From: owner-can-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca (Cdn-Firearms Digest) To: cdn-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Subject: Cdn-Firearms Digest V10 #312 Reply-To: cdn-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Sender: owner-can-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Errors-To: owner-can-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Precedence: normal Cdn-Firearms Digest Friday, March 9 2007 Volume 10 : Number 312 In this issue: Police officers used an obscure section of the Criminal Code to seize weapons Suddenly, it's harder to tell the good guys from the bad mandatory minimum penalties for gun crimes, is more beneficial to a woman One party; two wings: Not only in Canader Fwd: There Is No Arguing With Cowboy Logic DC Gun Ban struck down by Federal Appeals Court CFAC Meetings ATI Good Luck, Bruce Fwd: Did You? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 11:37:13 -0500 From: News@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Subject: Police officers used an obscure section of the Criminal Code to seize weapons PUBLICATION: The Thunder Bay Chronicle-Journal=20 DATE: 2007.03.09=20 SECTION: City News=20 BYLINE: Julio Gomes=20 WORD COUNT: 92=20 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - -------- [Thunder Bay Police officers used an obscure section of the Criminal Code to seize weapons from a south-side residence early Thursday.] - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - -------- Thunder Bay Police officers used an obscure section of the Criminal Code to seize weapons from a south-side residence early Thursday.=20 A short press release from the Thunder Bay Police Service said a public safety warrant was executed at a home in the 200 block of Amelia Street East. As a result, a woman and three men were taken into custody.=20 A total of six firearms were seized and 14 criminal charges were laid.=20 No other information was available Thursday.=20 "Public safety warrant" means warrants under Section 117.04 of the Criminal Code to search for and seize weapons to decrease risks to public safety.=20 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 12:17:33 -0500 From: News@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Subject: Suddenly, it's harder to tell the good guys from the bad PUBLICATION: Montreal Gazette=20 DATE: 2007.03.09=20 EDITION: Final=20 SECTION: News=20 PAGE: A6=20 PNAME: Montreal=20 COLUMN: James Mennie=20 BYLINE: JAMES MENNIE=20 SOURCE: The Gazette=20 WORD COUNT: 505=20 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - -------- Suddenly, it's harder to tell the good guys from the bad - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - -------- "First of all," Surete du Quebec spokesperson Richard Gagne says, "they were fake uniforms. ... Based on the description we had from the victims, these were not police uniforms.=20 "They were jackets you can buy in any store that sells security uniforms. Anybody can pick them up and they aren't legally controlled.=20 "They could have got their badges at Toys 'R Us."=20 Any other time, it would seem like a straightforward story. On Tuesday, four men dressed in what appeared to be provincial police uniforms burst into a house in St. Agapit, about a half-hour's drive south of Quebec City. They handcuffed the occupants, searched the place, then left.=20 The scam was apparently so convincing, it wasn't until the victims called the local SQ the next day to find out who was going to pay for the door broken by the "cops" that they figured something didn't add up. It isn't as if this caper was breathtakingly cunning - anyone who's ever watched The Godfather knows a police uniform can come in pretty handy if you're planning to commit a crime.=20 But in a week where Laval cops were apparently mistaken for home invaders, home invaders masquerading as cops will get your attention, because nothing is as straightforward as it used to be.=20 The funeral that is to take place today for Laval Constable Daniel Tessier will be the only definitive development we'll see after a week of questions.=20 Since gunfire erupted at a Brossard home last Friday, a police investigation has been launched into how the raid in which Tessier died was conducted, television cameras have "re-created" the scene of his shooting, and anybody with a theory has been free to speculate about just what happened at a house on Rimouski Cres. at 5 a.m.=20 And once again, the issue of how police can enforce the law without undue danger to themselves and others has been pushed to the fore.