Cdn-Firearms Digest        Friday, May 23 2008        Volume 11 : Number 452



In this issue:
       Fox wins TV season on strong 'Idol' finish
       Re: Texas Police Chief Accused of Sex With Underage Girl
       Texas Police Chief Accused of Sex With Underage Girl
       Re: Environmental Contaminants
       logical fallacies
       IPSC Canadian Nationals
       Rising Gas Prices Forcing Some Cops Out of Cars, Onto Feet
       U.S.: Ohio:- ,"Where do they find these Hitlerian morons."
       Re: Cdn-Firearms Digest V11 #438
       Re: BRITAIN: Time to confront knife crime, says judge
       logical fallacies
       "A COP SHOULD NOT COP OUT"
       IPSC Canadian Nationals
       Re: BRITAIN: Time to confront knife crime, says judge
       Georgia Cop Gets 4.5 Years for Lying After Raid That Killed.....

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Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 11:28:19 -0600
From: Joe Gingrich <whitefox@sasktel.net>
Subject: Fox wins TV season on strong 'Idol' finish

Fox wins TV season on strong 'Idol' finish

May 23 07:30 AM US/Eastern
By DAVID BAUDER
AP Television Writer

NEW YORK (AP) - With a strong finishing kick from "American Idol," Fox
captured the distinction of America's most popular television network for
the first time since it began operation in 1987.

Fox took that title from CBS. It was the only major broadcast network with
more prime-time viewers than the previous season, a distinction helped by
its telecast of the Super Bowl. Fox didn't show television's biggest event
during the 2006-7 season.

<snip>

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Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 13:24:56 -0400
From: "mred" <mred@295.ca>
Subject: Re: Texas Police Chief Accused of Sex With Underage Girl

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe Gingrich" <whitefox@sasktel.net>
To: "Canadian Firearms Digest" <cdn-firearms@scorpion.bogend.ca>
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 12:45 PM
Subject: Texas Police Chief Accused of Sex With Underage Girl


> http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,357381,00.html
>
> Texas Police Chief Accused of Sex With Underage Girl
>
> Thursday, May 22, 2008
>
> RIO GRANDE CITY, Texas -  A Starr County grand jury has indicted the
> police chief of the small South Texas town of La Grulla on a charge of
> soliciting sex from a minor.
>
> According to the indictment released Thursday, the grand jury believes
> Alfredo Hernandez tried to talk a girl younger than 17 years of age into
> having sex with him last month.
>
> Hernandez was booked into the Starr County Jail on Thursday and released
> on $5,000 bond.
>
> District attorney's investigator Carlos Delgado said the girl had
> complained about the incident and it was forwarded to law enforcement.
>
> Hernandez was unavailable at the La Grulla police department, which
> referred calls to Mayor Oscar Gonzalez. The mayor did not immediately
> return a call for comment.
>
> personaly ? I have great difficulty in believing this until the facts
> come out in court...

2 reasons for my way of thinking .

1......Several years ago 3 young school girls in Toronto I believe accused
their home room teacher of unwanted sexual advances.

The up shot was ? In court it was discovered that they made the false
accusations BECAUSE  the teacher had failed them in one of their subjects,
or perhaps it was the whole semester ? I cant remember exactly.

Of course the teachers reputation was ruined ,even though he was aquitted
of any wrong doing.

2........Nobody EVER believes the male of being innocent of these type of
accusations , its always the females` word is law.

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Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 10:45:39 -0600
From: Joe Gingrich <whitefox@sasktel.net>
Subject: Texas Police Chief Accused of Sex With Underage Girl

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,357381,00.html

Texas Police Chief Accused of Sex With Underage Girl

Thursday, May 22, 2008

RIO GRANDE CITY, Texas -  A Starr County grand jury has indicted the
police chief of the small South Texas town of La Grulla on a charge of
soliciting sex from a minor.

According to the indictment released Thursday, the grand jury believes
Alfredo Hernandez tried to talk a girl younger than 17 years of age into
having sex with him last month.

