Cdn-Firearms Digest Tuesday, March 11 2008 Volume 11 : Number 270 In this issue: YOUNG TEENS BEHIND NEW CRIME WAVE; Re: YOUNG TEENS BEHIND NEW CRIME WAVE; Longmont, Colorado: Shots fired, boy scares off burglar i AM CANADIAN Use of left lanes Re: Ontario Hand Gun Ban? Re: Use of left lanes O.F.A.H. applauds proposed amendments to firearms regulations USA - NATIONAL RESEARCH COUNCIL: BALLISTIC IMAGING Black bear hunt tactics decried as 'cruel'; Animal rights Cars increasingly used as weapons, police say ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, March 10, 2008 12:55 pm From: "Breitkreuz, Garry - Assistant 2" Subject: YOUNG TEENS BEHIND NEW CRIME WAVE; PUBLICATION: National Post DATE: 2008.03.08 EDITION: National SECTION: News PAGE: A1 BYLINE: Chris Wattie SOURCE: National Post WORD COUNT: 907 - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- YOUNG TEENS BEHIND NEW CRIME WAVE; 47% of robberies committed by those aged 12 to 17 - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- A 14-year-old carjacker charged with robbing an elderly woman at gunpoint and driving over her hands is part of a new wave of violent crime committed by increasingly younger offenders, Toronto police say. "Fourteen-year-olds doing robberies isn't remarkable for us: It shouldn't be that way, but it is," said Detective Dominic Sinopoli of the major crime squad in Etobicoke. The youth -- one of a number of Toronto children in their early teens charged in violent crimes this week -- had been on bail for an earlier armed robbery and has a long criminal history for someone so young. Det. Sinopoli said that in some city neighbourhoods, criminals as young as 12 -- the youngest age at which someone can be charged under the Youth Criminal Justice Act -- are not uncommon. ''A lot of our work -- the bulk of our work, I would say -- involves young offenders, very young offenders," he told the National Post yesterday. "I know a lot of people are surprised by the age of this kid, and rightfully so. But we weren't," Det. Sinopoli said. According to police crime statistics, young offenders are a large and steadily growing segment of the criminal population, accounting for nearly half of all robbery arrests and one in five break-ins. In 2006, the last year for which figures are available, 47% of robberies were committed by criminals aged 12 to 17, up slightly from the previous year but capping a steady rise in robberies by young offenders over the past five years. That same age group accounted for 19.4% of arrests for breaking and entering, up from 17.8% in 2005. Constable Matthew Clarke, who investigates robberies in Scarborough, has seen the same thing in his end of the city. "We have been seeing more and more robberies where pretty young kids are involved in planning and carrying out the robberies," he said. Det. Sinopoli said many of the youngest offenders are from unstable homes or have absentee or neglectful parents. But even when their parents are involved, he said in many cases they blame police for arresting their sons or daughters. "When I was 14, if I had been involved with the police, my dad would've really given it to me," he said. "Today, we're being challenged by the parents of a lot of these kids. They call us up and give us a hard time when we've arrested their kids." The 14-year-old carjacker was charged on Tuesday with armed robbery of the 70-year-old victim and four counts of violating bail conditions on his earlier arrest. On Wednesday, a group of about 10 youths, all aged approximately 15, went on a two-hour crime spree on the city's subway lines, robbing people in stairwells and on station platforms, punching and elbowing commuters to take their jewellery, cash and subway passes during the busy rush hour. Four teenagers were eventually arrested, and police are still looking for six or more of their accomplices. And on Thursday, five youths aged 15 to 17 were arrested after a much larger gang of teens swarmed three others in the Markham Road and Greencedar Court area and attacked them with pipes, baseball bats and broken bottles. The five youths are charged with aggravated assault and assault with a weapon. Const. Clarke said pizza delivery and taxi drivers appear to be the most popular targets of young robbers, although they usually do not make off with much cash. "Some of them, when we catch them, turn out to be using imitation firearms, pellet guns and that sort of thing," he said. "Of course that doesn't make much difference to the victims, who've had these very realistic-looking weapons pointed at them." He said one reason for the junior crime wave may be young offenders trying to impress street gang members in order to join the gang, but in many cases it is as simple as children admiring "gangsters" they see in rap videos. "They think it's cool," Const. Clarke said. "Whether it's from video games, or television or rap videos, I don't know. "But why