Cdn-Firearms Digest Tuesday, November 18 2008 Volume 12 : Number 604 In this issue: If he really wanted our opinion . . Toronto Sun - Missing hunter found dead of gunshot wound "Re: The truth about C-68; A whole lotta noise-this is ancient..." Farewell to a Staunch Ally Sk Party Defeated Firearms Resolutions 12(6) (1) Handgun Court Challenge ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 13:54:09 -0800 From: Len Miller Subject: If he really wanted our opinion . . Cc: Paul Chicoine > Paul Chicoine had taken the time to ask the folk who run the "Canada > Carry > Forum" for a copy of the document in question, on C-68, and he has > kindly > sent a copy of it to me. My thanks to Dave and Paul; true soldiers to the Cause. That's being proactive. - ------------------------------ Nova Scotian Bill Casey, his riding association and constituents are still weeping. Frankly, the description "Manipulated, closed doors of gov't, we have been lied to, corrupt political behaviour, all Canadians must hear" describe what many have experienced over the past 3-years starting with Income Trusts, fiddling with policy item #81, introducing 'enhanced screening', absolutely refusing to fix the alternate certification debacle and ending with the PM stating a few days ago that it is his 'right' to diddle with Party Policy as HE sees fit. - --------------------------------------------- Have we a re-incarnation of Lyin' Brian Will this party repeat the disastrous defeat of the PC's and lay the blame on another Kim? Will the Liberals then saddle the next 'Kim' with yet another monstrous piece of legislation ? And will it take 15 years for the public to catch on? You may bet your (and my*) pension on it . . Len Miller * actually . . I won't be here . . who'd want to ?? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 14:57:33 -0800 (PST) From: Bruce Mills Subject: Toronto Sun - Missing hunter found dead of gunshot wound http://www.torontosun.com/news/canada/2008/11/17/7436911.html Missing hunter found dead of gunshot wound By THE CANADIAN PRESS Last Updated: 17th November 2008, 8:49am SHANNONVILLE, Ont. - The body of a missing hunter from St. Catharines has been found east of Belleville near the town of Shannonville. Provincial Police say 42-year-old Derrick Roy Thompson went out hunting early Friday but failed to return home when expected. Family and friends went looking for him and found him in the woods with what appeared to be a fatal gunshot wound. A post-mortem has been scheduled for today. Police say they would like to hear from anyone who was in the area on Friday. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 10:24:08 -0800 (PST) From: Bruce Mills Subject: "Re: The truth about C-68; A whole lotta noise-this is ancient..." Subject: "Re: The truth about C-68; A whole lotta noise-this is ancient history" - --- On Sun, 11/16/08, Lee Jasper wrote: > This is what's supposed to happen; a Leader and Party > following Party > dictates - not changing them at will to please a few MPs > (even if they > agreed with the RFC's view). Funny, I thought it was an MP's duty to follow the "will of the people" of their constituents... Yours in LIBERTY! Bruce "It is not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself." - From The Declaration of Arbroath, 1320. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 20:52:23 -0600 From: Edward Hudson Subject: Farewell to a Staunch Ally Re: Farewell to a Staunch Ally In today's mail I received the "So Long" edition of the Coalition News from the Responsible Firearms Owners Coalition in which they announced the disbanding of the RFOCBC. We salute this formidable organization as they furl their colors. We will sorely miss having them guarding our Far West Flank. Thanks for all you have done and your steadfast opposition to the cancer of licensing firearms owners. You gave them Hell for many years. We will take up the Torch. Sincerely, Edward B. Hudson DVM, MS Secretary Canadian Unlicensed Firearms Owners Association Association canadienne des propriétaires d’armes sans permis 402 Skeena Crt Saskatoon Saskatchewan S7K 4H2 (306) 242-2379 (306) 230-8929 edwardhudson@shaw.ca www.cufoa.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 09:11:04 -0600 From: Edward Hudson Subject: Sk Party Defeated Firearms Resolutions Re: Sk Party Defeated Firearms Resolutions "Among the resolutions that were defeated was ... a proposal to send a reference case to the Supreme Court of Canada on the federal firearms registry and a resolution to set up a list of people not eligible to possess firearms." As I reported yesterday, all three of our local constituency resolutions were defeated. As General MacArthur said, "We shall return!" Sincerely, Eduardo Gov't keeping promises: WallSask. Party delegates celebrate first year in power James Wood, The StarPhoenixPublished: Monday, November 17, 2008 http://www.canada.com/saskatoonstarphoenix/news/third_page/story.html?id=00c44bf4-0e6b-4b23-ab4b-ae019d355ab6 The Saskatchewan Party convention that wrapped up Sunday was as much about the future as it was about celebrating the past year in power, said party leader and Premier Brad Wall. The first convention since the party won the provincial election a year ago, it was also the first with any policy discussion since February 2006. "There's some very topical issues here that we're going to have to deal with, including the age restriction on young people in the workforce. That's obviously one we'll want to deal with very, very quickly," Wall told reporters. That resolution, brought forward by the party's youth wing, calls for the government to lower to 15 the current