From: owner-can-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca (Cdn-Firearms Digest) To: cdn-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Subject: Cdn-Firearms Digest V9 #619 Reply-To: cdn-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Sender: owner-can-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Errors-To: owner-can-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Precedence: normal Cdn-Firearms Digest Wednesday, July 12 2006 Volume 09 : Number 619 In this issue: CPC begging Police warn against toy guns after incident Press Release from IANSA Gun sale spike prompts border blitz; ABORIGINAL VICTIMS LESS LIKELY TO BE KILLED WITH A FIREARM Re: Gun sale spike prompts border blitz; Canada's Conservatives towing Liberal Line Re: Canada's Conservatives towing Liberal Line COLUMN: WHY CITIZENS MUST OWN AND CARRY FIREARMS Police Chief Declares D.C. Crime Emergency ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 16:42:46 -0600 (CST) From: "mred" Subject: CPC begging To: "VIC TOEWS" , "DAVID SWEET" , "PETER MACKAY" , "STEPHEN HARPER" , "GARY BREITKREUZ" , The Honourable M.P.`s of the CPC I was contacted today by a very impertinent mature "lady" who wanted to know if I still supported the CPC with a donation? I told her yes I was quite willing to continue my support financially,as soon as the gun laws are returned to pre 1995 status . She must have heard this before because she said she would call back then LOL Do you really think I will ??I mean, hear from her again ? ed.ontario ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 17:47:29 -0600 (CST) From: Bruce Mills Subject: Police warn against toy guns after incident http://www.canada.com/windsorstar/news/story.html?id=26fc6785-cae0-44b8-b028-b38436d0285a&k=52666 Police warn against toy guns after incident Sonja Puzic, The Windsor Star Published: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 Carrying a toy gun in public is "an invitation to trouble," Windsor police are warning after a dramatic scene in a McDonald’s restaurant parking lot Monday. Police officers surrounded an unidentified family on Huron Church Road and drew their guns in response to a report that a man was carrying a handgun in his pocket and showing it to someone. The weapon turned out to be a replica pistol. No arrests were made, but the plastic toy gun was seized. "It is a toy, but it can really scare someone," said Insp. Cliff Lovell as he examined the gun and its plastic, yellow pellets Tuesday. Lovell said it would be nearly impossible for an ordinary citizen to determine whether the gun — similar in size and shape to a Smith and Wesson he carries — is a fake weapon. "We take all gun calls very seriously. We can’t take any chances," he said. Police Chief Glenn Stannard said the man who displayed the toy gun should have known better. "That is not a very smart thing to do. If there is a reason for you to have a replica gun, you shouldn’t be carrying it on your body walking down the street. You are asking for trouble. You are asking for confrontation," he said. Stannard said police officers have been trained to use force "from pepper spray to Taser to a lethal firearm" if they feel their lives or someone else’s life is being threatened. He said confusion created by toy, replica or air guns is not a frequent problem for officers patrolling the city, but does occur from time to time. "We don’t get that every week … but his won’t be the first or the last time." Stannard said replica weapons become dangerous when they are used in robberies and assaults. "We worry about the safety of not only our officers, but also store owners and citizens who are confronted with people with these kinds of weapons," he said. In November, a Windsor woman was robbed at gunpoint after a man jumped in the back seat of her car while she withdrew money from a bank machine. After the suspect fled, she realized he used a plastic gun to threaten her. In January, the Township of Scugog, northeast of Toronto, became the first municipality in Ontario to adopt a prohibition on anyone under 18 having a toy gun in public spaces, punishable by a $150 fine. Marilyn Pearce, the mayor of Scugog, has advocated extending the ban to other municipalities in the Greater Toronto Area. But Mayor Eddie Francis, who is chairman of the Windsor Police Services Board, said that won’t happen here. "We’re not even going to go there because it’s a whole issue of whether or not local municipality has jurisdiction over it," he said. "How do you begin enforcing something like that? Go to the toy store and tell them to take (the toy guns) off the shelves? "Basically, the message is: if you’re over a certain age and you are carrying a replica that looks like a gun … you’re inviting a situation you don’t want to invite." spuzic@thestar.canwest.com or 519-255-5777, ext.576 © The Windsor Star ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 19:20:06 -0600 (CST) From: The Infozone Subject: Press Release from IANSA http://www.iansa.org/un/review2006/documents/IANSA%20press%20release%20_7%20July%202006_.pdf