Hernandez was booked into the Starr County Jail on Thursday and released
on $5,000 bond.

District attorney's investigator Carlos Delgado said the girl had
complained about the incident and it was forwarded to law enforcement.

Hernandez was unavailable at the La Grulla police department, which
referred calls to Mayor Oscar Gonzalez. The mayor did not immediately
return a call for comment.

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Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 12:19:53 -0400
From: "mred" <mred@295.ca>
Subject: Re: Environmental Contaminants

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Todd Birch" <birch_as_in_tree@telus.net>
To: <cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca>
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 11:20 AM
Subject: Environmental Contaminants


> Look to hear a new term to describe the reclamation of potential
> environmental contaminants - "urban ore".
>
> This term is being applied to the materials recovered from the recycling
> of
> computers, cell phones, TVs, etc. Apparently, there are any number of
> metals
> (including gold and platinum) that are recoverable and the plastics are
> used
> in the smelting process.
>
> The lead shooters fling about doesn't make the scale when it comes to
> environmental impact compared to what leeches out of land fills. Southern
> Ontario will soon be drinking a cocktail of chemicals and compounds as the
> water table becomes saturated.
>
> This might explain the policies of some politicians and their governments.
>
> TB
>
> Now you`re starting to scare me~! I Use artesian well water which is
> readily available on Sulphur springs road in Ancaster(For those of you who
> are familiar with the Hamilton, Ontario area)

The city of Hamilton tests the water monthly for contaminants..and other
elements...

Which is posted on the well site ...

However minute the elements are ? (they are ALL naturally occurring)the
water STILL tastes MUCH better than the City of Hamilton water which is full
of Love Canal chemicals and chlorine, AND RECOMBINATED SEWAGE WATER,which is
a serious poison.

It tastes like fresh spring water should taste, and not recycled chemical
sewage like the Hamilton water.

There is no chlorine in it, and I have been drinking this water for many
years and have yet to suffer any intestinal or other complaints from it.

The water runs constantly day and night, non stop, I dont know the exact
flow in gallons but it takes about 30 seconds to fill a US gallon jug.

No I wont stop drinking this water; they tell me it takes 10,000 years for
surface water to percolate down to the water table of an artesian well, so
the water I`m drinking today is conceivably that old.

Since Ancaster is a maze of hills and valleys of alluvial gravel and sand
deposited by the last glacial ice-age I have more confidence in drinking
this water than the chemical soup provided by the City.

I have been in the Conservation area which I live next to, and have found
springs with water running constantly day and night in the hottest driest
summers.

AND IT TASTES GREAT TOO~!!!!!!!

ed/on

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Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 23:07:15 -0300
From: "M.J. Ackermann, MD" <mikeack@ns.sympatico.ca>
Subject: logical fallacies

Reading this site has helped me clarify in my mind the techniques
employed by the anti gun crowd and many other social engineers.

http://www.logicalfallacies.info/index.html

Just one example is how the Global Warming crowd, by trumpeting their
so-called consensus of experts, is committing the Bandwagon Fallacy.

- -- 
M.J. Ackermann, MD (Mike)
Rural Family Physician,
Box 13, 120 Cameron Rd.
Sherbrooke, NS
Canada B0J 3C0
902-522-2172

mikeack@ns.sympatico.ca

"Hope for the best, but be prepared for the worst".

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Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 22:08:18 -0600
From: "Walter Hornby" <walter.hornby@gmail.com>
Subject: IPSC Canadian Nationals

The 2008 Canadian IPSC Nationals will be held in Lethbridge, Alberta July 30
to August 3, 2008.  Match Sponsor is Double Tap Sports and we have a slew of
Divisional and Stage Sponsors.  So far we have two guns for the prize table
and with more to come.  For more information visit our website at
http://www.chinookcountryshooters.ca/2008Nationals/



DVC

Walter Hornby




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Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 10:42:24 -0600
From: Joe Gingrich <whitefox@sasktel.net>
Subject: Rising Gas Prices Forcing Some Cops Out of Cars, Onto Feet

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,357407,00.html

Rising Gas Prices Forcing Some Cops Out of Cars, Onto Feet

Friday, May 23, 2008

NEWBERRY, S.C. -  With gasoline climbing toward $4 a gallon, police
officers around the country are losing the right to take their patrol cars
home and are being forced to double up in cruisers and walk the beat more.