=20 One issue is that of identification - how important it is that the suspect on the other side of the door being broken down know the demolition is being done by cops rather than someone else?=20 That's why what happened in St. Agapit becomes more than a bizarre crime story. Even if their uniforms were less than perfect, will reports that fake cops are wandering around out there make it tougher for the real articles to their job? And will it make the people they're paid to serve and protect jumpy every time they see a police uniform?=20 "What we do know is that the address that was hit was the one the suspects were looking for," Gagne says, noting equipment that can be used to cultivate drugs was found at the house. "People living nearby don't have to worry that they'll come back."=20 Gagne's probably right.=20 But what about the next time? How much more likely will it be that a real police officer's odds of getting shot just increased because some criminal mastermind decided to play cops when he's actually a robber?=20 The equation used to be straightforward: You kill a police officer while he or she is performing his or her duty, you are charged with first-degree murder.=20 But as they lower Constable Tessier into the ground today, that math seems less clear. Because after a week where cops are taken for robbers and robbers dress as cops, nothing's as straightforward as it used to be.=20 jmennie@thegazette.canwest.com=20 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 12:28:48 -0500 From: News@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Subject: mandatory minimum penalties for gun crimes, is more beneficial to a woman PUBLICATION: The Leader-Post (Regina) DATE: 2007.03.09 EDITION: Final SECTION: Canada & The World PAGE: A3 DATELINE: OTTAWA BYLINE: Norma Greenaway SOURCE: CanWest News Service WORD COUNT: 303=20 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - -------- Tories give back $5M to women's programs - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - -------- OTTAWA -- After slashing $5 million from the budget of Status of Women Canada, the Conservative government has announced plans to pump "an additional $5 million" into projects on the ground.=20 Bev Oda, minister responsible for the Status of Women, said the money will start flowing April 1 and will be aimed exclusively at programs capable of making a "concrete difference" in the lives of women.=20 Oda said she has no regrets about the funding cut last year from the Status of Women budget, which resulted in the closure of 12 of 16 regional offices, or the decision to ban funding to women's advocacy groups.=20 "We don't believe taxpayers dollars should be used for advocacy and lobbying," she said Wednesday in a telephone interview.=20 Oda also played down the need for more research. The Conservatives' tough-on-crime stance, including mandatory minimum penalties for gun crimes, is more beneficial to a woman than another study on violence would be, she said.=20 Prime Minister Stephen Harper echoed the sentiment in a statement marking International Women's Day, describing the government's law-and-order agenda as key to providing "all women in Canada with a sense of security and opportunity."=20 Opposition MPs described Oda's announcement is a ploy to fool voters into thinking the minority government is upping its spending on women.=20 "They're showing contempt for Canadian women. This is the $5 million they cut. It's not new money. She's just using that money to buy us back," said Liberal MP Maria Minna.=20 NDP MP Irene Mathyssen, her party's women's critic, said Canadian women would not be snookered by the announcement. "They are way too smart," she said.=20 Minna also predicted the government's attempt to silence its critics won't work.=20 Indeed, Liberal Leader Stephane Dion cited funding cuts to Status of Women Canada during a major speech Thursday during which he rhymed off a string of actions the government has taken that, he says, shows it has abandoned women's rights.=20 "When it comes to furthering the cause of equality for women in Canada, 2006 was a wasted year," he said.=20 Ottawa Citizen=20 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 13:03:35 -0500 From: Lee Jasper Subject: One party; two wings: Not only in Canader This one's for Ed/Ont. From a Netscape article by Phil Restino: Let Justice Prevail... I am changing my voter registration from Democrat to Independent. Enough is enough! Watching the Senate recently reiterated what I already knew in my heart to be true: we have a "One Party with Two Wings" system here in America. Factoring out Senators Feingold and Sanders, along with a handful of Representatives (most notably, Ron Paul), the US Congress is a joke! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 13:06:23 -0600 (CST) From: Karl Zimmer Subject: Fwd: There Is No Arguing With Cowboy Logic > > There Is No Arguing With Cowboy Logic. > > The Sierra Club And The U.S. Forest Service Were > Presenting An Alternative To Wyoming Ranchers For > Controlling The Coyote Population. > > It Seems That After Years Of The Ranchers Using The > Tried And True Methods Of Shooting And/or Trapping > The Predator, The Tree-huggers Had A "more Humane" > Solution. > > What They Proposed Was For The Animals To Be > Captured Alive, The Males Castrated And Let Loose > Again And The Population Would Be Controlled. > > This Was Actually Proposed To The Wyoming Wool And > Sheep Grower's Association By The Sierra Club And > The U.S.F.S. (United States Forest Service). All Of > The Ranchers Thought About This Amazing Idea For A > Couple Of Minutes. > > Finally, An Old Boy In The Back Stood Up, Tipped His > Hat Back And Said, > > "Son, I Don't Think You Understand The Problem. > Those Coyotes Ain't F*CKING Our Sheep - They're > Eatin' 'em." > War Control, NOT Gun Control! ____________________________________________________________________________________ Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 13:16:21 -0500 From: "Breitkreuz, Garry - Assistant 1" Subject: DC Gun Ban struck down by Federal Appeals Court DC Gun Ban struck down by Federal Appeals Court http://drudgereport.com/04-7041a.pdf ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 12:18:13 -0600 From: Edward Hudson Subject: CFAC Meetings ATI Canadian Firearms Advisory Committee Meeting Record of Discussion August 24, 2006 11:00 A.M., EST by teleconference In Attendance Chair: Diane MacLaren, Assistant Deputy Minister Mike Ackerman Linda Baggaley Helen Banulescu Joel Bernard Tony Bernardo Christina Cefaloni Tim Cogan Alain Cossette Louis D=92Amour Greg Farrant Gerry Gamble Murray Grismer Bob Head Roland Nanel Suzing Hum Gary Mauser David Pimm Colleen Pulcine Roy Rempel Linda Thom Steve Torino Regrets John Gayder 1. INTRODUCTION The Chair welcomed everyone to the first meeting of the Canadian=20 Firearms Advisory Committee, and introduced herself. She noted that it=20= would have been preferable to hold the first meeting in person.=20 However, the scope of work ahead and the tight timeframe made it=20 important to convene the Advisory Committee as soon as possible via=20 teleconference. Committee members briefly introduced themselves. In addition, John=20 Gayder=92s letter of introduction was read to the participants. Participants in Ottawa were introduced: Roy Remple, Policy Advisor to Minister Day; Joel Bernard, Director of Parliamentary Affairs for Minister Day; Helen Banulescu, Director General, Policing Policy Directorate; Tim Cogan, Director, Firearms and Operational Policing Policy; and Firearms and Operational Policing Policy Division staff. Christina Cefaloni (613-990-9933) will be responsible for operational=20 issues of the Committee. Colleen Pulcine(613-949-7770) will handle travel, expense and=20 administrative queries. The Chair noted the role of the Department for managing the upcoming=20 stakeholder consultations and working with the Advisory Committee. 2. ADVISORY COMMITTEE BACKGROUND AND GOVERNMENT DIRECTION/TERMS OF=20 REFERENCE Roy Remple summarized the Government=92s strategic direction. He = outlined=20 the two-phase approach to the strategy, of which the key element in the=20= first phase was the introduction in the House of Commons of Bill C-21=20 to repeal the requirement to register non-restricted firearms. The=20 legislation will be debated this Fall in the House. The second phase of the strategy involves consulting with the=20 provinces, territories and stakeholders on further legislative reforms.=20= The consultations will focus on two specific areas, namely measures to=20= enhance the effectiveness of firearms prohibitions to prevent=20 individuals prohibited under court order from acquiring guns, and=20 one-time firearms licensing. Mr. Rempel reviewed the terms of reference for the Advisory Committee.=20= The Committee will operate as part of a broader consultative process,=20 and provide ongoing advice to the Minister. Members participate as=20 individuals, rather that as representatives of organizations.=20 Membership on the Advisory Committee is for two years. The issue of a possible amnesty for those in possession of prohibited=20 =9312(6)=94 handguns was raised. It was acknowledged that the matter is=20= complex and would require legislative changes not covered in Bill C-21.