be empowered to protect themselves. For centuries, Canadians have owned guns as a means to protect themselves. Mauser and Buckner (1997) discovered that Canadians use firearms 64,000 times a year for self protection against criminals and animals. This reality is always under reported. They estimated that 3,300 lives are saved each year with firearms usually without ever a shot being fired. Police officers are not the last line of defence in the community, we the citizens are. Yours in Tyranny, Joe Gingrich White Fox, Sask. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 06:36:50 -0600 (CST) From: "Jim S." Subject: Re: Replace Real Cops with Cardboard Cutouts Dennis - ...And they don't spend so much time in the UK equivalent of doughnut shops. Can one expect the criminal element to be far behind, with cardboard criminals? Jim Szpajcher St. Paul, AB ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 06:37:40 -0600 (CST) From: Larry James Fillo Subject: "Man kills deer with bare hands" This is the future of deer hunting after Liberal gun confiscation, =20 within a generation. Unless of course, some province stops voting Liberal or opts out of their =20 nefarious schemes altogether. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------=20 = - -------------------------------------------------------- Man kills deer with bare hands =09 BENTONVILLE, Ark. (AP) =97 For 40 exhausting minutes, Wayne Goldsberry =20= battled a buck with his bare hands in his daughter=92s bedroom. Goldsberry finally subdued the five-point whitetail deer that crashed =20= through a bedroom window at his daughter=92s home Friday. When it was =20= over, blood splattered the walls and the deer lay dead on the bedroom =20= floor, its neck broken. Goldsberry was at his daughter=92s home when he heard glass breaking. He = went back to check on the noise and found the deer. I was standing about like this peeking around the corner when the = deer =20 came out of the bedroom,=94 said Goldsberry. The deer ran down the hall =20= and into the master bedroom =97 =93jumping back and forth across the = bed.=94 Goldsberry entered the bedroom to confront the deer and, after a brief =20= struggle, emerged to tell his wife to call police. After returning to =20= the bedroom, the fight continued. Goldsberry finally was able to grip =20= the animal and twist its neck, killing it. Goldsberry, sore from the struggle, dragged the dead animal out of the =20= house. =93He got kicked several times. He was walking bowlegged for a while,=94 = Deputy Doug Gay said. At this time of year, a buck that sees its reflection in a window often =20= charges, believing it is fighting off a rival, Gay said. Goldsberry intended to have the deer processed for its meat. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 06:38:09 -0600 (CST) From: vampire@istar.ca Subject: Re: Letter: Was Roszko licensed? Roszko, was obviously a common man with an above average desire for finances...So he was rather nefarious to say the least, and very outnumbered at his execution. He definitely was not licensed but was on court firearms restrictions/prohibitions.....for previous homosexual assaults and other wyrd things. The synopsis here is that he, like most of us, was FED-UP with home invasions, and police harassments. albeit, the prejudicial bailiff had a good greedy hand in the case of Roszko's truck. Roszko was not gun licensed to the law abiding sense since the firearms act was common man joke to him, and an insult to all of our intelligence ...for us who have any sanity left on this gun registry/gungrab joke. Go ask B. Montague/A.M. Carlos/P.Kearns/Ward and all others that suffered more than the street vandals around the world. Without the so called police, there would be no vandals.. these social workers, take a heavy ego in being Street Brigadiers right out of the Diaper stage... Cheers ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 08:15:37 -0600 (CST) From: Breitkreuz@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca, Garry - Assistant 1 Subject: Man wrestles deer that crashed into house through window: PUBLICATION: The Ottawa Citizen DATE: 2005.11.03 EDITION: Final SECTION: News PAGE: A12 SOURCE: The Associated Press DATELINE: BENTONVILLE, Arkansas WORD COUNT: 187 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Man wrestles deer that crashed into house through window: Five-point whitetail put up good fight, but lost - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ BENTONVILLE, Arkansas - For 40 exhausting minutes, Wayne Goldsberry battled a buck with his bare hands in his daughter's bedroom. Mr. Goldsberry finally subdued the five-point whitetail deer that crashed through a bedroom window at his daughter's home Friday. When it was over, blood splattered the walls and the deer lay dead on the bedroom floor, its neck broken. Mr. Goldsberry was at his daughter's home when he heard glass breaking. He went back to check on the noise and found the deer. "I was standing about like this, peeking around the corner when the deer came out of the bedroom," said Mr. Goldsberry. The deer ran down the hall and into the master bedroom -- "jumping back and forth across the bed." Mr. Goldsberry entered the bedroom to confront the deer and, after a brief struggle, emerged to tell his wife to call police. After returning to the bedroom, the fight continued. Mr. Goldsberry finally was able to grip the animal and twist its neck, killing it. Mr. Goldsberry, sore from the struggle, dragged the dead animal out of the house. "He got kicked several times. He was walking bowlegged for a while," Deputy Doug Gay said. At this time of year, a buck that sees its reflection in a window often charges, believing it is fighting off a rival, Deputy Gay said. Mr. Goldsberry intended to have the deer processed for its meat. