From: owner-can-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca (Cdn-Firearms Digest) To: cdn-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Subject: Cdn-Firearms Digest V9 #732 Reply-To: cdn-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Sender: owner-can-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Errors-To: owner-can-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Precedence: normal Cdn-Firearms Digest Friday, August 18 2006 Volume 09 : Number 732 In this issue: Re: Blastogram: What's With Air Canada? The view from outside the frog boiling pot Gun Play No Way Tories bounce back in poll, but trail in Ontario, Quebec Gun, drugs found in north Etobicoke bust Man caught with drugs, stolen car and loaded gun Re: Gun Play No Way Fortier demands spending, contract answers Globe and Mail Comments Section Re: Gun Play No Way Police: Armed customer stops KFC robbery Re: Gun Play No Way Video: Would-Be Robber Fatally Wounded ? Re: ? No spike in violent crime It takes a village to fight crime ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 16:33:58 -0600 (CST) From: Bruce Mills Subject: Re: Blastogram: What's With Air Canada? Vladyslav Strashko wrote: > Thanks to NRA and Safari club, I didn't have to pay > $50 "special handling fee" for those handguns... but > anyway, would you pay it for this "handling"???? The "gun cash grab" only applies to checked luggage with which you are actually travelling. It does not apply to shipped packages - yet... Yours in Liberty, Bruce Hamilton Ontario ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 23:51:35 -0600 (CST) From: Subject: The view from outside the frog boiling pot > Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 09:01:15 -0600 (CST) > From: "mred" > Subject: Re: Tory MP Garth Turner challenged for riding > > - ----- Original Message ----- >> http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20060816/turner_tory_060816/20060816?hub=Canada >> >> Tory MP Garth Turner challenged for riding >> >> Updated Wed. Aug. 16 2006 3:33 PM ET >> CTV.ca News Staff >> >> Garth Turner, the outspoken Conservative MP for Halton, is facing a >> mobilization of some members of the Christian community who are >> determined to keep him from running in the next election. > > Well the LIberals should love this ?//already we`re fighting amongst > ourselves ... > > Talk about divide and conquer who knows but the anti Turner people arent > Liberals ?? > ed/ontario Lets not forget that Turner upset the CPC with his opposition to the Emerson defection. There will be a lot of knives out for him. I might be the odd man out, even among those that will not accept C-21, but I will not offer any support to the CPC. I will no longer write letters that support them, I will not renew my membership or provide them with any funds. If need be I will begin writing letters trashing them. I realize that there are those of us that suggest that more of us become involved with the party to change their direction but just like we were unable to manage an Ottawa Office we will be unable to infiltrate the CPC in sufficient numbers to change their direction. The more trouble they are in, the more they need those of us that did support them. Trashing the Liberals and NDP is getting us nowhere at the moment, in fact it is hurting us. Here's to hoping for more trouble for the party I am no longer a member of. I and 100,000-150,000 fellow unlicensed Nova Scotian gun owners want to know before C-21 is retabled in JUST a FEW WEEKS why we should support the CPC in any way, shape or form. 30 years of RFC of Canada failure does not inspire confidence in that strategy. Their dancing on the head of a pin has turned into our dancing on the rim of the pot. Al Support criminal control, not placebo gun control ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 07:40:58 -0600 (CST) From: Bruce Mills Subject: Gun Play No Way http://www.citytv.com/events/Toronto/gunplaynoway06/index.asp Gun Play No Way The Great Toronto Gun Exchange August 26th. Join CP24 and police officers from across Ontario for Gun Play No Way – the Great Toronto Gun Exchange. Kids and parents alike are invited to help get rid of toy and replica guns from our communities. On August 26 at Rogers Centre, community police officers will be giving away a pair of tickets to the Toronto Blue Jays/Kansas City Royals game at 4:07pm for every toy or replica gun turned in between 2 & 4pm at gates 3, 5, 10 and 13. So drop off those toy and replica guns at Rogers Centre and help make Toronto a safe and violence-free community! ======================================================================== Can anyone tell what's going on in the background image for that page? It's hard for me to see with my old, decrepit