UN Arms Talks Meltdown: Conference Allows Global Gun Crisis to Continue Despite the efforts of the majority of governments to secure real change, the long awaited UN Small Arms conference has ended in failure. Hijacked by a small number of states, notably the US, the conference failed to agree on any measures at all to address the global gun crisis. Delegations from many countries in Africa and Latin America, the regions worst affected by gun proliferation, complained that their interests were overlooked. Rebecca Peters, Director of IANSA, said: ‘It is to their lasting shame that governments let this happen: they allowed a small number of states to hold them all hostage and to derail any plans which might have brought improvement in this global crisis.’ The UN small arms review conference, only the second of its kind to be called by the UN, should have provided a clear framework for governments to protect people from gun violence. But it ended in acrimony and frustration as agreement on almost all the major issues was blocked by a handful of states, and no outcome document could be agreed. ‘My country has suffered appallingly from the effects of the uncontrolled arms trade, and continues to suffer because the guns remain among the civilian population even now that our war has ended. We don’t manufacture these guns, yet they end up in our country, erode our security and have terrible consequences for our development,’ said Florella Hazeley of the Sierra Leone Action Network on Small Arms, a member of IANSA. Hazeley continued: ‘I attended this meeting in the hope that the governments of the world would work together to tackle these problems, and to address the needs of the survivors of gun violence. They have failed on all counts. How can I go home and explain this?’ Before talks collapsed completely late today, obstruction had occurred in the following areas: • Progress on global standards for international arms transfers – which would prevent exports to destinations where they might be used for human rights violations – was obstructed primarily by Cuba, India, Iran, Israel and Pakistan. 115 governments had said they supported stronger provisions on transfer controls, and one million people from 160 countries joined the Million Faces petition calling for global arms export standards that was presented to Kofi Annan as the conference opened last week. • Discussion on how strengthening national laws can prevent gun deaths was blocked by the USA. 60% of the world’s guns are in the hands of civilians, and many countries recognise national gun laws as vital to tackling gun violence. • The US refused to allow the conference to acknowledge the impact of small arms proliferation on development. • Despite professing concern about the human cost of small arms violence, governments failed to agree to provide support for the survivors of gun violence. • The US was instrumental in preventing any follow-on global meetings to discuss the small arms trade. PRESS RELEASE Rebecca Peters said: ‘The failure of this meeting will not detract from the enormous amount of work being done at local, national and regional levels around the world to protect people from gun violence. But because gun proliferation is a global problem it does require a global solution, and we will continue to seek ways to make this happen.’ Contact: Anthea Lawson on +1 347 220 2916 (until Saturday evening) or +44 (0)7900 242 869 (from Sunday morning) Notes - ------------------ The Infozone -- Following the truth, and reporting on the journey ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 07:11:32 -0600 (CST) From: owner-cdn-firearms@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca (Majordomo User) Subject: Gun sale spike prompts border blitz; PUBLICATION: The Hamilton Spectator DATE: 2006.07.12 EDITION: Final SECTION: Local PAGE: A7 BYLINE: Paul Legall SOURCE: The Hamilton Spectator DATELINE: Niagara Falls ILLUSTRATION: Photo: Canadian Press File Photo / Niagara border crossings,such as the Peace Bridge, pictured, could see an increasing number of security crackdowns targeting gunrunners. WORD COUNT: 560 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Gun sale spike prompts border blitz; 224 vehicles, 25 vessels searched - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Police and border officials say the recent three-day border enforcement blitz at the Niagara border was sparked by a rash of gun sales in the United States and wasn't related to any specific threat to Canadian security. "It was based on intelligence, information about events going on in the States, not a security concern," said Niagara Detective Constable Mike Woods, who is also a member of the Provincial Weapons Enforcement Unit (PWEU). In recent weeks, Woods added, there have been increased gun sales in states such as Texas where gunrunners have previously purchased weapons to smuggle into Canada. He said a security "fence" was thrown up at the border as a precautionary measure. But there were no specific reports of illegal