From: owner-cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca (Cdn-Firearms Digest) To: cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Subject: Cdn-Firearms Digest V15 #64 Reply-To: cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Sender: owner-cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Errors-To: owner-cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Precedence: normal Cdn-Firearms Digest Saturday, April 21 2012 Volume 15 : Number 064 In this issue: RE: Dr. Caillin Langman during his appearance at Bill C-19 ... Detachment B&E, pistol, ammo and magazines stolen Tampa may seek Gov. Rick Scott's help keeping guns away ... Ted Nugent vs. a deluded Jewish congresswoman RE: Important statement from Dr. Caillin Langman during his ... Fwd: Rules for starting newbies And these wankers want our firearm information... Quebec MP up in arms over 'outrageous' firearms fete OXFAM: Take action for a strong Arms Trade Treaty Re: Judge extends injunction to preserve long-gun reg. in Quebec Thief steals handgun, ammo from RCMP Detachment ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, April 20, 2012 4:36 pm From: "Clive Edwards" <45clive@telus.net> Subject: RE: Dr. Caillin Langman during his appearance at Bill C-19 ... ... Senate Committee March 28 2012 On the Senate hearing linked below: Dr. Trepanier - one who performs trepanning, bores into your skull and sucks the life out of you. Seems this Dr. Jean-Pierre Trepanier bores into our culture and sucks the freedom out. We need to send people like this packing. They are far more dangerous than a man with a gun, and are a waste of skin. Clive Dr. Caillin Langman during his appearance at Bill C-19 Senate Committee March 28 2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mha9JsHwvwA THE STANDING SENATE COMMITTEE ON LEGAL AND CONSTITUTIONAL AFFAIRS TRANSCRIPT AND MINUTES - OTTAWA, Wednesday, March 28, 2012 The Standing Senate Committee on Legal and Constitutional Affairs, to which was referred Bill C-19, An Act to amend the Criminal Code and the Firearms Act, met this day at 2:30 p.m. to give consideration to the bill. http://www.parl.gc.ca/Content/SEN/Committee/411/lcjc/49446-e.htm?Language=E&Parl=41&Ses=1&comm_id=11 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 16:49:41 -0600 From: Larry James Fillo Subject: Detachment B&E, pistol, ammo and magazines stolen So much for the theory that it would be safer if all civilian firearms were stored with the police. Maybe, all police firearms should be store with the army. Then they could sign them out when they needed them. :) Can we expect "unsafe storage" charges to be laid? Yeah right, "The Rule of Law" applying to the agents of the Crown, too? Not likely, as acknowledging the Magna Carta wasn't included in the the Firearm's Act. It was written in the manner of the Crown prior to the signing of the 1215 document. ========================= Excerpt from the CSSA newsletter, "YEAH, WELL WE HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS TO ASK: RCMP members in Arviat are searching for a handgun stolen from their detachment some time between late April 9 or early April 10. “A reward of up to $5,000 is being offered to the person that leads to the recovery of the gun,” said a Facebook message posted by Sgt. Shayne Courtorielle of the Arviat RCMP on the Arviat local news page. In the Facebook post, Courtorielle said somebody broke into the Arviat detachment and stole an RCMP pistol, ammunition clips and bullets. The message said anyone with information about who has the weapon or who did the break and enter may phone 857-0123 or 857-1111. “A third party can be used to return the gun, but make sure the clips are out of it. No questions will be asked!!” the Facebook post said. (Nunatsiaq Online -- April 14, 2012)" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 17:54:16 -0600 From: "Joe Gingrich" Subject: Tampa may seek Gov. Rick Scott's help keeping guns away ... ... from RNC protests http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/tampa-may-reach-out-to-gov-rick-scott-for-help-keeping-concealed-guns-away/1225987 Tampa may seek Gov. Rick Scott's help keeping guns away from RNC protests By Richard Danielson, Times Staff Writer Richard DanielsonTampa Bay Times In Print: Friday, April 20, 2012 TAMPA - Frustrated by a Florida law that blocks all local regulation of guns, Mayor Bob Buckhorn expects to reach out to Gov. Rick Scott for help keeping concealed firearms away from protests during the Republican National Convention. The 2011 state law pre-empts the ability of cities and counties to pass any laws regulating firearms or ammunition. So while Tampa plans to ban a wide range of weapons (clubs, switchblades, Mace) and things that could be used as weapons (chains, glass bottles, water pistols) outside the convention, it cannot prohibit guns carried with a concealed weapons permit. Buckhorn anticipates sending Scott a letter soon asking the state to explore a way to suspend the law temporarily during the Aug. 27-30 convention. He hopes that would create a way to ban concealed weapons inside the city's proposed "Clean Zone," which covers downtown and surrounding areas. "The absurdity of banning squirt guns but not being able to do anything about real guns is patently obvious," Buckhorn said Thursday. "Given the nature and the potential dynamic