From: owner-can-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca (Cdn-Firearms Digest) To: cdn-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Subject: Cdn-Firearms Digest V10 #832 Reply-To: cdn-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Sender: owner-can-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Errors-To: owner-can-firearms-digest@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca Precedence: normal Cdn-Firearms Digest Sunday, September 30 2007 Volume 10 : Number 832 In this issue: Founder of the National Firearms Association remembered Great Britain Ministers 'covered up' gun crime - Times Online Re: Founder of the National Firearms Association remembered RE: The Tom Flanagan Book ‘Wasn’t about the cash for me’ Cuckoo nest Saudi Arabia Is 'World-Class Exporter' of Terror self reviewed, book review of "Outrage" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 18:48:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Bruce Mills Subject: Founder of the National Firearms Association remembered http://www.canada.com/edmontonjournal/news/story.html?id=3e1fd3ee-f378-4db9-a35b-5a821f40df98&k=145 Founder of the National Firearms Association remembered Don Retson, edmontonjournal.com Published: 10:13 am A celebration of the life of Dave Tomlinson, the man who founded the National Firearms Association of Canada, is being held today in Edmonton. The lives of many Canadians changed the night police rolled up to Mr. Tomlinson's local home years ago and seized a prized collection of firearms. Mr. Tomlinson made up his mind that night to get involved in an organization to protect and advise law-abiding gun owners of their rights. In his spare time, he studied Canada's gun laws. Not only did Mr. Tomlinson get his own firearms back, he went on to act many times as an expert witness for the defence. In 1984, he formed the National Firearms Association of Canada. "He had his firearms illegally seized for no reason," brother Jim said of the incident that he believes led Mr. Tomlinson to become so passionate against gun-control laws. "The police just showed up sometime after midnight and wanted his guns. He had no problems (with the law); no priors or anything else. He just had quite a few firearms which he had collected after World War Two. They were all legally registered." David Allan Tomlinson, long-time president of the National Firearms Association, passed away on Sept. 18 after a battle with cancer. He was 73. Blair Hagen, an NFA official from Vancouver, said Mr. Tomlinson had "a deep impact" on firearm politics and legislation, beginning in the mid-1970s when he was involved in an earlier incarnation of the NFA and from 1984 to present as president and legal adviser to the NFA. Hagen said Mr. Tomlinson's study and analysis of firearms control laws and the political system, "revolutionized" the way the firearms community approached the courts and legislatures across Canada. Longtime friend Ernest McKenzie said Mr. Tomlinson accurately predicted that the federal firearms registry would turn into a financial disaster and that it would drive a wedge between the police and public. Mr. Tomlinson is survived by his wife Judith and daughter Sarah. dretson@thejournal.canwest.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 14:54:44 -0600 From: Edward Hudson Subject: Great Britain Ministers 'covered up' gun crime - Times Online http://www.timeson line.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article2328368.ece From The Sunday Times August 26, 2007 Ministers 'covered up' gun crime David Leppard THE government was accused yesterday of covering up the full extent of the gun crime epidemic sweeping Britain, after official figures showed that gun-related killings and injuries had risen more than fourfold since 1998. The Home Office figures - which exclude crimes involving air weapons - show the number of deaths and injuries caused by gun attacks in England and Wales soared from 864 in 1998-99 to 3,821 in 2005-06. That means that more than 10 people are injured or killed in a gun attack every day. This weekend the Tories said the figures challenged claims by Jacqui Smith, the home secretary, that gun crime was falling. David Davis, the shadow home secretary, tells her in a letter today that the “staggering findings” show her claims that gun crime has fallen are “inaccurate and misleading”. The political row erupted as Merseyside police continued to question a 15-year-old boy about the murder last week of Rhys Jones in Croxteth, Liver-pool. The 11-year-old was returning from football training when he was shot by a hooded teenager on a bicycle. Experts are examining a BMX bike abandoned in another area of the city. Six other teenagers, including two girls, from the Croxteth and Norris Green areas were in custody last night. Two others have been released on bail. Senior officers believe Rhys died because he walked into the line of fire between the gunman and his intended target, who is thought to have been one of three teenagers 30-70 yards away. Bernard Hogan-Howe, the chief constable of Merseyside, said yesterday: “We still need help in solving this crime. We need witnesses who are prepared to stand up in court.” Hogan-Howe said he had