From: owner-cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca (Cdn-Firearms Digest) To: cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Subject: Cdn-Firearms Digest V15 #15 Reply-To: cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Sender: owner-cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Errors-To: owner-cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Precedence: normal Cdn-Firearms Digest Saturday, March 24 2012 Volume 15 : Number 015 In this issue: No more arms for atrocities: Time for a bullet proof arms ... IANSA - The Arms Trade Treaty Monty Robinson, RCMP Officer In Dziekanski Taser Death ... CANADIAN POLICY POSITION: Arms Control and Disarmament Here's the real problem with our justice system Trayvon Martin, and the backlash against the backlash Re: CFAC Meeting in Ottawa 25 March Facts and fictions of the Florida teen's shooting Ian Thompson Surveillance camera video of fire bomb attack ... Coyotes, wolves destroy livestock, wreak havoc on farms ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, March 24, 2012 8:33 am From: "Dennis R. Young" Subject: No more arms for atrocities: Time for a bullet proof arms ... ... trade treaty AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL - MARCH 21, 2012 No more arms for atrocities: Time for a bullet proof arms trade treaty http://www.amnesty.org/en/appeals-for-action/no-more-arms-for-atrocities-time-for-a-bullet-proof-arms-trade-treaty Millions of people are being killed, injured, raped, repressed and forced to flee their homes every year. Health, education and other services are being denied and livelihoods destroyed. The world needs a strong Arms Trade Treaty that will prevent arms transfers if they are likely to contribute directly to serious human rights abuses, war crimes or poverty. The Treaty must cover all conventional arms including ammunition. I call on every government to secure an ATT that effectively prevents arms from fuelling such atrocities and abuses. 369 ACTIONS TAKEN Tell the world - No more arms for atrocities: Time for a bullet proof arms trade treaty The irresponsible and poorly regulated arms trade fuels serious human rights abuses, armed violence, poverty and conflict around the world. We could change that now with an Arms Trade Treaty (ATT). This global appeal is a joint action from Amnesty International in partnership with Control Arms, IANSA and ITUC. The permanent URL for this action is http://www.amnesty.org/en/appeals-for-action/no-more-arms-for-atrocities-time-for-a-bullet-proof-arms-trade-treaty ------------------------------ Date: Sat, March 24, 2012 8:56 am From: "Dennis R. Young" Subject: IANSA - The Arms Trade Treaty IANSA - THE GLOBAL MOVEMENT AGAINST GUN VIOLENCE The Arms Trade Treaty http://www.iansa.org/campaign/arms-trade-treaty Every day thousands of people are killed, injured, raped, and forced to flee from their homes as a result of the poorly regulated global arms trade. Conventional weapons facilitate these abuses, and in response IANSA, as part of the Control Arms alliance, is calling for a bulletproof Arms Trade Treaty (ATT): a global, legally binding agreement that will better control irresponsible international transfers of conventional weapons and munitions. The ATT will be negotiated in July 2012 and IANSA aims to ensure that it has the means to reduce levels of gun violence and decrease the proliferation of small arms and light weapons. This can be achieved by the inclusion of strong and relevant provisions in the Treaty text, and including small arms and light weapons and related ammunition within the scope of the Treaty. It is also essential that measures to prevent gender based violence and sexual violence against women are part of the ATT. To protect women's rights, the relevant binding international instruments covering gender based violence, including rape and sexual violence, must be applied in arms transfer decisions. To read more click here: http://www.iansa-women.org/sites/default/files/ATT_Prepcom_3_iansa_wn_pp_130711.pdf To see a more detailed description of how SALW (Small Arms and Light Weapons) and related ammunition should be included in the ATT click here" http://www.iansa.org/system/files/IANSA%20ATT-SALW%20A4%20%282%29.pdf ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2012 09:09:14 -0600 From: "Joe Gingrich" Subject: Monty Robinson, RCMP Officer In Dziekanski Taser Death ... ... Guilty of Obstruction Of Justice In Unrelated Case http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2012/03/23/dziekanski-rcmp-guilty-obstruction_n_1375804.html Monty Robinson, RCMP Officer In Dziekanski Taser Death Guilty of Obstruction Of Justice In Unrelated Case Canadian Press 03/23/2012 NEW WESTMINSTER, B.C. - The senior Mountie in the Robert Dziekanski Taser incident, Cpl. Monty