From: owner-can-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca (Cdn-Firearms Digest) To: cdn-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Subject: Cdn-Firearms Digest V9 #743 Reply-To: cdn-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Sender: owner-can-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Errors-To: owner-can-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Precedence: normal Cdn-Firearms Digest Tuesday, August 22 2006 Volume 09 : Number 743 In this issue: Re: shipping Re: Upset neighbour bares teeth over dog training club at Re: Upset neighbour bares teeth over dog training club at 2006 CPCA National Police Shooting Championship Match Re: Upset neighbour bares teeth over dog training club at Got this from a friend RE: Upset neighbour bares teeth over dog training club at Re: shipping Re: shipping Re: Gang link eyed in death Re: Father whacks robber with crowbar Re: Upset neighbour bares teeth over dog training club at Re: Upset neighbour bares teeth over dog training club at Re: Got a date Friday? Google knows Re: Upset neighbour bares teeth over dog training club at PM's foes lining up on left ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 16:13:17 -0600 (CST) From: "mred" Subject: Re: shipping - ----- Original Message ----- > I have just inherited some long guns from my father and I am wondering > what is the best way to ship them from one province to another - any > suggestions? > > thanks, > > a. nicolle I think Fed-ex will ship guns , but you have to be sure and call them first. ed/ontario ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 17:08:59 -0600 (CST) From: Rob Sciuk Subject: Re: Upset neighbour bares teeth over dog training club at > > Thanks for the correction though Bruce -- as irrelevant and unnecessary > > though it was. > > And *I'm* supposed to be the asshole around here! > Fuck you very much, Bobby. Sorry, Bruce. I did not realize that your self appointed role had official status. I suppose though that I should have inferred it from the fact that while I had directed my original post to the Talking Horse - -- you replied. Next time I want to talk to the Horse, I'll speak directly through the asshole, and skip the middleman. 8-D ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 17:15:25 -0600 (CST) From: Bruce Mills Subject: Re: Upset neighbour bares teeth over dog training club at Rob Sciuk wrote: >>>Thanks for the correction though Bruce -- as irrelevant and unnecessary >>>though it was. >> >>And *I'm* supposed to be the asshole around here! >>Fuck you very much, Bobby. > > > Sorry, Bruce. I did not realize that your self appointed role had > official status. I suppose though that I should have inferred it from > the fact that while I had directed my original post to the Talking Horse > -- you replied. Next time I want to talk to the Horse, I'll speak > directly through the asshole, and skip the middleman. 8-D It seems that the irony in my comment was lost on you too - I guess I shouldn't be that surprised, given your general lack of comprehension... Oh, and when I want your opinion, Bobby, I'll give it to you. Yours in Liberty, Bruce Hamilton Ontario ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 17:16:02 -0600 (CST) From: Gil White Subject: 2006 CPCA National Police Shooting Championship Match 2006 CPCA National Police Shooting Championship Match On September 2nd & 3rd, 2006 the Great Plains Shooters Association are hosting the CPCA National Police Shooting Championships at the Regina Wildlife Federation range north of White City, Saskatchewan. These matches are sanctioned by and in affiliation with the Canadian Police Combat Association and spectators are welcome. For additional information and location map please visit The Regina Wildlife Federation Web site, http://nonprofits.accesscomm.ca/rwf/ Gil White RWF Past President ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 17:16:36 -0600 (CST) From: wrpa Subject: Re: Upset neighbour bares teeth over dog training club at >> I'm fed up with inconsiderate assholes that don't give a shit about >> disturbing others with their activities. Yes I will be patient with >> infrequent situations but draw the line when it becomes a regular >> occurrence. > > That sounds like the people that buy next to an airport and then >complain that planes take-off and land on the runways, or the person >that buys next to a farm and whines about tractors and cows being >noisy, and thinks that the farmers shouldn't start work until 9:00am >and 10:30 on weekends. I was speaking about my situation. My neighbors are 15' away. It is a residential city lot. The airport is on the opposite end of the city. You move in beside an airport (or any other pre-existing situation) then it is your own fault. I'm talking about neighbors that don't think about how their activity effects others. A responsible dog owner trainees their dog to not bark continuously and for no reason. You don't let them out late at night and let them bark for an hour. A responsible neighbor does not smoke out the neighborhood with thier fire pit. If you don't want to take into consideration your neighbors then move out to the country. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 17:39:33 -0600 (CST) From: "M.J. Ackermann, MD" Subject: Got this from a friend Subject: History of Beer, Politics, and Other Important Things The two most important events in all of history were the invention of beer and the invention of the wheel. The wheel was invented to get man to the beer. These were the foundations of modern civilization and together were the catalyst for splitting humanity into two distinct subgroups: Liberals and Conservatives. Once beer was discovered, it required grain and that was the beginning of agriculture. Neither the glass bottle nor aluminum can were invented yet, so our early human ancestors just stayed close to the brewery. That's how villages were formed. Some men spent their days tracking and killing animals to BBQ at night while they were drinking beer. This was the beginning of what is known as "The Conservative Movement". Other men who were weaker and less skilled at hunting learned to live off the Conservatives by showing up for the nightly BBQ's and doing the sewing, weaving, and hair dressing. This was the beginning of "The Liberal Movement." Some of these liberal men eventually evolved into women. The rest became known as 'girleymen'. Some noteworthy liberal achievements include the domestication of cats, the trade union, class action lawsuits, the invention of group therapy & group hugs and the concept of Democratic voting to decide how to divide the meat and beer that Conservatives produced. Over the years conservatives came to be symbolized by the largest, most powerful land animal on earth, the elephant. Liberals are symbolized by the jackass. Modern liberals like imported beer (with lime added), but most prefer white wine or imported bottled water. They eat raw fish but like their beef well done. Sushi, tofu and French food are standard liberal fare. Another interesting evolutionary side note: most of their women have higher testosterone levels than their men. Most social workers, personal injury attorneys, journalists, hairdressers, Hollywood dreamers and group therapists are liberals. Liberals invented baseball's designated hitter rule because it wasn't "fair" to make the pitcher bat. Conservatives drink domestic beer and eat red meat & potatoes. Conservatives are big-game hunters, rodeo cowboys, lumberjacks, construction workers, medical doctors, police officers, corporate executives, soldiers, self-employed, athletes, and generally anyone who works productively outside of government. Conservatives who own companies hire other Conservatives who want to work for a living. Liberals produce little or nothing. They like to "govern" the producers and decide what to do with the production. They also like to take money away from successful people and give it to the failures. Liberals believe Europeans are more enlightened than Americans. That is why most of the liberals remained in Europe when Conservatives were coming to America. They crept in after the Wild West was tamed and created a business of trying to get MORE for NOTHING. Thus ends today's lesson in world history. Tomorrow we will discuss the origins of the evolution of whining. - -- M.J. Ackermann, MD (Mike) Rural Family Physician, Sherbrooke, NS Secretary, St. Mary's Shooters Association President, Guysborough County Horse and Pony Association Member All For Horses Association, Nova Scotia Equestrian Federation Box 13, 120 Cameron Rd. Sherbrooke, NS Canada B0J 3C0 902-522-2172 My email: mikeack@ns.sympatico.ca My Bio: http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/mikeack/mikeack.htm SMSA URL: www.smsa.ca "Hope for the best, but plan for the worst". ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 19:19:25 -0600 (CST) From: "Ed Sieb" Subject: RE: Upset neighbour bares teeth over dog training club at Hah! Priceless! From: Rob Sciuk: > > Thanks for the correction though Bruce -- as irrelevant and unnecessary > > though it was. > > And *I'm* supposed to be the asshole around here! > Fuck you very much, Bobby. Sorry, Bruce. I did not realize that your self appointed role had official status. I suppose though that I should have inferred it from the fact that while I had directed my original post to the Talking Horse - -- you replied. Next time I want to talk to the Horse, I'll speak directly through the asshole, and skip the middleman. 