Cdn-Firearms Digest Monday, September 8 2008 Volume 12 : Number 095 In this issue: Re: Police search for man, 21, with stolen gun - Toronto Star Re: CPC Actions One thing Copy of letter to Ottawa Citizen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2008 04:27:28 -0700 From: R. LaCasse Subject: Re: Police search for man, 21, with stolen gun - Toronto Star |>---------------------------------------------------------------------- |> |>Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 14:46:38 -0700 (PDT) |>From: Bruce Mills |>Subject: Police search for man, 21, with stolen gun - Toronto Star |> |>http://www.thestar.com/News/GTA/article/492232 |> |>Police search for man, 21, with stolen gun |> |>According to Toronto police, 30 per cent of the firearms they seize may |>have been stolen from their legitimate owners. The remaining 70 per cent |>have been smuggled from the U.S. |> Sure, and might they include some 50% of that 30% as being their own guns as well......of course not, it's bad propaganda for them, so they omit it..for a while! |>Last year former Ontario Attorney General Michael Bryant and Toronto Mayor |>David Miller called for a full handgun ban. However, the federal |>government has said a full ban is not needed. |> How is this Miller, going to accomplish that act without a million police....is he going to pay for it.....get real, he's a leech, and should be reminded of that fact.... Millers waste of taxpayers money has a left millions homeless and medially unfit to survive, yet this guy want's to override the Laws of Common Man with registered guns and tons of paperwork, that he himself doesn't have to speak of.... The Guvmint sells tons of really heavy safes, trigger locks, all those so called safety things that go with their Section 28 Safe Storage Laws.... Now they want to play mind games with super restricted nonsense like the 12(6) rule I have one but I don't really need one....the shorter the barrel, the worse the gun is, and .25, .32 cal, are a poor excuse for a prohibition order. |>A stolen gun was involved in the 2005 Boxing Day shooting on Yonge St. |>that killed 15-year-old Jane Creba. |> That's simply because the owner of the stolen gun was not allowed to protect his property with other property........on the other hand, it may all be bull roar. They can scoop the gun persons address form nfo in any postings or activities, but I still bet in this country, they aren't interested in taking a knife to a gun fight. We have a generation that can't be scared by a racking slide because they don't know what that is......because, they never do that on TV anymore, and in this part of town, stuff like that still works, whereas in the US, you'd die giving away your position with that action, well so they claim. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 23:45:02 -0400 From: "Al Muir" Subject: Re: CPC Actions > Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 13:51:09 -0700 > From: "Fred Hoenisch" > Subject: Re: CPC Actions > > * Mike wrote: "ELECTION: "The federal Conservatives are not merely the > best friends we > have in Ottawa, they're the only friends we have in Ottawa!" > > That's exactly want they WANT you to think! We need to let them know that > THEY NEED OUR support/votes! > > Regarding their actions: > > *- - Abolition of the Firearms Centre as a stand alone agency and > transfer > of responsibility for the Firearms Centre back to the RCMP to focus gun > control efforts on the criminal use of firearms (2006). > > Wasn't the RCMP specifically who the Privacy Commissioner Bruce Philips > said > should NOT have our registration information? > Do you think it's okay for the police to have this information/track your > private property? No thanks. > God - there's reason enough for me not to give them my vote. > > *- - Introduction of the Tackling Violent Crime Act, which cracks down on > the use of restricted or prohibited firearms in criminal activity and > firearms crime that is gang related. (Received Royal Assent in February > 2008). (Mandatory prison terms for serious firearms offences increased > to 5 years for a first offence and 7 years for a second or subsequent > offence. The Government proposed more stringent prison terms for third > convictions, but the Opposition parties removed these provisions). > > *- - The Tackling Violent Crime Act also introduced a reverse onus on > bail > for those charged with serious firearms offences that are gang related. > > > It sounds like you want to promote the anti-gun agenda of putting all gun > owners in the same stereotype as criminals? > > *-- - Support for licensed law-abiding firearms owners in the face of > calls > for the banning of particular firearms that have been used by hunters, > collectors and sport shooters in Canada for decades. On numerous > occasions Public Safety Minister Stockwell Day has stated, > > "There will be NO new gun bans." > > They'd get my support by reversing those bans - not maintaining the status > quo. > > I won't support a party that maintains the status quo. > > Yours truly, > Fred 'None of the above' in Saanich. Well done Fred. We have heard that the Cons MIGHT do this and MIGHT do that, but lets face it, expectations of what they WILL do can be based in large part on their actions to date. As they say actions speak louder than words. Al ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 23:52:47 -0400 From: "Al Muir" Subject: One thing > Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 18:42:19 -0400 (EDT) > From: Rob Sciuk > Subject: 2 things ... > > Dear Digest ... > > Secondly, and primarily for those who regularly write letters etc. in > responding to "guns kill people" type rhetoric, we