Robinson, has been found guilty of obstruction of justice in connection with an unrelated crash that killed a motorcyclist. Robinson was behind the wheel when he struck and killed a motorcyclist in Delta, B.C., in October 2008 while on the way home from a Halloween party with his children, where he admitted to drinking five beers. Robinson told the judge that immediately after the crash, he walked his kids home and then pounded back alcohol to calm his nerves before returning to tell an investigating officer he was the driver. Judge Janice Dillon of B.C. Supreme Court says Robinson knew his actions would interfere with the police investigation into the crash, and she concluded Robinson drew on his police training in an attempt to beat the breathalyzer. The Crown argued at trial Robinson was a high-ranking officer who knew he could escape a charge of drinking and driving by consuming alcohol before being tested. The crash that killed 21-year-old Orion Hutchinson occurred a year after Robinson was the lead officer of a group of Mounties who were called to account after the Polish immigrant died when he was jolted a Taser at Vancouver's airport. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, March 24, 2012 9:11 am From: "Dennis R. Young" Subject: CANADIAN POLICY POSITION: Arms Control and Disarmament PERMANENT MISSION OF CANADA TO THE UNITED NATIONS CANADIAN POLICY POSITIONS Non-Proliferation, Arms Control and Disarmament http://www.canadainternational.gc.ca/prmny-mponu/canada_un-canada_onu/positions-orientations/peace-paix/disarmament-desarmement.aspx?lang=eng&view=d ARMS CONTROL Arms control strives to limit to the use of existing conventional and non-conventional weapons by states as well as non-state actors such as terrorists or members of criminal organizations. Canada works through the UN system to ensure that use of these weapons is effectively controlled. The illicit trade in small arms and light weapons has had a devastating impact on people throughout the world. There are currently in excess of 600 million small arms and light weapons in circulation. Small arms and light weapons alone are instrumental in the deaths of more than 350,000 people a year. The proliferation and misuse of small arms pose a serious threat to human security. Combating the illicit trade in small arms effectively requires a comprehensive approach which focuses primarily on the humanitarian impact of the proliferation and misuse of small arms in terms of conflict prevention and the protection of civilians, while recognizing the existing and legitimate interests of firearms owners, producers, brokers, and retailers. Canada supports full implementation of the UN Programme of Action to Prevent, Combat and Eradicate the Illicit Trade in Small Arms and Light Weapons in All Its Aspects and remains active at the international, regional and sub-regional levels to tackle the problems stemming from the proliferation, excessive accumulation and misuse of small arms. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, March 24, 2012 10:09 am From: "Dennis R. Young" Subject: Here's the real problem with our justice system By Dan Gardner THE CALGARY HERALD - MARCH 24, 2012 Here's the real problem with our justice system By Dan Gardner, Ottawa Citizen March 24, 2012 9:26 AM http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/Here+real+problem+with+justice+system/6353448/story.html I understand why people are furious at the two-year sentence imposed on Graham James, but all the angry shouting and demands for tougher punishments won't do anything to correct the very real problems with criminal sentencing in Canada. It could even make those problems a little worse. Start with that sentence. Most people think it's unjust. I suspect they're right, although I'd hesitate to form an opinion without knowing a lot more about the case than I do. But people also think the James sentence demonstrates that the justice system is far too soft. And that is wrong. Why? Because for the James sentence to say something about criminal justice in general, it can't be an aberration. It has to be typical. And we don't know if it's typical. It may be. Or it may not. The simple truth is: We don't know. Yes, pundits cite other cases and sentences. The judge undoubtedly considered some, too. But that is analysis by anecdote and impression, which is a very bad idea. There's only one way to really know what a typical sentence is in a case like this: Consult a comprehensive, publicly available, database of sentences. There is no such database. "An interested, intelligent member of the public or an interested, intelligent judge cannot, apparently, get systematic information about what is happening in Canada's courts," University of Toronto criminologist Tony Doob wrote last