invested “a huge amount of policing” into the gang-related problems in the Croxteth area and had had a great deal of success. A minute’s applause was held yesterday at Goodison Park stadium where Everton, the team Rhys loved, were playing Black-burn Rovers. The 11-year-old’s murder has led to a public outcry against Britain’s gang and gun culture and a furious political debate about the government’s efforts to tackle the problem. Smith last night proposed the setting up of neutral “drop-off zones” where illegal weapons could be handed in. “This means we can actually take that gun out of circulation and stop it from doing harm,” she said. The Home Office has repeatedly denied gun crime is rising. Last week it pointed to the latest annual crime statistics, which appeared to show that overall gun crime was 13% down on the previous year. But in his letter to Smith, released today, Davis said these claims were contradicted by figures “buried” in a Home Office statistical bulletin, published ear-lier this year. “[Here] we find the most revealing indication of the true gun-re-lated violence sweeping Britain. Gun-related killings and injuries (excluding air weapons) have increased over fourfold since 1998,” he wrote. The Home Office said: "We remain fully committed to tackling gang culture and gun and knife crime through responsive policing, tough powers and funding prevention projects." Rhys’s killing fell on the anniversary of the fatal shooting of Liam Smith, a senior figure in a local gang known as the Strand Gang. Several members of the rival Croxteth Crew were found guilty of his murder. Locals had said they believed members of the Strand Gang were planning a reprisal shooting to mark the anniversary. “We always deploy additional resources around these anniversaries,” said Chief Superintendent Chris Armitt. “But we are over half a mile here from Croxteth, and Norris Green is further away again. The additional resources [were] focused only where gangs predominantly operate.” Extract from letter by David Davis, shadow home secretary, to Jacqui Smith, home secretary, August 24, 2007 Dear Jacqui, We are all concerned at the rising tide of violent crime that has manifested itself this week in a spate of shocking killings, including the tragic death of young Rhys Jones. You told GMTV this morning that “statistics aren’t a help but gun crime is down”. That is an extraordinary claim. According to Home Office figures, gun crime (excluding air weapons) has almost doubled since Labour took office. The annual crime figures, released by the Home Office in July, suggest a 13% decrease on the previous year, which neglects the 18% increase in firearm homicides. However, perhaps most telling is the massive increase in gun violence, disclosed on 25 January of this year (Homicides, Firearm Offences and Intimate Violence 2005-06, Home Office). Buried at page 36 . . . we find [that] . . . gun-related killings and injuries (excluding airguns) have increased by over fourfold since 1998. In light of this information, your claim that gun crime is down is both inaccurate and misleading. One clear fact on gun-related violence is that if you don’t count it, you won’t be able to tackle it. Your predecessors opted for spin over substance. I hope that is a path you will avoid and would be grateful for an explanation of what action you plan. Yours sincerely, David Davis Related Links How worried should we be about gun crime? Serious gun crime is concentrated in particular parts of England; internationally, the country has a low death rate from guns http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article2324223.ece Multimedia Sky News video from latest shooting http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/audio_video/times_online_tv/?channel=Sky%20News%20Latest&clipid=1212_24902 Background Factfile: teenagers gunned down across UK http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article2313547.ece Three murders in four days in South London http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article1343484.ece We Shall Overcome, protesters sing at peace vigil http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article1426551.ece More Related Links Applause, not silence, is tribute to Rhys http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article2327901.ece Gang murder ‘anniversary’ that may have killed Rhys http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article2327781.ece Police fiddle while children are killed http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/minette_marrin/article2327834.ece Multimedia *Rhys Jones shooting http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/template/2.0-0/element/pictureGalleryPopup.jsp?id=2323571&&offset=0&§ionName=UKCrime&randnum=1191114525203 *You must enable pop-ups to see slide-show, if you are prompted in Win XP. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 22:35:48 -0700 From: "Jim Szpajcher" Subject: Re: Founder of the National Firearms Association remembered Folks - > A celebration of the life of Dave Tomlinson, the man > who founded the National Firearms Association of > Canada, is being held today in Edmonton. As one of the group who attended the memorial this afternoon, I was pleased to see friends I hadn't seen in some time, including one I hadn't seen for at least five years, but most of the folks I didn't personally know. It was a smallish group of family and friends - perhaps 100 people or so. There was a lot of grey hair, but there also were children and young people present. In the guest book were names I recognized from the shooting community, but had no faces to put to them. Family, friends and members of the shooting community were among the speakers. Among the several speakers was Dave's sister-in-law, Barb Stearns, who gave us a humorous insight into how Dave's personality was viewed by family members, which in itself was a marvellous eulogy. It was clear that he will be missed not only by the recreational firearms community, but also by his family, who saw him in a completely different light than most of us in the RFC. I came away knowing more about Dave's life, and felt richer for having known him. Knowing that the anti-gun forces are still active and strong in Canada, I understood how Lee felt when Stonewall Jackson was shot, in the days leading to Gettysburg. For what it's worth. Jim Szpajcher St. Paul, AB ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 06:09:26 -0500 From: 10x <10x@telus.net> Subject: RE: The Tom Flanagan Book At 06:07 PM 9/29/2007 -0400, you wrote: > >Re: "people associated with the Free Dominion Web site held >an organizational meeting in May, 2007, to found a new >version of the Reform Party." > >Flanagan doesn't have his facts quite right. > >I was one of the people involved, in Kingston, in May 2007, at that >"organizational meeting". > >We (FD people) had our meeting in Kingston, where we decided it wasn't >going to be Reform 2 but instead it would be a pressure group to try and >influence CPC policies more towards the right. We had no intentions of >starting any new party. He has enough contacts within our group, to know >this. He does not care about the truth. All he cares about is getting his name in the media. It is very likely he will take a run at the leadership of the C.P.C. I have come to realize that politicians of any stripe have shifting ethics and some very flexable moral fibre coupled with a desire to achieve. That way they can give voters exactly what the politicians promised but the opposite of what the voters want. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 08:30:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Bruce Mills Subject: ‘Wasn’t about the cash for me’ http://www.abbynews.com/portals-code/list.cgi?paper=38&cat=23&id=1073018&more=0 ‘Wasn’t about the cash for me’ By ROCHELLE BAKER Abbotsford News Sep 27 2007 The most notable thing about Steven Ryan Porsch is how normal a young man he appears. With his short-cropped dark hair and baby face, the 22-year-old looks like every neighbour’s son. When he makes his appearance in Vancouver Supreme Court each day in his ill-fitting tan suit a little too long in the legs, he doesn’t look as menacing as he does sleepy. He doesn’t look like someone who would traffic machine guns capable of penetrating body armour and illicit pistols to people he believed were criminals. Nor does he seem like someone who’d contract a team of arsonists to drive a prominent entrepreneur out of business, or who’d attempt to cut off someone’s pinkie finger to collect a drug debt. But according to a statement of facts presented by Crown counsel Todd Busziak Monday, Porsch did just that and more. Porsch – a middle man in a gun-trafficking ring – entered guilty pleas to a string of charges which stemmed from an undercover police investigation into a series of arsons targeting prominent Abbotsford businessman Paul Esposito. The Espositos lost more than $ 9 million when fires destroyed Wild Bill’s and Finnegan’s pubs and damaged the Abbotsford Liquor Store. At the start of his sentencing hearing Monday, Porsch pleaded guilty to weapons trafficking and conspiring to commit an indictable offence. He also pleaded to robbery and possession of a prohibited weapon in relation to an April 2005 marijuana grow rip, and to assault causing bodily harm in connection with the beating of a drug peddler in November of the same year. In February, he pleaded to four counts of counselling arson in connection to the Esposito arsons and a series of fires at a Homeview Street fourplex. Porsch’s involvement in the Canada-wide gun ring was uncovered during Project BOSCO – an Abbotsford Police uncover investigation of the Esposito arsons that occurred November 2004 to January 2005. BOSCO featured an undercover officer (UCO) posing as a “Mr Big” within the criminal underworld. First connecting with the individuals Porsch contracted for the arsons – Devon MacDonald and Shaun Fitzgerald – the UCO was then able to cultivate the trust of Steven Porsch. According to the statement of facts presented in court, while talking to the UCO, Porsch said his best friend had been contracted by a third individual who, for apparent business reasons, wanted various properties in the city of Abbotsford burned down, When the UCO asked Porsch why he was getting paid so little money – $1,000 per fire – Porsch replied: “The reason I got less though, the guy who I did it for is a good friend of mine. Like, I