From: owner-can-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca (Cdn-Firearms Digest) To: cdn-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Subject: Cdn-Firearms Digest V9 #484 Reply-To: cdn-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Sender: owner-can-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Errors-To: owner-can-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Precedence: normal Cdn-Firearms Digest Saturday, June 3 2006 Volume 09 : Number 484 In this issue: Re: Cdn-Firearms Digest V9 #481 Re: To Lock or Not to Lock SOLDIER FILES LAWSUIT AGAINST MICHAEL MOORE re: 90M unregistered restricteds Re: Women in shelters at risk of being murdered Joe Volpe spoof site Arm them Handgun stolen from gun store U.S. visitor faces weapons charges SO DID THIS OFFICER CHECK THE GUN REGISTRY? STANDOFF ENDS PEACEFULLY Dallaire fears suicidal impulses will take him over the edge: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 21:09:03 -0600 (CST) From: Christopher di Armani Subject: Re: Cdn-Firearms Digest V9 #481 At 07:46 PM 6/2/2006, you wrote: >Bruce, see my response to them from two years ago: > >http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/mikeack/Critique.html Wow... excellent Mike. Well done. As someone said to me the other day, I don't know how you have time to deal with patients, but I'm damned glad you're here on our side. Yours in Liberty, Christopher di Armani christopher@diArmani.com Politicians are like diapers. They need to be changed regularly, and for the same reason. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2006 07:28:15 -0600 (CST) From: vampire@istar.ca (Robert LaCasse) Subject: Re: To Lock or Not to Lock >------------------------------ > >Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 17:16:48 -0600 (CST) >From: Edward Hudson >Subject: To Lock or Not to Lock > >Guns at Home: To Lock or Not to Lock - John Lott Jr. > >It is frequently assumed that safe storage gun laws reduce accidental >gun deaths and total suicides, while the possible impact on crime rates >are ignored. However, given existing work on the adverse impact of >other safety laws, such as safety caps for storing medicine, even the >very plausible assumption of reduced accidental gun deaths cannot be >taken for granted. Trigger locks are just another *Child Proof* system that *aggravates* us adults...as you may have noticed in (safety caps and safety lighters)...The only difference, is, the police have made it an enhanced issue to compromise our safety to give themselves the upper hand in home invasion inquisitions and forfeitures that never stand in court anyway. >This research analyses both state and county data spanning twenty years >in the US, but it finds no support that safe storage laws reduce either >juvenile accidental gun deaths or suicides. Instead, these storage >requirements appear to impair people's ability to use guns defensively. Your not allowed to defend yourself **legally** in Kay_Nuh_Duh, because some weirdo passed a legislation to line his NWO pockets....either that or he want's to get us all killed. Since legal owners are a target made by *lawyers*, the system sees us as easy prey that they cornered with all the gun/storage laws.. All _legal registered_ gun owners have this _storage problem_, the government want's us _(eliminated)_ by the *conditions* of this storage problem....the UN/IANSA have a happy smile on for that one. >Because accidental shooters also tend to be the ones most likely to >violate the new law, safe storage laws increase violent and property >crimes against low risk citizens with no observable offsetting benefit >in terms of reduced accidents or suicides. What we have "accidental shooters?" ..is that the AD/ND type or who really cares what they do with their lawful purchased property.... Oh.........to take it to the (max extension of legalities), "suicide" is against the law...do you care...no,...do I care...no. Hell if *we* don't care, I'm sure we know some remote distant non-sentient *government* doesn't ever care..even if they could. > >(http://garymauser.net/NZ-Seminar.html) > >------------------------------ > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2006 07:29:31 -0600 (CST) From: Joe Subject: SOLDIER FILES LAWSUIT AGAINST MICHAEL MOORE SOLDIER FILES LAWSUIT AGAINST MICHAEL MOORE FOR UNAUTHORIZED AND FALSE PORTRAYAL IN "DOCUMENTARY We've come to expect many things from Michael Moore, the deliriously anti-gun millionaire posing as populist who brought us such absurd and irresponsible works as "Bowling for Columbine," "Stupid White Men," "Dude, Where's My Country?" and "Fahrenheit 9/11." We've come to expect patronizing arrogance, blatant anti-Americanism, and flagrant lies. Well, now he's being called to account by Peter Damon, a double-amputee Iraq war veteran, who's suing the rotund "documentary" filmmaker for $85 million, alleging that Moore manipulated an old NBC "Nightly News" interview to make Damon appear anti-war, and anti-President Bush in "Fahrenheit 9/11." "I just want everybody to know what kind of a guy Michael Moore is, and what kind of film this is," said Damon, who strongly supports the President and the war in Iraq, and never agreed to be in the movie. Damon's lawsuit states, "The work creates a substantially fictionalized and falsified implication as a wounded