weapons being destined for Canada. Asked whether the blitz was sparked by a terrorist alert, he replied: "Absolutely not." Nor was the operation prompted by the recent arrest of 17 persons in connection with a homegrown terrorist ring that police claimed was plotting attacks in the Toronto area. Woods said multi-agency enforcement initiatives are now staged periodically at border crossings across the province to stop money launderers and other contraband smugglers as well as gunrunners. The three-day initiative involved members of Niagara regional police (NRP), the Canada Border Services Agency (CBSA) and 12 members of the PWEU. The land and water operation resulted in the seizure of four knives and a can of pepper spray. Several legally owned firearms were also seized from American travellers entering Canada and will be returned to them when they leave the country. No illegal guns were found, however. Officers inspected 224 vehicles and 25 vessels and 121 persons were refused entry into Canada because of criminal records. A man was arrested attempting to enter Canada and is being held in custody pending a deportation hearing. Border officials say they can't release any information about the individual because of privacy laws. In their efforts to stem the gun traffic, Woods said Canadian police work closely with the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF). They also monitor gun shows and other events where guns can be legally purchased in the United States. Last year, it was estimated that about half of the guns used in a rash of gang- related shootings in Toronto came in from the United States. In some cases, they were purchased across the counter from legitimate gun dealers in states with lax gun laws. Earlier this year, police revealed a former Six Nations resident, Earle Cooke, 55, had provided violent Toronto street gangs with dozens of firearms from gun shops in Houston, Texas. Now serving a one-year sentence in North Carolina, he was convicted of giving a bogus Houston address when he bought the guns. On Aug. 13, 2005, two men allegedly involved in a homegrown terrorist plot were arrested at the Peace Bridge in Fort Erie trying to smuggle handguns and ammunition into Canada. They both pleaded guilty last October and received two-year sentences. They are now facing terrorism charges for allegedly plotting terrorist attacks in Ontario. Although no specific security threat was linked with the blitz, CBSA spokesperson Jean D'Amelio-Swyer said the joint operation reflects the increased co-operation among enforcement agencies since the World Trade Center attacks. "We've been in a state of increased vigilance since 9/11," she said yesterday. "The CBSA is committed to continue our partnership with other agencies such as NRP and PWEU to ensure security of our borders and to help make our country safer," she added. With 162 kilometres of shoreline along the Niagara river and two of the Great Lakes, the Niagara frontier has always been a popular crossing point for smugglers. Apart from drugs, alcohol, tobacco and firearms, illegal aliens have also been spirited across the waterways into the United States. plegall@thespec.com 905-526-3385 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 07:11:45 -0600 (CST) From: owner-cdn-firearms@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca (Majordomo User) Subject: ABORIGINAL VICTIMS LESS LIKELY TO BE KILLED WITH A FIREARM PAGE 8: ABORIGINAL VICTIMS LESS LIKELY TO BE KILLED WITH A FIREARM "Over the eight-year time period, Aboriginal people were less likely to be shot to death than non-aboriginal people." - - 13% were killed with a firearms; 44% stabbed; 32% beaten JUNE 6, 2006 - STATISTICS CANADA: Aboriginal people as victims and offenders 2004 http://www.statcan.ca/Daily/English/060606/d060606b.htm ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 07:45:02 -0600 (CST) From: "mred" Subject: Re: Gun sale spike prompts border blitz; - ----- Original Message ----- > PUBLICATION: The Hamilton Spectator > DATE: 2006.07.12 > EDITION: Final > SECTION: Local > PAGE: A7 > BYLINE: Paul Legall > SOURCE: The Hamilton Spectator > DATELINE: Niagara Falls > ILLUSTRATION: Photo: Canadian Press File Photo / Niagara border > crossings,such as the Peace Bridge, pictured, could see an increasing > number of security crackdowns targeting gunrunners. > WORD COUNT: 560 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Gun sale spike prompts border blitz; 224 vehicles, 25 vessels searched > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > It is a little known fact that Canada Customs has spotters at US gun shows > .. Any Canadian plated cars are immediately noted ,attending these shows, and the infromation passed on to all border points. ed/ontario ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 07:58:10 -0600 (CST) From: The Infozone Subject: Canada's Conservatives towing Liberal Line http://www.theinfozone.net/salw-news.html Updated... July 12, 2006 Canada -- New Conservative Government Staying Liberal Course at UN Ambassador