8-D ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 19:19:29 -0600 (CST) From: Dan Haggarty Subject: Re: shipping At 05:09 PM 8/21/06, you wrote: >I have just inherited some long guns from my father and I am wondering >what is the best way to ship them from one province to another - any >suggestions? Send 'em via Canada Post (with signature required). Having screwed up so royally last May, they're sure to be extra careful this time. Dan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 21:49:40 -0600 (CST) From: Bob Subject: Re: shipping On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 16:12:26 -0600 (CST), you wrote: |>------------------------------ |> |>Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 15:09:48 -0600 (CST) |>From: owner-cdn-firearms@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca (Majordomo User) |>Subject: shipping |> |>I have just inherited some long guns from my father and I am wondering |>what is the best way to ship them from one province to another - any |>suggestions? |> |>thanks, |> |>a. nicolle |> |>------------------------------ Send them with a secure double registry, so they don't end up on the porch and then stolen like the last guy. Ship secure, Loomis, Purolator, DHL, anything, the question is whether they are registered here or there, to you or another, or registered at all. Some CFO reference would help, if you keep a copy or tape......otherwise a local chapter of the Hell's Angels passing through might drop them off for beer and gas money. - -- Triad Productions-Fantalla©~EZine~ParaNovel National Association of Assault Research http://tarbitch.balder.prohosting.com WWW >>> http://triad.beam.at ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 21:55:21 -0600 (CST) From: Bob Subject: Re: Gang link eyed in death On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 12:59:12 -0600 (CST), you wrote: |>------------------------------ |> |>Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 12:59:12 -0600 (CST) |>From: Bruce Mills |>Subject: Gang link eyed in death |> |>(http://www.ottawasun.com/News/OttawaAndRegion/2006/08/21/1767430-sun.html) |> |>Gang link eyed in death |>No suspects in Vars body find, but victim had history of involvement |>with local Crips So....what am I,..in a "Time Machine" have I been living in Tardis here???? I must be back in time somewhere...maybe it's pre-C-17/68 pre-95'...hell,..pre-historic... The Crips went out ages a go and were history when they started "The Crypt" where the *Jail Trustee of the Crips Teer*, was used as a mock-match for the CryptKeeper. The *Crips* have their own hand language to screw-up their long time foes, The *Bloods*....needless to say, they are all Black guys, and last I heard, a long time ago they shot themselves all over the place.....in an endless advertised slaughter over nothing but Drugs, during the *Miami Vice* era.... You're telling me they are back, hell most would be in their 60's<-->70's like the American-Black Panthers, not the military equipped Afro-Black Panthers. These guys are in their 20's, and these days, even learning gang *hand lingo* is a big job. |> - ----------------------------------------- |>Last month, Ottawa police announced the formation of an 11-member guns |>and gangs unit that will begin patrolling the streets next month. A Ottawa police is gonna take down some little gang at the expense of legal gun owners money, to the tune of $300,000.00 per member, that's some $3,300,000.00 training and HP MP5 arming to get these bad guys who are already shooting each other anyway... |>report released Friday by Criminal Intelligence Service Canada suggests |>Ontario gang members routinely carry guns. These guys can carry guns all over, and get a 6 month probation for all they care, and (legal-gun owners) we get some 5 years and a huge LO$$ for a home trigger lock situation, regarding a legislation that even the anti-gun, Un/Iansa/Brady don't care for anymore. |> |>------------------------------ - -- Triad Productions-Fantalla©~EZine~ParaNovel National Association of Assault Research http://tarbitch.balder.prohosting.com WWW >>> http://triad.beam.at ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 07:48:19 -0600 (CST) From: "mred" Subject: Re: Father whacks robber with crowbar - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry James Fillo" > "Sometimes criminals will mistakenly go to the wrong home." > > Fighting back against robbers isn't necessarily a good idea, Chow said. > "A general rule, not knowing these suspects and what they're capable > of, it's always best to comply, let them get their loot, and call the > police right afterward." Its the same old sh** , dont fight back, let them rob ,rape ,and murder you and your family and then call us IF YOURE ABLE TO ? WHAT A LOAD OF CR**. I`d say that would be a pretty tough call if you`re lying on the floor dead or unconscious . What ever happened "to serve and protect "?