<snip>

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Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 10:45:35 -0600
From: Joe Gingrich <whitefox@sasktel.net>
Subject: U.S.: Ohio:- ,"Where do they find these Hitlerian morons."

Canton: New law threatens jail time for not mowing the lawn

http://www.wkyc.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=90053&catid=3

CANTON -- The city of Canton is being overwhelmed by a literally growing
problem -- property owners who won't use a lawnmower.

The city now cuts grass and weeds on more than 2,000 thousand
privately-owned lots at a cost of a quarter million dollars a year.

Foreclosures are a big part of the problem. But most of the lots are owned
by Canton residents.

Health Department officials are worried about creating hiding places for
rats and breeding grounds for ticks.

Council is expected to pass a law Monday that could carry jail time for a
second offense. Repeat offenders could face a $250 fine and 30 days in jail.

City leaders promise this law won't be used on senior or sickly property
owners.

"This law is for that person that's healthy, alive and irresponsible," said
Environmental Health Director Mark Adams.

Councilman Greg Hawk said, "We don't want to be in the lawnmowing
businesses. We're looking for the repeat offender we're providing cheap lawn
maintenance for."

When a newspaper story about this got posted on the Drudge report website,
it brought dozens of outraged e-mails from around the country calling it
government overkill.

"Sounds like Russia to me," said one.

Another said ,"Where do they find these Hitlerian morons."

But most Canton residents we asked said jail time was not too stiff a
penalty for uncooperative property owners.

Jack Harris said, "I have no complaint with that. This brings down property
values."

Fletcher Pierce said, "Most people try to keep their property up. Some
people don't care. Something should be done. It's a blight on the
neighborhood."

Councilman Hawk claims publicity about the law has already prompted property
owners to bring out the mowers.

Resident Robert Posey repairs lawnmowers and hopes to make money off the
lawn law. A big sign in his front yard says, "Will Cut Grass."



© 2008 WKYC-TV

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Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 17:31:47 -0400
From: br8boss@xcelco.on.ca
Subject: Re: Cdn-Firearms Digest V11 #438

> Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 13:25:10 -0400
> From: "D R Goodbrand" <drg@linetap.com>
> Subject: Re: Oka/Ipperwash and the Emergencies Act
>
> Subject: Re: OKA??  IPPERWASH??
>
> - - --- D R Goodbrand <drg@linetap.com> wrote:
>
> >> 14 was when Robert Bourassa requisitioned the
> >> assistance of the Canadian
> >> Forces in "aid to the civil power" by invoking the
> >> Emergencies Act.
>
>
> Mark L Horstead  wrote:
> Fri, 16 May 2008 11:55:40 -0700 (PDT)
> Digest V11 #434
>
> > "Provinces may _request_, not "requisition'."
>
> Mark
>
> and later ..........
>
> Hugh Evers wrote: Thu, 15 May 2008 19:36:15 -0400 Digest V11 #437
>
> >"OKA was a Federal problem because Quebec said so... Ipperwash was a
> >Provincial problem because the Feds said so...  "
I will try and keep this simple and short..
This is to important to let pass..
    The Natives, Aboriginals,Indians, are Federal jurisdiction...
ie (The indian act)..
No Province has power over this act except Quebec!
But this is not really a suprise, because Quebec in this
situation has power over Ottawa. or as Ed Bratt has stated,
Oddawa..
For example..
Quebec controls it's own immigration..
Quebec controls it's natural resources..
Quebec controls its own income tax..
Quebec controls it,s own gun registry..
The Natives in Ipperwash were occupying a federal army camp,
And claiming ownership. It was not only a fedaral jurisdiction
but also their, the Feds problem..Legally and morally..
That word understanding is strange, please look up it,s meaning..
Hugh Evers..  You Own your Property or You are the Property..