Laurin Speaking for Canada? Since being elected in January, Canada's Conservatives have vowed to patch up what many saw as the less friendly relations between Canada and the United States which the previous Liberal government had followed. Prime Minister Harper may have a problem looming on his party's stand on gun control. The Toronto Star reported, "As UN members grapple with a contentious new agreement on combating the small-arms trade, Canada has taken a firm stand for a treaty that would put tough controls on the flow of guns into territories where they can be used to violate human rights. "Canada is supportive, in principle, of a comprehensive, legally binding arms trade treaty that would cover all conventional arms, which prevents the illicit flow of arms to conflict zones," said a statement delivered to the conference by Ottawa's deputy permanent representative to the United Nations, Gilbert Laurin. "(We) pledge to work closely with all involved to advance the early development and adoption of this important instrument," it said. "The current UN program of action for controlling the illicit trade in small arms is voluntary, and although countries are urged to sign up to its principles, there are no legal penalties for those that fail to do so. The negotiations now underway are aimed at strengthening voluntary controls. "The Conservative government's stand on the treaty eases some of the doubts of Canadian gun control advocates, who feared that its plan to end the long-gun registry signalled an about-face on controlling small arms. "But it wins no points in Washington, which threw down the gauntlet at the opening of the conference last week, by opposing many of the principles set out in the program. Opposition from the U.S. and other countries will likely kill efforts to frame a new treaty." In May, Professor Gary Mauser, who attended a meeting of Canada's Disarmament committee wrote, "I recently attended a meeting of the Canadian National Committee on Small Arms and Light Weapons (SALWs) at Foreign Affairs Canada and was shocked at what I was told. "I am writing to ask that you review the attached report before it is presented to the United Nations in June. "The chair of this committee, Earl Turcotte, reported that, even though they do not have a mandate from the new Conservative government, they intend to continue acting as if they had. "The Canadian National Committee on SALW has spent tens of millions of dollars - possibly hundreds of millions -- on a large number of vague "feel good" projects around the world. At least 24 different international programs and initiatives are listed as being funded or largely funded by them. (These are listed in the Report appended to this letter)." Peter Mackay, Canada's Foreign Affairs Minister, in replying to individuals who contacted him wrote: "Thank you for your email of May 15, 2006, concerning small arms and light weapons (SALW). "Combatting the illicit trade in SALW in all its aspects is an important component of Canada's foreign policy agenda. "Canada has been at the forefront of efforts to address the proliferation and misuse of SALW, actively supporting full implementation of the United Nations Programme of Action to Prevent, Combat and Eradicate the Illicit Trade in Small Arms and Light Weapons in All Its Aspects (PoA), adopted by 130 countries in 2001. Under the PoA, countries commit to taking a variety of measures to address the excessive accumulation and uncontrolled spread of SALW used in conflict zones. "Effective transfer controls are key to ensuring that weapons from legal market do not fall into the illicit trade. Controlling transfers helps prevent the illicit accumulation of SALW which can destabilize communities, countries and regions. Canada closely controls the export of military goods and technology to countries that pose a threat to Canada and its allies, countries that are involved in or under imminent threat of hostilities, and countries that are under United Nations Security Council sanctions or whose governments have a persistent record of serious human rights violations. Canada, like many other countries, adheres to a number of international arms control regimes, such as the Wassenaar Arrangement, the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe Document on Small Arms and Light Weapons, and the Organization of American States Inter-American Convention Against the Illicit Manufacturing and Trafficking of Firearms, Ammunition, Explosives, and Other Related Materials. We continue to play an active role in controlling the transfers of SALW within the international community and we will be engaged in this issue at the United Nations Review Conference on Small Arms to take place in New York, from June 27 to July 7, 2006. "Thank you again for taking the time to write." - ------------------ The Infozone -- Following the truth, and reporting on the journey ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 08:11:58 -0600 (CST) From: "mred" Subject: Re: Canada's Conservatives towing Liberal Line - ----- Original