=20= The focus for the Government is to repeal the registration requirement=20= for non-restricted firearms. Nevertheless, these other issues will=20 likely come up in the consultations. Committee members were informed that some communications of committee=20 members might be released if requested under the Access to Information=20= and Privacy Acts. Advice to the Minister would be protected. Since it=20 is anticipated that the media will contact Committee members, it was=20 determined that media requests would be referred to the Department. 3. UPDATE ON FIREARMS CONSULTATIONS The Chair summarized the Department=92s current work on the = consultations=20 and the timeline. Following through on the Minister=92s commitment to=20 consult with the provinces, a letter has been drafted requesting=20 written feedback from the provinces and territories. It is anticipated=20= that the letter will be sent out in early September. There will be two=20= months in which to reply, with responses due by October 31, 2006. The Department is assembling a list of the key stakeholder groups,=20 representing those both in favor and against enhanced restrictions in=20 order to ensure a comprehensive and balanced consultation. Aboriginal=20 viewpoints must also be sought. The list of key stakeholders will be=20 distributed to all Committee members for additional input. Suggestions=20= would be appreciated by Thursday, August 31, 2006. (Note: The deadline=20= has been extended until Sept. 1, 2006.) EKOS Research Associated Inc. is being asked to conduct the stakeholder=20= consultations. EKOS is a professional and reputable firm, which can provide results in=20= a timely manner. In collaboration with the Department, EKOS is developing a targeted=20 online survey tool that stakeholders, who have received a written=20 invitation, can access and complete. The questionnaire will be shared=20 with the Advisory Committee. Any suggested questions that could be=20 included in the survey regarding one-time licensing and firearms=20 prohibitions should be sent to Christina Cefaloni. EKOS is expected to submit its final report by October 31, 2006. It=20 will be provided to Committee members. 4. OTHER BUSINESS/ROUNDTABLE The Department will provide a Communications contact to the Advisory=20 Committee. A media package will be forwarded to the members for their=20 reference. Members will also receive security clearance documents to complete. 5. CONCLUSION/NEXT MEETING The next meeting will be held in person in Ottawa by early October. An=20= effort will be made to schedule the meeting to coincide with the=20 Minister=92s availability so that he will be able to meet with the=20 members. The Department will contact the Committee members to discuss=20 availability, and travel arrangements. Canadian Firearms Advisory Committee Meeting Record of Discussion October 23, 24, 2006, 8:00 A.M., EST in Ottawa In Attendance Chair: Diane MacLaren, Assistant Greg Farrant Deputy Minister Gerry Gamble Mike Ackerman Murray Grismer Linda Baggaley Bob Head Helen Banulescu Gary Mauser Joel Bernard David Pimm Tony Bernardo Colleen Pulcine Christina Cefaloni Roy Rempel Tim Cogan Linda Thom Alain Cossette Steve Torino Louis D=92Amour John Gayder Statement to Minister Day October 23, 24, 2006 General Principles regarding Public Safety We would like to thank the Minister for the opportunity to contribute=20 to the public safety of Canada through the establishment of the=20 Canadian Firearms Advisory Committee. AS concerned Canadians, we share=20= the Minister=92s goal in creating effective firearms control, stronger=20= community based policing, enhanced public safety and yet, provide=20 significant value to all Canadians. These recommendations are simple,=20 utilize proven cost-effective mechanisms that will be easily understood=20= by law enforcement, firearms owners and the general public. It will=20 effectively keep firearms out of the hands of those who should not have=20= them while protecting the interests and concerns of Canada=92s law=20 abiding firearms community. Prohibitions The Committee recommends tightening the tracking and management of=20 prohibited persons though the establishment of a Prohibited Persons=20 Registry. This system would, through the existing FIP, RAT and=20 continuous eligibility systems, add a mandatory requirement to report=20 change of address to authorities and enable law enforcement to maintain=20= a watchful eye on persons who are prohibited from possessing firearms. These significant measures to provide tougher prohibitions for