Cdn-Firearms Digest Monday, October 25 2010 Volume 14 : Number 151 In this issue: Re: EDITORIAL: Registry offers only statistics Re: Clint Eastwood: His 10 Best Roles [Honorary member of the CFD] Caledonia: The town that law forgot [Fantino] RE: Colonel Williams CBC - Winnipeg shootings sparked by drug offer CTV - Quebec's right wing gathers at 'historic' meeting Saskatoon S-P - Firearm charges laid after parking incident TorStar - Man delivering pizza when killed by firearm: police TorStar - Man arrested after Parkdale shooting Social engineering Re: CTV - Quebec's right wing gathers at 'historic' meeting Re: CTV - Quebec's right wing gathers at 'historic' meeting RE: Colonel Williams RE: Prisoner Williams ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2010 12:01:48 -0600 From: 10x@telus.net Subject: Re: EDITORIAL: Registry offers only statistics At , you wrote: > >--=======AVGMAIL-4B503B34======= >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > >NANAIMO NEWS BULLETING - OCTOBER 23, 2010 >EDITORIAL: Registry offers only statistics >http://www.bclocalnews.com/opinion/105541308.html > >Abbotsford has more registered weapons per capita than Surrey, or even >Vancouver. In fact, there are more than 27,000 firearms in the city, >according to the Canadian Firearms Registry. That might surprise some >people. It may even alarm others, but it shouldn't. Registered weapons >aren't the ones we need to be worried about. It's the guns that aren't >registered, and the people who don't register them that are the real >concern. Is the writter talking about the 2 million or more Canadians who never bothered to get a firearms license but are not using their guns to intimidate, threaten, injure, rob, or kill others? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2010 14:48:01 -0400 From: "mred" Subject: Re: Clint Eastwood: His 10 Best Roles [Honorary member of the CFD] I really like all of Clintwoods movies ....a lot~! But the one that really got my attention ,for its bitter-sweet ending ? "Million Dollar Baby" I thought this couldnt have been done better by any other director in Hollywood. So far I think this is his masterpiece. ed/on ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2010 16:30:09 -0400 From: Lee Jasper Subject: Caledonia: The town that law forgot [Fantino] Book excerpt Caledonia: The town that law forgot Christie Blatchford From Saturday's Globe and Mail Published Friday, Oct. 22, 2010 7:43PM EDT Last updated Sunday, Oct. 24, 2010 8:09AM EDT http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/caledonia-the-town-that-law-forgot/article1769901/ Now that I've written a whole book about what happened in Caledonia, Ont., starting in February of 2006 and continuing to this day, it's daunting to offer a précis. But basically it's this: The people of that lovely small town just an hour and change from Toronto were abandoned by their governments, and ultimately by their police force, and left to fend for themselves. The book is about the failure of government to govern, and of leaders to lead. From the get-go, the federal and provincial governments had adopted a hands-off policy to the occupation. Ottawa didn't even recognize the tenuous land claim that residents of the Six Nations reserve were belatedly making, and deferred to Queen's Park; the Ontario government nonetheless treated the occupation as purely a land claim and somehow, overtly or in the subtle ways that are the hallmark of practised politicians, made its wishes known; the Ontario Provincial Police, first under then-commissioner Gwen Boniface and later under her successor Julian Fantino, now a star candidate for the Stephen Harper Conservatives, obligingly carried that message to the force's rank and file. The end result was a form of policing that would be simply unrecognizable to Canadians living anywhere else in the country: cops who watched or turned away as the law was broken, sometimes brazenly; cops who appeared to take sides and would take action against only one group of people and not the other; cops who refused to make arrests, conduct investigations or protect the public. Some of those officers who resisted were either punished, reprimanded or disciplined, with the result that the others lost heart. Few people are as shamed by Caledonia, sickened by their own impotence, as the men and women of the OPP who worked there regularly. At one end of the spectrum is a letter written by then-commissioner Fantino in December of 2008. The occasion was the criminal trial of Clyde Powless, a Six Nations man who had acted as one of the band's spokesmen and liaisons during the most heated period of the occupation. Mr. Powless was on trial for assaulting a non-native, anti-occupation leader named Gary McHale, an offence to which Mr. Powless pleaded guilty on Dec. 8 that year, and for which he received a conditional discharge. But on Dec. 4, Commissioner Fantino provided a letter to Mr. Powless's lawyer. He gave Mr. Powless a ringing endorsement. He blamed the victim, Mr. McHale, for having provoked the assault. “The