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 08:16:28 -0600 (CST) From: Breitkreuz@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca, Garry - Assistant 1 Subject: RCMP seized a loaded handgun, three rifles, PUBLICATION: The Chronicle-Herald DATE: 2005.11.03 SECTION: Nova Scotia PAGE: B7 BYLINE: Dan Arsenault Crime Reporter WORD COUNT: 229 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ RCMP arrest five in drug raid - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ A simultaneous search of five Lake Echo homes at midday Wednesday led to five drug-related arrests and the seizure of marijuana, hashish, cash, weapons and illegally imported American cigarettes. At 12:30 p.m., the Halifax RCMP/regional police integrated drug unit, helped by federal Mounties, raided houses at 17 Minesville Rd., 20 Echo Forest Dr., 2704 Highway 7, 172 Bell Rd. and 180 Bell Rd. Five men, all thought to be in their 20s, were arrested without incident. "It was all conducted as one investigation," said RCMP spokesman Const. Joe Taplin. Two of the houses were unoccupied. Four of them contained drugs, and marijuana was being grown in two. In all, police seized more than seven kilograms of marijuana, 100 young marijuana plants, 30 grams of hash, a loaded handgun, three rifles, a bulletproof vest, 158 cartons containing 200 cigarettes apiece, weigh scales and an unknown amount of money. Const. Taplin said three men will be charged with cultivating marijuana and all five will be charged with possession for the purpose of trafficking. He said charges for unsafe storage of firearms are also likely. Some people who live near 17 Minesville Rd. said the bust didn't surprise them but they wouldn't elaborate. On Echo Forest Drive, some police officers sat outside the two-storey, red and white house at No. 20 and a battering ram and riot shield lay in the driveway. At 180 Bell Rd., an officer was spotted carrying four big plastic bags of bright green marijuana plants at about 1:20 p.m. The arrested men could appear in Dartmouth provincial court this morning. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 08:16:28 -0600 (CST) From: Breitkreuz@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca, Garry - Assistant 1 Subject: Deer-hunting season underway PUBLICATION: Cape Breton Post DATE: 2005.11.03 SECTION: Cape Breton PAGE: A5 BYLINE: chris hayes PHOTO: ray fahey - cape breton post DATELINE: sydney ILLUSTRATION: Dave McGean of North Sydney holds his rifle as he scouts thewoods for signs of deer. The avid hunter was checking the area off the Sydport highway in hopes of a catch. The season runs until the first week in December. WORD COUNT: 243 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Deer-hunting season underway - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Deer-hunting season has opened across Nova Scotia with the provincial Natural Resources Department taking aim at hunter safety. Forty-five thousand deer-hunting licences will be issued in Nova Scotia this year, according to estimates. Natural Resources Minister Richard Hurlburt noted last Friday (the first day of the Oct. 28-Dec. 3 deer-hunting season) that last year's season ended without incident but hunters can't allow themselves to get too relaxed about the need for caution. A Yarmouth County man hunting moose at Cheticamp Lake near Wreck Cove, Victoria County in August died in a hunting accident. Natural Resources noted in a release that hunters must have the proper training, permits and licences. Hunters must obey rules which include requirements to wear hunter's orange, hunt a required distance from residences and other regulations. Natural Resources enforcement officer Ewan MacIntyre, who is based in Cape Breton County, couldn't see any reason for hikers and other non-hunters to avoid the woods during hunting season. "I don't think it is a dangerous time of the year." "If you are in an area you know people are hunting, personally, I would wear something hunter orange. It is not required by law but just to be on the safe side." First-time hunters are required to take the Canadian Firearms Safety Course provided by the Nova Scotia Community College and the Nova Scotia Hunter Education Course co-ordinated by the Nova Scotia Federation of Anglers and Hunters. Bowhunters must take the International Bowhunter Education Program. Hunter education has been mandatory in Nova Scotia since 1980. Deer-hunting season ends Dec. 10 for bow hunters. Nova Scotia has several moose hunting seasons, one of which (Dec. 13-15) is yet to come. chayes@cbpost.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 08:16:30 -0600 (CST) From: Breitkreuz@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca, Garry - Assistant 1 Subject: Sask. drivers need to watch for deer PUBLICATION: The Leader-Post (Regina) DATE: 2005.11.03 EDITION: Final SECTION: City and Provincial PAGE: B1 / Front BYLINE: Erin Morrison SOURCE: Leader-Post WORD COUNT: 414 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Sask. drivers need to watch for deer - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ A new safety campaign has been launched to save deer and cars in Saskatchewan, as the Prairies enter the height of deer-crash season. Go Slow and Save a Little Doe is an awareness campaign, spearheaded by the Saskatchewan Wildlife Federation (SWF) with help from SGI. The campaign is the second phase of the SWF Save a Buck campaign. It is the middle of the most dangerous season for vehicle collisions involving deer. A six-week breeding period for both of Saskatchewan's native deer species is in full swing, expected to peak at the end of November. That means that more deer are crossing the highways, and, according to SGI, that means more vehicle-deer collisions. In 2004, SGI reported a total of 10,760 auto accident claims that were the result of a deer collision. But, 4,440 of those collisions took place over the three-month period covering October, November and December. Claims for collisions with deer in 2004 alone cost SGI's