violent=20= criminals can be monitored through vigorous enforcement or conditions=20 of release, and we encourage the government to examine the=20 possibilities inherent in random spot checks and other methods. We also recommend the government review, through the work of this=20 Committee, mandatory prohibitions for serious violent offences. We=20 strongly feel that these measures will provide much improved levels of=20= personal security for all Canadians. Licensing It is recommendation of this Committee to enhance the existing=20 licensing system by merging the Possession Only and the Possession and=20= Acquisition Licenses into the Continuous Firearms License. This license=20= will radically streamline the efficiency of the licensing system=20 through continuous eligibility and encourage participation in the=20 system. It will also reduce cost, allowing the expenditure of these=20 recovered resources to enhanced screening. The system will feature a more robust screening process by permitting=20 more direct police involvement in the initial vetting of applicants.=20 This process retains the tried and true Canadian Firearms Safety=20 Course, uses existing resources and will save money by decreasing the=20 bureaucratic load while improving confidence in the accuracy of the=20 screening process. It reduces costs by harmonizing the existing=20 Authorization to Transport and Special Authority to Possess processes=20 into the Restricted Firearms License, allowing these precious resources=20= to permit expanded front line policing, improved programs for social=20 groups and increased security against gun smuggling on Canada=92s=20 borders. Educating Canadians We feel these measures will be welcomed by Canadians and will need to=20 be effectively communicated across the country to dispel myths about=20 the new system and inform citizens, police, court officials, judiciary,=20= media and others regarding the positive new effects created by these=20 changes. This will greatly increase public confidence in the new system=20= and permit more efficient enforcement of Canada=92s laws. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 11:40:50 -0700 From: Roger Subject: Good Luck, Bruce Good luck, Bruce! There are many people hoping your trial goes well. I hope it isn't delayed yet again. ======================================= A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well. ======================================= Are you a Liberal, a Conservative or an Albertan? Here is a little test that will help you decide. The answer can be found by considering the following question: You're walking down a deserted street with your wife and two small children. Suddenly, an Islamic Terrorist with a huge knife comes around the corner, locks eyes with you, screams obscenities, praises Allah, raises the knife, and charges at you. You are carrying a Glock 40 cal., and you are an expert shot. You have mere seconds before he reaches you and your family. What do you do? . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Liberal Answer: Well, that's not enough information to answer the question! Does the man look poor or oppressed? Have I ever done anything to him that would inspire him to attack? Could we run away? What does my wife think? What about the kids? Could I possibly swing the gun like a club and knock the knife out of his hand What does the law say about this situation? Does the Glock have appropriate safety built into it? Why am I carrying a loaded gun anyway, and what kind of message does this send to society and to my children? Is it possible he'd be happy with just killing me? Does he definitely want to kill me, or would he be content just to wound me? If I were to grab his knees and hold on, could my family get away while he was stabbing me? Should I call 9-1-1? Why is this street so deserted? We need to raise taxes, have paint and weed day and make this happier, healthier street that would discourage such behavior. This is all so confusing! I need to debate this with some friends for few days and try to come to a consensus. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Conservative Answer: BANG! . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Albertan Answer: BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! Click..... (Sounds of reloading) BANG! BANG! Daughter: "Nice grouping, Daddy! Were those the Winchester Silver Tips or Hollow Points?" Son: "Can I shoot the next one!" Wife: "You ain't taking that to the Taxidermist! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 23:21:11 -0800 From: Len Miller Subject: Fwd: Did You? May we know your findings? You'll notice there was no findings . . Begin forwarded message: > From: > Date: March 8, 2007 13:19:37 PST > To: "Len Miller" > Subject: RE: Did You? > > Mr. Miller, > > Thank you for your email. > > Yes, the Task Force has finished and the report was written and given > to Mr. Harper.=A0 The Task Force report was used to help shape the Crime > & Justice portion of the Conservative Party platform in the last > election. > > Kathy Jary > Constituency Assistant for > RUSS HIEBERT, MP > South Surrey - White Rock - Cloverdale > Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of National Defence > Phone: (604)542-9495 > Fax: (604)542-9496 > #106A, 2429 - 152 Street > Surrey, BC V4P 1N4 > > > Russ Hiebert sends out periodic e-mail updates that discuss his work > in the "House of Commons" and issues affecting "the constituents of > South Surrey, White Rock and Cloverdale. To sign up for these updates, > please=A0reply to this email with your name and complete mailing > address. > > From: Len Miller [mailto:roadrunner144@telus.net] > Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 11:32 AM > To: info@russhiebert.ca > Cc: Peace Arch news; mred; Jerrold Lundgard; nw > Subject: Did You? > > To MP Hiebert > Have you completed your task force inquiry into gun and gang violence? > As you are aware, I personally volunteered to assist in your inquiry. > I also suggested an experienced civilian in the person of Jerrold > Lundgard president of RFOA . . who would be invaluable resource as well. > He indicated (to me) that he would have been more than willing. > Your office informed me you had any and all the help you needed. > Since there has been no public announcement, have you completed your > task force? > May we know your findings? > Len Miller > Vancouver > > (another shooting last night in Vancouver . . CKNW ) > --------------------- > > Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 08:59:15 -0600 (CST) > From: "mred" > Subject: Re: MP Russ Hiebert will head up a Conservative task force > > - ----- Original Message ----- > From: "10x" <10x@telus.net> >> At 09:27 AM 8/27/05 -0600, you wrote: >>> >>> >>> http://www.peacearchnews.com/portals-code/list.cgi?=20 >>> paper=3D44&cat=3D23&id=3DMP Russ Hiebert will head up a Conservative task >>> force looking into gunand gang violence in Canada. >>> >>> Aug 26 2005 >>> White Rock Peace Arch News >>> Crime fighter >>> >>> MP Russ Hiebert will head up a Conservative task force looking into >>> gun >> and gang violence in Canada. >>>>> "Criminal gangs have been implicated in many of the drive-by >>>>> shootings >>>>> and auto thefts plaguing Surrey. We need to make safe homes, safe >>>>> streets andsafe communities a priority." >> >> Hopefully this committee will ask for the report by The Honourable >> Albina >> Guarnieri on the gun registry and firearms owners licensing. >> There may be some indication in this report as to why the firearms = act >> does not stop the slaughter in Toronto. >> Couple this with the fact that those who believe it is acceptable for > them to kill other folks are NOT going to worry about complying with > the >> firearms act. > Another task force ? What we need is a revamp of the judiciary , > judges who > will mete out more than a slap on the wrist. > ed/ontario ------------------------------ End of Cdn-Firearms Digest V10 #312 *********************************** Submissions: mailto:cdn-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Mailing List Commands: mailto:majordomo@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Moderator's e-mail address: mailto:akimoya@cogeco.ca List owner: mailto:owner-cdn-firearms@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca FAQ list: http://www.magma.ca/~asd/cfd-faq1.html and http://teapot.usask.ca/cdn-firearms/Faq/cfd-faq1.html Web Site: http://teapot.usask.ca/cdn-firearms/homepage.html FTP Site: ftp://teapot.usask.ca/pub/cdn-firearms/ CFDigest Archives: http://www.sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca/~ab133/ or put the next command in an e-mail message and mailto:majordomo@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca get cdn-firearms-digest v04.n192 end (192 is the digest issue number and 04 is the volume) To unsubscribe from _all_ the lists, put the next five lines in a message and mailto:majordomo@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca unsubscribe cdn-firearms-digest unsubscribe cdn-firearms-alert unsubscribe cdn-firearms-chat unsubscribe cdn-firearms end (To subscribe, use "subscribe" instead of "unsubscribe".) 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