From: owner-can-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca (Cdn-Firearms Digest) To: cdn-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Subject: Cdn-Firearms Digest V10 #327 Reply-To: cdn-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Sender: owner-can-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Errors-To: owner-can-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Precedence: normal Cdn-Firearms Digest Friday, March 16 2007 Volume 10 : Number 327 In this issue: Column: Crime agenda ignores the facts: Gunshot victim clams up to cops 38 accused of poaching Psychologists to evaluate border cops' personalities before Talk about political moving and grooving Harper's doing an S-2 Pair jailed, fined for illegal hunting "..over represented on this forum..." FISHERIES MINISTER'S STATEMENT ON THE SEAL HUNT Constitutional Charter Challenge Superior Court Kenora Day 4 How do i become a member of the firearms advisory committee? BCWF ALERT #46/2007: MLA Bill Bennett announces Outdoor Caucus in ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 11:54:35 -0400 From: News@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Subject: Column: Crime agenda ignores the facts: PUBLICATION: National Post DATE: 2007.03.15 EDITION: National SECTION: Canada PAGE: A5 COLUMN: John Ivison SOURCE: National Post WORD COUNT: 757 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - -------- Crime agenda ignores the facts: Liberals in favour of law and order, but hardly dogmatic about it - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - -------- When the Conservatives are announcing taxpayer funded environmental projects and the Liberals are talking tough on crime, you know there's an election in the air. In a curious role reversal, Stephen Harper was in the Toronto area yesterday, wearing an open-necked shirt and possibly Birkenstocks, as he announced that the government is going to purchase ecologically sensitive land. Meanwhile, mild-mannered Stephane Dion was just down the road, trying to look fierce as he explained his new-found enthusiasm for law and order. Stung by Tory barbs that he is "soft on crime," the Liberal leader promised $200-million for 400 more RCMP officers; changes to the Criminal Code to guard against the Internet luring of children; and tougher laws against identity theft. In addition, there would be more funding for Crown attorneys and dozens of judicial vacancies would be filled, he said. All of which is well and good. The problem is the Liberals don't really believe there is a problem. Mr. Dion said he would base his policy on facts, not fear-mongering. He went on to note that the violent crime rate fell 13% between 1992 and 2004. True, but that ignores the fact that the homicide rate climbed to its highest level in a decade in 2005, fuelled by a spike in gang related killings. It ignores the fact that crime prevention is fourth on a list of things Canadians want their government to act on, behind health care, the environment and poverty. And it ignores the fact that one in four people feel vulnerable to property crime and one in seven feels open to violent crime, even if actual crime rates are one in five for property and one in 25 for violence. Crime is a topic that preoccupies Canadians, with most people believing that overall rates are increasing. Yet studies suggest the one group that does not place a strong emphasis on law and order values are Liberal supporters, for whom respect for authority and personal responsibility are less important than equality and respect for diversity. Mr. Dion's speech yesterday was titled "Protecting our Homes and our Rights" but there is no doubt which is pre-eminent in the Liberal leader's universe. This in itself is not a crime -- different strokes and all that. But then, please spare us the preelection hyperventilating. The last time we heard a Liberal leader talking about crime was Paul Martin's pledge to ban handguns and double minimum prison sentences before the past election. Since then, the Liberals have generally been in favour of law and order but have hardly been dogmatic about it. The Conservatives, Liberals and NDP were all committed to cracking down on gun crime during the past election, yet the bill advocating mandatory minimum sentences for crimes involving guns has been gutted by the opposition parties, who argue judges should be given latitude. Mr. Dion gave a clue to his own position in his speech: "Too often, Canadian politicians [suggest] the only solution to crime is longer sentences." The bill is due to be returned from the justice committee to the House of Commons in the next two weeks and it could yet prove to be the trigger to a general election, since the Conservatives argue it is one of the measures they promised to implement when they were elected. Likewise, the Conservatives brought in a bill limiting the use of conditional sentences (house arrest) in cases where the minimum penalty is 10 years imprisonment. The Tories argued that criminals convicted of such crimes as arson, luring a child and auto theft should face jail time rather than curfews, community service and counselling. However, the opposition parties carved out non-violent crimes from the bill, which means only those convicted of "personal injury offences" will no longer be eligible for conditional