of this event, I think it would make sense that you would not want firearms introduced into that environment by people other than law enforcement." Whether the governor could - or would - do anything to help the city is not clear. Scott's press office did not respond to an inquiry from the Times late Thursday afternoon. City Attorney James Shimberg Jr. said he's looking into the issue. "I'm working on it and trying to figure out what we can do," Shimberg said. "I'm not sure if it's doable yet." Buckhorn, a Democrat, said he doubts the Republican-controlled Legislature would be called to Tallahassee for a special session on this issue. But if a special session were called on something else, he would hope that the issue would at least be raised. Buckhorn also is open to executive branch action, which is why he's looking to Scott. "It's an issue that is serious enough that I think he would want to at least be advised of it," he said. "We just want to put it on his radar and ask that he try and create some remedy for it." In the event of an emergency beyond local control, Florida law does allow the governor to issue executive orders that have the force and effect of law. Among the powers conferred upon the governor in emergencies is the authority to "suspend or limit the sale, dispensing or transportation of alcoholic beverages, firearms, explosives and combustibles." There will be one place during the convention where concealed weapons will be banned regardless of what the state does or doesn't do in response to the city's request: inside the convention itself. That's because the Secret Service will control access to the Tampa Bay Times Forum, the site of the convention, and it has said no one but on-duty law enforcement officers will be allowed to take guns into the event. Shimberg said he has not officially asked the Secret Service whether it would consider expanding its authority to cover a larger area around the convention. But based on previous conversations, Shimberg expects the Secret Service will remain focused on the area inside the secure perimeter that it sets around the convention, leaving the city responsible for the area outside the perimeter. That's why it's proposing the Clean Zone ordinance, he said. One legal expert said such an expansion of federal authority would be possible but is not likely. ***The supremacy clause of the U.S. Constitution gives the Secret Service the authority to ban guns inside the convention even though Florida law trumps the city's authority to regulate them elsewhere, said Michael L. Seigel, a University of Florida Research Foundation professor of law. The supremacy clause makes the Constitution and the national laws made pursuant to it the "supreme law of the land." So, no matter what Florida law says, as long as the Secret Service points to a law giving it the authority to carry out its mission, it can prevent people from carrying concealed weapons into the convention. Theoretically, Seigel said, the Secret Service could expand the geographic reach of its authority and ban concealed weapons throughout the city's Clean Zone, too, as long as agents could connect that expansion to the legitimate pursuit of their lawful authority. And Seigel has seen something like that happen on a small scale. He once went to a rally for then-presidential candidate Bill Clinton at Hillsborough High School. There, the Secret Service ringed a couple of blocks around the school with school buses and had everyone enter that perimeter through a metal detector. But chances are slim that the agency would do the same for the much larger Clean Zone, which, as originally proposed, would cover several square miles. A former federal prosecutor, Seigel doubted that the Secret Service would get involved with a public safety matter happening a long distance from the VIPs its agents are required to protect. Buckhorn said he simply wants "the ability to control our streets for that week." "I've got a responsibility," said Buckhorn, a gun owner who has had a concealed weapons permit of his own. "I'm the guy who's going to have to make it work. Anything we can do to add one more level of security, one more level of safety for the people who are here is a good thing." ***http://www.ask.com/wiki/Supremacy_Clause Article VI, Clause 2 of the United States Constitution, known as the Supremacy Clause, establishes the U.S. Constitution, U.S. Treaties, made pursuant to the U.S. Constitution, shall be "the supreme law of the land." The text decrees these to be the highest form of law in the U.S. legal system, and mandates that all state judges must follow federal law when a conflict arises between federal law and either the state constitution or state law of any state. (Note that the word "shall" is used, which makes it a necessity, a compulsion.) However, the Supremacy Clause only applies if the federal government is acting in pursuit of its constitutionally authorized powers, as noted by the phrase "in pursuance thereof" in the actual text of the Supremacy Clause itself. The "supremacy clause" is the most important guarantor of national union. It assures that the Constitution and federal laws and treaties take precedence over state law and binds all judges to adhere to that principle in their courts. - United States Senate[1] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 21:41:31 -0600 From: "Joe Gingrich" Subject: Ted Nugent vs. a deluded Jewish congresswoman http://jpfo.org/rabbi/rabbi-nuge-vs-schultz.htm Ted Nugent vs. a deluded Jewish congresswoman by Rabbi Dovid Bendory, Rabbinic Director, Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership. Copyright 2012 JPFO Ted Nugent and Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership go way back. We may not agree with Ted on all of his high-volume pronouncements, but on the Second Amendment, Ted Nugent and JPFO see eye to eye. Chair of the Democratic National Committee, Debbie Wasserman Schultz is presently alleging that Nugent threatened the life of President Barack Hussein Obama. Judge for yourself - go here. Wasserman Schultz is one of the leading gun prohibitionists in Congress. No Jew should embrace victimhood, but Wasserman Schultz certainly does. She sells out every American Jew, and every American when she opens her mouth with her anti-Torah nanny-state "gun control" schemes. Ted is not Jewish, and because of political correctness, he cannot say that. But I'm an Orthodox rabbi, so I can. Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownerships (founded in 1989) cannot enter into electoral politics, but we can point out the immoral and anti-Constitution behavior of "progressives" like Wasserman Schultz. In a recent documentary film by JPFO titled "No Guns for Jews", the dangerous mouthings and maneuverings of Jewish gun-phobes like Wasserman Schultz are carefully examined. Interesting enough, the Congresswoman has a cameo in that film. Watch "No Guns for Jews" and watch the currently circulating video clip of Ted Nugent's rhetoric. If American politicians are allowed to squelch Ted Nugent's political speech, if they're allowed to squelch his stand on the Second Amendment and his opinions about those who would trash the Guardian of the Bill of Rights, those evil politicians will be crushing your and my freedoms as well. When it comes to the Second Amendment, Ted Nugent walks the walk. America, pay attention. Shalom, Rabbi Dovid Bendory Rabbinic Director Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership (http://jpfo.org) Rabbi Bendory is an NRA Certified Firearms Instructor. The Rabbi's Archive page. http://jpfo.org/rabbi/rabbi-archive.htm ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 21:47:17 -0700 From: "Clive Edwards" <45clive@telus.net> Subject: RE: Important statement from Dr. Caillin Langman during his ... I agree that "just in case" is a valid reason - for owning firearms, even full auto, grenade launchers and possibly neighbourhood artillery pieces. Every community should have the option of having a local militia - perhaps based right next to the volunteer fire department (so the same members can serve both). They would, of course, be independent of provincial and federal control - answerable only to their own communities (something Pierre Trepanier would find appalling on so many levels). Clive > Dr. Langman applies the extremely lame rationale of Dr. Jean-Pierre > Trepanier(anti gun) who argues we must retain the registry for public > safety the "just in case" garbage yet supplies no credible proof to > support his argument. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, April 21, 2012 6:13 am From: "mikeack" Subject: Fwd: Rules for starting newbies Rules for starting newbies: 1) Safety - never let it falter 2) Make it fun - use reactive targets that they cannot easily miss 3) Bring a variety of toys - 3 is about ideal for one afternoon 4) Only go out on a great weather day - remember it has to be fun 5) Never give them more gun than they can comfortably handle 6) End the session before they are tired so they leave wanting more 7) 1 on 1 coaching is best the first time out 8) Pick a day when you are alone on the range so you can focus 100% 9) Its not about you - its about her (or him) 10) Make sure your student understands that for those few hours, s/he is the most important person in your world. - -- M.J. Ackermann, MD (Mike) Rural Family Physician, Sherbrooke, NS mikeack@ns.sympatico.ca "Hope for the best, but be prepared for the worst". ------------------------------ Date: Sat, April 21, 2012 6:24 am From: "mikeack" Subject: And these wankers want our firearm information... http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/corruption-in-quebec-widespread-says-provinces-watchdog/article2408408/ Corruption in Quebec widespread, watchdog says as probe expands Quebec’s anti-corruption squad has no fewer than 16 investigations under way, in addition to the one that made headlines this week with the arrest of 15 people, including construction magnate Antonio Accurso, charged with corruption, fraud, conspiracy and bribery. Allegations of corruption in major construction projects have tainted all levels of government from smaller municipalities to bigger cities, spreading to the Quebec government and federal officials. But statements on Thursday from the head of the province’s anti-corruption unit indicate suspicions of wrongdoing in Quebec’s biggest resource program, major energy projects and even social programs. Police say investigations include major construction projects awarded by Hydro Quebec and infrastructure projects for the development of mines under the government’s Plan Nord, a 25-year project to develop resources in the province’s