From: owner-can-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca (Cdn-Firearms Digest) To: cdn-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Subject: Cdn-Firearms Digest V10 #611 Reply-To: cdn-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Sender: owner-can-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Errors-To: owner-can-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Precedence: normal Cdn-Firearms Digest Friday, June 29 2007 Volume 10 : Number 611 In this issue: [COLUMN] Armed U.S. agents a blow to sovereignty [LETTER] Wild West is coming to a town near you Why a new party in Alberta may prove good for all of Canada [LETTER] Going places with guns and cars (II) [LETTER] Going places with guns and cars (II) Protester says supporters will be armed "RE: Phase II Firearms Program...with Stakeholders" One-time cop shooter released from Edmonton Max Grits investigate missing cash Petition to Stop the BATFE Murder victim had 'violent criminal history' Wild Roses in Alberta [LETTER] (Ouch) cannon ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 15:42:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Bruce Mills Subject: [COLUMN] Armed U.S. agents a blow to sovereignty http://www.thestar.com/News/article/230287 Armed U.S. agents a blow to sovereignty Jun 28, 2007 04:30 AM Thomas Walkom The federal government plans to give an unspecified number of American police agents carte blanche to carry guns in Canada. It insists that in the post-9/11 world it is just being sensible. It is not. Few things are more crucial to a nation's sovereignty than its control over legalized violence. It is quite often lawful for the police to shoot you. It is almost never lawful for you to shoot the police. We accept that arrangement only because those who have been given this remarkable life and death authority are in some sense "ours" – they are responsible to governments that we elect. Ottawa's plan would dramatically change this relationship. It would introduce a whole new array of armed peace officers into this country that are answerable to a foreign power. Stephen Harper's government, which quietly published these proposed regulatory changes in its Canada Gazette last weekend, suggests the move is designed primarily to accommodate armed air marshals who routinely fly back and forth across the border. But it also says the arrangement would apply to other situations, including "various cross-border enforcement initiatives between Canada and the United States." This is bureaucratese for open-ended. It means the new law could apply to just about any U.S. agency – from the FBI to Homeland Security to Buffalo police. Presumably, foreign agents would be allowed not just to carry weapons but to use them. Otherwise what would be the point? And if, under this new regime, a U.S. agent killed someone on Canadian soil, to whom would he be responsible? Who would investigate? If the shooting were deemed improper, who would lay charges or impose discipline? Until the `90s, no foreign peace officer was allowed to enter Canada armed – a rule that particularly irked U.S. secret service agents assigned to protect their president during official visits. That rule was relaxed in 1995 specifically to let foreign leaders bring in armed bodyguards. However, these bodyguards – and anyone else who wants to bring a gun in or out of Canada – must apply for one-time permits. For armed air marshals who make regular cross-border runs, this can be a bureaucratic process. But it seems to work. And it surely can't be more onerous than any of the other security provisions imposed on air travellers. So why loosen the rules? The government offers no coherent reason – except to say that in some instances peace officers cross the border several times a day. This may be true. But unless these unspecified agents are planning to police someone else's country, they could simply leave their guns at home. And that is the rub. Since 9/11, the U.S. has already expanded its security and police presence in Canada. The FBI has opened new offices here. The public inquiry into the imprisonment and torture of Maher Arar revealed that agents from the FBI and other unnamed U.S. agencies routinely took part in RCMP meetings dealing with his case. Undercover U.S. agents monitored the Six Nations standoff at Caledonia. Their presence was exposed publicly only after native protestors hijacked their car. But so far, none of these foreign agents has been given broad legal authority to arrest, detain or shoot anyone in Canada – which is why they are not allowed to carry weapons here. That privilege is reserved for Canadian peace officers answerable to Canadians. Now, Ottawa plans to erode this important distinction. For a country that claims to be sovereign, this is a bad idea. Thomas Walkom's column appears Thursday and Sunday. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 15:45:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Bruce Mills Subject: [LETTER] Wild West is coming to a town near you http://www.thestar.com/comment/article/229716 Wild West is coming to a town near you Jun 27, 2007 04:30 AM Re: Relaxed gun rules eyed for foreign police here, June 26 In addition to being an affront to Canada's sovereignty, allowing foreigners who have no knowledge of Canadian values or training in Canadian law to walk the streets of this country with guns can hardly make this a safer place. Are we to tolerate the "shoot first, ask questions later" policies of certain foreign police forces? We have competent police forces in this country and the existing extradition laws should be all that are necessary should a foreign criminal be arrested in Canada. I, for one, would never co-operate with non-Canadian police operating here. Ronald S. Baxter, Toronto ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 20:36:59 -0600 From: Joe Gingrich Subject: Why a new party in Alberta may prove good for all of Canada Citizens Centre for Freedom and Democracy FIRST PRINCIPLES A weekly commentary by Link Byfield June 28, 2007 Why a new party in Alberta may prove good for all of Canada By Link Byfield All through June, we sent out only one Citizens Centre email column. We weren't on holiday. We were immersed in a new undertaking. Since May we have been working with many others to create a new Alberta provincial political party. It was born on Saturday, June 23, at a meeting of 76 people in Red Deer. It will be called the Wildrose Party of Alberta, named for the symbol of Alberta's sovereignty within Confederation. Early reaction has been strong and almost universally positive. We had three reasons for doing this. a.. We have said all along that federal change must come from the provinces, not Ottawa, and that Alberta is the province best positioned to force that change. b.. It has become obvious that Alberta's traditional parties will never stand up to Ottawa, and that a new party must be formed to do it. c.. The change of command from Ralph Klein to Ed Stelmach has left a large void in Alberta's provincial politics. Ever since Stephen Harper, Ted Morton and four other Calgarians penned their famous "firewall" letter in 2001, thinking people have realized that the Reform Party vision of Canada can only be implemented by provincial governments. But will Albertans elect a Reform-style provincial government? Several parties started and failed. Why would we succeed? The small alternatives of the past were not broadly based, and focused on the wrong things. They offered either separation or more right-wing government. Most Albertans have never wanted either, and still don't. Besides, as long as Ralph Klein was premier, the Tories were unbeatable. Politically speaking, Ralph put the whole province happily to sleep. Now that he's gone, Albertans are waking up fast to the eternal reality that they are sitting ducks to federal aggression. Any fond hope in the Harper Conservatives vanished when they flip-flopped on Kyoto, taxed income trusts, and blatantly pandered to the "Quebecois nation" on equalization. It's quickly dawning on Albertans that it is not the job of the country's prime minister to defend Alberta, much as they wish he would. It's the job of the premier of Alberta. Klein never did it. Stelmach isn't doing it. And nobody thinks Liberal leader Kevin Taft will do it either. The most striking thing about Alberta's political scene since Ralph left is that while the Tories are steadily collapsing, the Liberals are not rising. Nobody is. I think Albertans are waiting for the Wildrose Party. As we at the Citizens Centre help build that party, however, it's important to continue the national work we've begun over the past few years. Strangely enough, we remain the only national group focused on the balance of power between Ottawa and the provinces, and between elected legislatures and the courts. Even if the Wildrose Party succeeds brilliantly in Alberta, we must guard against the danger it will be seen as Alberta versus Canada - something the national Liberals and NDP will be quick to assert. There must continue to be national nonpartisan discussion of federal reform such as occurred at our national Calgary Congress. The question is not, and must never become, "What's good for Alberta?" The question must always be "What's good for Canada?" The answer - less taxation, less federal intrusion, more earned prosperity and self-responsibility in all regions - is the same for everyone. - Link Byfield Linkbyfield@ccfd.ca Link Byfield is an Alberta senator-elect and chairman of the Citizens Centre. The Centre promotes the principles of personal freedom and responsible government. - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Citizens Centre for Freedom and Democracy Suite 203, 10441 - 178 Street Edmonton, AB T5S 1R5 Phone: 780-481-7844 Toll Free: 1-866-666-6768 Fax: 780-481-9983 contact@ccfd.ca www.ccfd.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 00:33:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Bruce Mills Subject: [LETTER] Going places with guns and cars (II) http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/news/editorialsletters/story.html?id=f0b0f352-149b-4d12-88c9-e3ef82a1d975 Going places with guns and cars (II) National Post Published: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 Re: Going Places With Guns And Cars, letter, June 23. Ban Guns And Cars, letter to the editor, June 22. In his rebuttal to my letter, T.R. Simon claims that "the primary purpose of a firearm is transportation from this world to the next. It's that simple." Yet millions of guns are used every day in sporting events and for target practice. Inanimate objects rely on the input of their users' intent. They cannot act on their own. A pillow in the wrong hands is far more deadly than a gun in the right ones. Dugald Souter, Kemptville, Ont. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 00:35:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Bruce Mills Subject: [LETTER] Going places with guns and cars (II) http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/news/editorialsletters/story.html?id=e0128037-700d-47bd-aaf1-340e4114a2ec Going places with guns and cars (II) National Post Published: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 Just as an ambulance is a vehicle that assists a paramedic to save lives, any vehicle under control of an intoxicated driver can also take those lives. It's that simple; like a vehicle, a firearm is just another inanimate tool. As a firearm instructor for a federal government department, I am aware that this tool in the hands of a reasonable and just person can safely help transport individuals to places they may or may not want to go, but just like a car, it all depends on the "driver" of that firearm. Kevin Jason Kooistra, Agassiz, B.C. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 09:15:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Bruce Mills Subject: Protester says supporters will be armed http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2007/06/28/4298143-cp.html Protester says supporters will be armed DESERONTO, Ont. (CP) - Mohawk protester Shawn Brant says his supporters will be armed to defend themselves if police try to keep them from blocking Highway 401 and the CN rail line near Deseronto, in eastern Ontario. Both are targets for Friday's aboriginal day of action, along with Highway 2. Brant says commuters between Toronto and Montreal can expect major delays in both directions on the 401 over the 24 hours starting at midnight or earlier. Provincial police have already gathered in the nearby city of Napanee. Brant says the time has passed for marches to educate Canadians about native poverty and suicide. He says militant Mohawks in his area and in other parts of the country will take a stronger stand to demand change now. [Excerpt from another story] http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2007/06/17/4268111-cp.html [...] The protest prompted the OPP to issue an arrest warrant for Brant on a charge of mischief, but police made no move to remove the blockades or arrest him. Brant, a 43-year-old militant Mohawk, is out on bail on previous charges of mischief, disobeying a court order and breach of recognizance in connection with the 30-hour blockade of the nearby CN rail line April 20. [...] Earlier, the Mohawk protesters near Deseronto who threatened that they had arms and were ready to use them, parked an old school bus across secondary Highway 2, forcing a steady stream of traffic and heavy trucks to turn around. "We've made no secret that we have guns within this camp," Brant told The Canadian Press in an interview. "It's our intent to go out and ensure a safe day. Unfortunately, previous incidents have shown that aggressive tactics by the police need to be met with equal resistance by the people that they're bringing those against." [...] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 10:20:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Bruce Mills Subject: "RE: Phase II Firearms Program...with Stakeholders" Subject: "RE: Phase II Firearms Program Legislative Amendments Consultation with Stakeholders" The full version of this report can be found on the Public Opinion Research website at: http://epe.lac-bac.gc.ca/100/200/301/pwgsc-tpsgc/por-ef/public_safety_canada/2007/165-06/report.pdf Yours in LIBERTY! Bruce ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 10:27:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Bruce Mills Subject: One-time cop shooter released from Edmonton Max http://www.edmontonsun.com/News/Edmonton/2007/06/29/4299750-sun.html One-time cop shooter released from Edmonton Max Fri, June 29, 2007 City police are warning the public about a convicted robber and one-time cop shooter who was sprung from the Edmonton Max this week. Police say Ronald Harold Jackson, 53, is at high risk to reoffend violently and poses a significant risk of harm to the community. Jackson was at the Edmonton Institution serving six years for robbery and disguise with intent. In October 2000, he was charged in a gunpoint heist in a pharmacy near 101 Avenue and 120 Street. Cash and prescription drugs were stolen in the robbery. And in January 1974, Jackson was charged with attempted murder after he and an accomplice shot at a cop in Kakabeka Falls, Ont., west of Thunder Bay. On April 15, 1976, Jackson was sentenced to 10 years in prison for the shooting. Edmonton police say Jackson has not completed all recommended treatment programs. He is white, about five-foot-nine, 170 pounds with brown hair and brown eyes. Cops say information about Jackson is being released in the interest of public safety and not to encourage vigilante action. