From: owner-can-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca (Cdn-Firearms Digest) To: cdn-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Subject: Cdn-Firearms Digest V10 #601 Reply-To: cdn-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Sender: owner-can-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Errors-To: owner-can-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Precedence: normal Cdn-Firearms Digest Saturday, June 23 2007 Volume 10 : Number 601 In this issue: Drugs-for-guns ring busted 2 Ottawa men shot dead [LETTER] Going places with guns and cars Four arrested in standoff [LETTERS] London Free Press, June 23/07 Murder in Room 23 no-fly list Most smuggled guns made it to the street despite good bust Re:blonde bimbos "Phase II Firearms Program Legislative Amendments..." ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 19:01:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Bruce Mills Subject: Drugs-for-guns ring busted http://www.torontosun.com/News/TorontoAndGTA/2007/06/22/4280852-sun.html Drugs-for-guns ring busted By TOM GODFREY AND JONATHAN JENKINS, SUN MEDIA Fri, June 22, 2007 MISSISSAUGA -- Border guards told Tashana Watts and her brother Warren they'd come across some undeclared clothing as the pair headed home to Burlington across the Peace Bridge in May. But the truth was police on both sides of the border had been keeping close tabs on the two and their rented car, as part of a nine-month long, multi-jurisdictional investigation. After being sent for a secondary search on May 21, guards discovered the seven handguns and five ounces of cocaine hidden behind the car's door panels. Yesterday, Tashana, 19, and Warren, 22, were joined in custody by their sister Tasheina, 21, as police announced charges against 10 people they allege were swapping Canadian-grown marijuana for American guns and coke. Tammy Dundas, 30, Rodney Glouden, 31, Jennifer MackIntosh, 23, Alma McLeod, 51, and Carol Anthony Spence, 60, all of Toronto, Daniel Christie, 27, of Brampton, and Qais Wali, 28, of Mississauga, are also charged with various offences. Dubbed Project Rebel, police from Peel, Niagara, Toronto and Halton, along with the OPP, Canadian Border Services Agency and American law enforcement officials began working together to bust the ring in October, 2006. ECSTASY, COCAINE The results of those efforts were on display in Peel yesterday -- 29 handguns, 10,000 tablets of ecstasy, 515 grams of cocaine, 260 grams of methamphetamine and four kilos of marijuana. Det.-Insp. Steve Clegg, of the provincial weapons enforcement unit, said seven addresses were raided with search warrants on Wednesday in the Toronto, Peel and Halton areas. Clegg alleged "mules" were hired by members of the cell to drive across the border in cars with false compartments allegedly laden with marijuana. The cars were unloaded by members in the U.S., who replaced the weed with weapons and cocaine for the return trip. The weapons were lawfully obtained in Florida and Alabama and smuggled into Canada, he said. "All these guns are being tracked back to the U.S.," Clegg said at a news conference yesterday at Peel police headquarters. "Right now there's a demand for guns in (Toronto)." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 18:40:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Bruce Mills Subject: 2 Ottawa men shot dead http://www.ottawasun.com/News/BreakingNews/2007/06/22/4281805.html 2 Ottawa men shot dead By SUN MEDIA Fri, June 22, 2007 Two Ottawa men have been identified as the victims of a multiple homicide last night along Montreal Rd. Police said at a noon-hour press conference that Ziad Ahmad, 32, and Phillip Salmon, 28, were both shot to death last night. Salmon managed to reach the parking lot of a restaurant at 681 Montreal Rd. before he collapsed and died. Ahmad died in the neighbouring Pari's Motel at 665 Montreal Rd. Officers say they are searching for two people in connection with the shootings, but stopped short of calling the people they are searching for suspects. Police said they were called last night just after after 10 p.m. and arrived to find Salmon in the parking lot unconscious and suffering from a gunshot wound. He was later pronounced dead at the scene. Officers then saw broken glass at the Pari's Motel next door. When they went over to the hotel to investigate, they found Ahmad's body in one of the rooms. Although cops are not releasing many details, they did confirm the two victims knew each other, were known to police, and that the killings are not a random act. Police have not recovered a weapon, and would not speculate on the motive. Major Crime detectives were called in and continued their investigation overnight and into the morning hours of today. This morning, police investigators remain at both scenes and officers are continuing to talk with potential witnesses. Anyone with information is asked to call detectives at 613-236-1222 ext. 5493. The slayings are Ottawa's fifth and sixth murders of 2007 and they come less than a week after the body of the city's fourth murder victim, Deborah Frankel-Howard, 61, was found in her Gage Cres. home last Friday. Her adopted son, Aaron Howard, is in custody after turning himself in to an RCMP detachment in Crystal City, Man., yesterday. He was being sought on a first-degree murder warrant. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 03:43:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Bruce Mills Subject: [LETTER] Going places with guns and cars http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/news/editorialsletters/story.html?id=a44b3753-bc90-4b45-b319-a34e7bc97ed0 Going places with guns and cars National Post Published: Saturday, June 23, 2007 Re: Ban Guns And Cars, letter to the editor, June 22. Letter-writer Dugad Souter finds it hypocritical that when a car is involved in killing, Premier Dalton McGuinty blames the driver, but when a death is caused by a gun, it is the gun -- not the shooter -- that is blamed. Mr. Souter is partially right: cars and guns are both connected with the transportation business. But that is where the similarities end. The primary purpose of an automobile is transportation from point A to point B. In contrast, the primary purpose of a firearm is transportation from this world to the next. It's that simple. T.R. Simon, Thornhill, Ont. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 10:22:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Bruce Mills Subject: Four arrested in standoff http://calsun.canoe.ca/News/Alberta/2007/06/23/4283947-sun.html Four arrested in standoff By TODD SAELHOF Sat, June 23, 2007 Four people were arrested yesterday morning after what police were treating as a hostage taking at a home in the city's southeast. The standoff ended about 9 a.m. in the 400 block of Queen Charlotte Dr. S.E., where cops answered a 911 call seven hours earlier from a man who fled the home, saying he had been held hostage for several hours by somebody armed with a weapon. A police tactical team then moved in to surround the home after the man reported the gun being fired in the house. Three men and a woman were being questioned as part of the police investigation into the incident. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 10:33:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Bruce Mills Subject: [LETTERS] London Free Press, June 23/07 http://www.lfpress.com/newsstand/Opinion/Letters/ Deer dilemma shows true priorities in this Forest City I recently visited the Sifton Bog this season with my husband for a mid-afternoon walk. During my walk I noticed how many more deer there are lingering in the area and dangerously close to human interaction. I also noticed an over abundance of building (residential, commercial etc.) that has been occurring in this area making the bog smaller and smaller as time goes on. We saw approximately 15 deer on a ridge about 10 metres away from us. With that many deer there should be hundreds of acres for them to run free in; currently there are only 40 acres. One of my co-workers who travels on Oxford Street West heading east from Byron has them jumping and walking out in front of her every morning. I understand the demand for infrastructure in our community, but the "possible land use change" is slowly but surely pushing these poor defenceless animals out of their homes. Councillors need to put a limit on these developers. These animals don't have a voice and have nowhere to go but out in front of a vehicle where they may be struck and killed and the motorist as well. We are no longer deemed the Forrest City . . . we are now the House-Building City With No Morals. Jo-Ann Wells London London's natural areas support too many deer It appears a cougar has shown up and has got Londoners' attention. I think it is sad that many residents of London do not have the foresight to see what can happen when the natural balance of nature is upset, namely all the cute little Bambis running through many areas of London. Yes, these deer are nice to see and some people try to lure them closer to their homes with feed, but encouraging them can create serious problems: overpopulation and damage to many plants and gardens but the most serious is the cougar. Deer are one of a cougar's food choices. The natural areas throughout London support far too many deer. Mother nature has introduced this cougar[s] to reduce this overpopulation. To a predatory animal, this deer herd is like a buffet. Many months ago, there was a proposal to cull the deer population of London. I believe if this cull was implemented, cougar sightings in this area would be non-existent. It would be a shame if this cougar has to be put down as it was drawn into London by those who do not understand nature's ways. Barry Nolan Dorchester ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 10:37:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Bruce Mills Subject: Murder in Room 23 http://www.ottawasun.com/News/OttawaAndRegion/2007/06/23/4283520-sun.html Murder in Room 23 Rumours swirl after pair gunned down in brutal motel slaying By KENNETH JACKSON, SUN MEDIA Sat, June 23, 2007 Tied to a bed at a Montreal Rd. motel room, a man is shot execution-style. Another man in the room is shot in the chest, stumbles from the room and makes it about 100 metres before dropping to the ground dead. Police weren't saying much yesterday about what they believe happened in Room 23 at Pari's Motel, located at 665 Montreal Rd., sometime around 10 p.m. on Thursday. They did say the two victims knew each other -- and were known to police -- and that the killings were not a random act. Neighbouring residents, even tenants at the hotel that was near capacity Thursday night, said they didn't hear anything. Not one gunshot. There were at least two. Speculation of a drug deal gone sour or someone settling a dispute swirled around the crime scene yesterday. What is known is that two people are dead. Police are looking for two people of interest -- they stopped short of calling them suspects. HISTORY OF VIOLENCE The man who stumbled out of Room 23 and later died in a restaurant parking lot next to the motel