year in the Canadian Journal of Criminology and Criminal Justice. In the 1980s, Doob sat on the Canadian Sentencing Commission, which reviewed every aspect of criminal sentencing. The commission's 1987 report was scathing. Doob is just as scathing today. Because nothing has changed. A basic principle of justice is that similar crimes should be punished similarly, the commission noted, but that requires a proper database. And there wasn't a proper database. A quarter-century later, there still isn't. Of course, similar cases could still be punished similarly if the Criminal Code gave judges clear guidance on sentencing. But it didn't. A quarter-century later, it still doesn't. For most offences, the range of possible sentences is wide open. There is no minimum. And the maximums - typically two years, seven, 10, 14, or life - are often set absurdly high. A judge sentencing someone for breaking into a house can give him essentially nothing, or life in prison, or anything in between. The commission also condemned the Criminal Code's incoherence. Both manslaughter and breaking into a house, for example, are punishable by up to life in prison. Both sexual assault with a weapon and possession of counterfeit money are punishable by up to 14 years in prison. I doubt there is anyone in the country who thinks these are comparable crimes that should be punished comparably. And yet that's what the law says. And there are countless more examples like them. So how did that happen? Did Parliament really decide that manslaughter and break-and-enter are crimes of equal gravity? That possession of counterfeit money is as serious as sexual assault with a weapon? Of course not. Parliament doesn't review the Criminal Code to ensure its internal coherence. It just cranks out news laws - often in response to the latest headline - with little or no consideration of what's already there. This isn't a new problem, as the sentencing commission noted in 1987. Parliament has been operating this way since the Criminal Code was created in 1892, which is why the code was a big mess in 1987, and an even bigger mess today. The Sentencing Commission recommended sweeping change. First, wipe out all existing sentencing provisions. Next, state whether there will be a presumption of incarceration or not for each offence. Finally, for each offence where there is a presumption of incarceration, create a relatively narrow "presumptive range" for sentence lengths. These changes would ensure that similar cases would be treated similarly. But flexibility is also critical to ensure that unusual cases are not punished inappropriately. (This is the main reason why mandatory minimum sentences are a terrible idea.) So the commission recommended that judges be allowed to deviate from the presumptive range provided they explained why they were doing so. (The deviation and explanation could be appealed.) The sentencing commission also called for the creation of a permanent commission whose job would be to help create the new sentencing guidelines, to collect sentencing data, and to work with the House of Commons to ensure sentencing practices remained rational and just. The result would be a justice system that is transparent, coherent, predictable and accountable - four qualities sorely lacking in the status quo. Dan Gardner is a columnist with the Ottawa Citizen. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, March 24, 2012 10:15 am From: "Dennis R. Young" Subject: Trayvon Martin, and the backlash against the backlash by David Frum NATIONAL POST - FULL COMMENT - MARCH 24, 2012 David Frum: Trayvon Martin, and the backlash against the backlash By David Frum Mar 24, 2012 - 9:00 AM ET http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2012/03/24/david-frum-trayvon-martin-and-the-backlash-against-the-backlash/ Four years ago, black Americans mobilized to elect one of their own president of the United States. When asked, the overwhelming majority of black Americans still say they support Barack Obama. But the old enthusiasm has dwindled. The economic crisis of 2008 hit black America hard, and the recovery since 2009 has largely passed black America by. Black unemployment rates look like something out of the Great Depression: Almost half of young black men cannot find work. The cool, cerebral Obama does not much comfort or inspire those out of work, black or white. He is not an "I feel your pain" kind of politician. While nobody doubts that Obama will carry 90% or more of the black vote in November, a lot of people have wondered how high the black turnout will be. If dispirited black Americans stay home in large numbers, Obama's re-election challenge becomes that much greater. But what could possibly inspire them to the polls? The answer may have just arrived - in the