From: owner-cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca (Cdn-Firearms Digest) To: cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Subject: Cdn-Firearms Digest V15 #39 Reply-To: cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Sender: owner-cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Errors-To: owner-cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Precedence: normal Cdn-Firearms Digest Sunday, April 8 2012 Volume 15 : Number 039 In this issue: Long-Gun Owners Want More After Registry is Scrapped Re: firearms/weapons Pax Christi International : An Ethical Approach to an ATT. As civilian disarmament takes place, UN urges respect for ... re: JPFO "Gun Goody" Cookie Cutters Canadian Rights and Freedom Bulletin #79 - April 7, 2012 Gun collector released Re: As civilian disarmament takes place, UN urges respect for ... Firearm regulations re: Ammunition storage Re:"Mexico wants U.S. to ban semi-automatic weapons" Dennis posted: "Mark Steyn-Australian Freedom of Speech Tour 2012" A quote regarding the status of the Supreme Court Re: Supreme Court gives police leeway in home searches ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, April 6, 2012 10:15 pm From: "Dennis R. Young" Subject: Long-Gun Owners Want More After Registry is Scrapped Long-Gun Owners Want More After Registry is Scrapped By Julie Larson, Prince George, B.C. - Thursday, April 5, 2012 - 5:16 PM http://hqprincegeorge.com/news/local/news/Local/12/04/5/Long-Gun-Owners-Want-More-After-Registry-is-Scrapped/ The long-gun registry act has been officially scrapped in Canada, after it received royal assent today. Although long-gun owners won't have to register their firearms anymore, National Firearms Association President Sheldon Clare says there's a long way to go. "I think it's a good first step to sorting out a lot of the major problems that still remain in the firearms act, but it's not really going to have a major effect on a lot of people. It's a good first step, and it's the fulfillment of part of a promise, and we're looking forward to seeing much more happen." Clare says he wants to see the law requiring someone to have a firearms licence be abolished, as he says putting a piece of paper beside a firearm has never had anything to do with preventing bad activity. - ------------------------------------ CANADA'S NATIONAL FIREARMS ASSOCIATION MEDIA RELEASE - APRIL 5, 2012 Bill C-19 is law - Canada's Long Gun Registration Ends Bill C-19, the Conservative Government's bill ending the registration of non-restricted long guns was passed by the Canadian Senate Wednesday by a vote of 50 to 27. Two Liberal Senators voted for Bill C-19, one Progressive Conservative Senator voted against it. On Thursday April 5, 2012, Bill C-19 was signed by Governor General David Johnston and received Royal Assent. Now the bill is law and will need to be enacted. The Quebec government has filed an injunction to obtain the federal registration records to set up its own registration system. However, despite what Quebec does, Canada's long experiment with universal firearms registration has ended. Speaking from Prince George, NFA President Sheldon Clare pointed out, "When the Liberal's gun control legislation Bill C-68 was first introduced in 1995, Canada's National Firearms Association warned that government that it was making a serious mistake. It was clear that the legislation would be rejected and resisted by Canadians, that it could not be implemented for the ridiculously low cost estimates advertised by the Liberals, and that its firearms program - which included the licensing of all owners and the registration of all firearms - was destined to be a failure. This failure was confirmed by the Auditor General of Canada's report on the Canadian Firearms Program in 2002 which found that the Canadian Firearms Program was 500% over budget and still not fully implemented. Still, that government persisted with its doomed firearms program despite the national outrage and controversy over its assault on Canadian rights and our country's cultural tradition of firearms ownership. Successive Liberal governments championed this failed anti-freedom program right until their defeat in 2006. The Conservative Party of Canada made and campaigned on a policy of firearms law reform from its inception, and was elected in 2006, and re-elected in 2008 and 2011 based on this long standing policy and election promise. Conservative MPs Garry Breitkreuz and Candice Hoeppner deserve special recognition for their efforts to pursue firearms law reform over many years. The ending of long gun registration lays good ground work and is a positive first step in much needed and long overdue firearms law reform in Canada, but the 1995 Liberal C68 Firearms Act remains largely intact and is still the law of Canada. Today, this majority Conservative Government has delivered the first step towards keeping its promise to repeal Bill C-68 as part of a comprehensive firearms law reform program. As long as the Liberal Firearms Act remains law, the freedoms, rights, and property of all Canadians remains at risk. Fundamental firearms law reform will not have been achieved until the Government of Canada replaces the 1995 Liberal C68 Firearms Act