serviceman who was left behind when Plaintiff was not left behind but supported, financially and emotionally, by the active assistance of the President, the United States and his family, friends, acquaintances and community." "It's upsetting to him because he's lived his life supportive of his government, he's been a patriot, he's been a soldier, and he's now being portrayed in a movie that is the antithesis of all of that," Damon's lawyer, Dennis Lynch, said. SENATE VERSION OF NATIONAL RIGHT-TO-CARRY BILL INTRODUCED U.S. Senator George Allen (R-Va.) recently introduced S. 3275--the Senate version of H.R. 4547, a national Right-to-Carry (RTC) reciprocity bill that would provide national reciprocity for state carry licensees. This legislation would allow any person with a valid carry permit or license issued by a state to carry a concealed firearm in any other state if they meet certain criteria. The bill would not create a federal licensing system; it would simply require the states to recognize each other's carry permits, just as they recognize drivers' licenses. Please be sure to contact your U.S. Senators at (202) 224-3121, and urge them to cosponsor and support S. 3275! nra ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2006 07:31:15 -0600 (CST) From: Barry Snow Subject: re: 90M unregistered restricteds >Subject: Re: Cops targeting 90,000 unregistered weapons: >Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 19:08:49 -0400 >From: Bruce Mills >To: Editor - Vancouver Province , >mramsey@png.canwest.com > > >I wonder where the police get this figure of 90,000 "unregistered >restricted weapons" from. I also wonder if anyone at your paper >realizes that "restricted" firearms are almost exclusively handguns, >with only two types of long guns included. That's a lot of unregistered >handguns. Does this include all the criminally smuggled firearms, too, >or just the ones the police presume are gathering dust in the homes of >ordinary citizens? snip Maybe they have a good idea of how many of the ones that Kim Campbell wanted to be registered had been imported and sold in Canada before and how few were registered after. (C-17) I think there was AR-15 and some AK variant . Actually, I think the AK variant was used in the murder or a Vancouver Dr. who ran an abortion clinic or worked at it. I believe that they found expelled brass and an over capacity magazine and had no clue because no one had registered any of the 30 or 40 thousand of the variant that were known to be in Canada at the time. Barry ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2006 07:31:45 -0600 (CST) From: wrpa Subject: Re: Women in shelters at risk of being murdered >> Women in shelters at risk of being murdered >> >> Canadian Press >> Thursday, June 01, 2006 >> >> The YWCA study released today says of the 368 women interviewed at >> shelters across the country, 77 per cent said they were at a severe risk >> of homicide. > >So because these women _tell_ a sypathetic interviewer that they >are at a "severe risk of homicide" it follows that they really are? > >Is the only criteria for being "at risk of being murdered" simply >stating it as fact? But what if it was true. My thought is that we should provide them with short barreled handguns for their protection. Revolvers only until they can show competence with a semi-auto. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2006 07:32:07 -0600 (CST) From: Bruce Mills Subject: Joe Volpe spoof site http://www.youthforvolpe.no-libs.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2006 08:52:11 -0600 (CST) From: "Jim Thacker" Subject: Arm them Subject: Re: Women in shelters at risk of being murdered >> So because these women _tell_ a sypathetic interviewer that they >> are at a "severe risk of homicide" it follows that they really are? >> Is the only criteria for being "at risk of being murdered" simply >> stating it as fact? > > Bingo! We have a winner! Well you can argue that ones perception is their reality and it may be reasonable to assume they are correct. After all one of the reasons they go to a shelter is the abuse they received. > Talk about a biased sample, too... Not really. If you are discussing the "women in shelter population" and interview a sample of them it is likely an accurate assessment of those womens perceptions. But the main issue here is these womens perception. Why do we not capitalize on it in some way to encourage their receiving a "right to carry." Anyone with any sense, after showing them the statistics on the number who were actually killed and what they did to try and prevent it (call 911, run, hide), would have to come to the conclusion that the only action left is self defence. That is step one. Step two would be to show the best defence is a firearm. Now before anyone says it I realize I did say in here somewhere "anyone with any sense." The women's groups not tending to be all that rationale when it comes to firearms, makes this more difficult, but, once we had them on board with their passion we might get somewhere. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2006 08:53:01 -0600 (CST) From: owner-cdn-firearms@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca (Majordomo User) Subject: Handgun stolen from gun store PUBLICATION: Edmonton Journal DATE: 2006.06.03 EDITION: Final SECTION: CityPlus PAGE: B14 COLUMN: CityPlus Digest SOURCE: CanWest News Service WORD COUNT: 134 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Handgun stolen from gun store - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ EDMONTON - Police are searching for a suspect who stole a handgun from a shooting range and gun store in West Edmonton Mall on Wednesday afternoon. Around 1:30 p.m., the man walked into the Wild West Shooting Range and asked to see a 9mm handgun. Staff members removed the trigger lock and let the man see the weapon. When employees turned around, the man fled the store with the gun. "He showed identification but they did not record it," said Edmonton Police Service spokeswoman Karen Carlson. Staff members told police that the same man had been into the store on Tuesday and had purchased bullets for a 9mm handgun. The suspect was caught on surveillance video. He is described as caucasian, approximately 23 years old with a slim build. He is roughly six feet tall. On the day of the gun theft, he was wearing a green windbreaker over a grey hooded sweatshirt and dark pants. On the day he bought the bullets, he was wearing a grey hooded sweatshirt and jeans. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2006 08:54:28 -0600 (CST) From: owner-cdn-firearms@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca (Majordomo User) Subject: U.S. visitor faces weapons charges PUBLICATION: Times Colonist (Victoria) DATE: 2006.06.03 EDITION: Final SECTION: News PAGE: A3 BYLINE: Matt Hartley SOURCE: Times Colonist ILLUSTRATION: Photo: John McKay, Times Colonist / Const. Brendon LeBlanc with guns that customs officers confiscated from an American tourist in Victoria. WORD COUNT: 452 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ U.S. visitor faces weapons charges: Search of camper van turns up handguns, semi-automatic pistol, rifle and ammunition - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ An American man has been arrested trying to enter Canada via the Coho ferry with four guns in his possession. The man arrived in Victoria around 7:30 p.m. Thursday after catching the ferry in Port Angeles. Officers with Victoria police and the Canada Border Service Agency conducted a search of his camper van, discovering three handguns and a rifle as well as a cache of ammunition for each weapon. Robert Jack Goudreaux, 60, appeared in Victoria provincial court Friday and is charged with numerous weapons offences including careless storage of a firearm, unauthorized possession of a firearm, possession of a restricted firearm with ammunition and unauthorized importing of a firearm. Bail has been set at $1,000 and he will reappear in court on Monday. "We're not sure why he felt he needed to bring them over," police spokesman Const. Brendon LeBlanc said. "The law here is very clear that in order to carry any of these weapons you would need to have a firearms certificate and you would possibly need a permit for the transfer of the weapon." Victoria police said the weapons discovered included a Smith & Wesson .8-calibre special handgun, Smith & Wesson .357-calibre handgun, Remington .22-calibre semi-automatic pistol and a Browning rifle. Ammunition for each weapon was found with the guns. "Weapons and ammunition cannot be transported together," said LeBlanc. "Guns must have a trigger lock and a lock box, and cannot be contained with ammunition." Goudreaux did not declare his weapons when he crossed the border, something he was required to do. He did not have documentation for any of the weapons found in his possession at the time of his arrest. "If you are planning on travelling and your state or country allows you to have access or to carry weapons, ensure you know the laws of the country where you intend to travel," LeBlanc said. Border Security has a website which lets travellers know what items are permissible to take across the border, which they need to declare and which are prohibited. "In Victoria, I don't think there has been an overwhelming number of these cases," LeBlanc said. "But naturally it does strike a chord with police. We are trained to have very prominent reactions to being exposed to any types of weapons." Victoria police are continuing their investigation into the matter alongside the RCMP weapons investigation unit who will work with U.S. agencies to determine the origin of the weapons. According to the Canada Border Services Agency, 19.5 million travellers came through the 43 land, air and marine ports of British Columbia and the Yukon in 2005. More than 4,000 weapons were seized, almost 200 of which were firearms. Anyone wishing to cross the border into Canada -- including Canadians returning from vacation -- should check the Border Information Service website to ensure that what they are bringing with them is not illegal under Canadian law. The border service website can be found at: (http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/eservices/bis/menu-e.html) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2006 08:55:05 -0600 (CST) From: owner-cdn-firearms@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca (Majordomo User) Subject: SO DID THIS OFFICER CHECK THE GUN REGISTRY? AND IF SO, WHAT DID HE FIND OUT? PUBLICATION: The Toronto Sun DATE: 2006.06.03 EDITION: Final SECTION: News PAGE: 14 ILLUSTRATION: photo by Errol McGihon A man believed