Cdn-Firearms Digest Tuesday, May 26 2009 Volume 13 : Number 279 In this issue: National Post: Conservative MP's bid to abolish gun registry fails Re: Off-duty Saskatoon police officer arrested, ... Liberal hypocrasy Re: NPost: Conservative MP's bid to abolish gun registry fails Hostage-taker killed by police broke gun ban Letter to Toronto Star (just sent) One gun registry bill dead, second bid in Maryland's fleeced taxpayers fight back [NFR] California Supreme Court Upholds Gay Marriage Ban [NFR] Canada's GG Eats Raw Seal Heart To Support Traditional Hunting ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 01:09:00 -0300 From: Al Muir Subject: National Post: Conservative MP's bid to abolish gun registry fails Subject: Re: Off-duty Saskatoon police officer arrested, ... On Mon, 25 May 2009 22:44:33 -0600 (CST), you wrote: |> |>------------------------------ |> |>Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 13:18:23 -0600 |>From: Joe Gingrich |>Subject: Off-duty Saskatoon police officer arrested, ... |> |>... charged with impaired driving |> |>http://www.thestarphoenix.com/news/duty+Saskatoon+police+officer+arrested+charged+with+impaired+driving/1628256/story.html |> |>Off-duty Saskatoon police officer arrested, charged with impaired driving |> Is this a left hook to throw us off the fact that he may have been packing heat?? |>Const. Roy Rodgers was arrested while off duty by patrol members at |>approximately 3 a.m. Sunday, following a third party complaint regarding a |>man and woman arguing in a vehicle at 22nd Street and Idylwyld Drive. Yeah, that's his real name (Const. Roy Rodgers) isn't it......and of course, his wife is called (Dale Evans), and his car called (Glock_Trigger)....right, it doesn't get funnier with these gangbangers... A Study in Pseudonyms or Nom de Plume: Cops/Judges/Legal Workers are full of aliases/pseudonyms, and rarely use their own handle, just like the hells angels, and myriads of other groups who usually have a guk/hamc/native, "One Name_Mulitple_Syllables" ID like all Formal Japanese/Native Names.......did U remember that "Skeeter_Traps", "Yoda_Anon" or "Dynamite" from 30years ago....or did all that nickname just come about naturally without an analytical thought just like most of them (not_that_it_matters_at_all), just like Buzz's handle maybe??......just an analytical conjecture of how ppl get pseudonyms....nicknames....and how did they all come about??<:) Maybe I'm envious since I never really had a nickname, except for some gun enthusiasts who called me "Awesome"......what a real weird name, I hate it......... again, that's guk/hamc/native "One Name_Mulitple Syllables", or it could be native like Morningstar (Hopi) or is that (Salish/Chinook/Frogy)....... Anyway, I think I'd rather be called (1_ragged_hole) by gunnys....or is that wishfull thinking.>:) *Now for the bad guy nicknames* and since "Cops/Judges/Legal Workers are full of aliases/pseudos" SO, what is the legal validity of their arrest or legal validity of their "judicial" arrest/search warrants..... I would think not to take them seriously and to not accept Telefiled warrants as anything substantial, but then THEY are getting rampant in the world senselessness, and btw, are getting away with it...... When THEY TRY to arrest U, THEY always ask for Your *Street Name*, regardless of what kind of 3 piece suit and Rolls Royce you were arrested in with your chauffeur....I remember thinking.......WTF is that???? Bob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 06:58:59 -0300 From: "M.J. Ackermann, MD" Subject: Liberal hypocrasy http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fullcomment/archive/2009/05/25/lorne-gunter-the-liberal-way-with-hypocrisy.aspx > */What hypocrites the Liberals are. For more than four decades, the > Liberal Party of Canada has deliberately confused its policies with > our national interest, then labelled as "un-Canadian" anyone who > disagreed with them./* - -- M.J. Ackermann, MD (Mike) Rural Family Physician, Sherbrooke, NS mikeack@ns.sympatico.ca "Hope for the best, but be prepared for the worst". ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 08:26:39 -0400 From: "ed machel" Subject: Re: NPost: Conservative MP's bid to abolish gun registry fails - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Al Muir" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 12:09 AM Subject: National Post: Conservative MP's bid to abolish gun registry fails > fails > > Canwest > > On the bright side when C-391 is not passed we will have a law that is > still widely unenforced. When the Cons lose the next election that will > continue to be the case. They will still owe us "something". All in all we > could not have asked for a better outcome given the 308 bums involved and > our incompetant "leadership". > > I payed no attention to the last federal election and will do the same in > the next. That is unless there are enough that want to get involved in a > don't vote campaign. > > Al THATS WHAT I AM SERIOUSLY CONSIDERING , BUT A "NO' VOTE IS THE SAME AS A VOTE for THE LIEBERALS WHO WANT TO RAISE TAXES AND ADD A CARBON TAX FOR "GLOBAL WARMING" CONSIDERING THE WEATHER THE LAST THREE SUMMERS IT WOULD APPEAR THAT WE ARE ENTERING ANOTHER MINI ICE-AGE NOT A GLOBAL WARMING PERIOD. What we need is more co2 to warm up the atmosphere since sun spot activity is non existent and by all reputable sources this is what causes global warming. In any case MORE co2 is a net benefit to the planet.It enables plant life to flourish much better than normal. Considering that plants are co2 sinks this is a net benefit for sentient life,as they grow better and produce more Oxygen. This is the reason co2 is pumped into greenhouses , to stimulate better growth in plants. ed/on We have had NO sunspot activity for the last 5-10 years . ------------------------------ Date: Tue, May 26, 2009 8:21 am From: "Dennis & Hazel Young" Subject: Hostage-taker killed by police broke gun ban CALGARY HERALD - MAY 26, 2009 Cache found in home of gunman Hostage-taker killed by police broke gun ban BY GWENDOLYN RICHARDS AND SHERRI ZICKEFOOSE, CALGARY HERALDMAY 26, 2009 http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/Cache+found+home+gunman/1630592/story.html A man armed with a loaded sawed-off shot-gun who held police in a standoff before he was shot and killed early Sunday morning had a cache of weapons in his home despite being prohibited from owning firearms. Police said Monday they seized 13 long guns--including a loaded rifle -- ammunition and various explosives, such as devices designed to stun through loud noises, from Melvin Donald Vanhouwe's rented basement suite on Sabrina Bay S. W. It was learned Monday that Vanhouwe, 49,had been ruled not a danger to the public by a judge who gave him a conditional sentence on drug charges. Vanhouwe received a 20-month sentence -- 10 months of which he served under 24-hour house arrest -- after he was convicted of cocaine trafficking in 2003, according to court documents obtained by the Herald. A judge also slapped him with a 10-year prohibition from owning firearms, ammunition and explosive substances. Insp. Guy Slater of the Calgary police major crimes section said the next step is to determine where the guns came from and to whom they belonged. "That's the focus of our investigation now. We have these guns; we don't know their origin and we don't know if they are legitimately owned," he said. Calgary police officers are still investigating the events that led up to the fatal shooting, while members of the in-dependent Alberta Serious Incident Response Team look into the shooting itself. What motivated Vanhouwe to take his neighbour hostage has yet to be determined, and it remains unclear what happened prior to police showing up at the Sabrina Road S. W. home at 12:50 a. m. Sunday. The 19-year-old hostage, who was freed by police after about an hour, told the Herald on Monday he was not ready to talk about the ordeal. Vanhouwe, reportedly intoxicated and acting bizarrely, had apparently been holding the neighbour hostage when police patrol units arrived. Members of the police tac team arrived shortly after. With the hostage freed, the gunman was directly facing two officers about six metres away with nothing between them, said ASIRT executive director Clifton Purvis. Vanhouwe raised his 12-gauge, sawed-off, pump action shotgun -- loaded with two live rounds--pointed it at the two officers and the tac team member fired three shots from his C-8 assault rifle. The gunman was rushed to hospital, but was pronounced dead at 2:34 a. m. Purvis could not say if all three shots hit Vanhouwe. Vanhouwe was born in Saskatoon and had two brothers. He had a daughter, but family relations are strained, relatives say. He worked as a grocery store baker in Saskatoon and later moved to Ponoka. Police said he had been a Calgary resident for a number of years. "People don't know much about his life because he wasn't around," said Liz Vanhouwe, who is divorced from the man's uncle. Vanhouwe's brother Monte, who lives in Saskatoon, said he was "not interested" in talking about his brother when contacted by the Herald. Despite Vanhouwe's troubled past and run-ins with police, news of his death has left relatives bewildered. "I'm just shaking," said Liz. Purvis said investigators are still trying to put together a picture of what happened. "Once we've put all those pieces together, we should have a fairly good idea of what happened," he said. Investigators have obtained surveillance footage from public and private cameras and are interviewing