auto fund $26.4 million. During the deer-mating period, called the rut, deer are more likely to be on or near the highway, and less likely to be conscious of oncoming traffic, explained Darrell Crabbe, executive director of the SWF. "They're just a teenager in love," he said. "They're not really aware of what's happening around them." And the result can be fatal, for deer and drivers. "No one wants to see a deer killed this way, but it's mostly for the protection of people and their property," said Crabbe, who noted that most years there are deer-related human fatalities during the rut, including one in 2003 and two in 2002. And, he added, "deer whistles" won't save you. The little whistles that are commonly mounted on cars to ward off deer most likely have no effect, according to Saskatchewan Environment's Doug Lucyshyn. He looked into various studies of the devices, which are said to use ultrasonic sounds to ward off deer. They do not ward off deer, claim the studies done by the University of Wisconsin and the Georgia Game and Fish Department. In fact, most of the devices tested don't even emit ultrasonic sounds. "There's no substitution," said Lucyshyn. "Slow down and just be cautious." Crabbe suggests that drivers watch for highway signs that mark deer paths -- deer are likely, throughout the year, to be crossing the highway in those areas. But during the rut, they will also be crossing just about anywhere else, so the best bet is to slow down on the highway, and be conscientious and ready to stop to avoid an animal. Drivers need to be cautious near the cities as well. "The incidents of collisions are highest around Regina and Saskatoon," said Crabbe, noting that white-tailed deer easily grow accustomed to populated areas, including pets and traffic. Billboards, radio and television announcements, and informational table placemats at select restaurants, will all be used to spread the message. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 08:17:19 -0600 (CST) From: Breitkreuz@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca, Garry - Assistant 1 Subject: Editorial: Police protest misfires PUBLICATION: The Toronto Star DATE: 2005.11.03 EDITION: ONT SECTION: Editorial PAGE: A20 WORD COUNT: 356 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Police protest misfires - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ There is a right way and a wrong way to protest. And police officers, of all people, should know the difference. Sadly, many failed to display such knowledge yesterday. About 1,600 Toronto officers, and thousands of supporters, marched to city hall to rally for a new contract. That is their right. Frustration is understandable given that the officers' last collective agreement expired at the end of last year. Since then, bargaining has been exceedingly difficult. But that cannot excuse some of the tactics employed by the Toronto Police Association in the name of winning a new contract. The latest example was the presence of many officers in full uniform, and carrying firearms, at yesterday's rally. That was in direct defiance of a memo from Chief Bill Blair reminding officers that uniforms are not permitted for such purposes. Union leaders insisted the protesting officers in uniform and carrying a gun were off duty during the march. It would indeed be shocking if anyone on duty had abandoned his or her job of protecting the public to take part in a union rally. It is equally worrisome to see so many supposedly off-duty officers making a point of parading with their weapons in a march held to apply pressure at the bargaining table. Police officers have a difficult and dangerous job. Given their vital role of protecting property and shielding the innocent from harm, society has granted police extraordinary power. Those great responsibilities carry some restrictions. For example, police are not allowed to withhold their services for personal gain by going on strike. And Blair was correct in finding officers should not wear their uniform while marching in pursuit of contract gains. Toronto police are also engaged in a work-to-rule campaign that has cost the city hundreds of thousands of dollars in lost revenue as officers cut back on writing traffic tickets. Far more than money is at stake. To the extent that tickets aren't being written, unsafe driving is going unpunished and the public is being put at increasing risk. The Toronto police union seems ready to escalate its current job action. What it should do instead, in the public interest, is accept management's offer to seek binding arbitration as soon as possible. ------------------------------ End of Cdn-Firearms Digest V8 #580 ********************************** Submissions: mailto:cdn-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Mailing List Commands: mailto:majordomo@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Moderator's e-mail address: mailto:akimoya@cogeco.ca List owner: mailto:owner-cdn-firearms@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca FAQ list: http://www.magma.ca/~asd/cfd-faq1.html and http://teapot.usask.ca/cdn-firearms/Faq/cfd-faq1.html Web Site: http://teapot.usask.ca/cdn-firearms/homepage.html FTP Site: ftp://teapot.usask.ca/pub/cdn-firearms/ CFDigest Archives: http://www.sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca/~ab133/ or put the next command in an e-mail message and mailto:majordomo@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca get cdn-firearms-digest v04.n192 end (192 is the digest issue number and 04 is the volume) To unsubscribe from _all_ the lists, put the next five lines in a message and mailto:majordomo@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca unsubscribe cdn-firearms-digest unsubscribe cdn-firearms-alert unsubscribe cdn-firearms-chat unsubscribe cdn-firearms end (To subscribe, use "subscribe" instead of "unsubscribe".) 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