else would a kid go to school with an imitation handgun stuck in his waistband?" cwattie@nationalpost.com - --- YOUTH CRIME Thursday, March 6 A group of more than 30 teenagers swarms a smaller group of other teens in the Markham Road/Greencedar Court area, punching them and hitting them with pipes, bats and broken bottles. Five young offenders are arrested: a 15-year-old boy; three 16-year-old boys; and a 17-year-old boy. Wednesday, March 5 A group of about 10 youths, approximately 15 years old, travels up and down the Bloor and the Yonge subway lines, robbing and assaulting commuters in the subway stations' stairwells and platforms between 4 p.m. and 6 p.m., when four are finally arrested at Christie Station. Saturday, March 1 A pair of youths rob a 70-year-old woman at gunpoint at the Woodbine Mall, at Highway 27 and Rexdale Boulevard, stealing her car and pushing her to the ground and running over her hands as they drive away. Three days later, police arrest a 14-year-old boy and charge him with armed robbery and violating bail conditions on an earlier charge. The second teenager is still being sought. Tuesday, Feb. 26 A 16-year-old boy walks into a bank branch on Lawrence Avenue East, tells bank employees he has a gun and demands cash.When he leaves the bank with the money, he is tackled by a police officer and charged with robbery and forcible confinement. Thursday, Feb. 21 A boy, 15, and a 15-year-old girl turn themselves in to police over the theft of a dog, stolen outside a restaurant on Yonge Street and held until the owner offered a reward. National Post ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:38:14 -0400 From: "mred" Subject: Re: YOUNG TEENS BEHIND NEW CRIME WAVE; - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Breitkreuz, Garry - Assistant 2" To: "Breitkreuz, Garry - Assistant 1" Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 8:55 AM Subject: YOUNG TEENS BEHIND NEW CRIME WAVE; > PUBLICATION: National Post > DATE: 2008.03.08 > EDITION: National > SECTION: News > PAGE: A1 > BYLINE: Chris Wattie > SOURCE: National Post > WORD COUNT: 907 > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > YOUNG TEENS BEHIND NEW CRIME WAVE; 47% of robberies committed by those > aged 12 to 17 > > > "When I was 14, if I had been involved with the police, my dad would've > really given it to me," he said. "Today, we're being challenged by the > parents of a lot of these kids. They call us up and give us a hard time > when we've arrested their kids." > I CAN RELATE TO that~!When I was kid (many years ago) I stayed out of trouble because of my dad (and a good thing too) At that time the police were our friends on the street,my dad was a gentle man ,but watch out if I got out of shape and got into trouble. Today, there's no one you can trust on the street, all because of the Liberal do-gooder law that wont let you punish your child for misdeeds. Spank your child for a gross violation of the rules we all must live by, and YOU get charged with assault, as happened several years ago to an American tourist in London , Ontario. (He was reported by a nanny state suck-up) ed/on ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 20:40:16 -0600 From: Joe Gingrich Subject: Longmont, Colorado: Shots fired, boy scares off burglar http://www.timescall.com/news_story.asp?ID=7045 Publish Date: 3/6/2008 Shots fired, boy scares off burglar By Scott Rochat The Daily Times-Call LONGMONT - A boy fired a gun and chased away a burglar who tried to break into a house north of the city this afternoon, deputies said. Ryan Dohoney was home alone when he heard a burglar inside the house, 11909 Vermillion Road, at about 12:30 p.m., Boulder County Sheriff's deputies said. Dohoney fired a shot to scare the burglar off. The burglar fired one shot, ran out the door and ran from the property, deputies said. The burglar was dressed in black and wore a mask, deputies said. Deputies did not say who fired the first shot, though both were fired inside the house. No one was injured. Deputies rushed to the scene after dispatchers received calls about shots being fired. Investigators did not locate the suspect immediately. The boy and his family were not available for comment as of 3 p.m. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 20:48:36 -0500 From: Lee Jasper Subject: i AM CANADIAN Here's one for AOBs and GOM. The Newest Canadian Rant My name is Harley and I AM CANADIAN ..or to be more correct, maybe I should say Euro-Canadian. I am a minority in Vancouver, Toronto and almost every casino in this country. I was born in 1958, yet I am (obviously) responsible for some Natives being 'screwed' out of 'their' land back in the 1700's. Not only must I support them with 'treaty' money I must make sure they NEVER pay any taxes in this country. I pay import tax anywhere in CANADA on cars made right here in the province of Ontario. I am allowed to skydive and smoke, but not allowed to drive without a seat belt. ALL the money I make until mid July goes to pay various municipal, provincial and federal taxes. Although I am sometimes forced to live on Kraft dinner and don't have a pot to piss in, I sleep well knowing that my taxes helped purchase a nice seven figure home in Vancouver for some unskilled refugee. Although they are unpatriotic and constantly threatening to separate, Quebec still provides most my nation's Prime Ministers. About 95% of my nation's international conflicts are over fish, or animals that eat fish! I'm supposed to call black people African-Canadians, although I'm sure none of them have ever been to Africa, or east of Halifax for that matter. I believe that paying a 200% tax on alcohol must be fair, because that's how much tax I pay on gasoline! Even if I have no idea what happened to that old rifle my grandfather gave me when I was 14, I am considered a criminal if I don't register it. I believe spending $15 billion to promote the French language in the rest of Canada is fair, while Quebec spends several million trying to eliminate all signs in English in the Province of Quebec. I believe that paying $30 million for a painting of 3 red and blue stripes ('The Voice of Fire' in the National Art Gallery) was a very canny purchase, even though 99% of the people in this country didn't want it or will ever see it. When I look at my pay stub and realize that only I take home a third of what I make, I say 'Oh well, at least we have better health care than the Americans,' even though I know delays in the waiting rooms could kill me first! I must bail out farmers when their crops are too wet or too dry because (apparently) I control the rain. My national anthem has versions in both official languages and after so many changes I don't know the words in either one of them. Canada has the largest civil service per capita in North America, with a tiny military, but we can brag that Quebec is the No. 1 destination of fleeing terrorists. [much like France is in Europe]. I am not an angry white male. I am an angry taxpayer whose elected representatives have made sure I am usually broke. My name is Harley, and I AM CANADIAN. And that is probably why I drink so much Canadian beer. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 23:07:12 -0500 From: Lee Jasper Subject: Use of left lanes Mred said: > Also they are now passing a law that if a police officer sees you in the > passing lane on a limited access highway ? you will be getting a $450.00 > fine . > > This is a good idea, in some cases ,where retards and Darwin rejects sit in > the passing lane at the speed limit for mile after mile or k after k. > > After all ? it IS a passing lane not a driving/cruising lane. Would certainly appreciate any more info on this Ed. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 23:18:54 -0500 From: 10x <10x@telus.net> Subject: Re: Ontario Hand Gun Ban? At 07:08 PM 3/9/2008 -0700, you wrote: > >Not that I wish this to happen, but if Ontario is stupid enough to enact >such a ban, I think the shit storm raised would soon put an end to it. >Compensation for gun owners? "Grandfathering" of existing handguns? >Storage of Ontarians guns in other provinces? > >Of course we know that nothing would change re: criminal use of illegal >guns. The resulting crime wave would parallel what happened in other >jurisdictions where similar bans proved the fallacy of such knee jerk >reactions. The rest of the country would be following such an action with >bated breath. > >I think I'd be among those willing to go to jail over the implementation >of such a ban in BC. The line has to be drawn somewhere, and I think for >me, that would be it. I'm retired, debt free and have no dependent >children, so I'm the ideal candidate. > >I would fully understand the unwillingness for others with jobs, mortgages >and dependent children to be my cell mates. > >Handguns today, and what tomorrow? Half the handguns banned in 1995, the other half coming up. Just as soon as the Liberals get elected. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 09:01:25 -0400 From: "mred" Subject: Re: Use of left lanes - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lee Jasper" To: "' Can Firearms Digest'" Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 12:07 AM Subject: Use of left lanes > Mred said: > >> Also they are now passing a law that if a police officer sees you in the >> passing lane on a limited access highway ? you will be getting a $450.00 >> fine . >> >> This is a good idea, in some cases ,where retards and Darwin rejects sit >> in >> the passing lane at the speed limit for mile after mile or k after k. >> >> After all ? it IS a passing lane not a driving/cruising lane. > > Would certainly appreciate any more info on this Ed. > I got this from a swimming buddy.Last week.An ex -Ukrainian emigre. He says we in Ontario are going much MORE communist than