witnesses. The police officer who fired the shots is a 27-year veteran with the force with more than a decade of experience on the tac team. As per the service's protocol, he has been put on administrative duties. Purvis said the goal of the ASIRT investigation is to determine whether the officer's actions were justified. "Part of the analysis will be determining what the police officer who shot felt his level of threat was at the time," he said, adding they will then look at the facts to see if that belief was "reasonable." This is the first time a member of the Calgary police tac team has been the subject of an ASIRT investigation. It is the second time this year, however, that ASIRT has been called to examine a fatal shooting at the hands of a Calgary police officer. In March, officers shot and killed Travis Douglas Oakes after he and another man drove a stolen car into a 24-hour car wash at 3:15 a. m. Police had been following the car and were trying to arrest the men when shots were fired by one of the officers. grichards@theherald.canwest.com szickefoose@theherald.canwest.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 10:27:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Rob Sciuk Subject: Letter to Toronto Star (just sent) Bye, bye, Bryant (fwd) Dear Sir/Madame, I read with interest your depiction of Michael Bryant, but I fear you are far too quick to bid him adieu. In Mr. Bryant, I am reminded of another former politician renowned for an abiding hunger for power, Alan Rock. Both were quick to play to the public in furthering their careers, and both have made missteps as a result. While Mr. Rock has retreated to the relative safety and obscurity of the Ivory towers of academia in Ottawa, Mr. Bryant, ever the pit-bull, has found a role which would serve his personal ambitions well, and keep him squarely in the public eye, if not in their faces. I'm sure this new high profile position will suit Mr. Bryant very well, until he once again chews through his leash and makes a mess on the rug of his new master, Mayor Miller, that is. Sincerely, Robert S. Sciuk ------------------------------ Date: Tue, May 26, 2009 8:28 am From: "Dennis & Hazel Young" Subject: One gun registry bill dead, second bid in CANWEST NEWS SERVICE - MAY 26, 2009 One gun registry bill dead, second bid in works BY DAVID AKIN http://www.canada.com/news/Conservative+bill+guns+fails+register/1628760/sto ry.html http://www.edmontonjournal.com/news/registry+bill+dead+second+works/1628760/ story.html http://www.timescolonist.com/registry+bill+dead+second+works/1628760/story.h tml OTTAWA - Saskatchewan MP Garry Breitkreuz says he is happy to let his legislation to kill the controversial long-gun registry die a quiet death as he gets behind the bill of another Conservative MP who he believes has a better shot at abolishing the rule that would force rifle owners to be certified. Breitkreuz had introduced a private member's bill in February that would have forced only owners of restricted and prohibited weapons to obtain a gun registry certificate. But his bill went further than that, with, for example, changes to restrictions on the transportation of weapons and a call that the auditor general periodically review the operation of the gun registry. Those additional items, he said in an interview, may have jeopardized the chance of his bill passing through the House of Commons so, on Monday, as his bill came up for debate, he purposely stayed out of the House. Under House rules, debate on his bill could not proceed unless he was present. It may come up one more time for debate but even if it does, Breitkreuz will likely do the same thing, effectively killing his own bill. He will, instead, work in favour of another private member's bill put forward by Manitoba Conservative MP Candice Hoeppner. "I am now supporting (her) bill," Breitkreuz said. "She's now taken the essence of my bill. I seconded her bill and I'm completely supportive of what she's doing." The Canadian Association of Chiefs of Police and other groups opposed Breitkreuz's bill and other attempts to dismantle the long-gun registry. Hoeppner's bill, C-391, is a stripped-down version of Breitkreuz's bill that would repeal sections of the Criminal Code and the Firearms Act which now require owners of all guns to obtain a certificate. If Bill C-391 becomes law, only owners of restricted weapons or prohibited weapons would be required to register. Conservatives hope and expect that C-391 finds support among NDP and Liberal MPs who represent rural ridings where the gun registry is unpopular, although private member's bills rarely become law. Even though the owners of rifles and other long guns would not have to register their weapons under C-391, they would be required to have a valid firearms licence, and