From: owner-can-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca (Cdn-Firearms Digest) To: cdn-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Subject: Cdn-Firearms Digest V10 #813 Reply-To: cdn-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Sender: owner-can-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Errors-To: owner-can-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Precedence: normal Cdn-Firearms Digest Friday, September 21 2007 Volume 10 : Number 813 In this issue: Wheat Board director joins Liberal team Re: Cdn-Firearms Digest V10 #811 -- Dave Tomlinson [EDITORIAL] Hunting day needs to be shot down [ONT] John Tory in holster of gun lobby - Bryant McGuinty's Political Ads on ShowCase et al.? "RCMP:...double homicide in Fort Qu'Appelle- Globe & Mail" Double homicide- Regina Leader-Post re:U.S. campus locked down after shooting No 'A' for Canadian cities- The Leader-Post (Regina) "Letters: Ethanol facts made clear/Ethanol-blend gas lesser of..." ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 09:37:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Bruce Mills Subject: Wheat Board director joins Liberal team http://www.canada.com/saskatoonstarphoenix/news/story.html?id=8b928f5f-9e33-450a-837b-bb47eb58c7ac Wheat Board director joins Liberal team Saskatchewan News Network Published: Friday, September 21, 2007 REGINA -- Saying he is frustrated by the Conservative government "attack" on the Canadian Wheat Board, a board director plans to represent the Liberals in the next federal election. Rod Flaman, an Edenwold area farmer, was to be acclaimed Thursday night as the federal Liberal candidate for Regina-Qu'Appelle. Flaman, a farmer-elected director with the Canadian Wheat Board, said the Conservative government's attempt to dismantle the board's monopoly on barley sales is one of the main reasons he is entering the federal political fray. "It's a much broader issue than just the wheat board. (But) I think that the wheat board is a good point for me to launch my campaign from," said Flaman. Flaman was himself once a vocal opponent of the Canadian Wheat Board's monopoly on wheat and barley exports. He was among a number of farmers who protested the single-desk system of selling in the 1990s, when the federal Liberals were in office. But after being elected as a Canadian Wheat Board director in 2000, he came to call the wheat board a success story. Flaman criticized the Conservative government's attempt to end the barley monopoly by an order-in-council this summer, rather than going to Parliament. The government's attempt to remove barley from the board's monopoly by way of regulation was quashed this summer by a federal court ruling. Agriculture Minister Gerry Ritz, citing support from farmers that are calling for an end to the monopoly, has since announced the government will appeal. Flaman said he will continue to serve as a wheat board director until a federal election is called, at which point he would take a leave of absence. (REGINA LEADER-POST) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 08:37:55 -0400 From: "mred" Subject: Re: Cdn-Firearms Digest V10 #811 -- Dave Tomlinson - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 12:56 AM Subject: Re: Cdn-Firearms Digest V10 #811 -- Dave Tomlinson > Re: the Passing of David Tomlinson: > > I am saddened in the extreme to hear of Dave's passing. > > Dave Tomlinson was a somewhat gruff and to-the-point man, and he was the > Point-Man in the Firearms Owners' bid to keep our passion and legal rights > to our hobby alive. > > Dave gave me and many others invaluable advice on many occasions. I will > miss him and his encyclopaedic knowlege. > > I offer my heart-felt condolences to his family. > > Mr. Tomlinson was a man who deserved more respect than he oft-times > received. > > We of the Recreational Firearms Community are severely diminished. > > Rest in Peace, Mr. Tomlinson -- there are not many like you. > > -- Charles Stansfield (A.K.A. 'Red Ensign') I agree, now that hes gone ,who will replace that fountain of gunlaw knowledge ? ed/ontario ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 09:46:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Bruce Mills Subject: [EDITORIAL] Hunting day needs to be shot down http://www.thegatewayonline.ca/editorial-hunting-day-needs-to-be-shot-down-20070918-856.html EDITORIAL Hunting day needs to be shot down Ryan Heise, Deputy News Editor Tuesday, 18 September 2007 The Gateway, the official student newspaper at the University of Alberta I often find myself wandering home late at night multiple times a week. While the eerie quiet of campus after midnight is rather soothing, I’ve recently discovered a sinister scourge that plagues our fine university. I counted 17 of them just last Wednesday during my stroll home, and with each one, I quickened my steps. Rabbits: eating our grass, procreating at a rapid pace, loitering in our green spaces, looking cute, and generally causing no problem whatsoever other than being there. As I finally reached the safety of my home, I slammed and locked the door, poured myself a stiff whiskey to try to ease the anxiety shakes caused by all those bunnies, and was relieved as I glanced down at the newspaper to discover that the Alberta government has named 22 September “Provincial Hunting Day.” The declaration is in response to a significant drop in hunters in our province, a reality