sentencing. Sue Barnes, the then Liberal justice critic, summed up her party's position in the debate on second reading when she argued conditional sentences should be available for non-violent offenders. "Think of the case of a welfare fraud parent, who I am told by defence counsel is usually a woman. She would more likely end up in jail where before, a conditional sentence would often be used," she said. While the system may have caught up the odd errant welfare mother, much more prevalent are the serious drug traffickers still able to serve their sentences in the comfort of their own home, thanks to the efforts of Ms. Barnes and her colleagues. One-third of all traffickers convicted of crimes that carried a minimum penalty of 10 years in jail were given conditional sentences in 2003-04. Mr. Dion may have partly addressed the worry that he'd be as much use in a crime wave as a sheep, but people should judge the Liberals on their past actions, not their good intentions. As Dr. Johnson noted, those are what hell is paved with. Cartoon, Page A20 Jivison@nationalpost.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 11:57:18 -0400 From: News@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Subject: Gunshot victim clams up to cops PUBLICATION: Montreal Gazette DATE: 2007.03.15 EDITION: Final SECTION: News PAGE: A7 PNAME: Montreal COLUMN: Fast Track SOURCE: The Gazette; PC WORD COUNT: 102 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - -------- Gunshot victim clams up to cops - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - -------- A man who was wounded in the hand is refusing to co-operate with police investigating reports of gunshots on 80th Ave. in LaSalle on Tuesday. Neighbours called 911 about 7 p.m. to say shots had been fired, but police responding to the call found no signs of violence. A few hours later, a hospital informed police that a 20-year-old man with a gunshot wound to his hand had arrived at the emergency room. The victim was questioned, but told police nothing. No charges have been laid. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 11:58:30 -0400 From: News@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Subject: 38 accused of poaching PUBLICATION: Montreal Gazette DATE: 2007.03.15 EDITION: Final SECTION: News PAGE: A7 PNAME: Montreal COLUMN: Fast Track SOURCE: The Gazette; PC WORD COUNT: 70 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - -------- 38 accused of poaching - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - -------- More than 200 charges were laid yesterday against 38 people suspected of poaching in the St. Jean sur Richelieu area. The two-year investigation uncovered a network that preyed on migratory birds, fish, deer and other game. Unregistered firearms, a motorboat and fish processing gear were seized. If found guilty, the accused could be fined a total of $200,000. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 12:03:15 -0600 (CST) From: owner-cdn-firearms@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca (Majordomo User) Subject: Psychologists to evaluate border cops' personalities before they're issued guns Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 12:00:52 -0400 From: News@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca To: News@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Sender: owner-cdn-firearms@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Precedence: normal Reply-To: cdn-firearms@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca PUBLICATION: The Toronto Sun DATE: 2007.03.15 EDITION: Final SECTION: News PAGE: 2 WORD COUNT: 330 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - -------- Guards get shrunk Psychologists to evaluate border cops' personalities before they're issued guns - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - -------- The federal government is hiring a team of psychologists to gauge whether individual border guards are stable and even-tempered enough to carry a gun. Gearing up to arm thousands of agents in coming years, the Canada Border Services Agency wants psychologists to test the first batch of 870 candidates. According to an online government tender posted this week, the testing and evaluation process will include medical and personality tests, "structured stress" and clinical interviews. NDP MP Joe Comartin, whose Windsor riding is home to the busiest border crossing in the country, expects the screening will be as stringent as the process used for the RCMP and provincial and municipal police. "It's not perfect, nobody will suggest that. But it will be as rigorous as it is for our police agencies in the country," he said. An estimated 15% of border guards don't want to carry guns, and others won't be considered "safe" to carry weapons, Comartin said. He said guards that don't pass the evaluation will be placed elsewhere in the agency. But Liberal MP Roy Cullen, vice-chairman of the Commons public safety committee, said despite a stringent weeding process there's a chance some might slip through the cracks. Border agents will be trained to follow strict guidelines for drawing weapons, but he believes the Conservative government's decision to arm guards opens the door to potential greater violence. "There might be situations where people forget the protocol, or in the heat of the moment they're