go through a police background check and safety training to purchase or possess firearms and to purchase ammunition. The existing law requires all gun owners to register their firearms, but the Conservatives have twice extended an "amnesty" on that requirement. The current amnesty, renewed earlier this month, gives firearms owners until May 16, 2010, to register their weapons. "I sense there is 100 per cent of support from the leadership in our party for what I'm doing," Breitkreuz said. The government itself has drawn up its own legislation to kill the long-gun registry, although it tabled that legislation in the Senate where it languishes with no timeline for its disposition. Public Safety Minister Peter Van Loan would not explain why he decided to introduce it in the Senate, where the Liberals hold a majority of seats, rather than in the House of Commons. "We're quite committed to the elimination of the long gun registry," said Van Loan. "That was our commitment in the last election and we'll be advancing towards doing that." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 09:05:23 -0600 From: Joe Gingrich Subject: Maryland's fleeced taxpayers fight back [NFR] http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124329282377252471.html Millionaires Go Missing Maryland's fleeced taxpayers fight back MAY 26, 2009 Here's a two-minute drill in soak-the-rich economics: Maryland couldn't balance its budget last year, so the state tried to close the shortfall by fleecing the wealthy. Politicians in Annapolis created a millionaire tax bracket, raising the top marginal income-tax rate to 6.25%. And because cities such as Baltimore and Bethesda also impose income taxes, the state-local tax rate can go as high as 9.45%. Governor Martin O'Malley, a dedicated class warrior, declared that these richest 0.3% of filers were "willing and able to pay their fair share." The Baltimore Sun predicted the rich would "grin and bear it." One year later, nobody's grinning. One-third of the millionaires have disappeared from Maryland tax rolls. In 2008 roughly 3,000 million-dollar income tax returns were filed by the end of April. This year there were 2,000, which the state comptroller's office concedes is a "substantial decline." On those missing returns, the government collects 6.25% of nothing. Instead of the state coffers gaining the extra $106 million the politicians predicted, millionaires paid $100 million less in taxes than they did last year -- even at higher rates. No doubt the majority of that loss in millionaire filings results from the recession. However, this is one reason that depending on the rich to finance government is so ill-advised: Progressive tax rates create mountains of cash during good times that vanish during recessions. For evidence, consult California, New York and New Jersey (see here). The Maryland state revenue office says it's "way too early" to tell how many millionaires moved out of the state when the tax rates rose. But no one disputes that some rich filers did leave. It's easier than the redistributionists think. Christopher Summers, president of the Maryland Public Policy Institute, notes: "Marylanders with high incomes typically own second homes in tax friendlier states like Florida, Delaware, South Carolina and Virginia. So it's easy for them to change their residency." All of this means that the burden of paying for bloated government in Annapolis will fall on the middle class. Thanks to the futility of soaking the rich, these working families will now pay Mr. O'Malley's "fair share." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 12:33:17 -0600 From: Joe Gingrich Subject: California Supreme Court Upholds Gay Marriage Ban [NFR] http://www.newsmax.com/us/us_gay_marriage/2009/05/26/218232.html California Supreme Court Upholds Gay Marriage Ban Tuesday, May 26, 2009 1:25 PM The California Supreme Court upheld a voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage Tuesday, but it also decided that the estimated 18,000 gay couples who tied the knot before the law took effect will stay wed. The 6-1 decision written by Chief Justice Ron George rejected an argument by gay rights activists that the ban revised the California constitution's equal protection clause to such a dramatic degree that it first needed the Legislature's approval. The court said the people have a right, through the ballot box, to change their constitution. "In a sense, petitioners' and the attorney general's complaint is that it is just too easy to amend the California constitution through the initiative process. But it is not a proper function of this court to curtail that process; we are constitutionally bound to uphold it," the ruling said. The announcement of the decision set off an outcry among a sea of demonstrators who had gathered