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 10:37:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Bruce Mills Subject: Grits investigate missing cash http://lfpress.ca/newsstand/CityandRegion/2007/06/29/4299421-sun.html Grits investigate missing cash By CHIP MARTIN, SUN MEDIA Fri, June 29, 2007 ST. THOMAS -- Area Liberals learned last night that more than $14,000 went missing from the Elgin-Middlesex-London federal riding association in 2005 and 2006. About 50 association members who gathered at a St. Thomas seniors centre for the association's annual general meeting were told that unauthorized payments not reported to the board of directors were responsible for the loss. The at times tense gathering was also told an offer from an executive of the Ontario wing of the federal party to cover the losses by writing cheques was also inappropriate. "It was one guy's ill-advised idea," riding association president Norm Feaver said of the offer from David Pretlove, then interim executive director of the Ontario wing of the federal party. Pretlove's offer came to the riding association board in an e-mail relayed by the riding's candidate, Suzanne van Bommel. Party members were told to sit tight and await the outcome of an investigation into the missing funds by St. Thomas police to which the board referred the matter. Several board members complained about the issue of the missing funds hitting The London Free Press in advance of last night's meeting. Treasurer Bill Glover said reports like that hurt volunteerism and make it difficult to attract new members. In his detailed report, Glover said he scrutinized the books carefully and learned in 2005 $7,870 was unaccounted for and the following year another $6,349 was gone. He also said a report to last year's annual general meeting in which members were told the association's bank balance stood at nearly $6,000 was incorrect. The balance was about $2,000, he said. Glover said he found himself in a difficult position after spending so much time dealing with the shaky finances. "Suddenly I am the chief speaker at our annual general meeting," Glover said. "I'm not very happy about this. I'm not very happy about the controversy." Glover said he hopes the police investigation will shed light on what had transpired. "If there is newsworthy information, you will hear it (from the police). It will be their decision and their report." Feaver said the association has changed its cheque-writing policies. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 09:39:27 -0600 From: Joe Gingrich Subject: Petition to Stop the BATFE ALERT FROM JEWS FOR THE PRESERVATION OF FIREARMS OWNERSHIP America's Aggressive Civil Rights Organization June 29, 2007 JPFO ALERT: Petition to Stop the BATFE As our regular readers are aware, we have been following the saga of Red's Trading Post (www.jpfo.org/redstradingpost.htm), the Idaho gun store that has been targeted for shutdown by BATFE. General Manager Ryan Horsley has put together a petition to stop the BATFE's blatant targeting of law-abiding firearms dealers, and to institute a fair, constitutional and speedy appeals process. You can read the petition online at www.petitiononline.com/redstrad/petition.html While we commend Red's for this laudable effort to bring attention to the brutal and vindictive nature of this agency, JPFO takes the position that the only true way to stop these abuses is to eliminate BATFE altogether. To learn more about this rogue agency, check out "The Gang" at www.thegangmovie.com . And don't forget to check out our new handbill at www.jpfo.org/ucabolish.jpg ! - - The Liberty Crew PS In response to our June 27 alert, we were contacted by Alan Korwin, who wanted to clarify that he does not consider the NRA a "gun control" group. ============================================================ JPFO mirror site: http://www.jpfo.net ============================================================ LET JPFO KEEP YOU INFORMED -- Sign up today for JPFO Alerts! Just send a blank e-mail to jpfoalerts-subscribe@jpfo.org. To unsubscribe, send a blank email to jpfoalerts-unsubscribe@jpfo.org ============================================================= Regain your freedom - download the song "Justice Day" today! http://www.rebelfirerock.com/downloadjd.html ============================ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 10:41:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Bruce Mills Subject: Murder victim had 'violent criminal history' http://www.ottawasun.com/News/OttawaAndRegion/2007/06/29/4299253-sun.html Murder victim had 'violent criminal history' By LAURA CZEKAJ Fri, June 29, 2007 Phillip Salmon spent the last moments of his life convulsing on the pavement of a Pizza Hut parking lot. Police continue to search for answers why Salmon was fatally shot and how he came to be lying in the parking lot just metres away from Pari's Motel on Montreal Rd. where another man, Ziad Ahmad, had also been shot to death in a motel room. While the moments leading up to the murder of 28-year-old Salmon remain shrouded in