From: owner-can-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca (Cdn-Firearms Digest) To: cdn-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Subject: Cdn-Firearms Digest V8 #811 Reply-To: cdn-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Sender: owner-can-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Errors-To: owner-can-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Precedence: normal Cdn-Firearms Digest Friday, December 23 2005 Volume 08 : Number 811 In this issue: Top court: guns not a right Hunting ban area expanded Arnprior man fined $1,000 for shooting hunting partner MAN KILLS WIFE, SELF Pot grower must give up his guns, rules high court Grizzly terror; Alone, no gun, no phone, hungry bear at the door U.S. GIs HELD IN GUN RAP New York: Troopers To Help Enforce Gun Laws Dale Blue Re: Top court: guns not a right Re: Britain will be first country to monitor every car journey Re: [Bulk] Britain will be first country to monitor every car Re: [Bulk] CFC: "our office is now closed". CFC Hours ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 11:49:34 -0600 (CST) From: owner-cdn-firearms@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca (Majordomo User) Subject: Top court: guns not a right PUBLICATION: The Daily News (Halifax) DATE: 2005.12.23 SECTION: Local News PAGE: 7 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Top court: guns not a right - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Police found grow-op, licensed guns in home A ban on firearms isn't cruel and unusual punishment for a rural Nova Scotia pot grower, the Supreme Court of Canada ruled yesterday. The top court ruled that owning or possessing a firearm is a privilege, not a right, and one that Philip Neil Wiles could legally lose for committing a crime - even though his crime wasn't violent. "The mandatory prohibition relates to a recognized sentencing goal - the protection of the public, and in particular, the protection of police officers engaged in the enforcement of drug offences," wrote Justice Louise Charron, for the unanimous nine-judge panel. Charron pointed out that if Parliament can require gun owners to be licensed and register their weapons, then it can ban them from owning those weapons when it deems fit. "Possession and use of firearms is not a right or a freedom guaranteed under the Charter, but a privilege." On April 16, 2001, police arrived at Wiles's home, responding to an accidental 911 call by one of his daughters. They found a marijuana grow operation, seized about $2,000 worth of hydroponic grow equipment, and noted six licensed, properly stored guns in the house that they didn't seize. Wiles pleaded guilty to two drug-related charges, but the provincial court judge didn't order the mandatory ban, ruling that the $3,500 penalty - the cost of a fine, plus the six weapons he'd have to forfeit - - was too high for the labourer. But the Nova Scotia Court of Appeal imposed the ban, saying weapons are a big concerns for police officers doing drug raids. Were robberies connected? Police say they're trying to determine if a man nabbed after two Halifax restaurants were robbed could be linked to other metro robberies. The man was caught by patrol officers shortly after he threatened a clerk at the Greco Pizza store on Robie Street with a large meat cleaver. Two men walked into the restaurant around 10:20 p.m. One of the men approached the cash register and asked for a can of pop. When the clerk took the money and opened the till, the second man pushed the clerk aside. A sum of money was taken and the man fled from the store. He was arrested a short distance away from the store. The robbery came shortly after a Robin's Donuts on North Street was robbed in a similar fashion. Around 7:40 p.m. a man pushed a clerk away from the till and grabbed change from the cash drawer. No injuries were reported in either robbery. Police say there have been a number of similar robberies in peninsular Halifax in the last two months they're investigating. It's not known if they can be linked to the man apprehended Wednesday night. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 11:49:53 -0600 (CST) From: owner-cdn-firearms@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca (Majordomo User) Subject: Hunting ban area expanded PUBLICATION: Vancouver Sun DATE: 2005.12.23 EDITION: Final SECTION: WestCoast News PAGE: B2 SOURCE: Maple Ridge Times DATELINE: PITT MEADOWS WORD COUNT: 152 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Hunting ban area expanded on southern banks of Alouette River - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ PITT MEADOWS - Pitt Meadows municipal council voted to amend the discharge of firearms bylaw on Tuesday night, leaving hunters with less room to shoot on the southern banks of the Alouette River, but still allowing harvesting of game on the banks of the Pitt River. Hunters can still shoot on the north side of the Alouette River as well, which Coun. Debra Eisel pointed out is mostly private property. Eisel unsuccessfully lobbied her fellow councillors to consider extending the shooting ban to include the entire Trans Canada Trail, specifically the stretch between the Pitt River Bridge and the Pitt Meadows Marina. Speaking against extending the ban, Mayor Don MacLean said council had reached a fair compromise. "I'm not a big fan of guns but I know also there's been three and four generations of families who have hunted in Pitt Meadows along the dikes," said MacLean. For information, visit www.pittmeadows.bc.ca. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 11:50:25 -0600 (CST) From: owner-cdn-firearms@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca (Majordomo User) Subject: Arnprior man fined $1,000 for shooting hunting partner PUBLICATION: The Ottawa Citizen DATE: 2005.12.23 EDITION: Final SECTION: City PAGE: D10 SOURCE: The Ottawa Citizen WORD COUNT: 110 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Arnprior man fined $1,000 for shooting hunting partner - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ An Arnprior man pleaded guilty to discharging a firearm without due care and attention yesterday. Laurent Chaput, 47, has been fined $1,000 and banned from hunting for one year after an incident in which he shot one of his hunting partners. Mr. Chaput was on a wild turkey hunt with Richard Compton, 62, of Harrowsmith, in May when he fired his shotgun, hitting Mr. Compton in the face, arm, chest and thigh. The injuries were not life threatening. Mr. Chaput had not taken the mandatory Wild Turkey Hunter Education Seminar. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 11:50:28 -0600 (CST) From: owner-cdn-firearms@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca (Majordomo User) Subject: MAN KILLS WIFE, SELF PUBLICATION: The Winnipeg Sun DATE: 2005.12.23 EDITION: Final SECTION: News PAGE: 3 ILLUSTRATION: 1. photo by Bob Holliday An RCMP officer walks near the Anola house where Rob Proulx killed his wife Angela before killing himself. 2. photo courtesy CKY-TV photo of ANGELA PROULX BYLINE: BOB HOLLIDAY, STAFF REPORTER DATELINE: ANOLA WORD COUNT: 442 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ MAN KILLS WIFE, SELF BOYS ORPHANED AFTER ANOLA MURDER-SUICIDE - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Area residents reacted with shock and disbelief at the death yesterday of a community leader, apparently shot by her husband who then killed himself, leaving their two boys orphaned. "The whole town was her friend. She had friends everywhere," said Peter Waite, owner of the Petro Canada Restaurant and former employer of Angela Proulx, 36, shot dead by her husband Rob. RCMP discovered the woman's body inside the couple's rented home on Eastdale Road shortly after 8 a.m., said spokesman Sgt. Steve Colwell. Her husband's body was found outside the home, about 100 metres south of the CNR mainline. He would have turned 39 in a couple of days, said friends. 'WONDERFUL PERSON' "She was a wonderful, bubbly person, always helpful. She was always ready to volunteer," said friend Sally Colomy. "Her boys were her life. She volunteered to work at the breakfast with Santa two weeks ago." About six homes within a half-kilometre radius of the Proulx house were evacuated about 7 a.m., and an eastbound CN freight train was stopped for a short time, said Colwell. "We had our ERU (emergency response unit) team in place and didn't want to risk anything," he said. A woman caller advised RCMP in Oakbank about a possible domestic abuse situation at the home, said Colwell. "The call came from outside the home. We were told firearms were involved, but we have no indication there were shots fired," added Colwell. There was no history of domestic violence at the home, said Colwell. "She was a very nice person who always volunteered at the school and community centre," said Waite. Rob's childhood friend, Ian, choked back the tears as he spoke to the Sun. "I was sick to my stomach when I heard the news," said Ian, who did not want his last name used. "I've known Rob for at least 25 years. We went to different schools but we rode the bus together." RCMP will not release the cause of death until autopsies are performed, said Colwell, but it's believed the husband shot himself. The couple's two sons, ages eight and 10, met the emergency response team at the door about 8 a.m., shortly after telephone contact was made with them, said Colwell. "Now we have to think about the boys, but everybody wants to know why," said Waite. "I feel sorry for the boys. It's pretty crummy. I just saw Angela and the boys the other day. They appeared to be happy," said Pat, a convenience store clerk in Anola. "It's shocking. You don't expect it to happen around here, but things happen. Rob appeared to be very happy when he and his eldest son stopped for lunch at the restaurant last Saturday, said Waite. "They were snowmobiling with another guy and his son," said Ian. "He just got a new sled. We were supposed to go out sledding this week." Ernie Hadaller, who lives nearby, has rented the Proulxs the house on his farm for the past eight years, said yesterday's incident took him by surprise. "This is a total shock to us," he said. "They were good friends, and we're trying to get through our personal feelings ourselves on this." "They were a normal family dealing with normal things, but I would never think it would lead to such drastic measures as this, as far as I could see." But a family friend, who wished to remain anonymous, said: "You hear about people having marriage problems but you don't see this coming. They didn't seem depressed, but I know they were having a few problems, and she was getting ready to leave him." The apparent murder/suicide comes five days after Robert Chuhie, 26, shot and killed his father Fed, 63, at their home near Libau, before shooting himself. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 11:50:40 -0600 (CST) From: owner-cdn-firearms@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca (Majordomo User) Subject: Pot grower must give up his guns, rules high court PUBLICATION: Vancouver Sun DATE: 2005.12.23 EDITION: Final SECTION: News PAGE: A5 SOURCE: Canadian Press DATELINE: HALIFAX WORD COUNT: 233 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Pot grower must give up his guns, rules high court - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ HALIFAX -- Canada's highest court has ruled that a ban on firearms isn't cruel and unusual punishment for a Nova Scotia pot grower. The top court has ruled that owning or possessing a firearm is a privilege, not a right, and one that Philip Neil Wiles could legally lose for growing marijuana at his rural home. "The mandatory prohibition relates to a recognized sentencing goal -- the protection of the public, and in particular, the protection of police officers engaged in the enforcement of drug offences," Justice Louise Charron wrote in a unanimous ruling. Charron pointed out that if Parliament can require gun owners to be licensed and register their weapons, then it can ban them from owning those weapons when it deems fit. "Possession and use of firearms is not a right or a freedom guaranteed under the charter, but a privilege." On April 16, 2001, police arrived at Wiles's home after responding to an accidental 911 call by one of his daughters. They found a marijuana grow operation, seized about $2,000 worth of hydroponic grow equipment, and noted six licensed, properly stored guns in the house that they didn't seize. Wiles pleaded guilty to two drug-related charges, but the provincial court judge didn't order the firearms ban, ruling that the $3,500 penalty -- the cost of a fine, plus the six weapons he'd have to forfeit - -- was too high for the labourer. But the Nova Scotia Court of Appeal imposed the ban, saying weapons are a big concern for police officers doing drug raids. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 11:51:01 -0600 (CST) From: owner-cdn-firearms@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca (Majordomo User) Subject: Grizzly terror; Alone, no gun, no phone, hungry bear at the door PUBLICATION: Yellowknifer DATE: 2005.12.23 BYLINE: Northern News Services ILLUSTRATION: Mike W. Bryant/NNSL photo Kate Tompkins was in a joking moodWednesday as she eyed a fossilized cave bear jaw at John A.'s Paleo Emporium. On Sunday she had a real life bear encounter when a grizzly showed up at her doorstep. WORD COUNT: 492 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Grizzly terror; Alone, no gun, no phone, hungry bear at the door - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Wildlife encounters come every day at Kate Tompkins' Tibbitt Lake home, but she didn't expect to come eye-to-eye with a grizzly bear on her doorstep. It was 6 a.m. Sunday when she was roused from her sleep by her faithful dog Buddy. Tompkins let him out to pee and he began barking wildly. She went outside to check and saw nothing. The dog continued to bark, so bleary-eyed and naked she opened the door once again. "I opened the door and there was this enormous, and I mean huge bear on the porch about three feet away," said Tompkins. "He was on his way through the door, which I had just very conveniently opened for him, of course." She screamed, which stopped the bear momentarily, and then slammed the door shut so violently that she twisted her knee - which later required physiotherapy and a cane. Shaking with fear, she realized the bear was between her and her gun stored in the shed. Her bear spray and bangers were in her boat - also outside. "I shook for a little while and then went back and banged some pots and pans at him," she said. "He just sat there looking at me as if to say, 'Well, bring on the entertainment.'" Finally the bear took off over an embankment, and she was able to get Buddy inside. Tompkins had means to communicate with the outside world but it was a satellite phone which didn't work inside her house. For six hours, Tompkins remained trapped inside her cabin, afraid to venture outside with the dog still barking at the unseen menace. Around noon, with full daylight outside, she felt brave enough to run to the shed to get the gun, but her phone still wouldn't work. "So I had to make a run for the truck, with gun in hand and drive a couple miles up the road before I could get a satellite lock to call," said Tompkins. Less than an hour later wildlife officers appeared at her door, and began looking for the bear. When she later looked at the animal's tracks, she said they appeared to be 12 inches across. The bear had wandered around her cabin, over to a guest house, and into her dormant garden. He left claw marks at her door and on a window. The brute also found his way into the back of her pick-up truck where Tompkins had stacked some garbage and a brand new propane toilet. The