tragic form of the killing of a teenaged boy, Trayvon Martin. Three weeks ago, young Martin was shot and killed by a neighbourhood watch volunteer in a gated community in the town of Sanford, Florida. Martin was black, the volunteer was of white-Hispanic background. Martin was unarmed. He was 100 pounds lighter than his killer. At the time of the shooting, he was walking back to the house in which he was staying, talking on his cellphone, and carrying a bag of candy he had just bought at a nearby store. The more details emerge, the more it looks as if Martin was hunted and killed by a trigger-happy bully. Yet local police have not arrested the killer. No charges have been laid. The killer claimed to have acted in self-defence, and despite many problems in his story - including the killer's own violent history - the police opted to believe him. Like nothing else since 2009, the Trayvon Martin case has jolted black America. Tens of thousands of people have signed digital petitions demanding a federal investigation. Demonstrations have begun to take place in Florida and elsewhere. A community that has had much reason since 2009 to ask, "Why bother with politics?" suddenly has found an answer. Martin's killer, George Zimmerman, could plead self-defence because of Florida's peculiar gun laws. Under the old law inherited by the English-speaking world, an armed man has a "duty to retreat." Not in Florida. In 2005, Florida adopted what's called a "stand your ground" law. These laws - increasingly common in southern states - permit an armed man to shoot in self-defence even if he could have avoided the fight without shooting. "Stand your ground" laws become especially lethal when combined with other new laws that grant people in the majority of U.S. states the right to carry weapons in public, and even concealed weapons. U.S. gun laws have become more permissive even as U.S. crime rates have sharply declined. Why? You can read the answer on the past four years' worth of front pages on the hugely popular website, the Drudge Report. Month in, month out, Drudge spotlights gruesome black-on-white crimes. In a country of 300 million people, there are always examples. These same stories circulate in e-mail chains - and often become the focus of local right-wing talk-radio shows. The U.S. journalist Mickey Kaus calls it "under-news": news that never quite emerges into the national media, but that shapes the consciousness of millions of people. And what is being shaped is a conviction among many white people - especially fearful elderly whites in the South - that the Obama presidency has licensed a rampage of black-on-white violence. That's not what the statistics say. But as Stephen Colbert would say: statistics are elitist. As is so often the case, Rush Limbaugh gave these new racial fears their most explicit voice. In September 2009, after Drudge publicized an assault on an Illinois school bus, Limbaugh had this to say: "It's Obama's America, is it not? Obama's America - white kids getting beat up on school buses now." This mood of "backlash" has dominated U.S. politics since 2009 - until now. Now the "backlash" has created an apparent martyr in Trayvon Martin. And it is in Martin's name that the backlash against the backlash will be launched and be heard. You think the 2012 election will be about economics? Think again. National Post ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2012 10:53:42 -0600 From: Edward Hudson Subject: Re: CFAC Meeting in Ottawa 25 March Canadian Firearms Advisory Committee Meeting Record of Discussion August 24, 2006 11:00 A.M., EST by teleconference In Attendance Chair: Diane MacLaren, Assistant Deputy Minister Dr. Mike Ackermann, Nova Scotia: mikeack@ns.sympatico.ca Linda Baggaley Helen Banulescu Joel Bernard Tony Bernardo, CSSA/CILA: abernardo343@rogers.com Christina Cefaloni Tim Cogan Alain Cossette Louis D'Amour Greg Farrant, OFAH Gerry Gamble, TSCON Murray Grismer, Saskatoon Police Services: thegrizz@yourlink.ca Bob Head Roland Nanel Suzing Hum Dr. Gary Mauser, Simon Fraser Univ: mauser@sfu.ca David Pimm Colleen Pulcine Roy Rempel (Fed??) Linda Thom Steve Torino, Montreal (?) Regrets John Gayder: Niagara Police TSCON http://www.canfirearms.ca/archives/text/v10n300-399/v10n312.txt On 23-Mar-12, at 8:40 AM, 10x@telus.net wrote: > At 08:32 PM 22/03/2012 -0600, you wrote: >> The Canadian Firearms Advisory Committee meets in Ottawa on/or about >> 25 March 2012. >> >> Now that we have elected a 'stable, majority Conservative Government' >> perhaps it is time we tell them how we feel about their endorsing >> Licencing. >> >> Sincerely, >> >> Eduardo > > Do you have a list of the Current CFAC advisory meeting members and > a means to send them information? > > I CAN NOT STRESS HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO MAKE THE C.P.C. GOVERNMENT > AWARE OF THE CRIMINAL LIABLITIES OF LICENSING. > > The passage of C-19 may take the momentum and urgency out the firearms > issue in Canada as most of the uninformed folks think that > C-19 rescinds the need to have a Firearms License (P.A.L.). > > Currently the R.C.M.P. are seizing firearms and laying charges under > section 91 of the Criminal code of Canada. Charges under section 91 > are dropped in exchange for a firearms prohibition and forfeit the > firearms to the crown for destruction. > At least that is how it is quietly coming down in North Western > Alberta. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, March 24, 2012 10:56 am From: "Dennis R. Young" Subject: Facts and fictions of the Florida teen's shooting THE VANCOUVER SUN - MARCH 24, 2012 The myths and half truths of the Trayvon Martin case A look into the facts and fictions of the Florida teen's shooting By Rene Stutzman, McClatchy-Tribune Information Services http://www.vancouversun.com/news/myths+half+truths+Trayvon+Martin+case/6351977/story.html SANFORD, Fla. - There is a great deal of misinformation surrounding the Trayvon Martin shooting. Here are some of the most prominent misunderstandings: - -Cops returned the gun to shooter George Zimmerman. Untrue, according to police. Sanford Officer Tim Smith handcuffed Zimmerman, and then pulled from a holster in Zimmerman's waistband the black Kel Tec 9 mm PF9, a semiautomatic. The gun is now in the possession of authorities, officially part of the evidence in the case.Zimmerman, though, still has a valid concealed-weapons permit. - -Cops believed Zimmerman had a "squeaky clean" criminal record. Untrue, according to Sanford City Manager Norton Bonaparte Jr. During an early meeting with Trayvon's father, a Sanford police investigator told him Zimmerman described himself as being "squeaky clean." Trayvon's father "may have misconstrued" that the investigator was merely relaying Zimmerman's claim, Bonaparte Jr. wrote in a public statement. In reality, Zimmerman had been arrested in 2005 at a UCF-area bar and charged with resisting arrest without violence. He completed a pretrial-diversion program, meaning the case was officially dropped, and he wound up with no conviction on his record. It's not clear when, but police did check Zimmerman's criminal record and know about that arrest. - -The cops tested Trayvon for drugs but not Zimmerman. True, according to authorities. Trayvon underwent an autopsy, the same as in every other suspicious death in Florida, and as part of that, was tested for drugs. Zimmerman was not tested because he was not arrested. - -Sanford cops usually call a prosecutor to the scene of a homicide but did not that night. True, according to police and the State Attorney's Office in Seminole-Brevard. Police talked to a prosecutor by phone that night, but she did not go to the scene. Based on the evidence they gathered that night, police believed they did not have enough evidence to arrest Zimmerman on a manslaughter charge because of his account of what happened and claim of self-defense. - -Zimmerman fired twice, a warning shot and a kill shot. Untrue, according to several witnesses and law enforcement. Two loud bangs can be heard on one 911 call, and family attorneys said last week that that was evidence of two shots, but several witnesses who've spoken publicly about what they heard all describe a single shot. And a source close to the investigation told The Orlando Sentinel just one shot was fired from Zimmerman's gun. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, March 24, 2012 12:03 pm From: "todd rudderham" Subject: Ian Thompson Surveillance camera video of fire bomb attack ... ... of his home Story of his case http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/01/31/firebombs-left-no-choice-homeowner-tells-gun-trial/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyiqCkgGDCQ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, March 24, 2012 12:15 pm From: "Dennis R. Young" Subject: Coyotes, wolves destroy livestock, wreak havoc on farms WINNIPEG FREE PRESS - MARCH 24, 2012 Coyotes, wolves destroy livestock, wreak havoc on farms By: Bill Redekop / Open Road http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/local/predators-and-the---hunter-144073056.html BIRD RIVER -- Shooting 101 coyotes last year with a sniper rifle sounds like a lot. Many people might think the 62 coyotes Ron Alexander has shot so far this year is excessive and cruel. But there's a context. We are in the midst of an explosion in the coyote and wolf populations. The canine predators are encroaching on built-up areas -- remember the coyote that ran loose in a downtown Winnipeg parkade this week - -- and have even threatened people. They are