> >Hugh Evers
>
> - -- --
>
> It is my understanding that when a Province evokes the Emergencies Act the
> Feds have little choice but to respond as it is the Provinces right to
> employ the military when required to maintain law and order and it's
also my
> understanding that Ontario did NOT, at any time, call for Federal
> intervention at Ipperwash as Bourassa did at Oka.
>
> It must also be noted that Ontario went on record right at the start of the
> problems in Caledonia as telling the Natives that they would NOT call for
> Federal Intervention.
>
> D.R. Goodbrand
>
> I
>

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Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 11:22:00 -0600
From: Med Crotteau <mywaymed@shaw.ca>
Subject: Re: BRITAIN: Time to confront knife crime, says judge

Yeah, but don't forget, even criminals have rights!

Vote Lieberal Increase Crime.

MED

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "mred" <mred@295.ca>
To: <cdn-firearms@scorpion.bogend.ca>
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 10:05 AM
Subject: Re: BRITAIN: Time to confront knife crime, says judge
>
>> PUBLICATION:  The Daily Telegraph
>> DATE:  2008.05.22
>> SECTION:  News
>> PAGE:  010
>> BYLINE:  Richard Alleyne
>> WORD COUNT:  280
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Time to confront knife crime, says judge
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>
> CONTROL CONTROL CONTROL CONTROL
>
> See how this so-called judge even wants to eliminate self-defense ?
>
> I carry a pocket knife everywhere I go and I have 7" filleting knife in my
> car for when I go fishing.
>
> Pretty soon we`ll ALL be better off being criminals .
> ed/on

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Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 20:21:04 -0600 (CST)
From: owner-cdn-firearms@scorpion.bogend.ca (Majordomo) 
Subject: logical fallacies

Reading this site has helped me clarify in my mind the techniques
employed by the anti gun crowd and many other social engineers.

http://www.logicalfallacies.info/index.html

Just one example is how the Global Warming crowd, by trumpeting their
so-called consensus of experts, is committing the Bandwagon Fallacy.

- -- 
M.J. Ackermann, MD (Mike)
Rural Family Physician,
Box 13, 120 Cameron Rd.
Sherbrooke, NS
Canada B0J 3C0
902-522-2172

mikeack@ns.sympatico.ca

"Hope for the best, but be prepared for the worst".

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Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 11:02:47 -0600
From: Joe Gingrich <whitefox@sasktel.net>
Subject: "A COP SHOULD NOT COP OUT"

May 22nd 2008

JPFO ALERT: "A COP SHOULD NOT COP OUT"


In his latest article for Jews for the Preservation of Firearms
Ownership, "Setting a 'LEO' Straight",
http://www.jpfo.org/smith/smith-leo-straight.htm
- -award-winning novelist and columnist L. Neil Smith takes on a
retired "law enforcementofficer" who mistakenly believes that
he is a friend of the Second Amendment, but wrote to the
Liberty Crew at JPFO complaining that a previous column by
Neil ("With Friends Like The NRA ... "
http://www.jpfo.org/smith/smith-friends-like-nra.htm ) is "too
radical".

   Stopping just short of quoting Barry Goldwater: "Extremism in the
defense of liberty is no vice; moderation in the pursuit of justice is
no virtue," Neil counters each of the erstwhile policeman's fallacious
contentions, and tries to teaches him a little Second Amendment -- and
Nuremberg Tribunal -- history along the way.

   This kind of effort is important. It will be your own friendly
neighborhood cops who will come to collect your guns if the government
ever decides to attempt confiscation. Local police need to be educated
about the Bill of Rights and their absolute obligation to uphold and
defend it, even -- or especially -- if the orders come down from their
immediate "superiors", to whom they must acquire the courage to just
say "No!"

Only at www.JPFO.org.