that’s being caused by “television, computers, and shopping malls,” according to a news release from Sustainable Resource Development Minister Ted “The Man” Morton. “We hope that Provincial Hunting Day will give young Albertans the opportunity to experience the outdoors and build greater respect for wildlife,” Morton said. I’m not necessarily against hunting for any ethical reasons, but defending the activity under the ethos of a “respect for wildlife” is dubious at best. In fact, shooting an animal in the heart and then posing over its lifeless body with a mile-wide grin seems to be about as far away from respecting wildlife as you can get. It’s akin to stacking up naked POWs at Abu Ghraib and snapping a few shots for your MySpace page. The idea of “natural conservation,” which has also been long-associated with hunting, is another questionable mantra to apply to the shooting of animals, for similar reasons. Hunting is often lauded as important in controlling animal populations, but that seems like a slight exaggeration. The reason we see more and more wild animals heading into urban areas is because humans are constantly encroaching on their habitats. Leaving enough space to sustain animal populations seems more fitting than expediting nature’s course with bullets. Lastly, there are no legitimate sporting roots for hunting. A sport is defined as “an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others for entertainment.” I’ll give hunting the physical exertion and skill part—and even the entertainment facet if you enjoy seeing things die—but moose won’t return a volley of shots, deer can’t draw a bowstring, and bears (though godless killing machines) don’t stand much chance against a .300-caliber rifle with a scope. Hunting rose out of necessity for food. When humans were able to domesticate animals, the original need for hunting died out; we just found it rather enjoyable to continue to taking the lives of animals, as it was considered barbaric to take the lives of one another outside of the realm of war. Instead, with the numbers of hunters beginning to dwindle, maybe it’s time to let the activity die a slow agonizing death—like an elk shot in its hind quarters. There’s a reason young people are turning to television, computers, and malls rather than hunting: most people don’t actually find killing things an enjoyable pastime—at least, not in real life. An awareness campaign on how great it is to kill things is a waste of taxpayers’ money. You’re not going to convince what’s now a more socially aware and urban-based class of young people that hunting is an essential part of life. Perhaps a more realistic approach to pro-hunting campaigns needs to be taken: ads filled with bleeding animals, Dick Cheney shooting old men in the face, and images of animals being skinned for superfluous products and trophies will probably move just as many extra hunting licenses as Provincial Hunting Day will. Now if you’ll excuse me, I have to go shoot some rabbits for the hell of it. Comments James Cornell September 19, 2007, 01:59 I take issue with this article. One could argue that via hunting, one gains more understanding of the animal you hunt. If you've ever been hunting, esspecially more difficult varieties like bow hunting, you learn a lot about both the animals and the environment they live in. Also, hunting is not really a great cause of most animal deaths, even endangered ones. Encroachment by humans on natural habitat is, or the related destruction of human population growth (for example the effects of global warming on the northern climate). I would suggest then that the average hunter has far more respect and understanding of animals than you do. Perhaps it's not a sport, and maybe hunters don't need to do it anymore, but in the end by turning on our computers and driving our cars, by building our nice suburban homes, we are doing far more damage than any band of Albertan hunters. In the end we are all just as guilty of killing little Bambi's mother as that hunter might be, the only difference is you seem to think you have some kind of moral high ground because you don't kill for sport. You just apathetically allow killing for your personal conveniences. The result is far more deadly than a few hunters killing elk. Unless you are willing to forsake all the modern benefits of society, you hold no moral authority, and should just join the rest of us in not giving a damn. anonymous September 19, 2007, 14:34 "It’s akin to stacking up naked POWs at Abu Ghraib and snapping a few shots for your MySpace page." Wow. This pretty much torpedoes the credibility of the article even if it makes valid points. Why not throw in a reference to Hitler just for good measure? It would appear that the writer is necessarily against hunting for specific ethical reasons despite stating the opposite albeit in rather vague terms. If the writer has discovered a newfound respect for wildlife and their habitats, perhaps he might reconsider attending a university that is in bed with oil companies. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 14:19:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Bruce Mills Subject: [ONT] John Tory in holster of gun lobby - Bryant http://www.newswire.ca/en/releases/archive/September2007/21/c3578.html Attention News Editors: John Tory in holster of gun lobby - Bryant Nothing "virtual" about legal hand guns in Ontario, they are real TORONTO, Sept. 21 /CNW/ - John Tory's debate performance proved again he refuses to stand up against the gun lobby and speak out against hand guns, says Attorney General Michael Bryant. "John Tory is in the holster of the gun lobby," said Bryant. "Police tell us one third of the handguns used to commit crimes were stolen from their legal owners. We need to choke off that supply of guns to the streets." Confronting gun crime means doing everything possible, Bryant said. That means both tightening the flow of illegal guns across the border and choking off the supply of stolen legally owned guns through a hand gun ban. Tory misled viewers of yesterday's leaders' debate by saying hand guns are already "virtually" banned. The truth is that handguns are not banned, they are regulated. There are over half a million legal privately owned handguns in Canada, including 215,000 in Ontario. There are a several private retailers of handguns in Ontario, and any adult who passes safety test and background check can get a license to buy a handgun if they self-declare as a gun collector or target shooter. But you don't ever need to set foot in a gun club to be a "target shooter", or ever have seen a gun to be a "collector". Weapons available to target shooters and collectors include semi-automatic, high calibre handguns. "John Tory saying handguns are already banned in Ontario is like saying prostitution is banned in Amsterdam. He has no credibility on crime when he refuses to support a handgun ban," said Bryant. For further information: Ben Chin, (416) 961-3800 ext. 412, ben_chin@ontarioliberal.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 16:33:11 -0600 From: Dave Jordan Subject: McGuinty's Political Ads on ShowCase et al.? Here's one for you political types. I have been seeing McGuinty's Public/Private school advert., on *all* of CanWest Global's Canada-wide stations, like The History Channel, all three ShowCase stations and lord only know on what all other Canada-wide stations in very heavy rotation, especially late in the evening out here in Saskatchewan and all across the rest of the country, I'd imagine. Not that the Ontario election has anything to do with me, but why haven't I seen any of the opposition parties ads on these stations as well? Aren't media outlets under the elections act supposed to provide equal advertising time to all political parties, or not? And why am "I" seeing this ad out here in Saskatchewan, anyways? Later-DRGJ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 16:52:02 -0600 From: Dave Jordan Subject: "RCMP:...double homicide in Fort Qu'Appelle- Globe & Mail" Subject: "RCMP investigating double homicide in Fort Qu'Appelle- Globe & Mail" RCMP investigating double homicide in Fort Qu'Appelle http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20070921.wrcmpfort0921/BNStory/National/home The Canadian Press September 21, 2007 at 10:37 AM EDT REGINA — Mounties in Fort Qu'Appelle, just north of Regina, are investigating what they're describing as a double homicide Thursday night. Police say they were called shortly after 10:00 p.m. following a report of several people being shot at a residence. Two people died at the scene and three others were taken to hospital with undetermined injuries. RCMP say it appears that several people entered the home and then fled after the shooting. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 16:57:03 -0600 From: News@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Subject: Double homicide- Regina Leader-Post Double homicide http://www.canada.com/reginaleaderpost/story.html?id=936a19fb-3cc6-4778-a4b4-df0d92d9173c&k=37386 Image The RCMP Forensic team at the scene of a double homicide that occurred Thursday night in Fort Qu'Appelle. Bryan Schlosser, Leader-Post RCMP investigating double homicide in Fort Qu'Appelle Leader-Post staff Published: Friday, September 21, 2007 A small house in Fort Qu'Appelle remained cordoned off with yellow police tape Friday after a deadly shooting overnight. Two people are dead and three more are in hospital with undisclosed injuries. Police are continuing to look for suspects. RCMP Sgt. Doug Coleman told media gathered at the crime scene that a number of people entered the house at about 10 p.m. Thursday and fled after the shooting. He said those people are "persons of interest" to police. Coleman did not release the names of any of the five victims, but said they were between the ages of 22 and 51. Neighbours believe the shooting may have been gang-related and said that police were frequently called to the home, including earlier in the day Thursday. A single mother living next door with her two kids expressed fear that the shooting happened so close to her home. "It could have happened to me, my children or to the other residents in the building," said the neighbour of the apartment building next door who declined to give her name. © Leader-Post 2007 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 18:15:59 -0500 From: "gwsadair" Subject: re:U.S. campus locked down after shooting This is going to be crass but I just Goggled the Delaware Campus web site and guess what it has in common with all the other campus shootings both here in Canada and the rest of the world. If you said crazed killer...WRONG. How about High powered weapon....Wrong, but then again aren't they supposed to be high powered and what is high powered anyway. No the one thing that is common throughout every school shooting in the world in the past twenty years is this... THEY WERE ALL GUN FREE ZONES. Delaware College Student handbook states quite clearly that the mere possession of a firearm will result in immediate expulsion from the grounds( guess they missed one). George Adair No one ever said our freedoms would come cheap. Some we must be prepared to fight for, some we must be prepared to die for. Take freedom for granted once and it will be gone forever. 