must turn the words > upon themselves, and advise the great unwashed that firearms are the best > means to *protect life* (and in particular handguns), as while they lack > much in the way of offensive capabilities, they are well (only) suited to > defensive use. The fact that police carry handguns, is clear testament to > exactly this point ... I have no problem with that type of letter but if I see one where somebody tells us how great the Cons are for us I will be sending a counter argument regardless of who the writer is. Al ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2008 08:55:31 -0300 From: "M.J. Ackermann, MD" Subject: Copy of letter to Ottawa Citizen Re: http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/story.html?id=3eef826e-0081-4801-9855-b5d2a2bdfd91 Mayor threatened over bilingual sign bylaw Police guard Hill during annual parade for Russell Fair David Gonczol, The Ottawa Citizen Published: Sunday, September 07, 2008 RUSSELL - Russell Township Mayor Ken Hill was under police guard during a parade here yesterday after "intimidating and threatening comments were made" about the unpopular mayor, who bitterly divided the French and English communities in the township earlier this year when he spearheaded a drive for bilingual business signs. I've always said that Canadian policies that try to force bilingualism in the name of promoting Canadian unity have the opposite effect of dividing us. Same goes for all the hundreds of special deals given in the courts and in the educational and business world based not on competence or merit, but rather on political pull. The Law should be blind to gender, orientation, religion, genetics, race, culture, economic standing, etc. In order to be blind, it must be very simple and basic - i.e. it should protect the basic inalienable human rights of Canadians. Instead it tries to assuage "white guilt" (whatever the hell that is) by making up for past injustices by piling more injustices upon certain politically incorrect cultural minorities. Someone please tell me how any good comes from lowering standards for certain groups. How does an aboriginal benefit from escaping custodial sentence for a violent attack that would have a white guy behind bars in a minute? All that says is that the Law sees the aboriginal as inferior and incapable of knowing right from wrong, like an animal or a very small child, and so he is held to a lower standard than what the Law sees as his his betters. How does a law that requires the hiring of minorities to satisfy some policy based on population demographics rather than ability help the Negroes or the women? All it says is that they are too inferior to compete on a level playing field and so special advantage must be given. Its like the Special Olympics: even when you win you are still handicapped. Those the Law purports to serve know this in their hearts. These policies only hurt the economy because they force businesses to operate inefficiently and with often less capable staff than they would choose were they free to operate sensibly. Don't get be wrong. I am vehemently opposed to prejudicial and bigoted practices that deny hiring or acceptance into public groups based on external characteristics. If someone can do the job then they should do the job, regardless of their color, gender, etc. But there is a world of difference between a law that states someone cannot be excluded based on race and one that states that they must be included based on race. The latter law is every bit as prejudicial and bigoted as the worst KKK member, except it is in a patronizing, nannying way. I see no reason why the State should dictate what language I choose to advertise my business in. If it makes economic sense to me to advertise in only one language, that is what I will do. If I can make more money advertising in two or more languages, then that is what I will do. Let the customer decide how they want it, by voting with their wallets. The same for product labels and anything else where the State is impairing freedoms without a greater payoff in terms of protecting the basic human rights. A business' profits are the ultimate measure of customer satisfaction after all. Private clubs must be allowed to base entry on any criteria their members choose, else there is no right to freedom of association in Canada. One Law for all. That is unifying. Everything else is divisive. The last 40 years of Canadian politics has shown this to be true. As for those businesses, I'd suggest they make their bilingual signs with English lettering 6 inches to a foot high, and French either a millimeter high or 5 meters high. BTW the same goes for any French businesses that are forced to advertise in English against their will. - -- M.J. Ackermann, MD (Mike) Rural Family Physician, Box 13, 120 Cameron Rd. Sherbrooke, NS Canada B0J 3C0 902-522-2172 mikeack@ns.sympatico.ca "Hope for the best, but be prepared for the worst". ------------------------------ End of Cdn-Firearms Digest V12 #95 ********************************** Submissions: mailto:cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Mailing List Commands: mailto:majordomo@scorpion.bogend.ca Moderator's e-mail address: mailto:drg.jordan@sasktel.net List owner: mailto:owner-cdn-firearms@scorpion.bogend.ca FAQ list: http://www.canfirearms/Skeeter/Faq/cfd-faq1.html Web Site: http://www.canfirearms.ca CFDigest Archives: http://www.canfirearms.ca/archives To unsubscribe from _all_ the lists, put the next four lines in a message and mailto:majordomo@scorpion.bogend.ca unsubscribe cdn-firearms-digest unsubscribe cdn-firearms-chat unsubscribe cdn-firearms end (To subscribe, use "subscribe" instead of "unsubscribe".)