with new legislation that respects the rights and property of ordinary Canadians. Firearms laws have often been sold under the guise of public safety when in fact these laws are merely a means to limit hard fought freedoms. Neither the firearm registration system nor the licensing program have ever truly been about saving any lives. These laws have really been about trying to change Canadian firearms culture. Canada's National Firearms Association and the firearms community of Canada celebrate this legislative affirmation of long time Conservative policy, and look forward to working with this government in the overhaul of all of Canada's broken and failed firearms control system. At over 50,000 members, Canada's National Firearms Association is this country's largest advocacy organization promoting the rights and freedoms of all responsible firearm owners and users. For more information contact: Blair Hagen, Executive VP Communications, 604-753-8682 Blair@nfa.ca Sheldon Clare, President, 250-981-1841 Sheldon@nfa.ca Canada's NFA toll-free number - 1-877-818-0393 NFA Website: www.nfa.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2012 08:08:18 -0400 From: Norman Lapierre Subject: Re: firearms/weapons Well Barry, I for one, do not submit to intimidation. I don't mince my words and I will oppose anyone who tries to usurp me. The criminal code is "criminal"... so I guess it is aptly named. Using the same argument, I suppose I should be added to the list of known "sex offenders" as I possess the equipment necessary to commit sexual assault. From what I hear, the RCMP want to re-define the word "variant" to include any firearm that fires a projectile or goes *bang*. This would make your 410 single shot Cooey a variant of the AK-47. Norman Lapierre norman.lapierre2@gmail.com On 2012-04-06, at 11:52 AM, Barry Snow wrote: > it was said > > "Don't you just love it when they use terms like "STASH" and "WEAPONS"? > They should have their tongues surgically removed to prevent them from > repeating such slanderous phrases. > I don't own any WEAPONS, I own FIREARMS. > > [rant off] > > Norman Lapierre" > be careful what you say to police or customs. You may get charged with > hindering investigation. YOUR definition does not matter since the > criminal code was amended in 1995 . Under definitions it says weapons > anything used as a weapon AND specifically, firearms are weapons. > > ALL firearms are weapons whether or not they have been used as such by > definitions. Same reason an AK22 is a variant of an AK47. Cause it is > defined as such, NOT designed as such > > Barry ------------------------------ Date: Sat, April 7, 2012 9:11 am From: "Dennis R. Young" Subject: Pax Christi International : An Ethical Approach to an ATT. PAX CHRISTI INTERNATIONAL - APRIL 2, 2012 Swallowing the Bullet - An Ethical Approach to an Arms Trade Treaty. (02/04/2012) http://www.paxchristi.net/international/eng/news.php?id=1357&wat=show As we approach the final negotiations in July 2012, campaigners worldwide are calling for a strong Arms Trade Treaty. Pax Christi International is joining the global campaign with a new Package Paper on the Arms Trade Treaty. The main focus of the paper is a faith and ethics based analysis of arms trade. The paper gives an overview of civil society recommendations for a strong and robust Arms Trade Treaty. It also offers a campaign guide with an overview of prominent campaigns and resources, which facilitate spreading the message that a strong Arms Trade Treaty is crucial. A letter concern, which is tailored to government representatives and decision-makers, is included in the paper. We have also provided edited pastoral and liturgical suggestions for the religious services during the week-end of the 17th of June 2012. With your help, we can bring the message for a strong and robust Arms Trade Treaty to churches, civil society and diplomats around the world! To read the package see attached in 2012-0114 http://archive.paxchristi.net/2012/2012-0114-en-gl-SD.pdf ------------------------------ Date: Sat, April 7, 2012 9:23 am From: "Dennis R. Young" Subject: As civilian disarmament takes place, UN urges respect for ... ... human rights UNITED NATIONS NEWS CENTRE - APRIL 6, 2012 South Sudan: As civilian disarmament takes place, UN urges respect for human rights http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=41726&Cr=jonglei&Cr1 The United Nations Mission in South Sudan (UNMISS) today urged South Sudanese security forces to ensure human rights are respected as the civilian disarmament process takes place in the country's Jonglei state. While the disarmament process has largely been peaceful and orderly, there have been reports of human rights violations in a number of disarmament locations, UNMISS said in a news release. "We are very concerned about these reports of human rights violations during disarmament and have conveyed this to the Government," said the Special Representative of the Secretary-General to South Sudan, Hilde F. Johnson. "We are nevertheless encouraged by the actions taken to make sure that the alleged perpetrators are held to account. UNMISS will be closely monitoring the follow-up to these incidents. Those responsible must be brought to justice," she