Honourable Court,” he suggested, might want to consider that Mr. Powless had often acted as a peacemaker. It was extraordinary, and it was official: Ontario's senior law official was not only denouncing the victim of a crime, he was also singing the praises of the assailant to a judge. At the other end of the spectrum is the event described in the excerpt below, which happened to a Caledonia resident named Dave Brown in May of 2006 – early on in the occupation of the Douglas Creek Estates housing development by protesters from the nearby Six Nations reserve and their supporters. At this time, protesters had set up barricades to the site, issued makeshift “passports” to the residents, and were occasionally imposing curfews upon them. This may be the sorriest night of Dave Brown's sorry four years, until his lawsuit against the Ontario government and the OPP was settled out of court in the fall of 2009 and he and his family were finally able to move away from the occupation site. The very worst of the violence and lawlessness – grossly underreported in the national press – that marked this occupation were still to come, but the ground had been beautifully prepared, the conditions set, which would allow these things and, arguably, enable them. BOOK EXCERPT: Helpless, by Christie Blatchford In May of 2006, Dave Brown was still working at the Nicholson and Cates lumberyard, operating the lift truck, still hanging on to the remnants of his old life. - -- A new court date, another blow for fairness in Fantino case CHRISTIE BLATCHFORD CAYUGA, ONT.— From Saturday's Globe and Mail Published Saturday, Jan. 16, 2010 12:00AM EST Last updated Wednesday, Apr. 21, 2010 11:15AM EDT http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/a-new-court-date-another-blow-for-fairness-in-fantino-case/article1433579/singlepage/#articlecontent - -- Activist outmatched in fight with top cop CHRISTIE BLATCHFORD From Thursday's Globe and Mail Published Thursday, Jan. 14, 2010 12:00AM EST Last updated Wednesday, Apr. 21, 2010 11:13AM EDT http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/activist-outmatched-in-fight-with-top-cop/article1430564/singlepage/#articlecontent ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2010 17:05:16 -0400 From: Ed Sieb Subject: RE: Colonel Williams Jim, I'm certainly no expert in criminology, sexual psychopathology, or anything else in that field, but I'm quite convinced that Williams "mistakes" were in fact semi-intentional. He wanted to get caught. A sexual compulsion is difficult, if not impossible to control. He knew he had one and his rank, social position, upbringing, education and intelligence all conspired to work against his compulsion. In the end, one part of him wanted to stop, but couldn't. Thus, he semi-intentionally trapped himself. You're quite correct, he is neither Olsen, nor Picton. Ed Sieb - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Jim Pook wrote: The interesting thing about Williams is that he was a fairly intelligent man, yet made so many stupid mistakes in his crimes. He stayed close to his home, one of them just 3 doors away. He parked his SUV in front of one of his victims homes and it was spotted by a witness. He was wearing the same shoes that he used in his crimes to the police interview that got his confession. He kept not only souvenirs from his victims, (common among serial killers), but he took photos of the crimes and kept them in a location where they could be found. It's almost as if he wanted to be caught. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2010 14:12:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Bruce Mills Subject: CBC - Winnipeg shootings sparked by drug offer http://www.cbc.ca/canada/manitoba/story/2010/10/24/wpg-shootings.html Winnipeg shootings sparked by drug offer 13-year-old shot after refusing to buy marijuana: witnesses Last Updated: Sunday, October 24, 2010 | 3:20 PM CT CBC News Two men are dead and a teenaged girl is in critical condition after apparently random shootings within 35 minutes of each other in Winnipeg's North End on Saturday night. Police have not released the names of the victims - though a witness identified one as a family friend - and had only a limited description of the person who shot at three homes in the William Whyte neighbourhood. Family members of the victims are still being notified of what happened, Const. Jason Michalyshen said on Sunday. Police said witness accounts left investigators with a preliminary description of a shooter who is between five feet eight inches and six feet tall and possibly in his or her 20s. The person seems to have worn all black clothing and moved on foot and on a mountain bike. The first shooting happened about 8:40 p.m. CT in the 200 block of Stella Walk, according to police. A bullet hole could be seen in the window of an apartment. Two other shootings followed - outside a home in the 400 block of Dufferin Avenue, then outside a home in the 400 block of Boyd Avenue, police said. Girl shot after drugs refused In the first shooting on Stella Walk, a