Message ----- From: "The Infozone" > http://www.theinfozone.net/salw-news.html > > Updated... July 12, 2006 > > Canada -- New Conservative Government Staying Liberal Course at UN > Ambassador Laurin Speaking for Canada? In other words unarmed citizens are left helpless to be massacred by their own tyranical governments / Read between the lines . Its just more massive control over those who cannot help themselves against tyranny The US, as much as I despise their polticians has the right attitude , born in their revolution, that the citizen MUST be allowed arms for self defense against tyranny. CPC=Liberals =CPC=Liberals ed/ontario ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 08:23:17 -0600 (CST) From: owner-cdn-firearms@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca (Majordomo User) Subject: COLUMN: WHY CITIZENS MUST OWN AND CARRY FIREARMS WHY CITIZENS MUST OWN AND CARRY FIREARMS by Ben Shapiro - July 11, 2006 11:58 PM EST http://www.theconservativevoice.com/article/16045.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 08:56:00 -0600 (CST) From: Bruce Mills Subject: Police Chief Declares D.C. Crime Emergency http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/07/11/AR2006071100720_pf.html Police Chief Declares D.C. Crime Emergency 13 Killings in July Spur Crackdown By Allison Klein Washington Post Staff Writer Wednesday, July 12, 2006; A01 D.C. Police Chief Charles H. Ramsey reacted yesterday to a recent surge in homicides by declaring a "crime emergency," a move that gives him the freedom to quickly adjust officers' schedules and restrict their days off. Thirteen people have been killed since July 1 in the District, and police are being pressured to take action by residents at community meetings and vigils to honor the dead. The victims included a popular store owner slain at closing time, a community activist killed in a park and a British citizen whose throat was slit in Georgetown. "You can't make sense of it because it doesn't make any sense," Ramsey said of the slayings, which have occurred in all four quadrants of the city. "Thirteen people is simply unacceptable by anyone's standards. We have to do something right now." The declaration came on the same day that Ramsey transferred a police official who was accused of making a racially insensitive remark at a community meeting Monday night in Georgetown. Ramsey temporarily reassigned Inspector Andy Solberg, who urged residents to report suspicious activity and said, "This is not a racial thing to say that black people are unusual in Georgetown." Ramsey had declared three previous crime emergencies since becoming chief in 1998, the most recent in December after four people were killed in six hours. The declaration gives him the power to quickly shift the department's 3,800 officers to areas and times they are needed most. He can change schedules without giving officers 14 days' notice, as required under the union contract. Ramsey said he will increase patrols in hard-hit neighborhoods and put nonuniformed officers on the streets to help provide the increased coverage. Ten men, two women and a 16-year-old youth have been killed in the city since July 1. The most recent killing occurred at 1:25 a.m. yesterday in the 3600 block of 22nd Street SE, where Laquanda Johnson, 24, was found fatally shot. A suspect was arrested about 12 hours later in Suitland. Despite the recent uptick in violence, the number of people killed this year is the same as at this point in 2005: 94. But the number of robberies is up 14 percent, and Ramsey and other commanders are concerned that more holdups will turn deadly. "Robbery is a very dangerous crime," Ramsey said. "You are literally one movement away from it being a homicide." Police have linked robbery and homicide in the slaying early Sunday of Alan Senitt, 27, a British citizen who was caught by surprise while walking a friend home along a tree-lined street in Georgetown. Senitt's throat was slashed and his friend was nearly raped, police said. Four suspects are in custody -- including a woman who allegedly drove the getaway car and a 15-year-old who authorities want to prosecute as an adult. Senitt had been working in Washington with a political action committee set up for former Virginia governor Mark R. Warner (D). Two of the suspects in Senitt's killing -- Christopher Piper, 25, and Jeffrey Rice, 22 -- had criminal records. Piper was paroled this year after a prison term for armed robbery and a drug charge. Rice was released in May after serving time for a drug offense and probation violation. Authorities said the two are suspects in at least two robberies that took place in Georgetown in the weeks before Senitt's attack. About 400 people crowded into a church in Georgetown on Monday night to discuss the Senitt killing. Solberg, the commander of the 2nd Police District, was addressing that forum when he made his remarks about race. Senitt was white, and the suspects in the case are black. When he made the comment, Solberg was telling the crowd to report