said. The reported violations include alleged beatings, mistreatment and harassment of civilians when security forces have conducted house-to-house searches. There have also been cases of civilians arbitrarily detained, abuse in detention, and a few reported individual cases of sexual violence and individuals being shot. UNMISS stated that the reports indicate that the human rights violations seem to be individual and random cases rather than systematic, but stressed that conducting the disarmament process in a peaceful manner is vital to end the cycle of violence in Jonglei. "This is even more important now that the process moves into a more challenging phase," said Ms. Johnson. As part of its human rights and protection mandate, UNMISS is monitoring the disarmament process. So far, more than 27 monitoring missions have been conducted by UNMISS across the state. From its monitoring to date, UNMISS said that, overall, the process has largely been orderly. "I welcome the Government of South Sudan's leadership and effort in this regard, and call for continued restraint," Ms. Johnson said, adding that UNMISS will continue to closely monitor the situation. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2012 08:33:51 -0700 From: Todd Birch Subject: re: JPFO "Gun Goody" Cookie Cutters I sincerely hope that a horde of "Gun Goody" moppets invade their pre-school/elementary class rooms with these food items. They need to be instructed not to point or aim them, but merely consume them. However, this in unlikely to happen, kids being kids, making guns out of play dough and Leggo pieces. Speaking of such, what is the latest on the non-existent 'stick-man-with-a- gun' brouhaha? I hope that it hasn't been covered in bureaucratic white wash or settled out of court. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, April 7, 2012 9:54 am From: "Dennis & Hazel Young" Subject: Canadian Rights and Freedom Bulletin #79 - April 7, 2012 From: rightsnfreedoms@aweber.com On Behalf Of -- Rights & Freedoms Bulletin - -- Sent: April-07-12 3:20 AM Subject: [RFB] Katey Montague's decision for her future, and the future of the Rights and Freedom Bulletin Canadian Rights and Freedom Bulletin #79 is ready for you to download here. In this issue: • Time for a Changing of the Guard... Why I will no longer be writing for the Rights and Freedom Bulletin by Katey Montague • So long, Katey... and thanks for everything! (How the Bulletin moves forward from here...) • Firearms Act: Finally! The long gun registry is dead. (Offer not valid in Quebec) • Explosives Act: Changes put forward by bureaucrats will NOT go forward says Minister Toews • Property Rights: When Property Rights and your sense of entitlement clash, property rights win • Canada abolishes long gun registry by David Kopel • Police Misconduct: Arresting the restaurant owner for daring to defend himself and his property while the criminal goes free • Citizen Abuse of the Week: Toronto City Police use facebook profile to arrest the woman who wasn't even there Please read the latest Canadian Rights and Freedom Bulletin and let me know what you think! Yours in Liberty, Christopher di Armani PS. Please forward this message to anyone you think is interested in freedom! For more information please write: KM Publishing Inc. P.O. Box 21004 Chilliwack, BC V2P 8A9, CANADA To unsubscribe or change subscriber options visit: http://www.aweber.com/z/r/?jCxMTMycDLQsnKysbBxsnLRGtIzMnJzsHJyM ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2012 11:42:42 -0600 From: "Joe Gingrich" Subject: Gun collector released http://www.thestarphoenix.com/news/collector+released/6424098/story.html Gun collector released The StarPhoenix April 7, 2012 A 62-year-old man facing a raft of weapons-related charges after RCMP found a large cache of guns and knives on an acreage in the Aberdeen area is free on bail following a hearing in provincial court. Bruce Charles Lafreniere had been in custody since March 30, when officers executed a search warrant on the property and seized 27 long-barrel rifles, an AK-47 assault rifle, a sawed-off shotgun, 12 handguns, three swords, multiple knives and prohibited devices, along with reloading equipment and thousands of rounds of ammunition. Information presented at Lafreniere's bail hearing is subject to a publication ban. The terms of his bail include having no contact with his estranged wife except through a lawyer. Lafreniere is due back in court on April 12. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, April 7, 2012 2:49 pm From: "mikeack" Subject: Re: As civilian disarmament takes place, UN urges respect for ... ...human rights On 2012-04-07 12:23, Dennis R. Young wrote: > The reported violations include alleged beatings, mistreatment and > harassment of civilians when security forces have conducted house-to-house > searches. There have also been cases of civilians arbitrarily detained, > abuse in detention, and a few reported individual cases of sexual violence > and individuals being shot. Why in hell do they persist with stripping civilians of their only means of defense when this harbinger is so obviously before them? - -- M.J. Ackermann, MD (Mike) Rural Family Physician, Sherbrooke, NS mikeack@ns.sympatico.ca "Hope for the best, but be prepared for the worst". ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2012 15:08:52 -0700 (PDT) From: "bletchleypark@rogers.com" Subject: Firearm regulations re: Ammunition storage Can someone clarify the issue regarding ammunition storage?   Am I under the mistaken impression that all ammunition must be stored in a manner that removes it from easy access by unauthorized individuals. ie: Locked in a container, separate from all firearms.   In other words, if I have one 22.cal cartridge sitting on my work-bench,  am I in contravention of the Act?   Cheers,   Peter ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2012 16:53:10 -0600 From: Larry James Fillo Subject: Re:"Mexico wants U.S. to ban semi-automatic weapons" The Mexican government is so corrupt that the only agents of the state that can be trusted to do raids on the drug cartels are the Navy Marines. Everyone else is too compromised to various degrees. Doing a secret raid is quite a challenge. Former and serving police and armed forces members have been prominent in the violence. The leading or most violent gang are Los Zetas, who are made up of former armed forces and police. Some of them may have been trained in tactics and strategy by U.S. government trainers sent to help the Mexican government. Gun control is very restrictive in Mexico for ordinary citizens, for violent criminals not so much. It was enacted to prevent another popular uprising like the Mexican Revolution of 1910, where peasant General Emiliano Zapata and Pancho Villa defeated the government forces and forced many reforms. They were then assassinated and corruption started to grow and spread. Since there are truckloads of weapons floating around Latin America, including in the hands of corrupt governments would it not be cheaper and easier for the drug cartels to simply steal from the governments their members come from than buy at U.S. dollars and have to smuggle them back? That might also explain why the youtube videos of the gangsters attacking police stations with hand grenades. Or even RPGs. So it's easier to go along with Obama's political agenda if you're the Mexican President. The drug cartels require a large support/ distribution network in the U.S. but Obama isn't going to deal with that out of fear of alienating the Mexican immigrant vote. If the U.S. special forces do raids on Mexican drug dealers, we can expect them to display seized firearms that are traceable to the U.S. but likely not mention the ones that aren't. On 6-Apr-12, at 5:58 AM, Cdn-Firearms Digest wrote: > Mexico wants US to ban semi-automatic weapons > By Michael McGuire, US Senate Examiner > http://www.examiner.com/us-senate-in-national/mexico-wants-us-to- > ban-semi-automatic-weapons > > Felipe Calderon, the president of Mexico, on Monday called upon > Congress to > ban the sale of semi-automatic weapons in the United States. > "During my > government, we have seized over 140,000 weapons in four years," he > said, > according to a U.S. State Department translation of his remarks. > "And I > think that the vast majority have been assault weapons -- AK-47s, > etc. And > many, the vast majority of these weapons were sold in gun shops in the > United States. Along the border of the U.S. and Mexico, there are > approximately 8,000 weapons shops. If we do our accounts, that > means that > there are approximately nine weapons stores for each Walmart that > exists in > the United States and Mexico." > > Calderon made his remarks during a press conference at the White > House that > included US President Barack Obama and Prime Minister Stephen > Harper of > Canada. He realizes stiffer gun control laws represent a difficult > political > process. "I have a great deal of respect for the U.S. legislation, > especially the Second Amendment," but I know that if we don't stop the > traffic of weapons into Mexico, also if we don't have mechanisms to > forbid > the sale of weapons, such as we had in the '90s, or for registry of > guns, at > least for assault weapons, then we are never going to be able to > stop the > violence in Mexico or stop a future turning of those guns upon the > U.S." ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2012 16:36:24 -0700 From: Len Miller Subject: Dennis posted: CDN firearms digest V15 # 37 . . Martin, 17, was killed on Feb. 26 in Sanford, Florida, by George Zimmerman, 28, a white Hispanic neighborhood watch volunteer who has claimed he acted in self defence and has not been charged with a crime. At a rally in Sanford on Saturday, civil rights leaders said they were considering economic boycotts of national companies that support "Stand Your Ground" laws. In a letter to ColorOfChange dated Jan. 25, 2012, PepsiCo told Robinson that the company had decided to drop its decade-long membership in ALEC. Robinson said Coca-Cola made its decision on Wednesday after ColorOfChange at 9 a.m. posted a Web page criticizing Coca-Cola's continued support of ALEC. Robinson said the Web page was up for eight hours before ColorOfChange removed it based on Coca-Cola's change of heart. - - ------------------------------------------------------------- Len, a former police officer . . would like to pose these questions . . just WHEN did Zimmerman feel