man dressed in black approached a group of area kids and asked if they wanted to buy marijuana. When they refused, he opened fire, hitting a 13-year-old girl in the abdomen, a number of witnesses told CBC News. They are not being identified out of concerns for their safety. The terrified children banged on the door of a nearby home to get help while the shooter took a bicycle from another home and rode off, the witnesses said. The teen girl was rushed to Children's Hospital, where she remains in critical condition. Another young boy was also shot at, but the bullet went through the sleeve of his sweater, witnesses said. The witnesses said they were each interviewed at police headquarters overnight. Dufferin victim shot twice: witness Kyle Ross, who lives at 495 Dufferin Ave., said a friend of his father's - a man he identified as Tommy - was the victim in the shooting on that street. Ross told CBC News the man was dropping off some meat at Ross's back door when he was shot in the back and the back of the leg. Ross said he knelt and felt the victim's pulse before emergency crews arrived. The three shootings took place over about half an hour and occurred within blocks of each other. Locations are approximate. The three shootings took place over about half an hour and occurred within blocks of each other. The three locations are within a few blocks of each other. The last report of a shooting came in at 9:15 p.m., police said. After the shootings, investigators cordoned off a large area of the neighbourhood while they searched for the assailant. Police asked motorists to stay away for their own protection. Police were not asking people in the area to remain indoors, Michalyshen said, contrary to earlier reports. "We're not about to create panic or cause unnecessary scare to members of the public." Michalyshen said. "But we are certainly seeing the importance of notifying the public given the nature of these incidents." Police have "no information" to support reports that the shooter was knocking on doors in the area, then opening fire on unsuspecting people inside, he said. 3 slayings in 2 weeks Michalyshen said the victims don't appear to have been targeted, but information was scarce. "At this stage of the investigation, [the shootings] appear to be random," he said. Michalyshen cautioned that investigators have yet to confirm that all three shootings are linked. Police have taken the rare step of bringing in a crime analyst to examine the incidents to see if they are linked. Investigators are running tests to determine whether the same firearm was used in all three shootings. Saturday's homicides mark the second and third in the area in two weeks. The fatal shooting of Tiffany Johnston, 21, outside a home on Selkirk Avenue on Oct. 10 remains unsolved. Including Saturday's shooting deaths, Winnipeg has recorded 21 homicides in 2010. Nine have taken place in the North End. "This community, there's no question, has been challenged by violent offences," Michalyshen said. And despite a large number of people living in the area, he added, "there are bad people doing bad things." People who live near the Stella Walk shooting are expressing extreme fear, according to CBC News reporter Sean Kavanagh. One woman said she will keep her children inside until police make an arrest, he said. Others said they are afraid the shootings may be tied to gang activity. With files from the CBC's Gosia Sawicka and Sean Kavanagh ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2010 14:20:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Bruce Mills Subject: CTV - Quebec's right wing gathers at 'historic' meeting http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/Politics/20101023/quebec-right-101023/ Quebec's right wing gathers at 'historic' meeting The Canadian Press Updated: Sat. Oct. 23 2010 6:04 PM ET QUEBEC - Quebec's version of the right-wing U.S. Tea Party was brewing a fresh approach to political thinking as it gathered in the provincial capital on Saturday. More than 400 people are attending the meeting organized by the new political movement Reseau Liberte-Quebec. Maxime Bernier, who was a minister in Prime Minister Stephen Harper's cabinet, said the meeting marks a turning point in Quebec's history. "If you look in the past what we had in Quebec, (was) a lot of people who believe in socialism, who believe in big government," he said. "And now you have people who believe in less government, who believe in more freedom, and who think we have too much government on our back and too much government in our pocket." Though the new party does not yet have a platform or a name, it has already declared its intention to set aside the issue of Quebec separation to focus on economic matters. A poll released last week suggested the hypothetical new party would beat both the Liberals and the Parti Quebecois. Johanne Marcotte, co-founder of Reseau Liberte-Quebec, said it's time to do away with the "interventionist" style of government espoused by both the Parti Quebecois and the ruling Liberals. "More and more of the population wants freedom of choice," she said. Quebec has become bogged down by powerful unions and a culture of dependency on the state, she said. Tasha Kheiridden and Ezra Levant are among the conservative analysts and commentators at the event. Kory Teneycke, the former spokesman for Prime Minister Stephen Harper, was scheduled to appear but had to bow out. 2010 CTVglobemedia All Rights Reserved. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2010 14:28:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Bruce Mills Subject: Saskatoon S-P - Firearm charges laid after parking incident http://www.thestarphoenix.com/news/Firearm+charges+laid+after+parking+incident/3716382/story.html Firearm charges laid after parking incident The StarPhoenix October 23, 2010 An argument about parking in downtown Saskatoon led to firearms charges against a city man Friday, Saskatoon police say. A 57-year-old Saskatoon man is facing a charge of possession of a dangerous weapon and possession of a prohibited weapon. At about 2:30 p.m. Friday, a man was arguing with construction workers on the 500 block of Second Avenue North when the workers noticed a gun in the man's car, police say. The man made no threats, but police were called out of concern for public safety. The weapon was a long-barrel firearm, police say. The accused appeared before a justice of peace Friday. The investigation continues. Copyright (c) The StarPhoenix ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2010 14:36:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Bruce Mills Subject: TorStar - Man delivering pizza when killed by firearm: police http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/880363--man-delivering-pizza-when-killed-by-firearm-police Man delivering pizza when killed by firearm: police October 24, 2010 Michael Tutton HALIFAX - 27-year-old Nova Scotia man was shot and killed at a city apartment building as he attempted to deliver a pizza on Saturday night, says a spokesman for the Halifax police. Const. Brian Palmeter said a murder investigation has been launched into the death of Chad Smith, of Windsor Junction, N.S. The police officer said investigators are troubled by the incident, in part because they've found no evidence so far that the shooter knew the man dropping off the food. "Most homicides... are connected to people with high-risk lifestyles. But in this case our early investigation seems to suggest this might not be the case. If this turns out to be a random incident it's that much more concerning and something we'll have to put our efforts behind in an effort to solve," said the constable. "It's shocking and it shakes the community and its sense of security. We want to assure people that we're taking this seriously." The police spokesman, who had been briefed by investigators, said that Smith had entered the apartment block with his delivery when he ran into someone with a gun. "He had arrived at the building for the purpose of making the delivery and in the process of going to the location where he was supposed to make the delivery he was shot. It was an outdoor, common area outside of the building and in proximity to a number of different units." Smith was found bleeding outside the building, but by the time police arrived the pizza delivery man was dead. "At this time we don't know the motive behind this. We certainly know he was making a pizza delivery, but we don't know what the possible motive was," said Palmeter. There is also no description of the suspects, nor was there an indicator of what kind of firearm was used. Police were interviewing people in the area known as Highfield Park, asking if they'd seen anybody fleeing from the area. The building is just metres away from Jason McCullough park, which is named after a 19-year-old who was shot to death while walking through the area in 1999. His murder has never been solved, and remains one of the city's most prominent cold cases. The death is also the city's second murder investigation in less than two weeks, and the ninth murder case this year. Another young man was shot and killed in Halifax on Oct. 16 when a masked man entered his Mulgrave Park home. Donald (Ducky) Jermaine Stevenson, 21, was shot in front of family members and pronounced dead at the scene. lettertoed@thestar.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2010 14:40:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Bruce Mills Subject: TorStar - Man arrested after Parkdale shooting http://www.thestar.com/news/crime/article/879965--man-arrested-after-parkdale-shooting Man arrested after Parkdale shooting October 22, 2010 Gloria Er-Chua A 19-year-old man has been arrested in connection with a shooting in the King St. W. and Dufferin St. area last Saturday. Police said a man and a woman were walking on Tyndall Ave. on Oct. 16 around 5:45 p.m. when the armed suspect approached them. There was a short argument before the man and woman began running northbound on Tyndall Ave. The suspect allegedly fired several shots, striking the 19-year-old man's shoulder and grazing the 26-year-old woman's thigh. Police arrested the suspect at a home near Redfox Rd. and Reindeer Dr. in Mississauga on Wednesday. A loaded semi-automatic gun was found on scene. Police have yet to confirm whether the weapon was used in the shooting. Llamall Weeden is facing multiple charges, including two counts of attempted murder while using a firearm. Also charged is Jerome Parchment, 21, for firearm possession-related offences. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2010 21:00:38 -0400 From: Jules Sobrian Subject: Social engineering Subject: Re: CTV - Quebec's right wing gathers at 'historic' meeting - --- On Sun, 10/24/10, Bruce Mills wrote: > http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/Politics/20101023/quebec-right-101023/ > > Quebec's right wing gathers at 'historic' meeting > > The Canadian Press > Updated: Sat. Oct. 23 2010 6:04 PM ET > > QUEBEC - Quebec's version of the right-wing U.S. Tea Party > was brewing a > fresh approach to political thinking as it gathered in the > provincial > capital on Saturday. I wonder what would happen if the Wildrose Party and these guys joined forces... Yours in TYRANNY! Bruce ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2010 22:55:02 -0700 (PDT) From: "bletchleypark@rogers.com" Subject: Re: CTV - Quebec's right wing gathers at 'historic' meeting The Genesis of a just and unified nation. ________________________________ From: Bruce Mills To: cdn-firearms@scorpion.bogend.ca Sent: Mon, October 25, 2010 12:25:08 AM Subject: Re: CTV - Quebec's right wing gathers at 'historic' meeting - --- On Sun, 10/24/10, Bruce Mills wrote: > http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/Politics/20101023/quebec-right-101023/ > > Quebec's right wing gathers at 'historic' meeting > > The Canadian Press > Updated: Sat. Oct. 23 2010 6:04 PM ET > > QUEBEC - Quebec's version of the right-wing U.S. Tea Party > was brewing a > fresh approach to political thinking as it gathered in the > provincial > capital on Saturday. I wonder what would happen if the Wildrose Party and these guys joined forces... Yours in TYRANNY! Bruce ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2010 05:56:15 -0700 From: "Jim Pook" Subject: RE: Colonel Williams Ed: You may be quite right - I suspect that Williams wanted to get caught, and for all the reasons you state. I think that he may have been a basically decent man whose impulses took over. He was able to control it until he was in his 40's - very unusual - it usually hits them in their late teens and early 20's. Ted Bundy also may have wanted to get caught. Before he broke out of jail in Colorado, he asked one of the police investigators where they had the death penalty. He was told Florida. When he broke out, he headed straight to Florida where he got caught again and died in the electric chair. The interesting thing about Williams was his shoes - Why would he wear the same shoes to the police interview - he must have know that he left prints outside the house. Maybe if he'd been infantry instead of airforce, he might have clued in on that little detail. When Richard Ramirez, AKA the Night Stalker was hunting, the news media announced that he was wearing a special Nike Runner, only a few were sold in his area in the size he wore (12 or 14 as I recall). Within hours of him hearing that, he dropped them off of the Golden Gate Bridge, never to be seen again. Jim Pook Vancouver Island-North - -----Original Message----- From: owner-cdn-firearms@scorpion.bogend.ca [mailto:owner-cdn-firearms@scorpion.bogend.ca] On Behalf Of Ed Sieb Jim, I'm certainly no expert in criminology, sexual psychopathology, or anything else in that field, but I'm quite convinced that Williams "mistakes" were in fact semi-intentional. He wanted to get caught. A sexual compulsion is difficult, if not impossible to control. He knew he had one and his rank, social position, upbringing, education and intelligence all conspired to work against his compulsion. In the end, one part of him wanted to stop, but couldn't. Thus, he semi-intentionally trapped himself. You're quite correct, he is neither Olsen, nor Picton. Ed Sieb - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2010 08:43:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark L Horstead Subject: RE: Prisoner Williams - --- On Sun, 10/24/10, Ed Sieb wrote: > From: Ed Sieb > Subject: RE: Colonel Williams > To: cdn-firearms@scorpion.bogend.ca > Date: Sunday, October 24, 2010, 5:05 PM >=20 > Jim, >=20 > I'm certainly no expert in criminology,=A0 sexual > psychopathology,=A0 or > anything else in that > field, but I'm quite convinced that Williams=A0 > "mistakes" were in fact > semi-intentional. He > wanted to get caught. Or, more likely in my view given the progress of the non-deviant side of his life prior to that, was arrogant and over-confident to the point where he believed that he could outwit the police and did not believe that he would be caught. In any case, he is no longer a Colonel, just another convict. 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