Russia. I only have his word as I have never been to Russia. Thats about all I know at present.There may be more on the provincial website .Havent had a chance to look yet ed/on > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, March 11, 2008 7:42 am From: "Breitkreuz, Garry - Assistant 2" Subject: O.F.A.H. applauds proposed amendments to firearms regulations ONTARIO FEDERATION OF ANGLERS AND HUNTERS NEWS RELEASE - March 10, 2008 O.F.A.H. applauds proposed amendments to firearms regulations Renewal of Possession Only Licences (POLs) major step forward http://www.ofah.org/News/index.cfm?ID=3&A=GetDoc&DID=386 The Ontario Federation of Anglers and Hunters (O.F.A.H.), applauds proposed amendments to firearms regulations recently announced by the Harper government. The proposed regulatory changes include 1) Extension of the fee waiver associated with renewing or upgrading existing licences; 2) Renewal of the amnesty which protects non-restricted firearms owners from criminal prosecution while seeking to come into compliance by obtaining a licence and/or registration certificate; and most importantly, 3) Opportunity for firearms owners who hold a Possession Only Licence (POL) to renew these licences, even after they have expired. "The Conservative government has clearly listened to the firearms community," said Mike Reader, O.F.A.H. Executive Director. "Up to one hundred and eight thousand owners whose POLs may have expired were faced with having to upgrade their licences or lose their firearms. The large majority are seniors who have no interest in purchasing new firearms, but want to retain the firearms they have and comply with the law. Allowing them to renew expired POLs, many of which expired because of flaws in the system, is a huge step forward that will ensure compliance with the law and allow them to legally keep their firearms. The government should be congratulated for recognizing this need and acting to rectify a problem which benefits both lawful firearms owners and public safety." With the coming into effect of these proposed regulations, any firearms owner who previously held a POL and who remain in possession of registered or previously registered non-restricted or restricted firearms may apply for a new POL up to and including May 16, 2009, rather than having to upgrade to a Possession and Acquisition Licence (PAL). This is a significant change in policy since POLs were previously not renewable upon expiry. The proposed regulations are intended to come into effect on March 28, 2008. With over 83,000 members and 655 member clubs, the Ontario Federation of Anglers and Hunters is the leading fishing, hunting and conservation organization in Ontario and the voice of anglers and hunters. For more information visit www.ofah.org. - -30- Contact Greg Farrant O.F.A.H. Government Relations & Communications Manager (705) 748-6324 Cell: (705) 875-0274 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, March 11, 2008 7:52 am From: "Breitkreuz, Garry - Assistant 2" Subject: USA - NATIONAL RESEARCH COUNCIL: BALLISTIC IMAGING NATIONAL RESEARCH COUNCIL OF THE NATIONAL ACADAMIES BALLISTIC IMAGING by the Committee to Assess the Feasibility, Accuracy and Technical Capability of a National Ballistics Database http://books.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=12162&page=R1 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, March 11, 2008 8:09 am From: "Breitkreuz, Garry - Assistant 2" Subject: Black bear hunt tactics decried as 'cruel'; Animal rights PUBLICATION: The Hamilton Spectator DATE: 2008.03.11 EDITION: Final SECTION: Canada/World PAGE: A8 ILLUSTRATION: Photo: Canadian Press File Photo / Several illustrious Guards regiments wear bearskin hats in performing a host of ceremonial duties. ; BYLINE: Cahal Milmo SOURCE: The Independent, London WORD COUNT: 485 - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Black bear hunt tactics decried as 'cruel'; Animal rights campaigners crusade for an end to 'cruel and unnecessary' trade in skins - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- A large black bear and her cub emerge from the undergrowth, drawn to the scent of a rusty oil drum filled with a pungent bait of pizza, doughnuts and skinned animals. As the pair begin to tuck in, a shot rings out and the mother lets out a wounded roar and flees to what is almost certainly a painful and lingering death. This scene is from secret footage of what animal rights campaigners claimed yesterday is a "cruel and unnecessary" trade in skins from the North American black bear, a trade flourishing partly to enable the British army to satisfy 200 years of military tradition and crowds of tourists to London. People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) released the film of the "bait and shoot" tactics used by Canadian hunters at Westminster yesterday. The pelts are sold to fur auctioneers, whose clients include companies