1776 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 17:25:00 -0600 From: Dave Jordan Subject: No 'A' for Canadian cities- The Leader-Post (Regina) *Not Firearm Related! No 'A' for Canadian cities http://www.canada.com/reginaleaderpost/news/story.html?id=977a0ccd-1439-4d7a-adbd-312efb5fcf85&p=1 Kathryn Young, CanWest News Service Published: Friday, September 21, 2007 Victoria has the greenest urban transportation practices in Canada, followed closely by Vancouver, Ottawa-Gatineau, and Winnipeg. But none of the 27 cities surveyed received an 'A' on their report card, says a study to be released today. While the top cities received Bs, six others got Fs -- St. John's, N.L. (ranked 27th), Sudbury, Ont., Moncton, N.B., Barrie, Ont., and St. Catharines-Niagara, Ont. "It's amazing how many shades of green there are in this country," said Toronto international trade lawyer Barry Appleton, whose private Appleton Charitable Foundation funded the study, conducted in co-operation with the University of British Columbia's business school. Toronto and Montreal tied for fifth in the ranking, which examined 17 factors, including public transit ridership, number of vehicles per capita, number of hybrid or alternative-fuel vehicles in public transit and municipal fleets, policies such as anti-idling and trip-reduction programs, new housing density, greenhouse gas emissions, employer-sponsored eco-transit pass programs and hybrid taxis. "We set a 10-year achievable target as to where every city could be at and none of them were able to make their target at this point, so none of them got an A," said Appleton. "That which gets measured gets done," said Daniel Muzyka, dean of UBC's Sauder School of Business. "There's really room for improvement across the board. They're tough graders," he said about the study's panel of experts that included economists, climatologists, urban designers, architects and transportation planners. And why the failures? "What gives them all F grades is they're really not making efforts," Appleton said, pointing to St. John's program called STEER -- Smart Taxis Encouraging Environmental Respect. "Great name but when I look at the number of hybrid or alternative fuel taxis in the fleet," he said. " Zero." "A lot of cities have announced things, but they haven't done them. If you don't do them, you don't get points in our studies. You can't just talk it, you gotta walk it." The low grades are not simply a function of city size, since the study assessed the various factors on a per-capita basis, although larger cities can take advantage of economies of scale. However, size doesn't stop any city from taking action on housing density, anti-idling, transit passes, hybrid and alternative fuel vehicles or free downtown transit, the report said. "We think the public should know how the cities perform," said James Tansey, who teaches business ethics at the business school. The study should encourage municipalities to improve by giving them examples of best practices in other cities. "Politicians are motivated by these kinds of public competitions," Tansey said. "I'm almost certain it's going to upset some people." Calgary and Edmonton both received Ds for their heavy use of cars, urban sprawl and high carbon emissions. Calgary has the highest level of vehicle ownership in Canada, and a great climate change action plan that hasn't been acted upon. Edmonton can improve by putting more of its Environmental Strategic Plan into effect. Winnipeg came fourth because it has free transit in the downtown core and affordable transit passes. About 26 per cent of taxis are hybrids -- the second highest city after Victoria. Winnipeg also boasts relatively low carbon emissions and vehicle ownership. Regina and Saskatoon tied for 20th spot and D grades because of low density, negligible employer transit passes, and few hybrid or alternative-fuel vehicles. They need to address anti-idling and trip reduction programs. However, Regina does have good air quality and Saskatoon has high bike ridership and a BioBus pilot project to use biodiesel. The 27 cities studied represent two-thirds of Canada's population and 77 per cent of the urban population. "Both Vancouver and Victoria really did well because not only did they announce policies, they actually did something about it," Appleton said. About 30 per cent of Victoria's taxis are hybrids and 36 per cent of its municipal vehicles use alternative fuels. Carbon emissions and ozone levels are among the best. High housing density means transit systems can be more cost effective, and 61 per cent of Victoria's housing starts are rowhouses and apartments, compared with the average of 39 per cent across the 27 cities. Vancouver also has better air quality, hybrid taxis, and 66 per cent high-density housing starts, but fell behind Victoria on the number of people who walk, bike or take the bus to work. Ottawa-Gatineau did well because 25 per cent of workers don't