confronted with a situation and suddenly you have guns blazing," he said. "That would really be a horrible thing to happen at any border crossing, but especially the more populous crossings like Detroit-Windsor where there are so many people. "The last thing you want is stray bullets flying around." Cullen said a safer alternative would be to have trained police officers, who are more experienced at handling hostile situations, securing the busiest crossings 24-7. Liberal public safety critic Sue Barnes said arming guards raises concerns about high costs as well as safety. "I think that this is something that over time will prove to be a very expensive solution. Maybe the alternative would have been a better use of financial resources," she said. "The training will encompass the safety issues, obviously. But the reality is there's more likely to be an incident if you have the situation of firearms present." kathleen.harris@sunmedia.ca ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 12:11:09 -0500 From: Lee Jasper Subject: Talk about political moving and grooving Yesterday's mainline newspapers talked about the 'election ready' fed budget expected to be tabled on Monday. Higher fed gov't excess revenues are mentioned. . . . again . . . and the bulging gov't treasury; errrrrrrr, wasn't that something that the CPC criticized the Liberals over. Meanwhile, provincial and municipal gov't's who provide most of our gov't services are starved for cash. I note that an item I have been writing to FinMin Flaherty, etc. about appears to be an election goodie. One of the first things the CPC did when taking gov't was to reverse the Liberal tax reduction for the lowest income tax group by 0.5%. Our CPC fed gov't increased this tax rate back up 0.5 per cent. Ahaw. This ticked off a large group of voters (many didn't realize they'd been gouged) so now the gov't is going to withdraw its increase. Flaherty also plans on raising the personal exemption level by $300 to $9,229. Lower income people, pensioners and older voters are IN. As our gov't prepares for an unnecessary election, it continues to strive to buy the 'Green' vote and with its cash flow, it has the bucks to do just that. >$225M fund to help preserve nature: Conservation groups offered money to buy vulnerable properties > >------------------------------------------------------------------ > >TORONTO - The federal government will spend up to $225 million to help >conservation groups fight urban sprawl by acquiring private lands >considered ecologically sensitive, Prime Minister Stephen Harper said >yesterday. The money will be available in matching grants for Nature >Conservancy of Canada and such groups as Ducks Unlimited as part of a >plan to persuade landowners to donate or sell their property. The Tories are hoping new rules ushered in last year excluding private land donations from capital gains tax will spur owners to part with their property. > >"(This) will ensure that many important areas of the country that would otherwise be overrun by urban or suburban development ... will not be," Mr. Harper said after touring land donated by a local family. "They will be preserved forever." Land with "national or provincial ecological significance," such as habitats for endangered species or areas near national parks, will be given priority, he said. > >Under the deal -- aimed at preserving 500,000 acres of wilderness in >southern parts of the country -- Nature Conservancy of Canada and other partners will identify properties with demonstrated environmental value. > Much of this land is in sensitive areas around Toronto like the Oak Ridges Moraine. I wonder how all those well-heeled Liberal hating developers in the Toronto area will react to this? Greens are IN, a few rich developers are out-of-luck. Even the infamous energy hog, Arnold Schwarzenegger, who owns six Hummers, has converted one to bio-diesel and vegetable oil. (Smells like a French Fry he says). He previously converted one of his H-1s to Hydrogen. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 12:20:38 -0500 From: Lee Jasper Subject: Harper's doing an S-2 Speaking on Hummers, H-1s, H-2s, H-3s, etc. It finally hit me; Harper's pulling a classic S-2 maneuver. He's been quietly pulling a Schwarzenegger-2 on the electorate. > > Schwarzenegger Remakes Himself as Environmentalist http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp- dyn/content/article/2006/12/22/AR2006122201476_pf.html> > > > SACRAMENTO -- Arnold Schwarzenegger is not the type of guy you would > necessarily associate with tree hugging. When he bought a Hummer in > the early 1990s, it kicked off a nationwide craze for the gas-guzzling > behemoths. His lighter-fluid-dowsed action flicks and protein-packed > chest bespoke more of American excess than environmentalism, more > violence than vegan. > > But as governor of California, Schwarzenegger has engaged in a savvy > makeover, befitting a Hollywood star. He retooled one of his four > Hummers to run on alternative fuels and is quickly fashioning himself > into one of the most aggressively pro-environment governors in a state > known for leading the nation on that issue. What's Arnold's record with gun owners? Are gun owners Green? Look out Oil Patch!!! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 13:28:21 -0400 From: News@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Subject: Pair jailed, fined for illegal hunting PUBLICATION: New Brunswick Telegraph-Journal DATE: 2007.03.15 SECTION: News PAGE: C8 KEYWORDS: TPNEWS; TP NEWS BYLINE: Chuck Brown Telegraph-Journal WORD COUNT: 226 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - -------- Pair jailed, fined for illegal hunting - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - -------- Two Charlotte County men paid a heavy price Tuesday when they were sent to jail and fined on unrelated charges of hunting illegally. Arlington Day, 38, of St. Stephen, entered a guilty plea on Tuesday to hunting at night on the Scott Road. A citizen in the area heard gunshots and went out to investigate. He found Day, another adult and a child in a vehicle and when he confronted him, Day admitted he had shot at a deer. The man told Day to get the animal if he hit it or to take off if he didn't hit it. Day said he didn't hit it. The man reported the incident to provincial wildlife conservation officers. Day was sentenced to a mandatory minimum of seven days in jail and fined $2, 000. In a separate incident, Glen L. Stewart, 47, received the same jail sentence and fine for hunting moose out of season in Rollingdam on Jan. 30. Conservation officers discovered Stewart had 16 bags of fresh, unfrozen moose steaks stored in a freezer after someone reported that they had found the front quarter of a moose in the woods. All-terrain vehicle trails led the officers to Stewart who allowed them to search his home and later admitted he shot the moose. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 12:15:21 -0700 From: "Todd Birch" Subject: "..over represented on this forum..." Let's get this clearly stated..... Is this forum the exclusive domain of the "no licence, no registration; "... from my cold, dead hands..." crowd? Is expressing an opinion to the contrary to be regarded as heresy and the speaker shunned as a pariah? What about our precious 'right' of free speech, or does that only apply if we mouth the party line? How about those who state repeatedly that they will 'vote' Liberal by their decision not to vote for the only party that has shown ANY support of gun owners, however short of the ideal? Are we to dismiss them as witless, unable to discern the complexity of the political reality? Or the "I hate Muslims..." rhetorical rants that foment and perpetuate hate towards another segment of society while decrying the discrimination they feel about their own interests? Herding cats is a much more productive enterprise than riding herd on some of the subscribers to this forum. Wonder why we are hanging individually rather than collectively? Bring back the open range, bring back the 'wild and wooly west', bring back the days of the untamed Mustang! Let's return to the days of yesteryear with no licencing, no registration, no background checks of any kind for anything. The buffalo are gone and not coming back any time soon. TB ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 16:33:21 -0400 From: News@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Subject: FISHERIES MINISTER'S STATEMENT ON THE SEAL HUNT MARCH 15, 2007 - FISHERIES MINISTER'S STATEMENT CANADA'S NEW GOVERNMENT SUPPORTS CANADA'S EAST COAST AND ARCTIC SEAL HUNTS http://www.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/media/statem/2007/20070315_e.htm ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 20:53:02 -0600 From: Edward Hudson Subject: Constitutional Charter Challenge Superior Court Kenora Day 4 Thursday, March 15, 2007 To: Firearms Digest Sender: owner-cdn-firearms@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Precedence: normal Reply-To: cdn-firearms@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Constitutional Charter Challenge Superior Court Kenora Day 4 Thursday, March 15, 2007 Five and one half more hours in court today. Crown Counsel completed all of his attacks on Dave Tomlinson. Calvin Martin replied and then the judge moved into the challenges to the Crown's three witnesses. This was completed by late afternoon. No court tomorrow. The judge will deliver his decision on the witnesses 10 a.m. Monday. (Hopefully we will get into the meat of the Charter arguments on Monday.) Sincerely, Eduardo from Kenora ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 19:57:01 -0300 From: jim hill Subject: How do i become a member of the firearms advisory committee? I really don't know how you get to be a member or how Dr. Mike became a member. I do know, however that I was invited to be a member and that Garry's office had a great deal to do with it. I had to turn it down as I would have required my wife to travel with me on flights to any meetings as I require her assistance just to get ready to go out since my stroke. I was askead if I could suggest someone of like mind with policing experience and an interest in firearms. I knew of such a person and put forth his name, however, he was not called. It was a surprise when I noted that Mike was on the committee, but I have great faith in him to represent the interests of Firearms owners. Jim Hill Fletchers Lake, NS ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 01:50:59 -0600 (CST) From: owner-cdn-firearms@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca (Majordomo User) Subject: BCWF ALERT #46/2007: MLA Bill Bennett announces Outdoor Caucus in B.C. Legislature From: News@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Date: Thu, March 15, 2007 2:20 pm To: News@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sender: owner-cdn-firearms@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Precedence: normal Reply-To: cdn-firearms@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca ________________________________ From: John B. Holdstock [mailto:jbholdstock@shawcable.com] Sent: March 15, 2007 2:22 PM To: John B. Holdstock Subject: BCWF ALERT #46/2007: MLA Bill Bennett announces Outdoor Caucus in B.C. Legislature BC GOVERNMENT CAUCUS NEWS RELEASE E-Annex, Parliament Buildings, Victoria, BC V8V 1X4 TEL: (250) 356-6171 FAX: (250) 356-6176 For immediate release March 14, 2007 MLA Bennett Announces Outdoor Caucus in B.C. Legislature victoria - Our issues in rural B.C. are different than the issues in the Lower Mainland. We care a little bit more about off-road vehicle licensing and management than we do about TransLink. We care about things like wildlife allocation, and we hope that file is resolved in a way that is fair and generous to the residents of British Columbia, said East Kootenay MLA Bill Bennett in the B.C. Legislature today. "I'm pleased to announce today that I'm going to be forming a B.C. outdoor caucus to work in conjunction with the federal outdoor caucus and some provincial caucuses across the country. The B.C. Wildlife Federation, Ducks Unlimited, Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation will be happy about this. They've asked me to do this," said Bennett. "The B.C. outdoor caucus will be non-partisan, so I say to all members: I hope that you join the caucus, but if you want to do politics don't bother joining because this is not about politics. This is about the outdoors." Our mission is to support fishing, hunting, trapping, shooting sports and motorized recreation as acceptable, traditional, environmentally-sustainable outdoor heritage activities with a safety credo and a conservation ethic as our highest priorities, and: * To ensure that British Columbians continue to have reasonable access to provincially managed public lands and waters to enjoy traditional outdoor heritage activities; * To increase awareness of the economic importance of outdoor heritage activities to British Columbia's economy, and to support the growth of outdoor activities, heritage businesses and jobs; * To preserve and promote the traditional British Columbia outdoor heritage activities and the environmental stewardship ethic upon which they are based; and * To support multiple sustainable uses and management of public lands, waters, fish, wildlife and habitat, based on sound science and professional natural resource tenets, for the benefit of all Canadians. "This caucus will support the heritage activities of hunting, fishing and trapping, outdoor activities like ATV and snowmobile trail running. I'll be in touch with members in the very near future to give a formal invitation into this caucus. Even if you don't hunt or fish or trap yourself, I hope that you'll accept the invitation and join this caucus to represent the tens of thousands of rural British Columbians who do those kinds of activities," added Bennett. "I came here about six years ago to represent my constituents in the East Kootenay and to represent all British Columbians. I think we all do that. But I also came here six years ago specifically to represent the interests of rural British Columbians because that's where I come from and that's where I've lived most of my life," said Bennett. Visit Bill's website at; www.billbennettmla.bc.ca http://www.billbennettmla.bc.ca/ For more information, contact Lilian Kim, Government Caucus Communications: 250-356-0389 *************** BCWF ALERT John B Holdstock BC Wildlife Federation Kelowna, BC jbholdstock@shawcable.com https://totalrecoil.wordpress.com/ http://www.bcwf.bc.ca/ http://www.bccf.com/ The world is run by those who show up. ------------------------------ End of Cdn-Firearms Digest V10 #327 *********************************** Submissions: mailto:cdn-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Mailing List Commands: mailto:majordomo@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Moderator's e-mail address: mailto:akimoya@cogeco.ca List owner: mailto:owner-cdn-firearms@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca FAQ list: http://www.magma.ca/~asd/cfd-faq1.html and http://teapot.usask.ca/cdn-firearms/Faq/cfd-faq1.html Web Site: http://teapot.usask.ca/cdn-firearms/homepage.html FTP Site: ftp://teapot.usask.ca/pub/cdn-firearms/ CFDigest Archives: http://www.sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca/~ab133/ or put the next command in an e-mail message and mailto:majordomo@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca get cdn-firearms-digest v04.n192 end (192 is the digest issue number and 04 is the volume) To unsubscribe from _all_ the lists, put the next five lines in a message and mailto:majordomo@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca unsubscribe cdn-firearms-digest unsubscribe cdn-firearms-alert unsubscribe cdn-firearms-chat unsubscribe cdn-firearms end (To subscribe, use "subscribe" instead of "unsubscribe".) 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