has been identified as Phillip Salmon, 28, of Ottawa. Salmon has a long history of violence and criminal associations. In 1997, at the age of 18, Salmon was arrested with two other men for armed robbery in Toronto. In 2003, he was arrested again for gun possession when Toronto police seized three loaded handguns. He served his time and it's believed he was on parole when he was shot to death Thursday. The man found tied to the bed was Ziad Adham, 32, also of Ottawa. The room was rented in his name and police said he had been living there for more than a week. The owner of the hotel said Adham seemed like a nice guy. He even kept his room clean. Some family members who visited the crime scene yesterday described Adham as someone you didn't want to upset. "He's the type of guy you didn't want to cross. He had a bad temper. You just didn't want to set him off. Other than that, he was a good guy," said cousin Moe Ahmad. "He's been going through a tough time. A lot of stuff was going on in his life." Over the last few years, Ahmad fell into debt and even lost his Vanier house. And, police said, he was known to break the law. OUTSTANDING CHARGES At the time of his death, he had outstanding charges for mischief to property, failing to comply with undertaking or recognizance, possession of a break-in instrument, theft under $5,000 and failure to appear for a court appearance. Police were first dispatched to the restaurant parking lot Thursday night for reports of a man having a seizure after patrons of the eatery saw Salmon rolling on the ground. Little did they know he was bleeding to death from a bullet wound to the upper chest. The bullet cut clean through him, exiting through his back. More police were called and, according to residents, there were a lot of them. "It was like every cop in the city was here," said neighbour Mariam Denault, 39. Police quickly searched the area and found a broken bathroom window at Room 23 at Pari's Motel. It appeared to have been broken from the inside. Around 11 p.m., the tactical team was called. Soon after, they entered the room and found Adham's body. Police set up a command post at the hotel yesterday. During the day they seized many pieces of potential evidence, including the motel's computer, which keeps track of all phone calls to and from the motel rooms. They searched the dumpsters at the motel and restaurant, along with an empty pool. They also seized a stolen car from the motel parking lot. Anyone with information is asked to call detectives at 613-236-1222 ext. 5493. The slayings are Ottawa's fifth and sixth murders of 2007 and they come less than a week after the body of the city's fourth murder victim, Deborah Frankel-Howard, 61, was found in her Gage Cres. home. Her adopted son, Aaron Howard, is in custody after turning himself in to an RCMP detachment in Crystal City, Man., yesterday. He was being sought on a first-degree murder warrant. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 14:54:14 +0000 From: "Trigger Mortis" Subject: no-fly list In conversation with another person recently, I heard that passports are given to people with criminal records. I thought a criminal record would preclude a passport. Question: What would make the passport people refuse to issue??? Would an entry on the no-fly list preclude a passport. Personally, I hate airplanes anyway. I don't fit in the seats. I'm a big guy. I like to have my own wheels with me, so I drive wherever I go. Alan Harper alan__harper@hotmail.com SI VIS PACEM, PARA BELLUM ************************* >>Yup! No fly list was a wrong move... On the other hand, there should be >exceptions, e.g. valid passport. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 10:57:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Bruce Mills Subject: Most smuggled guns made it to the street despite good bust http://www.torontosun.com/News/TorontoAndGTA/2007/06/23/4283698-sun.html Most smuggled guns made it to the street despite good bust By JONATHAN JENKINS Sat, June 23, 2007 Most of the guns seized by police as they rolled up a gang of gunrunners swapping American firepower for Canadian pot were found not with the smugglers but on the street, police said yesterday. "We recovered just 14," Peel Det. Dave Viozzi said of the 29 guns cops took in Project Rebel, a nine-month long, multi-jurisdictional probe. "The rest were seized by cops on the street -- from gang members or after armed robberies." Even more worrisome, he said, the vast majority of the 94 guns police have linked to the smuggling ring, including eight Cobray M-11 machine pistols, are unaccounted for. "Of those eight Cobrays, we've only recovered one clip," Viozzi said. Despite that, police say they put a good-sized dent in the cross-border gun traffic with Project Rebel, which resulted in 10 arrests in Canada and two alleged masterminds busted in Miami. The guns range from high-end Glocks to cheap High Points. But the profit on even the more inexpensive guns make the trade very lucrative. "You can buy a High Point in the States for $125 and they were selling those here for $2,500," Viozzi said. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 08:07:32 -0600 From: Bill Farion Subject: Re:blonde bimbos Hi; So Belinda has breast cancer. Perhaps you all should ask the eastern lieberals if $3 billion + might have been better spent on cancer research??? Might have saved a lot more than 1 life! Cdn-Firearms Digest wrote: ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 19:47:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Bruce Mills Subject: "Phase II Firearms Program Legislative Amendments..." Subject: "Phase II Firearms Program Legislative Amendments Consultation with Stakeholders" There is no indication of when this report was actually produced; the date at the bottom doesn't seem to be indicative of much of anything. This is the report on the bogus EKOS online survey in which many gun organizations (amongst others) were invited to participate. I think Dr. Gary Mauser did a thorough investigation into the soundness of this "poll". http://www.publicsafety.gc.ca/res/le/fpc_ex_sum-en.asp Phase II Firearms Program Legislative Amendments Consultation with Stakeholders Executive Summary The Government of Canada initiated a consultative process in summer of 2006, aimed at seeking the views of key stakeholders on potential measures that could improve the effectiveness of firearms control in Canada. More specifically, the objective of the consultations was to guide the development of legislative, program and administrative process changes that would achieve the following goals: 1. increase public safety by combating illegal possession and use of firearms; 2. cost-effectively collect, record and provide information about Canada’s firearms owners in a manner that is useful to both program administrators and law enforcement; 3. ensure high compliance rates among firearm owners to help ensure data integrity and to support continuous eligibility screening; and 4. increase the capacity to identify and prevent or remove access to firearms for those that could pose a risk to themselves or others. The consultations were conducted with a broad range of key stakeholders including provincial and territorial governments, law enforcement, firearms groups, victims of gun crime, associations and public interest groups. The consultation involved the following approaches: * a letter from the Minister of Public Safety inviting provincial and territorial governments to provide their views and advice; a web-enabled survey of 474 stakeholder organizations associations and public interest groups on potential measures to enhance public safety; * the formation of the Canadian Firearms Advisory Committee – comprised of 14 members with backgrounds in firearms matters and law enforcement – to provide subject-specific advice and expertise; * meetings between the Minister of Public Safety and the victims of Dawson College and other recent gun crimes; and * the collection of ongoing views and comments from individual Canadians. EKOS Research Associates was commissioned by Public Safety Canada to conduct the key stakeholder’s component of the consultation. The consultation focused on the following two primary areas of concern, the results of which are presented in this report: * ways to improve the effectiveness of prohibition measures intended to prevent individuals who may pose a danger to society from possessing or acquiring firearms; and * the implementation of a one-time licensing system that will maintain, and where necessary enhance, background and eligibility checks, safety training and safe storage requirements for firearms owners while improving efficiencies in the system. To obtain feedback from a broad spectrum of stakeholders with an interest in firearms controls, a web-enabled survey was conducted. Public Safety Canada provided a list of 558 organizations from across Canada to be invited to participate in the consultation. This list not only included organizations with a primary focus on firearms and firearms controls, but also organizations working in related areas (e.g., law enforcement, public health, etc). It is important to note that, while there may be thousands of organizations in Canada that are involved in firearms issues, the list of organizations for this study was carefully compiled by Public Safety Canada to provide a balanced mix of organizations, both small and large, from all regions of the country. After the duplicate and non-functioning email addresses were removed from the initial list of organizations, the remaining sample contained 474 stakeholders. These organizations were invited to participate in the study on November 22, 2006. Instructions included with the invitation asked that participants respond to the survey on behalf of the members of their organization. In order to boost the participation rate, two follow-up reminders were sent by e-mail before the consultation closed on December 22, 2006. A total of 137 stakeholders responded to the survey for a final response rate of 29 per cent (based on the return rate of 137 out of the 474 stakeholders). An additional 46 stakeholders accessed the survey, but did not complete it. The results of this consultation can be summarized under three main subject headings: 1) What do stakeholders think is working, 2) What do stakeholders think needs improving, and 3) What are stakeholder’s attitudes towards potential changes? What do stakeholders think is working? Although there were stakeholders that expressed concerns with nearly every facet of the current system, the following areas were seen as largely acceptable in their present format. Firearms Prohibition Orders (FPOs) * There is a high level of support for the courts imposing FPOs on those convicted of an offence. * In general, the more serious the offence, the higher the support for imposing an FPO. * Support varies depending on the type of FPO (i.e. higher for mandatory and discretionary FPOs, lower for preventative). Refusals and Revocations by Chief Firearms Officers (CFOs) * There is also significant, but somewhat less robust support for CFOs having the ability to revoke