mystery, his history is well-documented by the National Parole Board. Salmon was serving a sentence of two years and two months in prison on weapons-related offences when he was granted statutory release last year. In a parole document dated Jan. 6, 2006, before his release, the board recommends several additional conditions be imposed. The documents indicate that during Salmon's most recent offence he pointed a gun at an officer who was responding to a fight between Salmon and two other individuals. The gun was knocked out of his hand and no shots were fired. However, police located a loaded handgun at the scene. "Your current offences are extremely serious and could have resulted in death or serious harm," notes the documents. It also states that Salmon had a previous conviction for uttering threats in 1995, at which time he and his accomplice threatened to kill the victim before stealing his wallet. PREVIOUS CONVICTION Salmon had a previous robbery conviction in 1998 that resulted in his first federal sentence. "During one incident you and your accomplices pistol-whipped a male victim," it says. "Later that same evening, you and your accomplices robbed another male victim while armed with a gun. It appears that the charges resulting from the first incident were stayed." The documents add that Salmon has had a "violent criminal history" and he has reoffended, despite "significant programming interventions" during his first stint in federal prison. However, after Salmon's release the parole board saw fit to loosen his release conditions concerning his treatment and counselling plan on the basis of his successful completion of a treatment program. The board states that Salmon's case management team submitted a positive report concerning his behaviour since his release into the community. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 09:20:03 -0600 From: Edward Hudson Subject: Wild Roses in Alberta On 2007 Jun 28, at 8:36 PM, Joe Gingrich wrote: > Citizens Centre for Freedom and Democracy > ... . > Ever since Stephen Harper, Ted Morton and four other Calgarians penned > their > famous "firewall" letter in 2001, thinking people have realized that > the > Reform Party vision of Canada can only be implemented by provincial > governments. > ... . > The answer - less taxation, less federal intrusion, more earned > prosperity > and self-responsibility in all regions - is the same for everyone. Anybody know if these new Wild Roses in Alberta support personal property and ownership of firearms ?? Sincerely, Eduardo ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 10:48:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Bruce Mills Subject: [LETTER] (Ouch) http://www.ottawasun.com/Comment/Letters/2007/06/29/4299325.html Premier McGuinty has every right to dream of a fantasy world in which a new law will magically turn criminals into angels -- a dream world in which criminals obey the law. However, Ontario is not a magical world. Here, in the real world, handguns have been banned from criminals for seventy-three years. That ban has been as effective as the other bans -- alcohol and illegal drugs. Mr. McGuinty wants fewer shootings. So, in the real world, what will actually do that? Banning handguns? It's failed to stem shootings everywhere it's been tried. What reduces shooting crime? It is impossible to stop the supply of illegal guns. The only thing that works is a combination of effective police work and stiff jail sentences that remove the demand: The economic incentive of owning an illegal gun. Premier McGuinty is entitled to a rich fantasy life-- but when he's on his own time, not when he's devising public policy. Joel Sturm (Ouch) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 08:55:57 -0600 From: "Tom Bryant" Subject: cannon Does anyone have a referrence for laws concerning black powder muzzle loading cannon? ------------------------------ End of Cdn-Firearms Digest V10 #611 *********************************** Submissions: mailto:cdn-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Mailing List Commands: mailto:majordomo@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Moderator's e-mail address: mailto:akimoya@cogeco.ca List owner: mailto:owner-cdn-firearms@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca FAQ list: http://www.magma.ca/~asd/cfd-faq1.html and http://teapot.usask.ca/cdn-firearms/Faq/cfd-faq1.html Web Site: http://teapot.usask.ca/cdn-firearms/homepage.html FTP Site: ftp://teapot.usask.ca/pub/cdn-firearms/ CFDigest Archives: http://www.sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca/~ab133/ or put the next command in an e-mail message and mailto:majordomo@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca get cdn-firearms-digest v04.n192 end (192 is the digest issue number and 04 is the volume) To unsubscribe from _all_ the lists, put the next five lines in a message and mailto:majordomo@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca unsubscribe cdn-firearms-digest unsubscribe cdn-firearms-alert unsubscribe cdn-firearms-chat unsubscribe cdn-firearms end (To subscribe, use "subscribe" instead of "unsubscribe".) 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