destroying livestock. The number of livestock killed has rocketed to 466 in 2010, from 115 in 2003. Wolves have also destroyed pets belonging to cottagers in Lake of the Woods and in Kenora. And then look at how many coyotes were killed in Saskatchewan after it introduced a $20 bounty per head in 2010 to control population. Almost 71,000 coyotes were destroyed in a single year. Alexander would be called a bounty hunter except there is no bounty on coyotes in Manitoba like there is in Saskatchewan. The outdoorsman performs the tasks because he is a crack marksman -- he drops coyotes from 300 to 500 metres away, and these are moving targets (he has a rangefinder on his rifle that tells him the target distance) -- and he's got time on his hands since he retired. "I put 20-year-olds to bed. I've got the energy they don't have," said Alexander, 67. As a lifelong trapper, Alexander can legally shoot coyotes as long as property owners give him permission. He uses the call of a distressed rabbit and stays downwind. "If coyotes see the truck, even half a mile down the road, it's over. They're gone. I put white on to blend in with the snow. If it's deep snow, I put on snowshoes." He has shot a coyote at 580 metres. Alexander provides a valuable service, said Roy Nawrocki, a farmer north of Beausejour. "We've never had coyotes like this before," he said. The prairie chicken population has been wiped out in the area by coyotes, he said. On the east side of Lake Winnipeg, wolves are blamed for the disappearance of the moose. Similar stories are told across the province. Alexander was a guide and then outfitter for 28 years combined. He has been a trapper for even longer. But he doesn't have the rural upbringing you'd expect. He grew up in Winnipeg's West End. He was in his 20s when he had a hair-brained idea to try to live off the land on a property along Bird River, north of Lac du Bonnet. He hunted, fished and trapped, while his wife -- they've been married 47 years now and Alexander calls himself a lucky man -- worked a regular job. He became so good at it he was soon working as a hunting guide. Then, in 1994, he bought a patch of land and built his own log resort cabin out of pine logs imported from 100 Mile House in British Columbia and became an outfitter. The resort log cabin on the Bird River is amazing. It is a two-storey, 6,900-square-foot building that has 14 bedrooms, six bathrooms, a conference room, a full basement with a pool table and sauna that is currently on sale for about $1.7 million. Alexander skins some of his coyotes and makes hats from the leather but he sells most of them. This year, he sold 53 carcasses to a Hutterite colony that skins them, stretches and dries the hides and sells them at a fur auction. The returns for coyotes or wolf hides are not great. Alexander said he thinks the provincial government needs to do more to control the predators, such as introduce a bounty the way Saskatchewan did. However, the province has made it legal for people with big-game hunting licences for deer or moose to also take down one coyote. It has also extended the wolf-hunting season. Alexander doesn't think that's enough. "Coyotes are the most adaptable creatures on the planet," Alexander said. Coyotes have also killed calves on Mitcheal and Liz Ledarney's farm near Tyndall. Six coyotes also charged their pet dogs. Mitcheal shot three coyotes in their yard late last year. "You talk to a few neighbours and they all tell the same story," said Liz. She approves of Alexander's service but said the province has to do more. "You talk to someone in the city and they'll say nature will take care of itself. That's possibly true in the wilderness without humans but there are too many people here," especially farmers, for the coyotes to live off, she said. The coyote and wolf populations have increased due to the huge deer populations of the recent past. Predator populations usually drop a year or two after the prey population drops, Manitoba Conservation said. bill.redekop@freepress.mb.ca ------------------------------ End of Cdn-Firearms Digest V15 #15 ********************************** Submissions: mailto:cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Mailing List Commands: mailto:majordomo@scorpion.bogend.ca Moderator's email: mailto:owner-cdn-firearms@scorpion.bogend.ca List owner: mailto:owner-cdn-firearms@scorpion.bogend.ca FAQ list: http://www.canfirearms/Skeeter/Faq/cfd-faq1.html Web Site: http://www.canfirearms.ca CFDigest Archives: http://www.canfirearms.ca/archives To unsubscribe from _all_ the lists, put the next four lines in a message and mailto:majordomo@scorpion.bogend.ca unsubscribe cdn-firearms-digest unsubscribe cdn-firearms-chat unsubscribe cdn-firearms end (To subscribe, use "subscribe" instead of "unsubscribe".)