eyeballs... http://www.citytv.com/events/Toronto/gunplaynoway06/images/hdrimage.jpg ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 07:41:14 -0600 (CST) From: Bruce Mills Subject: Tories bounce back in poll, but trail in Ontario, Quebec http://www.canada.com/globaltv/ontario/story.html?id=c6a060df-2917-4b4b-86a1-b2d5b1cd8df6&k=54433 Tories bounce back in poll, but trail in Ontario, Quebec Alexander Panetta Canadian Press Thursday, August 17, 2006 OTTAWA -- The federal Conservatives recovered from a slide in the polls and regained a sizeable lead over the Liberals nationally, but they trail in Ontario and Quebec, a new public-opinion survey suggests. The Tories had 36 per cent support nationally, while the Liberals were at 29 per cent and the NDP at 15, according to a telephone poll by Decima Research Inc. conducted Aug. 10-13. The numbers, which still leave the government well shy of winning a coveted majority, remain problematic for the Conservatives in the crucial battlefield of Quebec. Just a few months ago they were nipping at the Bloc Quebecois’ heels, but they now lag behind by a whopping 18 percentage points. Last week, Decima released a survey suggesting the Tories had dipped to a virtual tie with the Grits — who have yet to elect a leader — amid criticism of the government’s handling of the Hezbollah-Israeli conflict. Decima pollster Bruce Anderson draws one conclusion from the wild swings in public opinion: voter support is up for grabs. “We are talking about whether one voter in 20 feels more inclined to vote Conservative one week, Liberal the next, and Conservative the week after that,” he said. “Fewer people are more rigidly tied to political brands, and there is much that voters feel they don’t yet know about both the Liberals and the Conservatives.” The Tories had dropped to 32 per cent support in a Decima poll conducted at the end of last month — just one percentage point ahead of the Liberals. The latest Decima numbers are similar to the election results that gave the Tories 124 seats, 31 shy of a parliamentary majority. In Quebec, the Bloc had 41 per cent support, the Tories, 23, and the Liberals, 19. In Ontario, the Liberals were at 37 per cent, the Conservatives, 36, and the NDP, 16. The latest survey of 1,004 Canadians is considered accurate to within 3.1 percentage points 19 times out of 20. © Canadian Press 2006 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 07:56:21 -0600 (CST) From: Bruce Mills Subject: Gun, drugs found in north Etobicoke bust http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&pubid=968163964505&cid=1155895389316&col=968705899037&call_page=TS_Ontario&call_pageid=968256289824&call_pagepath=News/Ontario Gun, drugs found in north Etobicoke bust LINDA NGUYEN STAFF REPORTER Aug. 18, 2006. 08:21 AM Three people have been arrested after a gun and more than $175,000 worth of drugs were seized at an apartment in the city’s north end early Thursday morning. Toronto police discovered cocaine, marijuana, crystal meth, hashish oil and ecstasy pills after executing a search warrant at the home on Richview Rd. at Scarlett Rd. near Eglinton Ave. around midnight, police said. A pistol with two rounds of ammunition and an ammunition magazine was also seized, police said. Alen Alibegovic, 29, Sani Alibegovic and Jelisaveta Tomic, 21 face a number drug and gun charges. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 08:09:27 -0600 (CST) From: Bruce Mills Subject: Man caught with drugs, stolen car and loaded gun http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1155852151338&call_pageid=976163513378&col=969048863474 Man caught with drugs, stolen car and loaded gun LINDA NGUYEN STAFF REPORTER Aug. 18, 2006. 02:15 AM A man has been arrested after Toronto police found a loaded gun, a stolen vehicle and cocaine at a west-end garage Thursday afternoon. Police executed a search warrant at a garage on Kipling Ave. around 2 p.m. and discovered a car that had been stolen from York Region in mid-May, police said. Inside a locker at the business, officers found a loaded 9mm handgun, two ammunition magazines and ammunition, said Staff Sgt. William Hurley of 22 division. Ten grams of cocaine worth approximately $1000 and some cash was also seized at the scene, he added. Robert Robbie Russa, 39, faces a number of gun, drug, and theft-related charges. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 08:30:27 -0600 (CST) From: Dan Haggarty Subject: Re: Gun Play No Way At 09:40 AM 8/18/06, Bruce Mills wrote: >[...] >On August 26 at Rogers Centre, community police officers will be giving >away a pair of tickets to the Toronto Blue Jays/Kansas City Royals game >at 4:07pm for every toy or replica gun turned in between 2 & 4pm at >gates 3, 5, 10 and 13. > >So drop off those toy and replica guns at Rogers Centre and help make >Toronto a safe and violence-free community! Gee, I've got an old short barreled pistol, pump action, made of red translucent plastic, that I used to use to control BBQ flare-ups. I could never get it to shoot straight but I guess I could use it to score a couple of cheap tickets to the game. But it wouldn't help to make Toronto a safe and violence-free community. Dan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 09:04:43 -0600 (CST) From: Bruce Mills Subject: Fortier demands spending, contract answers http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20060817.publicworks18/BNStory/Front/home Fortier demands spending, contract answers DANIEL LEBLANC From Friday's Globe and Mail OTTAWA — Public Works Minister Michael Fortier has asked for a report on the status of reforms to overhaul the federal government's procurement and real estate businesses following revelations a consulting contract mushroomed in value and controversy over a fact-finding trip by two senior advisers. The government wants to cut $2.5-billion out of its $13-billion annual procurement budget over the next five years, in part by purchasing goods and services from a smaller number of large suppliers. But before more reforms are made, the minister wants answers on two issues raised by The Globe and Mail this week, a senior Public Works official said: a trip to London by two high-ranking advisers that was marred by missed and cancelled meetings; and a consulting contract with A.T. Kearney Ltd. that was supposed to be worth $15-million over four years but has cost $24-million in only nine months. "The minister has asked for a full report on the A.T. Kearney contract to see whether we obtained value for money," the official said. "Why did we spend more in one year than what we had planned over four years? There was obviously a management problem." The contract was awarded in November by the previous Liberal government, but most of the cost increases occurred after the Conservatives came to power this year. The Public Works official said the increases were approved by the public service bureaucracy, not by Mr. Fortier, who now feels he needs to take more control over the reform process. Public Works spokesman Mario Baril said earlier this week that the contract should be completed this fall, after which the government will put out another contract on the cost-cutting strategy out to tender. But the senior department official said Mr. Fortier wants to ensure there are no further cost overruns beforehand. "We are behind the reform 100 per cent. But what is the best way of undertaking this reform?" the official said. Mr. Fortier is expecting a briefing on the contract when his deputy minister, David Marshall, returns from holidays in Europe later this month. Mr. Fortier also wants information on a recent fact-finding mission to London by David Rotor, a special adviser on the procurement reform, and Douglas Tipple, who is overseeing an overhaul of the department's real-estate business, the official said. Three meetings were cancelled during the trip, prompting officials at Public Works and the High Commission in London to send a total of six letters of apology to their British counterparts. Mr. Tipple had circulated an e-mail to colleagues defending his portion of the trip. He said the missed or cancelled meetings were not linked to his area of responsibility. "Mr. Tipple did not miss any real-estate related meetings of any kind set up by any party," the e-mail says. "The meetings in question involved procurement. The apology letters were not sent by the department on the behalf or as a result of Mr. Tipple's action." Neither Mr. Tipple nor Mr. Rotor returned phone calls from The Globe and Mail. Opposition MPs are hoping to bring the controversy before a parliamentary committee in the fall. New Democrat MP Paul Dewar said the procurement reform "smells to high heaven" and will result in the elimination of competition, leaving only a handful of business giants bidding for federal contracts. "The government is being duped for the amount they will save, and for the amount that they are paying to the consultants," Mr. Dewar said. Many companies that supply goods and services to the federal governments are also upset with the reforms. Liberal MP Marcel Proulx said the government is running into problems because it is trying to reform the entire process at once. "They're putting all their eggs in one basket. If it works, eureka! But if it doesn't, watch out," he said. Former public works minister Scott Brison, who is running for the Liberal leadership, said the government has clearly lost control of the reform. "Is Minister Fortier asleep at the switch?" the Liberal MP asked in an interview. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 09:29:24 -0600 (CST) From: Bruce Mills Subject: Globe and Mail Comments Section This comment from the online comment section for the previous Globe and Mail article on overspending caught my eye, and I thought it just to priceless not to pass along... http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20060817.publicworks18/CommentStory/Front/home#comment342409 #74 Gary Hartlen from Lake Fletcher, N.S., Canada writes: As a young man many years ago, I grew up in a home of Liberal workers. My mom (Lord bless her...a special lady) proudly displayed her personally autographed Happy Birthday photo from Pierre Trudeau. In those days, there tended to be a community resident in charge of local political (read pork-barrel) matters in the community; usually an older lady; the one who did all the hiring and firing for the local Liberal organization. Early in my political life, I suggested, half-jokingly, I was going to vote for Bob Stanfield. This was heresy in our household; : "A son of mine talking Conservative", thinks my mom. I left it at that and then about an hour later I got a call from mom to come back to the house as someone wanted to see me....and there she was.... old Ethel Quinn, the Liberal mover and shaker and I was being called to task. "What's this I hear about you voting Tory" she snorted from behind the kitchen table. I looked at her and declared "Ethel, you just guaranteeed I am voting Tory!"...and that I did! To be fair, I have voted both Tory and Liberal in subsequent years but I never forgot the blind and dumb politics to which I was exposed. I said all this to make this point: This nation is still rampantly full of blind and dumb Liberals who are incapable of objectivity. The party has never changed over the generations. Get a life! Get a mind! Whoops! Sorry! That takes some thinking and you folks are incapable of that! And before you jump all over me and accuse me of being a blind Conservative, remember I said I have voted for either party over the years.....based on issues and local candidates, etc; not on blind party lines. Just a thought...open your brain and mind and try it. You just might survive the crisis in your Liberal life and even feel relief you stepped out on your own into the brave world of political wisdom and insight. Bye Bye. Cheers from the kitchen table! * Posted 18/08/06 at 10:04 AM EDT | Link to Comment ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 12:37:50 -0600 (CST) From: "Calvin Martin, QC" Subject: Re: Gun Play No Way At 09:40 AM 8/18/2006, you wrote: >http://www.citytv.com/events/Toronto/gunplaynoway06/index.asp > >Gun Play No Way >The Great Toronto Gun Exchange August 26th. > >Join CP24 and police officers from across Ontario for Gun Play No Way =AD >the Great Toronto Gun Exchange. Kids and parents alike are invited to >help get rid of toy and replica guns from our communities. > >On August 26 at Rogers Centre, community police officers will be giving >away a pair of tickets to the Toronto Blue Jays/Kansas City Royals game >at 4:07pm for every toy or replica gun turned in between 2 & 4pm at >gates 3, 5, 10 and 13. > >So drop off those toy and replica guns at Rogers Centre and help make >Toronto a safe and violence-free community! > > ====================================================================== >Can anyone tell what's going on in the background image for that page? >It's hard for me to see with my old, decrepit eyeballs... Just a bullet hole in a pane of glass. >http://www.citytv.com/events/Toronto/gunplaynoway06/images/hdrimage.jpg Calvin Martin, QC, 600 Church Street, Toronto, Ontario, M4Y 2E7 Tel 416 922-5854 Fax 416 944-0285 Cell 416 702-5855 Email dvc14@calvinmartinqc.com http://www.calvinmartinqc.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 12:39:11 -0600 (CST) From: "Ed Sieb" Subject: Police: Armed customer stops KFC robbery http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060818/NEWS01/60818008 12:13 PM August 18, 2006 Police: Armed customer stops KFC robbery By Vic Ryckaert vic.ryckaert@indystar.com Police say a would-be robber is in jail this morning after a customer foiled the suspect’s attempted hold-up of a restaurant on the Westside. William McMiller Jr., 40, was arrested on an initial charge of robbery after he demanded money and threatened to shoot a cashier at the Kentucky Fried Chicken, 2801 W. 16th Street, at about 3:20 p.m. Thursday, according to Indianapolis police reports. McMiller, records show, is being held in the Marion County Jail on $80,000 bond. McMiller, police said, ordered a bucket of chicken then told cashier Deanne Slaughter: “Give me the money before I shoot you.” The suspect held his hand in his back pocket as if reaching for a gun, police said, then lifted his foot to jump over the counter. Paul Sherlock, a customer