north. “We are examining how the contracts were awarded to see whether they are vulnerable. There are those involving major work projects such as suppliers of Hydro Quebec, the Quebec Ministry of Transportation, computer systems and the Plan Nord,” Robert Lafrenière, the head of the anti-corruption unit, said ay National Assembly hearings on the public security ministry on Thursday. Mr. Lafrenière refused to give details of on-going investigations or describe any of the alleged corrupt practices and whether they have include provincial officials. This week, Mascouche mayor Richard Marcotte, public officials, a lawyer and construction entrepreneurs were arrested after an 18-month investigation. Mr. Lafrenière said police have completed four other investigations, which have been handed over to the director of criminal and penal prosecutions, meaning arrests could come soon. The anti-corruption unit is sharing its information with a commission of inquiry into corruption and collusion in the construction industry that begin next month. The investigation into major work projects is being conducted in part by the anti-collusion squad, one of several police teams that make-up the anti-corruption unit. The squad’s former director, Jacques Duchesneau, made troubling revelations in a report last year of fraudulent practices in the construction industry. He said intimidation, violence, money laundering and protection rackets were an integral part of the industry, and people feared for their lives if they spoke out. A positive effect of this week’s high-profile arrests is that many people were now coming forward with vital information that may help crack several cases, Mr. Lafrenière said. “People are talking and we really need the information they have to offer. ... It is having a major impact for us,” Mr. Lafrenière said. “A lot more people have called since the arrests this week.” The anti-corruption squad, which includes several other police investigation teams including the Sûreté du Québec’s Operation Hammer, had been criticized for failing to show concrete results. The opposition parties alleged that the unit was being hampered by political interference. The Parti Québécois this week revealed in the National Assembly that the government had failed to cooperate with the anti-corruption unit in an investigation involving the awarding of daycare spaces to individuals who were alleged to have close ties with the Quebec Liberal Party. But Mr. Lafrenière confirmed that the government handed over all the information needed to complete the investigation. “We now have in hand all the documents we needed. We already had quite a few, but we received the last documents we needed [on Wednesday],” he said. “In the end, we didn’t need use the Access to Information law to get them.” - -- M.J. Ackermann, MD (Mike) Rural Family Physician, Sherbrooke, NS mikeack@ns.sympatico.ca "Hope for the best, but be prepared for the worst". ------------------------------ Date: Sat, April 21, 2012 8:32 am From: "Dennis R. Young" Subject: Quebec MP up in arms over 'outrageous' firearms fete VANCOUVER SUN - APRIL 21, 2012 Quebec MP up in arms over 'outrageous' firearms fete BY JEFF DAVIS, POSTMEDIA NEWS http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Quebec+arms+over+outrageous+firearms+fete/6493997/story.html NDP MP Francoise Boivin says the Canadian Sports Shooting Association is provoking Quebecers by holding its annual dinner and dance in her Gatineau, Que., riding. The Stick to Your Guns event, advertised as the first "dead registry" celebration, is being held in Quebec "as a show of support for the long-awaited demise of the long-gun registry." "We're bringing the celebration to Quebec as a reminder that sport shooters in that province deserve the same firearms freedom as everyone else in the country," CSSA executive director Tony Bernardo said in an advertisement. "There seems to be a twisted logic among Quebec voters that keeping the registry will somehow make them safer. We're inviting everyone who believes in basic freedoms to join the CSSA in Gatineau." The event will be held at a Gatineau conference centre on April 28 and is billed as being "tactical, practical and fantastical." The CSSA has been holding the Stick to Your Guns evenings for a number of years, and it is the largest fundraising event for the shooters association. Boivin called the CSSA's decision to hold the event in Quebec - where support for strict gun control is strongest - "totally outrageous." "It's trying to provoke," she said. "It's to insert themselves into a debate still prevailing in Quebec." The CSSA is unlikely to sway public opinion in Quebec, which Boivin said is deeply committed to gun control since the 1989 Montreal Massacre and the more recent Dawson College shootings in the province. "I think they want to send a message to province of Quebec that they're there, they're observing," Boivin said. "But I think they just don't understand the position of the people who are not of their view." Last year, the event was held in Oshawa, Ont., and was attended by a number of Conservative MPs. These included Oshawa MP Colin Carrie, Ajax-Pickering MP Chris Alexander and Saskatchewan MP Garry Breitkreuz, who has been the Tory point-man on firearms issues and the push to repeal the long-gun registry. Breitkreuz will deliver the keynote