in front of the San Francisco courthouse awaiting the ruling. Holding signs and many waving rainbow flags, they chanted "shame on you." Many people also held hands in a chain around an intersection in an act of protest. Gay rights activists immediately promised to resume their fight, saying they would go back to voters as early as next year in a bid to repeal Proposition 8. The split decision provided some relief for the 18,000 gay couples who married in the brief time same-sex marriage was legal last year but that wasn't enough to dull the anger over the ruling that banned gay marriage. "It's not about whether we get to stay married. Our fight is far from over," said Jeannie Rizzo, 62, who was one of the lead plaintiffs along with her wife, Polly Cooper. "I have about 20 years left on this earth, and I'm going to continue to fight for equality every day." The state Supreme Court had ruled last May that it was unconstitutional to deny gay couples the right to wed. Many same-sex couples had rushed to get married before the November vote on Proposition 8, fearing it could be passed. When it was, gay rights activists went back to the court arguing that the ban was improperly put to voters. That was the issue justices decided Tuesday. "After comparing this initiative measure to the many other constitutional changes that have been reviewed and evaluated in numerous prior decisions of this court, we conclude Proposition 8 constitutes a constitutional amendment rather than a constitutional revision," the ruling said. © 2009 Associated Press. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, May 26, 2009 12:51 pm From: "Dennis & Hazel Young" Subject: Canada's GG Eats Raw Seal Heart To Support Traditional Hunting Canada's Governor General Eats Raw Seal Heart To Support Traditional Hunting May 26, 2009 11:02 a.m. EST - AHN Staff http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7015273968 http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jKKCrIpvS6RwoRtDDh7R8rNs5s UQD98E2D080 Rankin Inlet, Nunavut (AHN) - To show her support for the embattled tradition of seal hunting, Canadian Governor General Michaelle Jean ate a slice of raw seal heart on Monday. Jean tasted the raw heart during a stop at Rankin Inlet of Nunavut. She is on an Arctic tour from May 25 to June 1. Rankin Inlet is one of eight communities she is slated to visit to observe the 10th anniversary of Nunavut's establishment. According to the Canadian Press accounts, while hundreds of Inuits gathered for a community festival, Jean cut a seal carcass using the traditional ulu blade to slice the meat from the skin. After eating the meat slice she wiped her bloodied fingertips with a napkin and told her daughter Marie-Eden the seal heart tasted good. Jean said, quoted by the Canadian Press, "It was absolutely delicious... These are ancient practices that are part of a way of life... If you can't understand that, you're completely missing the reality of life here." The publicity stunt is Canada's way of countering the European Union's move to ban entry of all seal products amid clamor from animal rights and environment groups to stop the seal hunt because of its alleged inhumane ways of maiming the seal killed for its meat and fur. The Inuits insisted they do not use hooked hakapiks which are being criticized by green groups. Instead they use guns or harpoons, which they pointed out is more humane compared to the way cattle are slaughtered for its meat. From Rankin Inlet, Jean proceeded to Maani Ulujuk High School and later met with members of the Hamlet Council. She will be in various parts of Nunavut until Saturday. On Sunday until Monday the governor general will be in Kuujjuag in Quebec for meetings with community leaders and members of the Makivik Corporation, which handles the heritage funds of the Inuits of Nunavik. Read more: "Canada's Governor General Eats Raw Seal Heart To Support Traditional Hunting | AHN | May 26, 2009" - http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7015273968#ixzz0Gdk7ZuLb&A ------------------------------ End of Cdn-Firearms Digest V13 #279 *********************************** Submissions: mailto:cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Mailing List Commands: mailto:majordomo@scorpion.bogend.ca Moderator's email: mailto:owner-cdn-firearms@scorpion.bogend.ca List owner: mailto:owner-cdn-firearms@scorpion.bogend.ca FAQ list: http://www.canfirearms/Skeeter/Faq/cfd-faq1.html Web Site: http://www.canfirearms.ca CFDigest Archives: http://www.canfirearms.ca/archives To unsubscribe from _all_ the lists, put the next four lines in a message and mailto:majordomo@scorpion.bogend.ca unsubscribe cdn-firearms-digest unsubscribe cdn-firearms-chat unsubscribe cdn-firearms end (To subscribe, use "subscribe" instead of "unsubscribe".)