sitting in the dining room, approached and pointed a Taurus 9-mm handgun towards the suspect’s back. The suspect raised his hands over his head, police said. Sherlock ordered him to lean against a window with his hands up until police arrived. Police found a long screwdriver, not a gun, in McMiller’s pocket. Sherlock told The Star today that he was acting on instinct. “I was nervous man, I ain’t gonna lie, not scared though,” he said. “It never crossed my mind that he might try to do something to me.” Sherlock was in the restaurant waiting for a friend who works there when the robbery occurred. The suspect was focused on getting the cash and didn’t notice Sherlock moving in from behind. He said he hopes McMiller spends some time in prison for the crime. “I hope he gets what he deserves,” Sherlock said, “at least a little time to think about what he was doing.” Sherlock had a valid gun permit, police said. Call Star reporter Vic Ryckaert!at (317) 444-2761. Copyright 2006 IndyStar.com. All rights reserved ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 12:43:00 -0600 (CST) From: Bruce Mills Subject: Re: Gun Play No Way Calvin Martin, QC wrote: > Just a bullet hole in a pane of glass. > >>http://www.citytv.com/events/Toronto/gunplaynoway06/images/hdrimage.jpg I was referring to the crappy drawing of what looks like two kids, with the slogan "Gun Play No Way" on it - I can't quite tell what the kids are doing with their hands...one assumes they have a gun of some sort. Yours in Liberty, Bruce Hamilton Ontario ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:03:04 -0600 (CST) From: "Ed Sieb" Subject: Video: Would-Be Robber Fatally Wounded KSAT.com Video: Would-Be Robber Fatally Wounded Police: Bar Owner Shoots, Kills Would-Be Robber POSTED: 7:26 am CDT August 18, 2006 UPDATED: 8:14 am CDT August 18, 2006 SAN ANTONIO -- A bar owner fatally wounded a would-be robber who was armed with a BB gun early Friday. Bexar County sheriff's deputies said that a 21-year-old man walked into the Old Soldiers Club in the 6200 block of Binz-Englemen Road told at 1 a.m. armed with what appeared to look like a .45 caliber handgun. The weapon, though, actually turned out to be a BB gun. When the man tried to rob the bar, the bar owner fired a single gunshot wound to the man's chest, killing him at the scene, deputies said. The man has not been identified. The bar owner is not expected to face charges since his actions were considered to be self-defense. Copyright 2006 by KSAT.com All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed. Video: http://www.ksat.com/print/9699165/detail.html# ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 14:36:56 -0600 (CST) From: Len Miller Subject: ? Has the digest shut down lately ? Are we in silence mode? Regards Len ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 14:47:18 -0600 (CST) From: Bruce Mills Subject: Re: ? Len Miller wrote: > Has the digest shut down lately ? > > Are we in silence mode? > > Regards > > Len Just been a few slow news days, it usually happens this time of year - they call it the "silly season", when any crappy news story can make it to the front page. We can always use submissions from local weeklies, non-major dailies, and non-MSM sources... Yours in Liberty, Bruce Hamilton Ontario ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 16:02:44 -0600 (CST) From: Bruce Mills Subject: No spike in violent crime http://www.hamiltonspectator.com/breakingnews/breakingnews_1456311.html No spike in violent crime Fifth homicide of year 'very typical of Hamilton' John Burman Friday, August 18, 2006 | Updated at 8:38 AM EDT A brutal murder on a city street in broad daylight generates fear and anxiety in the immediate community and the city surrounding it. But Hamilton's fifth homicide so far this year does not mean violent crime in the city is rising. Hamilton police Chief Brian Mullan says the city typically has between nine and 12 homicides a year. "Here we are two-thirds of the way through the year and we have had five murders. "I think that is very typical of Hamilton and does not indicate a spike (in that type of crime,)" he said. Hamilton has been fortunate in recent years to have the second lowest homicide rate in Canada among cities with more than half a million people: 1.3 per 100,000 population. There were nine people slain in the city in 2003, and 10 in 2004 and 2005. Mullan said violent crime has been steadily declining for some time. Although the public believes the level of violence in individual crimes has increased, Mullan said this is not really so. But there has been a change in the types of weapons used in these crimes, from bats and knives to more serious things like guns, he said, and more weapons are being reported in cases such as gas bar robberies where weapons were implied but not shown in the past. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 16:02:56 -0600 (CST) From: Bruce Mills Subject: It takes a village to fight crime http://www.hamiltonspectator.com/breakingnews/breakingnews_1456368.html It takes a village to fight crime Police urging North Enders to form neighbourhood association Daniel Nolan Friday, August 18, 2006 | Updated at 9:51 AM EDT Residents are being urged to form a North End Neighbourhood Association to help stem a rising crime problem, including having two people shot in a housing complex in the last few months. Hamilton police are planning to hold a barbecue Sept. 14 at the Bennetto Community Centre on Hughson Street North to launch what is being termed additional eyes and ears to help police to curb the problem. It will be like a Take Back the Night event, like one recently held in Ancaster. Police, politicians and various residents urged the community to come together last night at a special meeting called to discuss the situation. About 100 people came out, including Mayor Larry Di Ianni, Ward 2 Councillor Bob Bratina, city manager Glen Peace, senior police officials and council hopefuls Judy MacDonald-Musitano, running in Ward 2, and mayoral candidate Diane Elms. "The key to solving the problems in the neighbourhood will be the collective work of all of us," Bratina told the gathering. "I don't think there are many people who can accomplish something by themselves." The community has become alarmed after two young men were shot in the area in July and someone fired a bullet through a window two weeks ago. Those three incidents occurred in the Jamesville social housing complex operated by CityHousing Hamilton. But residents said they've been bedeviled by crime for months, including break-ins, thefts and assaults. One resident told about an elderly woman out front of her home one evening watering her garden who got caught in the middle of an argument between two teenage girls passing her home. One of the girls grabbed the 73-year-old woman and used her as a shield against the other teen. Some residents also complained they have problems getting police to respond or they take too long to respond. Sergeant Randy Drumm, crime manager for what is called North Town -- it includes the North End -- said the area does have street gangs, but said about 60 per cent of the crime is driven by crack-cocaine addiction. "This community has a huge problem and it has to mobilize," he said. "The root of the problem is crack cocaine ... It's the addiction we have to address." He said he recently took part in a sweep of prostitutes in the area and of the 24 women picked up, the majority had a crack pipe in one pocket and a knife in the other. Drumm said he also closed down a tent city which bloomed on a lot and found crack addicts occupying the tents surrounded by stolen bikes. City officials pledged as much resources as needed to solve the problem. "The resources will be there to ensure community safety," Di Ianni told the crowd. "Whatever we need to do, we will be doing ... to ensure people enjoy the quality of life we all deserve." As part of a solution, some residents suggested CityHousing rename Jamesville because it sounds like a problem area in Toronto and there is a business area in the North End called Jamesville. Bratina acknowledged the concern and said residents of the complex will be invited to a meeting to come up with a new and "fancy name." ------------------------------ End of Cdn-Firearms Digest V9 #732 ********************************** Submissions: mailto:cdn-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Mailing List Commands: mailto:majordomo@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Moderator's e-mail address: mailto:akimoya@cogeco.ca List owner: mailto:owner-cdn-firearms@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca FAQ list: http://www.magma.ca/~asd/cfd-faq1.html and http://teapot.usask.ca/cdn-firearms/Faq/cfd-faq1.html Web Site: http://teapot.usask.ca/cdn-firearms/homepage.html FTP Site: ftp://teapot.usask.ca/pub/cdn-firearms/ CFDigest Archives: http://www.sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca/~ab133/ or put the next command in an e-mail message and mailto:majordomo@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca get cdn-firearms-digest v04.n192 end (192 is the digest issue number and 04 is the volume) To unsubscribe from _all_ the lists, put the next five lines in a message and mailto:majordomo@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca unsubscribe cdn-firearms-digest unsubscribe cdn-firearms-alert unsubscribe cdn-firearms-chat unsubscribe cdn-firearms end (To subscribe, use "subscribe" instead of "unsubscribe".) 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