hired by the Ministry of Defence (Mod), to supply Britain's illustrious Guards regiments with bearskin hats for use in ceremonial duties such as the annual Trooping the Colour ceremony to mark the Queen's birthday. PETA, which is asking the Mod to use synthetic materials when it needs replacements for the hats, has figures showing $642,000 of taxpayers' money has been spent since 2002 at Canadian fur auctions to buy black bearskins to refurbish its stock of 2,500 hats at a cost of $1,300 per pelt. The army needs about 50 bearskins a year, anti-cruelty activists say. The welfare group used a news conference in the Houses of Parliament to release footage shot last October of how hunters in Ontario exploit the bears' liking for easy pickings. The method is banned in the European Union and many American states as well as British Columbia in Canada. A preference for adult mother bears with cubs, because then she has a particularly thick and lustrous hide, results in many young bear orphans. Research in Canada suggests 70 per cent of orphaned cubs die within 12 months due to disease, starvation and predators. Ann Widdecombe, the former Tory minister, who is among 200 MPs who signed an early day motion calling on the Mod to use synthetic materials, said: "Each year, tens of thousands of North American bears die in this practice. The bears are shot, sometimes several times, before they die. Such practices would not be tolerated here. We complain to Canada about the slaughter of seal pups and yet the Ministry of Defence is buying material that has been produced in this exceptionally cruel fashion." A Mod spokeswoman said: "Some alternatives to real fur are already in use by the Royal Artillery and others, and we are in discussions with PETA to identify improved fake fur. A lightweight synthetic alternative has not as yet emerged which keeps its appearance and shape in all weather conditions." There are about 600,000 North American black bears and 10 per cent are killed every year. The species is not endangered. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, March 11, 2008 10:04 am From: "Breitkreuz, Garry - Assistant 2" Subject: Cars increasingly used as weapons, police say PUBLICATION: GLOBE AND MAIL DATE: 2008.03.11 PAGE: A9 BYLINE: JOE FRIESEN SECTION: National News EDITION: National DATELINE: Winnipeg MB WORDS: 430 - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- LAW ENFORCEMENT: MANITOBA Cars increasingly used as weapons, police say - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Winnipeg police fired at a moving vehicle for the second time in recent weeks - and the fourth time in four months - during a chase Sunday in the city's north end. Police had laid a spike belt across the road in an effort to puncture the vehicle's tires, but the driver swerved toward a police officer standing nearby, a police spokeswoman said yesterday. The officer, who narrowly avoided being hit, fired at the car, but the bullet struck the side of the vehicle and failed to injure any of its four occupants. Constable Jacqueline Chaput said the officer had no choice but to try to stop the threat. "That's what we're trained to do when we use our firearms is stop the threat," Constable Chaput said. "If we need to fire at the driver, then absolutely that's what we need to do to stop the threat." Police would not say why they were trying to stop the vehicle, but confirmed that it was not stolen. Gary Noris Jesmer, 34, has been charged with driving without a licence, dangerous driving and fleeing from a police officer. The passengers were apprehended but none has been charged. Two weeks ago, police tried to stop what they believed was a stolen vehicle in the parking lot of Polo Park shopping mall when the driver allegedly swerved at an officer who opened fire in response. Two similar shooting incidents occurred on Nov. 28 last year, when bank robbery suspects drove a van at police and were fired on; later that day, a stolen truck rammed a police cruiser and an officer fired two shots at the vehicle. No one was hit in any of the four shootings. Police say it's becoming more common for vehicles to be used as weapons on the city's streets. Constable Chaput said it may be something that has to be specifically addressed in police training. "We may need to change certain tactics on certain things depending how many times these types of occurrences happen," Constable Chaput said. She said at this stage it's difficult to say what the officer involved in Sunday's shooting was trying to hit when he fired at the vehicle - whether it was a tire, the engine block or the driver - but said officers would never do anything that could endanger innocent bystanders. "These things happen so quickly. If they're going to discharge their firearm, they're going to discharge it, point it and fire it wherever they can," Constable Chaput said. 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