suspicious-looking people to police when they see them in the neighborhood. He talked about the suspects in the Senitt killing and described one as a "chubby, stocky guy" and one as a 15-year-old. He said at 2 a.m. they "are going to stand out" in the area. "They were black," Solberg said. "This is not a racial thing to say that black people are unusual in Georgetown. This is a fact of life." Solberg did not respond to messages yesterday. In an interview after the meeting, he told WJLA-TV (Channel 7), "What should be suspicious is three guys standing out on a street corner at 2 o'clock in the morning." Ramsey said yesterday that Solberg is "a good man, not a racist or anything like that." Ramsey said he opened the investigation because "public trust is not something we can afford to lose." He reassigned Solberg to the police department's security services section pending the outcome of the investigation. Bill Starrells, a member of the Advisory Neighborhood Commission from Georgetown who was at the meeting, said he "winced" when he heard the comment. "Obviously it was out of place," Starrells said. "It was out of character for him. It was an unfortunate comment." He said Solberg has done "great work" in the 2nd Police District. Solberg, a 19-year veteran, took charge of the district in April. Other community activists in Georgetown and downtown said they were surprised that Solberg had been reassigned for the statement. Lowaunz Tascoe, a black shop owner who has lived in Georgetown for almost 40 years, said Solberg had merely stated the truth. "How come people don't know that? These people live in a box?" Tascoe said. " It is highly, highly unusual to see three young black males roaming around up there in the residential neighborhoods." Advisory Neighborhood Commissioner Leroy Thorpe said he suspects that Ramsey transferred Solberg to "play it safe politically" and ease racial tensions over radically different outcomes in two high-profile weekend killings. An arrest was made within hours of Senitt's slaying, but police have yet to catch the person who killed Chris Crowder, 44, a black community activist who was shot early Saturday in a park near the Washington Convention Center. Last night, a crowd gathered in that neighborhood to push for police action. In the Bloomingdale section of Northwest, residents are pressuring police to do more to solve the killing of Maurice "Moe" Darnaby, 35, who was slain about closing time July 1 at his A&L Market. Bloomingdale resident Jim Chambers, who went to a vigil for Darnaby last week, said he was not impressed by the emergency declaration. "I would say the Metropolitan Police Department is always one step behind what needs to be done," Chambers said. "It's a reactive police department, not a proactive one." Leaders of the police union took issue with the declaration. They said the chief lacks an effective crime-fighting strategy. "The question becomes: Is this good policing?" said Officer Kristopher Baumann, chairman of the D.C. police labor committee for the Fraternal Order of Police Lodge 1. "What we need is intelligent, comprehensive crime-fighting strategy rather than reactionary policing." "While it may sound like an amazing mobilization reaction, what it does is allow the chief not to pay officers for overtime," further demoralizing the force, he said. Ramsey said he will reevaluate the emergency declaration in 30 days. In the meantime, he said, he will honor approved vacation requests but will not necessarily grant new requests. "That will be on a first-come, first-served basis," he said. Staff writers Karlyn Barker, Henri E. Cauvin, Lori Montgomery, Robert Samuels and Clarence Williams contributed to this report. © 2006 The Washington Post Company ------------------------------ End of Cdn-Firearms Digest V9 #619 ********************************** Submissions: mailto:cdn-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Mailing List Commands: mailto:majordomo@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Moderator's e-mail address: mailto:akimoya@cogeco.ca List owner: mailto:owner-cdn-firearms@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca FAQ list: http://www.magma.ca/~asd/cfd-faq1.html and http://teapot.usask.ca/cdn-firearms/Faq/cfd-faq1.html Web Site: http://teapot.usask.ca/cdn-firearms/homepage.html FTP Site: ftp://teapot.usask.ca/pub/cdn-firearms/ CFDigest Archives: http://www.sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca/~ab133/ or put the next command in an e-mail message and mailto:majordomo@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca get cdn-firearms-digest v04.n192 end (192 is the digest issue number and 04 is the volume) To unsubscribe from _all_ the lists, put the next five lines in a message and mailto:majordomo@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca unsubscribe cdn-firearms-digest unsubscribe cdn-firearms-alert unsubscribe cdn-firearms-chat unsubscribe cdn-firearms end (To subscribe, use "subscribe" instead of "unsubscribe".) 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