drive to work, and it has employer-sponsored eco-transit passes, anti-idling bylaws and 48 per cent high-density housing starts. However the region lost points because it has zero hybrid taxis, for example. "Ontario cities didn't do so well," Appleton said, pointing to Windsor, London and Kitchener that are affected by pollution from the Ohio Valley. Toronto benefits from the lowest number of cars per capita, and high transit use, high density and anti-idling bylaws. Montreal took top honours for housing density and number of people walking, biking or taking transit to work. Appleton plans to audit the cities again next year to see if they've improved. "We're hoping urban governments are going to able to use this data to assess themselves -- what works and what doesn't work," he said. "They can help to figure out where they would rank next year if they started making changes." "I actually come out of it feeling somewhat better about the probability of change," said Muzyka. © The Leader-Post (Regina) 2007 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 17:30:19 -0600 From: Dave Jordan Subject: "Letters: Ethanol facts made clear/Ethanol-blend gas lesser of..." *Not Firearm Related! Subject: "Letters: Ethanol facts made clear/Ethanol-blend gas lesser of two evils" Ethanol facts made clear http://www.canada.com/saskatoonstarphoenix/news/letters/story.html?id=a960f80c-7a7a-4bed-89e9-bb4361a1c1b3 [Archived] The StarPhoenix Published: Monday, September 10, 2007 I just purchased a 2008 automobile, which allows for the use of ethanol fuel (E-85). However, the owner's manual states the following: "The characteristics of E-85 fuel make it unsuitable for use when ambient temperatures fall below 0 degrees F. In the range 0-32 F you may experience an increase in the time it takes your engine to start and a deterioration in drivability (sags and/or hesitation until the engine is fully warmed up. "Because E-85 fuel contains less energy per gallon than gasoline, you will experience an increase in fuel consumption. You can expect your mpg and your driving range to decrease about 30 per cent compared to gasoline." Is this why we want to produce ethanol fuel? Mel Cannell Saskatoon © The StarPhoenix (Saskatoon) 2007 Ethanol-blend gas lesser of two evils http://www.canada.com/saskatoonstarphoenix/news/letters/story.html?id=d199404a-e176-4567-a899-b9dc67ff8c0f The StarPhoenix Published: Friday, September 21, 2007 Re: Ethanol facts made clear (SP, Sept. 10). As a chemical technology student at SIAST, I was intrigued by Mel Cannell's letter. After some research and consultation with my chemistry instructor, I think further facts on ethanol blended gas and ethanol combustion need to be made clear. Ethanol blended gasolines reduce carbon dioxide, carbon monoxide, hydrocarbons, nitrogen dioxide, sulphur dioxide, benzene, butadiene, volatile organic compounds and particulate matter emissions. This reduces particulates in the air, greenhouse gas emissions and vehicular emissions that contribute to acid rain. It's also noteworthy that ethanol is a biodegradable, renewable resource (damage from a spill would be fraction of an oil spill) and that the blended gas can run in most engines without requiring modifications. As well, although E-85 fuel produces 28 per cent less energy than an equivalent amount of conventional gas, the actual drop in miles per gallon is closer to 15 per cent. E-85 fuels also run better in high performance applications than regular gas. As for hard starting and deterioration of drivability when the temperatures drops below 0 F, it's true, but only to some small degree. I can live with the odd extra turn of the key or a little mild hesitation (and then only until the engine warms up) in exchange for the cited benefits. Plus, students like me may solve that problem by developing a new non-fossil-fuel-based fuel additive. As long as we rely on fossil fuel as much as we do, ethanol blended fuels are the lesser of the two evils. Most importantly, ethanol production will benefit Saskatchewan's economy. Jason Oliver Saskatoon © The StarPhoenix (Saskatoon) 2007 ------------------------------ End of Cdn-Firearms Digest V10 #813 *********************************** Submissions: mailto:cdn-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Mailing List Commands: mailto:majordomo@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Moderator's e-mail address: mailto:d.jordan@sasktel.net List owner: mailto:owner-cdn-firearms@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca FAQ list: http://www.magma.ca/~asd/cfd-faq1.html and http://teapot.usask.ca/cdn-firearms/Faq/cfd-faq1.html Web Site: http://teapot.usask.ca/cdn-firearms/homepage.html FTP Site: ftp://teapot.usask.ca/pub/cdn-firearms/ CFDigest Archives: http://www.sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca/~ab133/ or put the next command in an e-mail message and mailto:majordomo@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca get cdn-firearms-digest v04.n192 end (192 is the digest issue number and 04 is the volume) To unsubscribe from _all_ the lists, put the next five lines in a message and mailto:majordomo@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca unsubscribe cdn-firearms-digest unsubscribe cdn-firearms-alert unsubscribe cdn-firearms-chat unsubscribe cdn-firearms end (To subscribe, use "subscribe" instead of "unsubscribe".) 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