firearms licences. * As with FPOs, the more alarming the behaviour, the stronger the support for revocation. Mandatory Minimum Age Requirement * Most stakeholders support the current minimum age for applying for a firearms licence; however, if given the option, some would lower it. What do stakeholders think needs improving? The following areas received less support from stakeholders and were seen by many as to be in need of reform. Firearms Safety Training * While a slight plurality of stakeholders consider the current safety training to be adequate, nearly one in three think it needs to be improved. Further, for reasons of public safety, a sizable majority place a moderate to high priority on improving training. * Suggestions for improvement focus on updating course materials and instituting practical tests. Screening of Applicants * The plurality view is that the current screening requirements are adequate; however, for reasons of public safety, a large majority of stakeholders place a moderate to high priority on improving the screening process. * Suggestions for improvement include omitting “irrelevant” or “unreliable” information (e.g., job loss, spousal statements) and removing the five-year cap on examining an applicant’s personal history. Restricted Licences: * The bare majority of stakeholders support the current additional requirements for restricted firearms (e.g., additional safety course). * They also see little validity in the requirement to obtain Authorizations to Transport (ATTs) for these types of firearms (fewer than half support). The Current Licencing System * About half say they are satisfied with the way the current system is functioning, but only about 1 in 3 think it should be maintained. There are concerns with compliance rates and with the cost of administering the system. * Stakeholders are also divided on the requirement for renewals of restricted licences. Many see this as unnecessary, but others think it provides a needed additional safety feature for the ownership of more dangerous weapons. Attitudes towards potential changes A number of potential changes to firearms controls were explored in this study. The following provides a summary of stakeholders’ attitudes towards these potential changes. Potential Changes to FPOs Creation of new mandatory FPOs * Summary of results: depends on the type of offence; support higher for more serious offences. * Stakeholder’s overall position: mixed Increase length of FPOs * Summary of results: Increasing the length of all types of FPOs endorsed by a majority. * Stakeholder’s overall position: support Potential Changes to Revocations Automatic revocations for certain behaviours * Summary of results: half support instituting automatic revocations, but half prefer CFOs continued use of discretion * Stakeholder’s overall position: mixed Minimum time limit for period of revocation * Summary of results: 2 in 3 support imposing a time limit; this should be proportionate to the offence committed. * Stakeholder’s overall position: support Potential Changes to Tracking and Monitoring Prohibited Persons Enhancement of a registry with names of prohibited persons * Summary of results: 8 in 10 favours this change and less than 1 in 10 opposes * Stakeholder’s overall position: support Requirement to report change of residence to police * Summary of results: 7 in 10 favours this change and less than 1 in 5 opposes. * Stakeholder’s overall position: support Monetary fines for prohibited persons * Summary of results: Plurality favour, but sizable opposition as well (close to 1 in 3). * Stakeholder’s overall position: lean to support Requirement to report to police on a regular /ongoing basis * Summary of results: Plurality oppose, but also some support (close to 1 in 3) * Stakeholder’s overall position: lean to oppose Potential Changes to Screening Enhanced screening for restricted licences * Summary of results: divided; seen as increasing accountability but also creating disparity between gun owners. * Stakeholder’s overall position: mixed Additional background references * Summary of results: half oppose and 1 in 3 support; arguments against seem to resonate more than in favour. * Stakeholder’s overall position: lean to oppose Mandatory spousal interviews * Summary of results: half oppose and 1 in 3 support; arguments against seem to resonate more than in favour. * Stakeholder’s overall position: lean to oppose Requirement for CFOs to contact all references * Summary of results: Divided; concerns with potential costs, but also see merit in contacting all references. * Stakeholder’s overall position: mixed Mandatory gun club reporting of suspicious behaviour * Summary of results: about half support and 1 in 3 oppose; arguments in favour seem to resonate more than those opposed. * Stakeholder’s overall position: lean to support Potential Changes to Licensing Combine POLs and PALS * Summary of results: 7 in 10 supports and 1 in 10 opposes. * Stakeholder’s overall position: support Make ATTs part of restricted licences * Summary of results: 7 in 10 supports and 1 in 10 opposes. * Stakeholder’s overall position: support Create a continuous licensing system * Summary of results: 6 in 10 supports and 1 in 5 opposes; arguments in favour resonate more than those opposed. * Stakeholder’s overall position: support More Information: * Supplier: EKOS Research Associated Inc. * PWGSC Contract – OD160-072531/001/CY * Contract Award Date – 11-09-06 To obtain more information on this study, please email: POR-ROP@PS-SP.GC.CA. 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