(snicker) i PREFER THE "BETTER TO BE JUDGED BY 12 THAN CARRIED BY SIX" And its time THIS message was conveyed to the public. ed/ontario ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 07:48:51 -0600 (CST) From: "mred" Subject: Re: Upset neighbour bares teeth over dog training club at - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Sieb" > > Hah! Priceless! The talking horse speaks and once having spoken moves on as we should all. I posted my opinions of the subject and NEVER expected that it would ever get the RFc to go for the jugular of its members? Lets say that we are not the enemy ??? or do we want to be ? Now that I have your blood up to a boil lets use that angst against our enemies , government and the antis I consider the subject closed as I have voiced my opinion, and given the chance (regain my youth) I would do the same thing again , only in spades. Ed/ontario ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 07:49:50 -0600 (CST) From: "mred" Subject: Re: Upset neighbour bares teeth over dog training club at - ----- Original Message ----- From: "wrpa" >>> I'm fed up with inconsiderate assholes that don't give a shit about >>> disturbing others with their activities. Yes I will be patient with >>> infrequent situations but draw the line when it becomes a regular >>> occurrence. >> >> That sounds like the people that buy next to an airport and then >>complain that planes take-off and land on the runways, or the person >>that buys next to a farm and whines about tractors and cows being >>noisy, and thinks that the farmers shouldn't start work until 9:00am >>and 10:30 on weekends. > > I was speaking about my situation. My neighbors are 15' away. It is > a residential city lot. The airport is on the opposite end of the city. > You move in beside an airport (or any other pre-existing situation) then > it is your own fault. I'm talking about neighbors that don't think about > how their activity effects others. A responsible dog owner trainees their > dog to not bark continuously and for no reason. You don't let them out > late at night and let them bark for an hour. A responsible neighbor > does not smoke out the neighborhood with thier fire pit. If you don't > want to take into consideration your neighbors then move out to the > country. I never ever in 30 years had a complaint about my training retrievers, (only on here LOL) primarily because I pointed out to the neighbors it was excellent conservation practice to retrieve dead or crippled birds and they also enjoyed the fruits of my hunts from time to time (pheasants ,ducks, geese.) Anybody who is a TRUE sportsman and conservationist could see the benefits of a well trained dog. You get what you pay for nothing free in this world. end of discussion. ed/ontario ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 07:50:14 -0600 (CST) From: "mred" Subject: Re: Got a date Friday? Google knows - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jason Hayes" > On Monday 21 August 2006 07:45 am, Bruce Mills wrote: >> A bit off topic, but good information to know about, so you can take >> steps to protect your privacy... >> > It is fundamentally irrational to ignore very clear warnings that your > e-mail will be scanned when signing up for an absolutely free e-mail > service and then pretend like you have been violated by big industry > when (horrors) your e-mail has been scanned. > > -- > Jason Hayes It is worth notng that Google keeps a record of your searches for much longer than other search engines and makes the search information availlabale to government,. I posted on this several weeks ago. ed/ontario ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 07:54:07 -0600 (CST) From: Bruce Mills Subject: Re: Upset neighbour bares teeth over dog training club at mred wrote: > I consider the subject closed as I have voiced my opinion, and given the > chance (regain my youth) I would do the same thing again , only in spades. > Ed/ontario And on that note, the topic will be closed. Further discussion on this matter will be summarilly deleted. Bruce Mills Moderator Pro-Tem Canadian Firearms Digest ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 07:54:24 -0600 (CST) From: Bruce Mills Subject: PM's foes lining up on left http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1156197009965&call_pageid=970599119419 PM's foes lining up on left Three parties see the environment as winning issue But will split in opposition only help Harper? SUSAN DELACOURT OTTAWA BUREAU CHIEF Aug. 22, 2006. 03:08 AM OTTAWA — In the coming days and weeks, Prime Minister Stephen Harper will be given a large-scale view of the forces arrayed against him on what's seen as Canada's political or "progressive" left. The environment is emerging as the uniting cause. The divisions are rooted in intense competition for non-Tory voters. How it all shakes out could determine how Harper fares in the next election — majority, minority or back to the opposition benches. The Green Party of Canada chooses a new leader in Ottawa this weekend. In early September, the federal New Democrats will hold a huge convention in Quebec City, at which leader Jack Layton will be appealing for all progressive voters to unite under the NDP banner in the next election. That