to be Rodney King of Jasper, Ont., is taken away in an OPP car yesterday. BYLINE: JON WILLING, SUN MEDIA DATELINE: JASPER WORD COUNT: 158 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ COP SHOOTING BUST 51-YEAR-OLD SURRENDERS AFTER 14-HOUR ARMED STANDOFF - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ A tense standoff, which began after a Leeds County OPP constable was shot, ended yesterday morning with a 51-year-old man surrendering to police. OPP negotiators talked with the man over the phone throughout the night to bring a peaceful conclusion to the incident, which lasted more than 14 hours, about 15 km south of Smiths Falls. Const. Chris Trower, a first-class constable with more than five years experience, remained in an Ottawa hospital yesterday, with a non-life threatening gunshot wound. Police would only say Trower was shot in his upper body at about 8 p.m. Thursday. It wasn't until about 10:25 a.m. yesterday that a man who had barricaded himself inside the home gave up and emerged from the house. He was charged with attempted murder. Other charges are pending and he will appear in a Brockville court today. Police didn't release the name of the accused, but municipal officials and local residents identified him as Rodney King who was convicted in July 2002 of possessing prohibited weapons and ammunition. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2006 08:56:23 -0600 (CST) From: owner-cdn-firearms@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca (Majordomo User) Subject: STANDOFF ENDS PEACEFULLY PUBLICATION: The Ottawa Sun DATE: 2006.06.03 EDITION: Final SECTION: News PAGE: 4 ILLUSTRATION: 2 photos 1. photo by Megan Gillis, Ottawa Sun file photo CONST. CHRIS TROWER was in stable condition in an Ottawa hospital yesterday after being shot Thursday. That incident led to a standoff at a rural property near Jasper. Yesterday morning, Rodney King surrendered peacefully to police 2. photo by Errol McGihon, Ottawa Sun photo of RODNEY KING BYLINE: JON WILLING, OTTAWA SUN DATELINE: JASPER COLUMN: Cop Shooting WORD COUNT: 450 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ STANDOFF ENDS PEACEFULLY MAN SURRENDERS TO POLICE AS SHOT OFFICER RECOVERS - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ A tense standoff, which began Thursday night after a Leeds County OPP constable was shot, ended yesterday morning with a 51-year-old man surrendering to police. OPP negotiators talked with the man over the phone throughout the night to bring a peaceful conclusion to the standoff, which lasted more than 14 hours at 70 County Rd. 16, about 15 km south of Smiths Falls. Const. Chris Trower, a first-class constable with more than five years experience, remained in an Ottawa hospital yesterday, recovering from a gunshot wound, which is considered non-life-threatening. Police would only say Trower was shot in his upper body at about 8 p.m. Thursday. It wasn't until about 10:25 a.m. yesterday that a lone man who barricaded himself inside the home finally gave up and exited the house. Police arrested him without incident and took him to an OPP detachment in Brockville, where he is being held. Charges are pending. He will appear in a Brockville court today. Police didn't release the name of the accused, but municipal officials and local residents identified the man as Rodney King. King was convicted in July 2002 of possessing prohibited weapons and ammunition, charges that came after he showed up in a Smiths Falls hospital with a self-inflicted gunshot wound to his knee. An odd trial saw King claim he was an ambassador for the Kingdom of God and wasn't subject to Canadian law. BEHIND IN TAXES In addition to handing him a three-year probation term, the court prohibited King from owning or possessing weapons for 10 years. A township official said ownership of the large property was recently transferred. Yvonne Robert, administrative clerk for Elizabeth-Kitley Township, said King had been behind on his taxes for more than three years. The township warned King about the debt and asked him to either work out an agreement with the municipality or pay the taxes, which didn't happen. The municipality put the property up for sale through tender. A bidder claimed the property in February and would have the rights to it. Robert said the transfer of property would happen between King and the new owner, who's listed on the tax roll as a Richard Seguin. Marc Seguin, whose minivan was parked at the property during the standoff and who said he has a brother named Richard, declined to comment on the events, citing advice from his lawyer. However, he noted he was at the property lawfully and described the situation as "scary." Andy Parent, who was hired to take some goats and geese off the property, said he arrived around 4:30 p.m. Thursday. "When I got there, there were police cars," Parent said, adding that he left for a bite to eat, and when he returned, police didn't allow him back. His white van, which had a snare resting against it, sat in front of the house during the standoff. OPP tactical officers left the scene yesterday just after noon. Russ Radford of Frankville stopped by the property to see the aftermath. The 59-year-old said he was originally interested in buying the property and had planned to meet King. "I was going to see him but I was scared," Radford said, noting he heard King had barricaded himself on the property at least once before. jon.willing@ott.sunpub.