speech this year, on the topic of "possible options for future firearms legislation in Canada." Before the gala evening begins, the advertisement says, the CSSA will hold its annual general meeting, then members will go on a tour of Parliament Hill in neighbouring Ottawa "as a tribute to the excellent job the current government is doing for responsible gun owners." Sponsors of last year's event - which included a live gun auction - were firearms manufacturer Stoeger Canada, ammunition maker Hornady and a number of hunting supply stores. Boivin was not aware of the event until informed by Postmedia News, and she said she thinks few of her constituents will attend. On Friday, a Quebec superior court extended an injunction stopping the government from destroying the data within the Long Gun Registry database until June, when the case will be heard. Given this development, Boivin said, "it's a bit premature to start celebrating." Despite her opposition to their politics, Boivin said CSSA members are welcome to come and spend their money in her riding. jdavis@postmedia.com Twitter.com/JeffDavisOttawa ------------------------------ Date: Sat, April 21, 2012 8:46 am From: "Dennis R. Young" Subject: OXFAM: Take action for a strong Arms Trade Treaty Take action for a strong Arms Trade Treaty Published on 18 Apr 2012 by Oxfam Great Britain Sign the petition or visit our blog for eye catching, banana based (!) methods - http://oxf.am/otU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEZJpYjbW7o LONDON SCHOOL OF ECONOMICS STUDENTS - APRIL 20, 2012 A Global Arms Trade Treaty: Why it needs to happen and why LSE students should support it http://www.lsesu.com/news/article/6001/A-Global-Arms-Trade-Treaty-Why-it-needs-to-happen-and-why-LSE-students-should-support-it/ UK must stop arming despots: Amnesty International http://presstv.com/detail/237301.html STIMSON - APRIL 16, 2012 Spotlight - The Arms Trade Treaty http://www.stimson.org/spotlight/the-arms-trade-treaty/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 15:37:54 +0000 (UTC) From: Roger Walker Subject: Re: Judge extends injunction to preserve long-gun reg. in Quebec On Fri, 20 Apr 2012, Dennis R. Young wrote: > Quebec extends long gun registry injunction > Quebecers still obliged to register their weapons > CBC News - Last Updated: Apr 20, 2012 12:49 PM ET > http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/story/2012/04/20/quebec-long-gun-registry-injunction-decision.html > > A Quebec superior court judge has extended an injunction blocking the > federal government from dismantling the long gun registry. In a written > ruling, Justice Marc-André Blanchard ordered the registry to remain in > effect until June 13, 2012. The province's legal challenge of the federal > law to destroy data in the gun registry is scheduled to start in June. > Quebec's government wants to use data from the federal gun registry to > create its own list of the province's gun owners. Just a thought: Let them have the Quebec data, AFTER they pay the full costs for the registry's creation and maintenance to date. I see no reason that a provincial court should be able to tell the federal government that they should simply hand over something like this for free. - -- Roger Walker ------------------------------ Date: Sat, April 21, 2012 10:11 am From: "Dennis R. Young" Subject: Thief steals handgun, ammo from RCMP Detachment NUNATSIAQ NEWS - Nunavut April 14, 2012 - 9:27 pm Thief steals handgun, ammo from Arviat RCMP $5,000 offered for information leading to recovery of gun http://www.nunatsiaqonline.ca/stories/article/65674thief_steals_handgun_ammo_from_arviat_rcmp_station/ RCMP members in Arviat are searching for a handgun stolen from their detachment sometime between late April 9 or early April 10. "A reward of up to $5,000 is being offered to the person that leads to the recovery of the gun," said a Facebook message posted by Sgt. Shayne Courtorielle of the Arviat RCMP on the Arviat local news page. In the Facebook post, Courtorielle said somebody broke into the Arviat detachment and stole an RCMP pistol, ammunition clips and bullets. The message said anyone with information about who has the weapon or who did the break and enter may phone 857-0123 or 857-1111. "A third party can be used to return the gun, but make sure the clips are out of it. No questions will be asked!!" the Facebook post said. Police said an email about the matter may be sent to shayne.the.cop@gmail.com PHOTO: This is the most common type of sidearm issued to RCMP members in Canada: a Smith and Wesson 9 millimetre 5946 pistol. ------------------------------ End of Cdn-Firearms Digest V15 #64 ********************************** Submissions: mailto:cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Mailing List Commands: mailto:majordomo@scorpion.bogend.ca Moderator's email: mailto:owner-cdn-firearms@scorpion.bogend.ca List owner: mailto:owner-cdn-firearms@scorpion.bogend.ca FAQ list: http://www.canfirearms/Skeeter/Faq/cfd-faq1.html Web Site: http://www.canfirearms.ca CFDigest Archives: http://www.canfirearms.ca/archives To unsubscribe from _all_ the lists, put the next four lines in a message and mailto:majordomo@scorpion.bogend.ca unsubscribe cdn-firearms-digest unsubscribe cdn-firearms-chat unsubscribe cdn-firearms end (To subscribe, use "subscribe" instead of "unsubscribe".)