minimum age of 16 required to work in hotels, educational institutions, hospitals and nursing homes. It would also allow youths as young as 14 with written parental consent to work in those sectors and hours not to exceed 30 hours a week during the school year. Wall said the government is interested in making the changes but acknowledged the 30-hour-per week may need to be studied closely. Delegates also passed resolutions calling for a study on alternatives to plastic shopping bags, the promotion of small-scale wind power projects for farms and rural businesses, new initiatives for youth at risk and measures to increase the high school graduation rate, among others. Among the resolutions that were defeated was a call for the province to provide health insurance for out-of-country trips, a proposal to send a reference case to the Supreme Court of Canada on the federal firearms registry and a resolution to set up a list of people not eligible to possess firearms. The latter two were described as duplications of past actions or existing programs. At the largest convention in the Sask. Party's 11-year history with more than 500 delegates, Wall's speech focused extensively on the last year in office and the election campaign that put the party in power in November 2007. The premier asked delegates to think about the thousands of Saskatchewan residents who voted for the Sask. Party last fall despite NDP accusations of a hard right-wing "hidden agenda." Wall pointed to almost 80 campaign promises the government has kept and touted the softer side seen in the actions it's taken that weren't talked about during the election. Those have included increased social spending on seniors and people with disabilities, knocking 80,000 low- income people off the tax rolls and the 40 per cent reduction in debt thanks to soaring commodity revenue. But NDP deputy leader Pat Atkinson said while the Sask. Party found time to consider an emergency resolution on lowering the working age, there was no discussion of the landmark Saskatoon Health Region report that contains a mass of recommendations to alleviate poverty in the province and reduce the mammoth gap between the health of the rich and the poor. "We have a huge issue in terms of homelessness. We have a problem with affordability. Obviously for very low-income people, it's very difficult even with the work that the government has done to increase certain allowances. But there are people that are struggling hugely and there are people that are working who are struggling with the escalating cost of living. "Affordability is an issue and we saw nothing about it in either the premier's speech or the resolutions," she said in an interview, noting the government has it "pretty easy when you have revenues that are $3 billion more than you projected and you were left with $2 billion in the kitty, so to speak." Wall told reporters Sunday the government will look closely at all the 46 recommendations in the report, which calls for set targets for reducing the number of children in poverty. Wall said measurable goals are important in all areas of the government -- especially the social side -- but expressed some caution. "We've seen big bold statements in the past from other politicians about eliminating . . . the need for food banks or wiping out child poverty. And obviously those are positive statements for a politician to make. But we also have to be focused on what's achievable because if you're setting goals that you can actually reach and achieve together with those on the front lines providing service, then you can actually make the next step after achieving that goal," he said. The convention also saw the election of a new party president, Regina (sic Saskatoon) lawyer Gary Meschishnick. © The StarPhoenix (Saskatoon) 2008 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 20:40:42 -0800 From: "Don Fair" Subject: 12(6) (1) Handgun Court Challenge 12(6) (1) Handgun Court Challenge On 05 Nov my wife and I appeared in court in Surrey BC to present a charter challenge based on our opinion that the Firearms Act was unconstitutional as it affected us in our 12 (6) (1) handgun situation. We are among the last of the firearms owners in the 12 (6) (1) handgun group. That is to say we acquired 12 (6) handguns after Feb 1995 but before the legislation was enacted. We basically made the argument that the Firearms Act violated our rights under the Charter of Rights and Freedoms in three sections. Section 7 - Rights cannot be revoked Section 26 - Previously held rights cannot be revoked by legislation Section 15 - Citizens cannot be discriminated against. We made this argument, and took this position because all other attempts to change this 12 (6) (1) ruling appear to have failed and nobody seems to have come up with a better plan. We expect a written ruling in about one week's time. Don Fair ------------------------------ End of Cdn-Firearms Digest V12 #604 *********************************** Submissions: mailto:cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Mailing List Commands: mailto:majordomo@scorpion.bogend.ca Moderator's e-mail address: mailto:drg.jordan@sasktel.net List owner: mailto:owner-cdn-firearms@scorpion.bogend.ca FAQ list: http://www.canfirearms/Skeeter/Faq/cfd-faq1.html Web Site: http://www.canfirearms.ca CFDigest Archives: http://www.canfirearms.ca/archives To unsubscribe from _all_ the lists, put the next four lines in a message and mailto:majordomo@scorpion.bogend.ca unsubscribe cdn-firearms-digest unsubscribe cdn-firearms-chat unsubscribe cdn-firearms end (To subscribe, use "subscribe" instead of "unsubscribe".)