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2006 08:57:55 -0600 (CST) From: owner-cdn-firearms@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca (Majordomo User) Subject: Dallaire fears suicidal impulses will take him over the edge: Wonder if he has a POL or a PAL? PUBLICATION: The Ottawa Citizen DATE: 2006.06.03 EDITION: Final SECTION: News PAGE: A9 BYLINE: Charlie Fidelman SOURCE: The Montreal Gazette DATELINE: MONTREAL ILLUSTRATION: Colour Photo: Ian Barrett, The Canadian press / Actor Roy Dupuis salutes retired general Romeo Dallaire yesterday at a news conference announcing the making of a film based on Mr. Dallaire's memoir, Shake Hands with the Devil, about his exploits during the Rwandan genocide. WORD COUNT: 389 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Dallaire fears suicidal impulses will take him over the edge: After years of counselling, the retired general is still haunted by images of the Rwandan genocide - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ MONTREAL - Despite taking medications and receiving psychological and psychiatric help, retired lieutenant-general Romeo Dallaire said he fears his own suicidal impulses may still take him over the edge. "You never know when a smell, a sudden noise, or a conversation will take you back. It's not like having a memory. You are reliving the moment," Mr. Dallaire told an international conference on suicide yesterday. Mr. Dallaire, now a Liberal senator, described his steady spiral into depression and suicide following the 1994 Rwandan genocide of 800,000 people in 100 days. As commander of the UN troops in Rwanda, Mr. Dallaire blamed himself for failing to stop the genocide. Mr. Dallaire chronicled the months spent in Rwanda in a searing memoir, Shake Hands With the Devil: The Failure of Humanity in Rwanda, soon to be a screen adaptation with Roy Dupuis playing the general. Mr. Dallaire said he's haunted by brutal images: The machete-wielding government-sponsored forces involved in killings of entire villages; child soldiers as young as nine years old firing on each other and on peacekeepers; the rape and mutilation of women and girls by tribal extremists. "I lost my sense of humour," Mr. Dallaire said, adding that he found himself wandering through Rwanda's danger zones "trying to get killed." After Rwanda, Mr. Dallaire was diagnosed with post-traumatic stress disorder. He said he tried to kill himself with work. "Sleep would come when I fell," he said, adding that he'd over-eat, stuffing himself "so it would hurt so much, I couldn't think of anything else." At one point, he was found in a near coma from a mixture of alcohol and anti-depressants. He credited the intervention of others for saving him. Today, he takes seven pills including anti-anxiety and anti-depressant medication, and gets regular treatment from a psychiatrist and a psychologist. "But still ... driving by the bridge, I don't know when I'll feel like putting (the car) over the edge," he said. Mr. Dallaire has been speaking publically about post-traumatic stress since 1997. He says mental suffering should be considered on par with physical illness. "Like having a broken arm. So I have to build myself a prosthesis," Mr. Dallaire said. "I hated to see my therapist -- like going to the dentist," he joked, "but I felt much better after." The military has since developed a peer-support strategy for post-traumatic stress, Mr. Dallaire said. Recovering personnel or ex-military act as a listening post for recent veterans. "Their interventions are saving us a suicide a day," Mr. Dallaire said. "That's a lot of people. There's a lot of hurt out there." The 400 delegates at the conference gave Mr. Dallaire a standing ovation. Conference co-ordinator Monique Seguin said Mr. Dallaire's willingness to be candid in public about his own illness will help demystify suicide and perhaps remove the last taboos on the subject. ------------------------------ End of Cdn-Firearms Digest V9 #484 ********************************** Submissions: mailto:cdn-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Mailing List Commands: mailto:majordomo@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Moderator's e-mail address: mailto:akimoya@cogeco.ca List owner: mailto:owner-cdn-firearms@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca FAQ list: http://www.magma.ca/~asd/cfd-faq1.html and http://teapot.usask.ca/cdn-firearms/Faq/cfd-faq1.html Web Site: http://teapot.usask.ca/cdn-firearms/homepage.html FTP Site: ftp://teapot.usask.ca/pub/cdn-firearms/ CFDigest Archives: http://www.sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca/~ab133/ or put the next command in an e-mail message and mailto:majordomo@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca get cdn-firearms-digest v04.n192 end (192 is the digest issue number and 04 is the volume) To unsubscribe from _all_ the lists, put the next five lines in a message and mailto:majordomo@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca unsubscribe cdn-firearms-digest unsubscribe cdn-firearms-alert unsubscribe cdn-firearms-chat unsubscribe cdn-firearms end (To subscribe, use "subscribe" instead of "unsubscribe".) 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