grizzly tore off the cardboard packing and into the aluminum toilet itself, which cut his mouth. She later noticed that the bear left a smear of blood on her door jamb. "I've seen lots of animals; the caribou go right through my yard some years," said Tompkins. "I've seen lots of wolves, I've seen lots of black bears, I've seen lots of wildlife, but this is the first time I've ever seen a grizzly bear." The bear eventually wandered towards Yellowknife, some 70 km away. Wildlife officers found it following a fence at the North Slave Correctional Centre on Tuesday, where it was shot. Senior wildlife officer Raymond Bourget said the male grizzly was in very poor condition. It should've been denning, but was unable to because it was old and starving. It was only the second time on record that a grizzly made its way into city limits. Another old male grizzly was found and shot by wildlife officers in November 2004 in almost the same location where this year's bear turned up. Bourget said this grizzly could have been hanging around Ingraham Trail area all year long, even though it's far from its normal range out in the Barrenlands. "There's potential that the bears have started to come down and to adapt to living down here and denning up and stuff," said Bourget. "But at this point we would say it's certainly something that is unusual." Now that she has had a few days to calm down, Tompkins said she feels privileged to have had the encounter. "People shouldn't be afraid," said Tompkins. "One of the main reasons I live here is because we have access to the wilderness. One of the charms of living in the wilderness is you encounter large animals." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 11:51:22 -0600 (CST) From: owner-cdn-firearms@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca (Majordomo User) Subject: U.S. GIs HELD IN GUN RAP PUBLICATION: The Toronto Sun DATE: 2005.12.23 EDITION: Final SECTION: News PAGE: 42 BYLINE: TOM GODFREY, TORONTO SUN WORD COUNT: 107 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ U.S. GIs HELD IN GUN RAP PISTOLS SMUGGLED INTO ALBERTA - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Two U.S. soldiers are charged with smuggling guns across the Canadian border just days before they were to be deployed in Iraq and Afghanistan. U.S. police allege one of the smuggled semi-automatic pistols ended up in the hands of a gang member in Calgary. Dwain Rouse, 22, and Kellen Johnson, 24, of Great Falls, Mont., were arrested last week for possession of drugs, counterfeit money and two counts each of violating the arms export control act. The two are members of the 819th Red Horse Squadron based at Malmstrom Air Force Base in Montana. The U.S. assistant attorney's office in Montana alleges semi-automatic pistols were purchased at the Big Bear Sports Centre between November 2004 and January 2005. The pistols were later driven to Lethbridge, Alta., for delivery. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 11:51:38 -0600 (CST) From: owner-cdn-firearms@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca (Majordomo User) Subject: New York: Troopers To Help Enforce Gun Laws PUBLICATION: The New York Times SECTION: Metropolitan EDITION: Late Edition - Final DATE: 2005.12.23 PAGE: 9 SOURCE: AP; Compiled by John Sullivan WORD COUNT: 104 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Metro Briefing New York: Albany: Troopers To Help Enforce Gun Laws - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The state will hire 100 state troopers as part of a new effort to crack down on illegal gun trafficking, Gov. George E. Pataki said yesterday. The program comes after lawmakers at a special session that Governor Pataki called on Wednesday approved tougher penalties for gun-trafficking offenses. The session followed the death of two New York City police officers, Dillon Stewart and Daniel Enchautegui. Under the $4.5 million project, state police investigators and federal agents will work with local police departments to stop illicit gun sales. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 12:01:45 -0600 (CST) From: Jason Hayes Subject: Dale Blue Just a reminder for Canadian firearms owners. One year ago today, we lost a stalwart soldier in the battle to retain our rights and liberties. On December 23rd, 2004, Dale Blue passed away very suddenly and left a sizable hole in the front lines of the so-called ´gun lobby". Given that Canadian firearms owners are now facing an election and 1. a Liberal government that is demanding a new round of firearms confiscations 2. NDP and Bloc parties who both eagerly cheer on these confiscations 3. and a Conservative Party leader that has openly stated he will get rid of the expensive and ineffective long gun registry. However, he will continue to support the previous expensive and ineffective ´handgun ban¡, Dale s example should encourage us to move forward more vigorously than ever before. If we do not follow in the footsteps of people like Dale Blue, we will lose our rights and freedoms. So, on this day, I suggest that Canadian firearms owners take a moment to remember Dale and the things that he stood for. Then I suggest that you go out and do the same things that he would. Continue the fight for our rights. Jason Hayes ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 12:11:25 -0600 (CST) From: "Bruce Mills" Subject: Re: Top court: guns not a right - ----- Original Message ----- Subject: Top court: guns not a right > The top court ruled that owning or possessing a firearm is a privilege, > not a right, and one that Philip Neil Wiles could legally lose for > committing a crime - even though his crime wasn't violent. > Charron pointed out that if Parliament can require gun owners to be > licensed and register their weapons, then it can ban them from owning > those weapons when it deems fit. > > "Possession and use of firearms is not a right or a freedom guaranteed > under the Charter, but a privilege." There you have it, boys and girls. We are well and truly f&cked. Our right to keep and bear arms has been stolen from us through stelath and duplicity. Despite the ruling of R. v. Sparrow that rights must specifically extinguished, this noble body of jurists has decided for us that the State can just regulate our rights into nothingness... http://www.lexum.umontreal.ca/csc-scc/en/rec/html/2005scc084.wpd.html None of our battles in the Courts will be won. We *must* elect a Conservative government if we are to prevail. Failing that, it's time to man the barricades. Yours in Tyranny, Bruce Hamilton Ontario ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 12:15:14 -0600 (CST) From: Jason Hayes Subject: Re: Britain will be first country to monitor every car journey On Fri, 2005-12-23 at 11:45 -0600, Majordomo User wrote: > Britain will be first country to monitor every car journey > From 2006 Britain will be the first country where every journey by every > car will be monitored Len, When it comes to infringements (potential or actual) on freedoms and liberties, this is something to be concerned about. Jason ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 12:17:12 -0600 (CST) From: "Robert P." Subject: Re: [Bulk] Britain will be first country to monitor every car journey Sender: owner-cdn-firearms@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Precedence: normal Reply-To: cdn-firearms@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Ohh I don't think Britain is the first. What about the (former) Soviet Union. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 12:19:57 -0600 (CST) From: "Robert P." Subject: Re: [Bulk] CFC: "our office is now closed". It is a holiday weekend so the government workers have to leave early so they can have time to enjoy it. Seen it for as long as I can remember. Normally never try to get anything on a Friday afternoon but before a long weekend you might as well write off the Friday (or Thursday if Friday is the holiday). ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 12:44:28 -0600 (CST) From: "Winram" Subject: CFC Hours "Somebody" wrote in todays' Digest: "This morning I telephoned the CFC call centre between 08:30 and 09:00, and again between 09:00 and 09:30 local time, in order to renew an ATT, and got a message informing me that "our office is now closed". The message further stated that the centre is open between "8:30 am and 4:30 PM, Monday to Friday, with the exception of some statutory holidays, when we are closed". It further directed me to the CFC website for more information." As a retired civil servant who knows the ropes and rules of public service I was incensed to hear that the CFC was allegedly closed today so I followed up to verify the allegation. I was fully prepared to write an indignant letter to my MP so I'm really glad that I checked this out first because I found the CFC to be open and fully functional as of 12:15 PM CST. Now, I'm no friend of the Canadian Firearms Centre since I consider that it is a member of the "I vas chust followink orders" school of public service thought but as far as I can tell the posting alleging them to be closed today was incorrect. I think the poster or anyone else should be able to obtain regular service for the rest of the day. Lex Winram ------------------------------ End of Cdn-Firearms Digest V8 #811 ********************************** Submissions: mailto:cdn-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Mailing List Commands: mailto:majordomo@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Moderator's e-mail address: mailto:akimoya@cogeco.ca List owner: mailto:owner-cdn-firearms@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca FAQ list: http://www.magma.ca/~asd/cfd-faq1.html and http://teapot.usask.ca/cdn-firearms/Faq/cfd-faq1.html Web Site: http://teapot.usask.ca/cdn-firearms/homepage.html FTP Site: ftp://teapot.usask.ca/pub/cdn-firearms/ CFDigest Archives: http://www.sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca/~ab133/ or put the next command in an e-mail message and mailto:majordomo@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca get cdn-firearms-digest v04.n192 end (192 is the digest issue number and 04 is the volume) To unsubscribe from _all_ the lists, put the next five lines in a message and mailto:majordomo@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca unsubscribe cdn-firearms-digest unsubscribe cdn-firearms-alert unsubscribe cdn-firearms-chat unsubscribe cdn-firearms end (To subscribe, use "subscribe" instead of "unsubscribe".) 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