Cdn-Firearms Digest Thursday, December 18 2008 Volume 12 : Number 834 In this issue: Re: Letter to National Post (just sent) Thanks Rob [Letter to National Post (just sent)] re: George Jonas Column Toronto's gun amnesty farce ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 15:36:23 -0400 From: "Al Muir" Subject: Re: Letter to National Post (just sent) > Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 08:12:51 -0500 (EST) > From: Rob Sciuk > Subject: Letter to National Post (just sent) > > Great civilian gun party is over ... (fwd) > Finally, the interested student will recognize the organized attempt to > throw the firearms classed as "semi-automatic" into disrepute in an > attempt to have politicians ban them. In truth, semi-automatics make up > the majority of sporting firearms in Canada, from duck guns to target > pistols. Rob, could you give us the data that show that "semi-automatics make up the majority of sporting firearms in Canada"? Al ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 12:46:48 -0500 From: "Breitkreuz, Garry - Assistant 2" Subject: Thanks Rob [Letter to National Post (just sent)] To: "Robert S. Sciuk" RCMP: NUMBER OF REGISTERED SEMI-AUTOMATICS BY PROVINCE http://www.garrybreitkreuz.com/publications/2006/851.pdf Cdn-Firearms Digest Thursday, December 18 2008 Volume 12 : Number 831 - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 08:12:51 -0500 (EST) From: Rob Sciuk Subject: Letter to National Post (just sent) Great civilian gun party is over ... (fwd) Dear Sir/Madame, Letter writer Ron Charach exhibits a class of hoplophobia (fear of weapons) for which there can be no cure. His language is filled with the code-words and untruths which pepper the rhetoric of those who would decide for others which rights may be exercised in a free society. When Charach terms the AK-47 used by the terrorists in Mumbai as "semi-automatic", he ignores the fact that the AK is primarily a fully automatic firearm, with a semi-automatic capability. They are banned for civilian ownership both in Canada and in India (and the US). Strict firearm laws give the terrorists a huge advantage over law abiding Mumbai residents and ensured the boldness of the attack, and guaranteed its success. When Charach indicates that police "sharp shooters" were unable to intervene, as they were unable to discern the terrorists, but video evidence on You-Tube shows two brave policemen armed with a single Lee-Enfield bolt action rifle between them hold back a group of the heavily armed attackers. Recent studies have unlinked suicide rates from firearm ownership, as even in the presence of a firearm, other forms of death are preferable even to those in the depths of despair. Finally, the interested student will recognize the organized attempt to throw the firearms classed as "semi-automatic" into disrepute in an attempt to have politicians ban them. In truth, semi-automatics make up the majority of sporting firearms in Canada, from duck guns to target pistols. Canada has strict magazine limits which pertain specifically to semi-automatics, and magazines which exceed 10 rounds for a pistol, or 5 rounds for a rifle are prohibited devices. This has the interesting side-effect of making high capacity semi-automatics available only criminals who are unconcerned about the laws and their unintended consequences, though they are only too happy to have an advantage. If Charach and his ilk have their way, responsible Canadians will have their legal property confiscated for no good reason, and all Canadians will be left defenseless in the face of predator, criminal or terrorist attack. This might play well in some parts of the world, but not in a true liberal democracy. Not in *MY* Canada! Sincerely, Robert S. Sciuk ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 10:06:58 -0800 From: "Todd Birch" Subject: re: George Jonas Column There is an appropriate Latin phrase for those that would expunge the English language of 'unnecessary words' and confusing Latin expressions ..... http://www.insultmonger.com/swearing/latin.htm Didn't realize how handy and applicable that expression would be. We are raising and (un)educating a breed of functional illiterates, couched in Blackberry and Iphone techno-literacy while burdened with idiosyncratic "teenspeak"; like, you know what I mean if you've spoken with a teenager lately or listened to one rhyme off the daily specials in your local eatery. TB ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 14:49:15 -0500 From: "Barry Glasgow" Subject: Toronto's gun amnesty farce To: National Post; ON Toronto Globe and Mail; ON Toronto Guardian; ON Toronto Mirror-Guardian; ON Toronto Star; ON Toronto Sun Cc: william.blair@torontopolice.on.ca; tbarris@centennialcollege.ca; mayor_miller@toronto.ca Subject: Toronto's gun amnesty farce Toronto Police Chief William Blair is calling Toronto's recent gun amnesty "a very successful program on a number of fronts". Does he really believe that this waste of time and resources will save even one life in Toronto? Legal gun ownership here in Canada has existed for hundreds of years and, up until 1978, law-abiding citizens could even own machine guns - both they and handguns needing to be registered through the RCMP after 1934. The U.S. initiated stricter gun control laws in 1968, followed later by more laws and a new federal department to enforce them. In 1995, the federal Liberal government launched a gun control program that has cost taxpayers over $2 billion and put enormous restrictions on legal gun owners. Thirteen years later, gun violence in Toronto has escalated while dropping in many U.S. cities. Even though (contrary to Chief Blair's claim) more than 85% of the handguns used in Toronto shootings are smuggled in from the U.S., the same politicians who claimed that total gun registration and safe-storage regulations was the answer now tell us that confiscating legally owned handguns and having little old ladies surrender valuable war trophies for destruction will help. But under relatively "lax" gun control regimes on both sides of the border during the early 60's, neither the U.S. nor Toronto came anywhere near the level of gun violence we now see - so what really changed? When Chief Blair, Mayor Miller and their supporters can answer that, they will be closer to solving the problem - instead of giving Torontonians warm,fuzzy feelings and cheap Nikon cameras . ====================== Barry Glasgow Woodlawn, Ontario ------------------------------ End of Cdn-Firearms Digest V12 #834 *********************************** Submissions: mailto:cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Mailing List Commands: mailto:majordomo@scorpion.bogend.ca Moderator's e-mail address: mailto:drg.jordan@sasktel.net List owner: mailto:owner-cdn-firearms@scorpion.bogend.ca FAQ list: http://www.canfirearms/Skeeter/Faq/cfd-faq1.html Web Site: http://www.canfirearms.ca CFDigest Archives: http://www.canfirearms.ca/archives To unsubscribe from _all_ the lists, put the next four lines in a message and mailto:majordomo@scorpion.bogend.ca unsubscribe cdn-firearms-digest unsubscribe cdn-firearms-chat unsubscribe cdn-firearms end (To subscribe, use "subscribe" instead of "unsubscribe".)