From: owner-can-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca (Cdn-Firearms Digest) To: cdn-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Subject: Cdn-Firearms Digest V9 #763 Reply-To: cdn-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Sender: owner-can-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Errors-To: owner-can-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Precedence: normal Cdn-Firearms Digest Friday, September 1 2006 Volume 09 : Number 763 In this issue: and now for something completely, completely different FYI Re: and now for something completely, completely different Re: and now for something completely, completely different Re: and now for something completely, completely different Re: and now for something completely, completely different Winning the War Letter to Toronto Star (unpub) ... letter to Nipawin Journal Hospital murder-suicide unforeseen, report concludes Ugly Poll - send a letter plan to stiffen bail terms for gun crimes Personal data bylaws assailed African-Canadian Public Works advisers sent packing ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 09:01:28 -0600 (CST) From: paul chicoine Subject: and now for something completely, completely different For those of you who have family serving overseas, those who have been overseas or for those who support our troops, I thought you might like to know about this. Its our fault the US have not achieved victory according to a US Senate hopeful. As you know elections are shaping up in the US. One evening I caught a political message from a Ms.Cris Ericson who is running for the US Senate from Vermont as a Republican. It was late, I was tired and I guess I was imagining things but didn't she just call Canada a racist, white supremacist, country? Naw, I must be dreaming. A couple days later I decided to look into this again and this is what I got: *************** Hello Last week I happened upon a commentary by US Senate candidate Cris Ericson broadcast on WPTZ. In her comments Ms. Ericson stated her belief that Canada was a racist, white supremacist country and that the US could not hope to achieve victory in Iraq and Afghanistan as long as Canada, the UK and Australia were allies to the US in those conflicts. Do you have a link to the video of her comment or a link to the text of her comment? __________ Paul Chicoine Non Assumpsit Contract - All Rights Reserved - Without Prejudice ___________________________________________________ The reply from: Cris http://crisericson.com Hi! Please refer to the C.I.A. world factbook online. Scroll to Canada, scroll to chief of state, Queen Elizabeth II, monarchy, there are no elections for the monarchy it is hereditary. Then go to any dictionary and look up white, caucasian, racist, supremacist. Then e-mail me whenever the highest office in Canada is ever held by a Black, Jew, Oriental, Muslim, Indian. For further reference, read the Declaration of Independence of the United States of America, July 4, 1776. Tyrants, that's what we call the crown. Now, in the 200 and more years we've been calling the Crown a tyrant, has there ever been anyone other than a white, caucasian holding the crown? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 09:01:59 -0600 (CST) From: paul chicoine Subject: FYI > 9/11: THE FALLING MAN > September 11 2001 was a day that forever changed America. It was a day > of many stories: stories of survivors, stories of heroes. But one story > simply disappeared. The story of the people who began to fall just > minutes after the first plane hit. They were called the jumpers, but > soon they were never spoken about again, as if they had never existed. > One photograph stood for them all. Anyone who saw it never forgot it. It > is one of the most unforgettable images from 9/11: a photograph of a > falling man, frozen in mid-air, perfectly parallel with the lines of the > World Trade Center. The Falling Man is a journey to identify the man in > that startling image. > > Visit the web feature to read more about this story and explore the > facts behind the picture that America tried to forget. > http://www.cbc.ca/passionateeyesunday/fallingman/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 09:12:05 -0600 (CST) From: Bruce Mills Subject: Re: and now for something completely, completely different paul chicoine wrote: > Tyrants, that's what we call the crown. > Now, in the 200 and more years we've been calling > the Crown a tyrant, has there ever been anyone other > than a white, caucasian holding the crown? Ask him when the last time someone other than a white, caucasian, male was President... Sexist bastards. Yours in Liberty, Bruce Hamilton Ontario ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 09:19:56 -0600 (CST) From: paul chicoine Subject: Re: and now for something completely, completely different - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce Mills" > Ask him when the last time someone other than a white, caucasian, male > was President... > > Sexist bastards. He is a she Bruce. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 09:28:24 -0600 (CST) From: Bruce Mills Subject: Re: and now for something completely, completely different paul chicoine wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bruce Mills" > >>Ask him when the last time someone other than a white, caucasian, male >>was President... >> >>Sexist bastards. > > > He is a she Bruce. He, she, it, them - whatever, they're still a hypocrite, whatever they are...not to mention monumentally stupid. Yours in Liberty, Bruce Hamilton Ontario ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 09:39:56 -0600 (CST) From: Bruce Mills Subject: Re: and now for something completely, completely different Bruce Mills wrote: > paul chicoine wrote: > > >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Bruce Mills" >> >>>Ask him when the last time someone other than a white, caucasian, male >>>was President... >>> >>>Sexist bastards. >> >> >>He is a she Bruce. > > > He, she, it, them - whatever, they're still a hypocrite, whatever they > are...not to mention monumentally stupid. And at least *OUR* tyrant is a woman! So there, nyaahhh! Yours in Liberty, Bruce Hamilton Ontario ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 10:21:25 -0600 (CST) From: "Jim Szpajcher" Subject: Winning the War Paul, Bruce - > In her comments Ms. Ericson stated her belief that Canada was a racist, > white supremacist country and that the US could not hope to achieve > victory in Iraq and Afghanistan as long as Canada, the UK and Australia > were allies to the US in those conflicts. Mind you, the U.S. cannot hope to achieve victory in Iraq and Afghanistan at any price. The participation of Canada, the UK and Australia is incidental to the conduct and the reasons for this conflict. "The war in Iraq is lost. All that remains for America is to determine the size of her humiliation." - Ehud Barak, in a comment to Dick Cheney, 2003. Quoted in "Chain of Command" by Seymour Hersh. Jim Szpajcher ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 10:52:31 -0600 (CST) From: Rob Sciuk Subject: Letter to Toronto Star (unpub) ... Sad to read about hunting extension (fwd) Dear Sir/Madame, I read with bewilderment letter writer Jane Crotin's opinion which decried a small change to hunting regulations by extending the season slightly as "likely that once again political pressure to cull or eradicate wildlife comes from the Ontario Federation of Anglers and Hunters (OFAH) and not from responsible ecologists or conservationists." While Ms. Crotin certainly has the right to an opinion, hers thankfully, is not the only perspective which counts, and hunting is neither controversial, irresponsible nor particularly cruel, but remains a very valuable tool in wildlife management and conservation strategies. When any population is subjected to an imbalance through changes in climate, food supply, predation, sickness or some other environmental variable, the tendancy is for that population to oscillate wildly over a number of generations. As populations swing upward, the risk of disease, new predators and starvation is increased, and typically a natural "cull" occurs to cause the population to drop off precipitously. Any ecologist will attest to the population models, and in truth nature can be far more cruel than man. Over time, as the population once again re-establishes an equilibrium around the numbers which their environment will support, these wild swings in population size will moderate until the species once again approaches the newly established sustainable optimal. Cruel, but efficient, and ultimately the only way to save the species itself. Ms. Crotin would be surprised to learn that hunters and anglers are the most conservation minded people on the planet, and that many conservation programs are initiated funded and supported by those who might from time to time harvest the bounty in an ethical and responsible manner. The reintroduction of wild turkeys to the Eastern seaboard is a prime example of just such diligence and progressive managment projects undertaken by those who Ms. Crotin suggests simply wish only to "eradicate" wildlife. Sincerely, Robert S. Sciuk Oshawa, Ont. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 12:25:02 -0600 (CST) From: Joe Subject: letter to Nipawin Journal sent unpublished I read "Google me this ..." Wednesday August 23, 2006 in the Nipawin Journal. Canada's firearms law targeting law-abiding citizens has become nothing more than a failed Liberal experiment. Using C-68 the police do not have an advantage over the criminals nor have they improved public safety. We see alleged cop killers such as Jim Roszko of Mayerthorpe, Ab. and Pepin of Laval, PQ. who were criminals with court ordered firearm prohibition orders, but in possession of firearm(s). According to govt. figures, these are merely two of over 176,000 criminals with similar release conditions who are not checked, followed, screened, scanned. searched nor incarcerated for violating them. Also according to govt. figures over 39,000 people with court ordered Canada wide restraining orders are not tracked by police. In addition, there are over 197,000 outstanding arrest warrants for individuals under the criminal code and 850 parolees who fail to report on any given day in Canada. Also, criminals don't register themselves or their firearms and never will. However, most Liberals, NDP and Bloc still think it is worth $2 billion of OUR money trying to control crime by attacking the innocent which is what our gun law does. The government must abolish C-68 and create a logical gun law which fixates its attention on criminals. One alternative is a Firearms Prohibition Registry (FPR) containing lists of criminals and/or those mentally impaired whom the courts have ruled should not acquire or possess firearms. Such a registry could be used by police, with the resources now applied toward monitoring Canada's innocent, to instead track Canada's criminals. It is useless for police to use lists of law-abiding citizens for finding criminals. The gun registry only contains Canada's best citizens, its law-abiding firearms owners. Yours in Tyranny, Joe Gingrich White Fox ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 15:46:51 -0600 (CST) From: Bruce Mills Subject: Hospital murder-suicide unforeseen, report concludes Not "gun related", but I'm sure that you can draw parallels between this case and a case where someone did use a gun...note the evil "military-style knife" reference. http://www.canada.com/globaltv/ontario/story.html?id=7d843276-1823-466f-9aed-a0d45a262e7f&k=67985 Hospital murder-suicide unforeseen, report concludes Doug Schmidt CanWest News Service; Windsor Star Thursday, August 31, 2006 WINDSOR, Ont. - It was impossible to predict a murder-suicide involving a doctor and a nurse at a Windsor, Ont., hospital, according to an internal report released Wednesday. Dr. Marc Daniel stabbed to death nurse Lori Dupont, his ex-lover, with a military-style knife on Nov. 12, 2005 in a recovery room at Hotel-Dieu Grace Hospital. Daniel, an anesthesiologist and married father of two, who had bipolar disorder, stalked the nurse before killing her. Less than an hour after the attack on the 36-year-old single mother, Windsor police discovered Daniel, 50, slumped behind the wheel of his parked car on a city street. He'd injected himself with an overdose of medication and never regained consciousness before dying three days later. "It is clear from this report that the murder was an unforeseen event and was not predicted by anyone," said hospital board chairman Bill Marra, who sat on the committee to review the tragedy. Despite what its authors describe as a "thorough and comprehensive" process that took nine months, the report is thin on facts to support that conclusion. Dupont's closest friends and colleagues, including those present that morning, most of her family, and her union, the Ontario Nurses Association (ONA), all declined to participate in the probe. Only two nursing managers agreed to be interviewed. No members of the hospital administration agreed to be interviewed. No one with any knowledge of the troubled relationship from among the hospital's two professional oversight bodies, even replied to the review committee's requests for information. The committee was forced to rely on personnel records, internal files and "related documents," some written comments and the information that could be gleaned from nine interviews over several months. When Dupont first approached senior hospital administration seven months before she was killed to describe Daniel threatening and harassing her, Daniel was already under a 12-month probation as a result of formal grievances filed the previous year by two other nurses. He'd broken a third nurse's finger on another occasion. Dupont and Daniel had a rocky relationship which ended in February 2005 after the doctor injected himself with a potentially lethal dose of medication in front of Dupont. He was admitted into the hospital's psychiatric unit where he was diagnosed with bipolar disease and then put on a regimen of medication and psychiatric care. He was allowed to return to work in the operating room, under medical supervision, less than three months later. But in an oversight the committee was at a loss to explain, Daniel's reappointment