didn’t want to charge him anything, he’s more of, uh, he opened a door for me . . . it wasn’t about the cash for me.” According to the UCO, the pair had been discussing a possible weapons sale, and the “door” which Porch’s friend opened was to the illegal gun trade. On June 27, 2005 Porsch asked the UCO if he was interested in buying guns. The officer said if he bought them, he’d want 15 or more. That conversation would launch Project E-Portal, an investigation conducted by the Combined Forces Special Enforcement Unit. E-Portal’s objectives were to buy as many firearms as possible to get them off the street, identify their source and obtain enough evidence to arrest and charge the offenders. From July 20 to Dec. 8, 2005, Porsch conducted eight gun deals. For a total of $138,400, he sold uncover officers nine silencers and 40 firearms: 23 handguns, one AR-15 assault rifle, 10 Sten 9 mm sub-machine guns, and six Bren machine guns with a .303 calibre bullet capable of piercing Kevlar body armour and firing 540 bullets per minute. At the close of the E-portal investigation, Porsch and nine other suspects hailing from Hope, Langley, Surrey, Coquitlam and North Vancouver were arrested, including Abbotsford resident Matthew Gordon Campbell, also charged with firearms trafficking and one count of conspiracy in connection with the gun trafficking. Approximately one-third of the over 100 weapons purchased by police were purchased in Abbotsford. According to Buziak, police say the ring was one of the biggest uncovered in western Canada. As far as the arsons are concerned, Buziak said Porsch won’t give up the “best friend” or the third party who hired him to arrange the arsons. “It’s the Crown’s position he knows both,” said Buziak, “but he refuses to co-operate or name them.” Buziak will argue it is an aggravating factor when making sentencing recommendations to the court. “Those two people still pose a risk to not only the Espositos, but the community in general,” said Buziak. Buziak is recommending Porsch get 16 to 17 years in prison. He noted in court Tuesday that if Porsch were sentenced individually, the range would be substantially longer and the shorter term could be considered “generous.” Sentencing submissions by Porsch’s defence lawyers, Jeff Ray and David Silverman, began Tuesday afternoon and are expected to finish today. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 13:21:22 -0400 From: Lee Jasper Subject: Cuckoo nest Ed (Sieb) commented: >Re: "people associated with the Free Dominion Web site held >an organizational meeting in May, 2007, to found a new >version of the Reform Party." > >Flanagan doesn't have his facts quite right. > >I was one of the people involved, in Kingston, in May 2007, at that >"organizational meeting". > >We (FD people) had our meeting in Kingston, where we decided it wasn't going to be Reform 2 but instead it would be a pressure group to try and influence CPC policies more towards the right. We had no intentions of starting any new party. He has enough contacts within our group, to know this. > > Ed, do you remember what Ont. premier Mike Harris's reaction was to 'pressure' groups? No one 'pressures' Steph and the PMO. It's interesting for a long time observer and participant in the 'political process' how the lustre has worn off the CPC. It was fully expected after watching the melt down of Sir Ralph in Alberta and Iron Mike in Ontario. (And numerous other predecessors). Like I've said before, "Extreme politics quickly becomes wearing" and soon start losing blocks of voter support as first one group followed by another group and then the next group feels maligned, impugned, ignored, etc." I note the $14 bil surplus = excess tax dollars, amazingly found by our 'surprised' fed finance min., Flaherty. Next we have the U.N. firearm marking protocol coming, in just over two months. Considering that we've had the absolute 'best of times' over the past few years, combined with the recent military spending - the finance types had to have been way off in their projections. Ontario voters appear to be coalescing around the PC 'faith based' school funding issue. PC leader Tory says simply, "I'm gonna do it - because it's right." (Actually meaning, I think I can win some Tronna area seats in the racially mixed 416, 905 - let's not forget the 289 and 647 area code overlays). Is he going to seek a s. 93 Constitutional amendment to allow for such a drastic change in direction - like he'd need to do to abolish Roman Catholic school funding? What's zat, is the answer. (The most recent polls are disappointing). Any possibility of revisiting the Ontario spring bear hunt? What's zat? How about the NDP ammo bill that leaves your name carelessly lying about on gun store counters or in Scrappie Tire? One response I got was that even Iron Mike Harris wouldn't go there. (I aleady knew that). What crap is this? When did Liberal Michael Bryant write policy for the Ont. PCs? And now we have fed Health min Clement, Justice min Nicholson and Safety min Day announcing the Liberals 'go easy' on soft drug use days, are over. Don't know how long it will take our New Gov't to get the enabling legislation on the books - but I fully expect they'll forget to build the prisons to hold the added inmates - and therefore the courts will need to become highly creative with sentencing. Simple equation: "No cell = No jail time." What's the old line about the inmates running the asylum? The cuckoo nest lives. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 12:36:09 -0600 From: Joe Gingrich Subject: Saudi Arabia Is 'World-Class Exporter' of Terror To: Canadian Firearms Digest Insider Report from NewsMax.com NewsMax.com 4152 West Blue Heron Blvd, Ste 1114 Riviera Beach, FL, 33404 USA Saudi Arabia Is 'World-Class Exporter' of Terror The involvement of Saudi Arabian citizens in worldwide terror did not end with the 9/11 attacks - today thousands of Saudis are managing terrorist networks and orchestrating suicide bombings and jihadist attacks around the globe. Saudi Arabia has become, in short, a world-class exporter of Islamic violence, according to Youssef Ibrahim of the New York Sun, who cites these alarming developments: a.. As many as 30 Saudis enter Iraq each day with plans to become suicide bombers and kill Americans and Shiite Muslims. b.. More than 1,000 Saudis are now training at an al-Qaida camp in Syria, while others are training in camps in Pakistan, Afghanistan and Iran. c.. Of the insurgents who fought the Lebanese army's during the siege of the Nahr el-Bared refugee camp, which claimed more than 300 lives, more than 30 percent were Saudis. d.. At least 800 Saudis are currently being held in Iraq or Jordan, charged with terrorist acts or intentions. e.. Outside the Middle East, Saudi jihadists are also operating in Somalia, Malaysia, Bosnia-Herzegovina, and the Philippines. Fifteen of the 19 hijackers on Sept. 11, 2001, were Saudis. Ibrahim pointed to a segment of ABC's "World News Tonight" on the sixth anniversary of the 9/11 attacks, which detailed how Islamist terror originates and ends with "Saudi Arabia, its people, and its government," Ibrahim writes. The report "conjured an Orwellian image of a conveyor belt with human bombs placed on it running out of the House of Saud and reaching around the globe. Saudi-funded mosques and madrassas supplied ideological content, and wings of the Saudi ruling establishment stoked the fire of its infernal machine." Ibrahim raises the question of why the U.S. by and large "looks the other way" regarding the behavior of its so-called ally - and major source of oil. The answer, he opines, lies not just in the well known "Bush-Saud Family" factor - the Saudi royal family's links to the Bush family and associates - but in the "corrupting process" that reaches into "every segment of the American ruling establishment over three decades." He asserts that many in Washington's diplomatic and journalistic establishment have benefited from Saudi largesse intended to buy influence in the U.S. Ibrahim concludes: "The result is that while Washington hears the music, it is not listening to the words." ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 12:54:08 -0600 From: Joe Gingrich Subject: self reviewed, book review of "Outrage" NewsMax.com 4152 West Blue Heron Blvd, Ste 1114 Riviera Beach, FL, 33404 USA Dick Morris Exposes 'Legal' Immigration Scam Half of all illegal immigrants came into this country legally - and we have no way of knowing they're still here! Congressmen are putting their wives on their campaign payrolls - so that campaign contributions are really personal bribes! The ACLU won't allow its own directors free speech. Liberals want to strip us of the tools to stop terrorism. The UN is a cover for massive corruption - and eighty countries, who pay 12 percent of the budget, are blocking reform. Drug companies pay off doctors to write scripts - whether we need them or not. Teachers unions block the firing of bad teachers - and battle against higher education standards! Katrina victims are being stiffed by their insurance companies! Special interests cost our consumers $45 billion - through trade quotas that save only a handful of jobs! Never heard of these abuses? You won't in the mainstream media. That's why Dick Morris and Eileen McGann wrote "Outrage." Their proposals: a.. Ban immigration from terrorist countries b.. Ban Congress putting spouses on their payroll c.. Ban lobbyists who are related to senators or congressmen d.. Ban nicotine additives to cigarettes e.. Ban trade quotas that drive up prices and save few jobs f.. Ban drug company bribes to doctors g.. Ban teachers unions' work rules that stop education reform h.. Ban insurance companies from backing out on Katrina coverage In "Outrage," you'll get the facts - and learn what we can do about them. You won't read about these outrages anyplace else; too many people are working hard to cover them up. Get them here instead - and learn how to fight the special interests of the left and right. Dick Morris served as Bill Clinton's political consultant for twenty years. A Fox News political analyst, he is the author of five New York Times bestsellers, including Rewriting History and Condi vs. Hillary. Eileen McGann, an attorney and consultant, is CEO of Vote.com and Legalvote.com. She works with Dick on campaigns around the world, specializing in using the Internet to win elections. 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