same weekend, in the same city, the Liberal leadership contest gears up again for another all-candidates' debate and the big push to the December vote for a new chief. And in the meantime, this week, the Liberal caucus is gathering in Vancouver to plot Commons strategy for the fall. Some might see this as an embarrassment of riches in the realm of alternatives to the Conservatives. Others might argue Harper is now blessed with the same gift that helped the federal Liberals win so many elections between 1993 and 2004 — a fragmented opposition. Scattered though these three parties are — and often at loggerheads — they collectively gathered up more than half of the ballots cast in the last election. The Liberals earned 30.2 per cent, the New Democrats won 17.5, and the Green party pulled in 4.5 per cent, though with no Commons seats to show for that standing. The Conservatives won their minority government with just 36 per cent of the vote. Moreover, the opposition parties are zeroing on the environment as a major weak spot for the Tories as fall looms. The Green party, naturally, claims ownership of this issue, but New Democrats and Liberals are concentrating more on the environment almost daily. It is probably not an accident Harper's government has loudly telegraphed its intention to come up with a so-called "made in Canada" green plan as one of the policy priorities for the fall — if only to pre-empt the rising chorus from the opposition. Just yesterday, Liberal leadership contender Michael Ignatieff released his environmental policy and underlined, as other candidates have, that this is an issue that clearly pits his party against Harper. "Harper's Conservatives have ignored the climate-change issue and have created an irresponsible policy vacuum that sends the wrong message to Canadians, the wrong message to the business community, and the wrong message to the world. This vacuum is delaying critical investments in energy efficiency, clean technology, and greenhouse gas reductions that are needed today," Ignatieff said in a statement accompanying the policy release. Ignatieff is proposing higher taxes on "dirty" fuels and lower taxes on cleaner fuels, as well as a cap on carbon emissions for industry. His plan proposes to reduce Canada's carbon dioxide emissions to at least 50 per cent below 1990 levels by 2050. Ignatieff says this market-oriented, polluter-pay system will allow Canada to take a leadership role globally and perhaps inspire other countries to follow. Other candidates, notably former environment minister Stéphane Dion, have also made the issue a centrepiece of their leadership campaigns. Brad Lavigne, communications director for the NDP, says it may be oversimplifying to cast the Greens, New Democrats and Liberals as one, large, left-wing mass. The NDP, more than other parties, has done some intense study of the Greens' vote and has found that people who cast their ballots that way could just as likely vote Conservative. And sometimes, the Green party vote is just citizens' way of saying "none of the above." "If the Green party disappeared tomorrow, it might realistically mean an extra 1 per cent for the NDP, an extra 1 per cent for the Liberals and, yes, an extra 1 per cent for the Conservatives," Lavigne says. The NDP believes the environment is rising up as an issue because the Liberals did so little to meet expectations they raised in 13 years of power, he says. But Liberals say they are still in the best position to act upon the rising interest in the environment and progressive politics as an alternative to Harper. "I don't think progressives are divided," says Gene Lang, a former Liberal aide now working with Bob Rae's leadership campaign. "I think Harper has motivated them and has forced them to clarify their narrative and policies...And I think if the Liberal party selects the right leader ... centrist progressives in the NDP and Green parties will come into the Liberal fold if they truly want to defeat Harper and have a progressive government in Ottawa." Lise Jolicoeur, a spokesperson for candidate Ken Dryden's team, agreed Liberals need not worry about fragmented opposition. "The NDP, the Bloc Québécois and the Green party were around during (Jean) Chrétien's majority Liberal governments," she says. "To me, the NDP will have great trouble in the next election explaining to the public and to their supporters why they should vote for a party that can't win and where such a vote will only ensure a Conservative government which will move in directions exactly opposite to what the NDP is supposed to believe." This tension among the Liberals, Greens and NDP — not over policy, but over "winnability" — will be one of the political dynamics to watch as things heat up this fall. Conservatives, banking on a fractious opposition, may well decide that the more, the merrier for their re-election chances. 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