application required annually of all physicians wanting to maintain their Ontario hospital privileges was never signed by his supervisors, nor forwarded, as is required under the Public Hospitals Act, to the vetting committees where his behaviour, including his probationary status, would have been scrutinized. Meanwhile, Dupont and Daniel continued to work in close proximity and the instances of documented threats, a number of which are contained in Wednesday's report, continued to mount. According to the report, hospital security guards were issued photos of the doctor during his brief medical suspension in the spring of 2005 and confidentially told he could be removed from the OR "in the event a problem arises." Dupont was provided guarded escorts to and from her vehicle and the hospital supported her application in April 2005 for a restraining order against the doctor. Her peace bond hearing had been scheduled for December a month after she was murdered. The hospital's report also acknowledges that after Daniel's return to work, Dupont's nursing colleagues actively tried to keep the doctor away from the nurse, usually by intercepting him whenever it was Dupont's turn to receive one of his surgical patients. Windsor police launched a criminal negligence probe but concluded there was insufficient evidence to lay charges. Dupont's family filed a $13-million civil suit earlier this year, and Ontario's chief coroner announced an inquest into the tragedy. Despite ongoing informal complaints and concerns expressed to supervisors and managers, the hospital's review committee reports that Dupont "did not put any of her concerns in writing and no grievance was filed by ONA." The report also states Dupont also declined "specialized scheduling" that may have kept her apart from the doctor. But elsewhere in the report, the authors add: "This may not have been absolutely workable within the PACU (post-anesthetic care unit, or recovery room), however, as both Ms. Dupont and Dr. Daniel were there every day." After the in-camera session at which board members received the report, Marra met with reporters. He said a new committee of the board and administration would "study the report and develop recommendations for going forward." Hotel-Dieu CEO Neil McEvoy said hospitals and other employers "need to develop more effective means of intervening in the unstable personal relationships of our employees within the workplace." It was a "tragic incident (that) has affected all of us very deeply, at the hospital and throughout the community," Marra said. In April the hospital adopted a state-of-the-art personal alarm locator system. It spent more than $400,000 to equip each of its 2,000 employees and volunteers with panic buttons as part of its workplace violence prevention program. The system replaced one in which the alarms could be activated only in high-risk areas, such as the emergency room. Windsor Star © CanWest News Service 2006 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 16:00:56 -0600 (CST) From: Vladyslav Strashko Subject: Ugly Poll - send a letter Ugly Poll (Letter sent!) http://www.theglobeandmail.com/ Should the federal government's proposed crackdown on bail provisions related to gun crimes include non-violent long gun offences? Yes - 7056 votes (40%) 7056 votes No - 10716 votes (60%) 10716 votes Total votes: 17772 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 17:56:32 -0600 (CST) From: 10x <10x@telus.net> Subject: plan to stiffen bail terms for gun crimes This one will allow more pitfals for gun owners who forget to renew their firearms licenses. Just more liablity to legal possession of a gun. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20060830.wtoews0830/BNSto ry/National/ Tories plan to stiffen bail terms for gun crimes KAREN HOWLETT Globe and Mail Update OSHAWA, Ont. - The federal government plans to unveil legislation that would make it more difficult, if not impossible, for those facing gun-related charges to be released on bail. Justice Minister Vic Toews said Wednesday that the government plans to toughen the bail provisions in the Criminal Code by introducing a so-called reverse onus provision. Such a change would essentially put the onus on those facing charges to convince the courts that they do not pose a danger to the community. Mr. Toews said a reverse onus provision is already part of the legislation on narcotics-related crimes. "We believe it can also be done appropriately with gun crimes," he told reporters following a lunch speech to the Oshawa Chamber of Commerce. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 21:52:20 -0600 (CST) From: Bruce Mills Subject: Personal data bylaws assailed http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20060831.BCPRIVACY31/TPStory/TPNational/BritishColumbia/ Personal data bylaws assailed Show restraint on surveillance requests, privacy commissioner urges municipalities SHANNON KARI VANCOUVER -- The Privacy Commissioner in British Columbia is urging municipalities to show restraint and stop enacting what he describes as "surveillance bylaws." David Loukidelis issued a report yesterday that is critical of bylaws that require certain types of businesses to collect personal information from customers and then turn over the data to police. The city of Surrey for example, requires anyone selling pepper spray to document the name, age, race, height and weight of anyone who purchases the product and provide the information to police. Richmond is considering similar provisions for scrap-metal dealers. Chilliwack wanted to enact a bylaw earlier this year that would require hydroponic stores to detail all purchases of legal products such as seeds and light bulbs, as well as personal data about the customer and send it electronically to police. After receiving negative publicity, the city said it would wait for the Privacy Commissioner's report before deciding what to do next. "Against the clear privacy impact of such bylaws, it is doubtful that such bylaws are really effective and there are certainly tools that may more effectively achieve the community safety objectives the bylaws purport to address," the report says. Mr. Loukidelis said yesterday that legitimate concerns about marijuana grow-ops and other criminality in communities should be dealt with by police. The disclosure of customer information should be left to the courts to decide on a case-by-case basis. His report also refers to "rumours" that the RCMP in B.C. have asked municipalities to pass surveillance-type bylaws, because it is a way for police to come by more information about potential wrongdoing without obtaining search warrants. Mr. Loukidelis wrote to the head of the RCMP in B.C. in February. The RCMP responded in late July with a letter that did not answer the question, he said, but asserted it co-operates with communities to address crime problems. "They did not say no, we won't do this," Mr. Loukidelis said. The Union of British Columbia Municipalities has supported this type of bylaw and lobbied the province successfully to enact the Safety Standards Act earlier this year. It grants municipalities access to residential power consumption accounts to try to identify grow-ops. Richard Taylor, executive director of the UBCM, said he has not had a chance to review the Privacy Commissioner's report but stressed that the so-called surveillance bylaws are motivated by the public interest. "Councils are responding to serious issues of safety in their communities," he said. Mr. Loukidelis responded that he is not questioning the good intentions of the municipalities. But they should not be permitted to pass bylaws "compelling citizens to give up their privacy in a wholesale and indiscriminate manner," he said. "We live in what I understand to be a liberal democracy. There are long-standing traditions that the state must justify why it is enacting measures that encroach on your liberties." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 07:02:28 -0600 (CST) From: "M.J. Ackermann, MD" Subject: African-Canadian I too am African-Canadian. I was born in Ottawa in 1958 of a South African father and so I held dual Canadian and RSA citizenship till my 18th in 1976. I lived there in Cape Town 1961-1962. Unlike most so-called "African-Canadians", whom have never set foot outside of Canada in their lives nor that of their parents or grand parents. But I'm caucasian, so that doesn't count. - -- M.J. Ackermann, MD (Mike) Rural Family Physician, Sherbrooke, NS Secretary, St. Mary's Shooters Association President, Guysborough County Horse and Pony Association Member All For Horses Association, Nova Scotia Equestrian Federation Box 13, 120 Cameron Rd. Sherbrooke, NS Canada B0J 3C0 902-522-2172 My email: mikeack@ns.sympatico.ca My Bio: http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/mikeack/mikeack.htm SMSA URL: www.smsa.ca "Hope for the best, but plan for the worst". ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 07:46:34 -0600 (CST) From: Bruce Mills Subject: Public Works advisers sent packing http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20060901.PUBLICWORKS01/TPStory/Front Public Works advisers sent packing BRIAN LAGHI AND DANIEL LEBLANC OTTAWA -- Two federal advisers hired to help Ottawa find $600-million in savings on real estate and purchasing policies have had their contracts terminated after a foreign fact-finding mission turned into a diplomatic embarrassment. David Rotor and Douglas Tipple were hired this winter by the previous Liberal government to advise the Public Works Department on how to cut costs in real estate and procurement. However, a trip by the two men to London to examine British innovations in public-private partnerships left government officials apologizing for a series of cancelled meetings. Canadian diplomats sent six letters of apology after meetings with British officials failed to come off. A memo circulated within the Public Works Department yesterday by deputy minister David Marshall confirmed that the men's terms were being ended. "We are now at a stage where the work led by Douglas and David needs to be fully integrated within the Acquisitions and Real Property Branches," the memo said. "Accordingly, their terms will come to an end." A spokesman for Public Works Minister Michael Fortier said the minister met with his deputy recently and the two decided that, although the reforms should progress, the government should do so with new personnel. "The ultimate goal is to buy in a smarter way," Jean Luc Benoit, the minister's communications director, said in characterizing the project. Mr. Benoit also noted that the projects had been inherited from the previous minister, Liberal Scott Brison. Mr. Tipple and Mr. Rotor, were hired last October and January, respectively. Sources said each man had a three-year contract and were earning more than $200,000 a year. A headhunting firm was paid $230,000 to find them. Sources say that Mr. Marshall and Canada's deputy high commissioner to Britain, Guy Saint-Jacques, each sent letters of apology to the British Defence Ministry, the National Health Service and National Audit Office because of the cancelled meetings. In addition, Mr. Marshall apologized to Canada's Foreign Affairs Department. Public Works defended the trip, saying meetings were cancelled because of logistical difficulties. Questions were also raised about "trip notes" that were circulated upon the pair's return after it was found that a large portion of the document included information from British websites without attribution. In a later report, Mr. Rotor also said he attended a speech by Laura D. Tyson, dean of the London Business School, on the convergence of the Canadian, American and English economies. Ms. Tyson gave a speech, but it wasn't on that topic. Mr. Tipple was not available for comment yesterday. However, in an e-mail circulated to colleagues recently, Mr. Tipple defended his portion of the trip, saying the meetings that were cancelled were not his area of responsibility. Reached in Ottawa, Mr. Rotor said last night that two of the meetings he was to attend did not take place because the British officials were not expecting him. On a third occasion, a meeting that had been set up went awry because the senior British official he was to meet was unavailable. The organization representing the British official then suggested he meet with more junior staff in another city, a change of venue that Mr. Rotor said he could not accommodate. On the matter of the speech, Mr. Rotor said that he paid $400 out of his own pocket on personal time to attend in the hope that it might be of use to the project. The address focused on the movement of labour, an issue that he said was critical to the work he was doing. The Public Works changes now throw into disarray the procurement-reform process, which is intended to generate savings of $2.5-billion over five years. The savings have already been built into the government's books and Prime Minister Stephen Harper mandated Mr. Fortier to find the savings. ------------------------------ End of Cdn-Firearms Digest V9 #763 ********************************** Submissions: mailto:cdn-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Mailing List Commands: mailto:majordomo@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Moderator's e-mail address: mailto:akimoya@cogeco.ca List owner: mailto:owner-cdn-firearms@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca FAQ list: http://www.magma.ca/~asd/cfd-faq1.html and http://teapot.usask.ca/cdn-firearms/Faq/cfd-faq1.html Web Site: http://teapot.usask.ca/cdn-firearms/homepage.html FTP Site: ftp://teapot.usask.ca/pub/cdn-firearms/ CFDigest Archives: http://www.sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca/~ab133/ or put the next command in an e-mail message and mailto:majordomo@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca get cdn-firearms-digest v04.n192 end (192 is the digest issue number and 04 is the volume) To unsubscribe from _all_ the lists, put the next five lines in a message and mailto:majordomo@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca unsubscribe cdn-firearms-digest unsubscribe cdn-firearms-alert unsubscribe cdn-firearms-chat unsubscribe cdn-firearms end (To subscribe, use "subscribe" instead of "unsubscribe".) 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