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Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 22:08:18 -0600
From: "Walter Hornby" <walter.hornby@gmail.com>
Subject: IPSC Canadian Nationals

The 2008 Canadian IPSC Nationals will be held in Lethbridge, Alberta July 30
to August 3, 2008.  Match Sponsor is Double Tap Sports and we have a slew of
Divisional and Stage Sponsors.  So far we have two guns for the prize table
and with more to come.  For more information visit our website at
http://www.chinookcountryshooters.ca/2008Nationals/



DVC

Walter Hornby

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Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 12:05:12 -0400
From: "mred" <mred@295.ca>
Subject: Re: BRITAIN: Time to confront knife crime, says judge

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Breitkreuz, Garry - Assistant 2" <BreitG7@parl.gc.ca>
To: "Breitkreuz, Garry - Assistant 1" <BreitG0@parl.gc.ca>
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 5:35 AM
Subject: BRITAIN: Time to confront knife crime, says judge


> PUBLICATION:  The Daily Telegraph
> DATE:  2008.05.22
> SECTION:  News
> PAGE:  010
> BYLINE:  Richard Alleyne
> WORD COUNT:  280
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Time to confront knife crime, says judge
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>

CONTROL CONTROL CONTROL CONTROL

See how this so-called judge even wants to eliminate self-defense ?

I carry a pocket knife everywhere I go and I have 7" filleting knife in my
car for when I go fishing.

Pretty soon we`ll ALL be better off being criminals .
ed/on

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Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 11:33:11 -0600
From: Joe Gingrich <whitefox@sasktel.net>
Subject: Georgia Cop Gets 4.5 Years for Lying After Raid That Killed.....

http://iphone.foxnews.com/story/0/357241-Cop-Gets-45-Years-for-Lying-After-Raid-That-Killed-Woman.html

Georgia Cop Gets 4 1/2 Years for Lying After Raid That Killed Elderly Woman

Thursday, May 22, 2008

ATLANTA - An Atlanta police officer was sentenced Thursday to 4 1/2 years
in prison for lying to investigators about a botched drug raid that ended
in the shooting death of a 92-year-old woman.

Arthur Tesler, 42, was the only officer to face trial in the raid, which
led to an outcry from civil rights activists and to a shake-up of the
police department. Tesler also was sentenced to serve six months of
probation and 450 hours of community service.

Kathryn Johnston died in a hail of police bullets after narcotics officers
burst into her northwest Atlanta home the night of Nov. 21, 2006, using a
special no-knock warrant to search for drugs.

Testimony showed that Tesler was in Johnston's back yard when other
officers went in through the front door. Johnston fired a single shot at
the intruders, and officers returned a volley of 39, striking her five or
six times.

Police originally said they had gone to the woman's house after an
informant bought drugs there. After searching the home and finding no
drugs, the officers tried to cover up the mistake, planting three baggies
of marijuana, prosecutors said.

Tesler was convicted of making false statements, but was acquitted of two
more serious charges, violating his oath of office and of false
imprisonment under color of legal process.

Tesler lied to support his partners' claims that they had valid
information for a search warrant, but he later admitted the truth to the
FBI, said his lawyer, William J. McKenney.

McKenney asked Johnson for the minimum one-year prison sentence, and
called relatives and one of Tesler's neighbors to vouch for his character
and ask the judge to allow him to return soon to his wife and four
children, ages 10 months to 13 years.

The shackled Tesler blinked back tears as his wife, Kelli, expressed their
remorse for the tragedy and described her husband as a good man and "a dad
who has to regularly beat up monsters in the closet before bedtime."

The prosecutor, Kellie S. Hill, asked the judge to sentence Tesler to the
maximum of five years in prison "to do what is just for Ms. Johnston."

Hill said Tesler could have told the truth at any time.

"For those monsters that he can't fight for his children, he can blame
himself," she said.

Two others officers have pleaded guilty to state manslaughter and federal
civil rights charges. They have been helping investigators in other cases
unrelated to Johnston's death and have not yet been sentenced.

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