threatened . . (a) when he first saw Martin . . at a distance, walking away from him ? (b) when the police radio warned/cautioned him from approaching Martin? (c) when he ignored that and aggressively closed in on Martin to a point where Martin felt threatened ? (d) when Martin began screaming for help ( or was it Zim who now had provoked the boy into a defensive reaction )? (e) or when the cops came and bought his story of 'stand your ground' BS. and failed to notice the lack of blood on the 'Zim' look for powder tattooing Tip . . NO BLOOD ? . . his story is a lie . . look for powder tattooing From what I have seen (TV coverage of a bloodless perp ) in custody, would indicate to me that the whole thing was a lie . But, as Jack Ruby proved, once a guy was dead . . you could stage any scenario you chose . . But, what do I know, I have been in that situation many, many times in my 30 years as a cop . . and didn't shoot anyone . . could have . . but didn't . . Those who believe the Zim was right, please don't ever sit on a jury over me . . Funny how any event can be twisted . . cognitive dissonance ? Len, from Vancouver, where the criminals still show who is affected by gun laws . ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2012 22:30:03 -0600 From: Larry James Fillo Subject: "Mark Steyn-Australian Freedom of Speech Tour 2012" For nations founded upon the concept of liberty, the suppression of freedom of speech is a critical issue, without free speech the liberty as a principle won't survive. Steyn uses satire but the subject matter is most serious. All problems of our nation are exacerbated when free and public discussion of those are suppressed, whether that is overt suppression by the state or the self-censorship due to intimidation from the suppression of other freedoms. http://vimeo.com/39384140 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2012 22:59:16 -0600 From: Larry James Fillo Subject: A quote regarding the status of the Supreme Court "If the policy of the government upon vital questions affecting the whole people is to be irrevocably fixed by decisions of the Supreme Court," wrote Abraham Lincoln, "the people will have ceased to be their own rulers." This applies to all Common-Law countries who are founded on the theory that individual citizens are sovereign and the power given to both elected representatives and most especially the bureaucracy is only a delegated power. The citizen does not relinquish his sovereignty by doing so. Is there a politician in the land who understands and would state this concept. I can't think of one, but it makes it that much more important that citizens understand their responsibilities in both the establishment and the maintaining a free and democratic society. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2012 04:51:34 -0700 From: Bob Subject: Re: Supreme Court gives police leeway in home searches On Sat, 7 Apr 2012 21:51:41 -0600 (CST), you wrote: >------------------------------ > >Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2012 16:53:51 -0600 >From: Matthew Gerspacher >Subject: Supreme Court gives police leeway in home searches > >** >Supreme Court gives police leeway in home searches > >http://articles.latimes.com/2011/may/17/nation/la-na-court-search-20110517 > >The Supreme Court gave police more leeway to break into homes or apartments >in search of illegal drugs when they suspect the evidence otherwise might >be destroyed. > The return of that lame "probable cause" will surely replenish the useless, dwindling court systems, sucking on the Zionist Pig Philosophy. I think the SCC should think about were they are going to get the money to pay for their exalted above god need to pay their extra "flatfoot" bodyguards. By screwing the Country all over, they are going to need the stronger fuzz or heaven forbid, actually have to defend themselves..... >Ruling in a Kentucky case Monday, the justices said that officers who smell >marijuana and loudly knock on the door may break in if they hear sounds >that suggest the residents are scurrying to hide the drugs. > So far they (SCC) are giving the infantry/fuzz godly rights to rape the Canadian World in lieu of cash for their (SCC) extra "flatfoot" bodyguards. The "probable cause" clause has been a very long abused law that makes the Nazi Gestapo look quite tame. The Gestapo ego is insatiable and feeding it was Canada's biggest mistake, starting with dictator P.E.T. who mistook himself as an exalted Gendarme. Bob ------------------------------ End of Cdn-Firearms Digest V15 #39 ********************************** Submissions: mailto:cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Mailing List Commands: mailto:majordomo@scorpion.bogend.ca Moderator's email: mailto:owner-cdn-firearms@scorpion.bogend.ca List owner: mailto:owner-cdn-firearms@scorpion.bogend.ca FAQ list: http://www.canfirearms/Skeeter/Faq/cfd-faq1.html Web Site: http://www.canfirearms.ca CFDigest Archives: http://www.canfirearms.ca/archives To unsubscribe from _all_ the lists, put the next four lines in a message and mailto:majordomo@scorpion.bogend.ca unsubscribe cdn-firearms-digest unsubscribe cdn-firearms-chat unsubscribe cdn-firearms end (To subscribe, use "subscribe" instead of "unsubscribe".)