From: owner-cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca (Cdn-Firearms Digest) To: cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Subject: Cdn-Firearms Digest V15 #288 Reply-To: cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Sender: owner-cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Errors-To: owner-cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Precedence: normal owner-cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Cdn-Firearms Digest Monday, October 1 2012 Volume 15 : Number 288 In this issue: [none] [none] [none] [none] [none] [none] [none] [none] [none] [none] [none] [none] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: From: Subject: [none] ... Violent Offenders, but is okay for law-abiding gun owners? Reverse Onus clause violates the Constitutional Rights of Violent Offenders, but is okay for law-abiding gun owners? by: Christopher di Armani | Sep 30, 2012 http://christopherdiarmani.com/7111/violent-criminals/reverse-onus-clause-violates-constitutional-rights-violent-offenders-lawabiding-gun-owners/?awt_l=Abats&awt_m=3eQdi5DPMatLzRJ Gotta love this country, where up is down and left is right. Only in a nation that has completely abandoned rational thought and critical thinking could dangerous offenders have more rights than law-abiding gun owners. That this judgement comes out of the Ontario court system should surprise nobody. Ontario Superior Court Judge Alan Bryant ruled that reverse onus for dangerous offenders violates their constitutional rights. How. progressive of him. The law that Judge Alan Bryant took such exception to requires violent offenders convicted of serious crimes must prove they do not deserve to be designated as dangerous offenders and thus be incarcerated indefinitely. You must realize this isn't good old Joe from down the street we're talking about here. No, the individuals affected by this law are folks who have explicitly shown through their repeated violent criminal behaviour that they're a menace to society. The law used to require the Crown prove an individual was worthy of being locked up indefinitely but the Conservative government under Stephen Harper changed that requirement in 2008. The law now requires the individual in question prove they should not be labelled a dangerous offender. In this case such a requirement actually makes sense. I say that because the Crown has already proven the individual is deserving of that designation by convicting them of numerous violent crimes. Contrast that with law-abiding Canadian gun owners. As a person who has not committed any crime, violent or otherwise, Canadian gun owners are subject to the burden of proof in practically every aspect of Canadian firearms law. Under the Criminal Code of Canada section 117.11, for example, states the following: 117.11 Onus on the accused - Where, in any proceedings for an offence under any of sections 89, 90, 91, 93, 97, 101,104 and 105, any question arises as to whether a person is the holder of an authorization, a license or a registration certificate, the onus is on the accused to prove that the person is the holder of the authorization, a license or registration certificate. Even with the removal of the much-despised Canadian long gun registry law-abiding Canadian gun owners can still be charged with any of these offences. The onus is then upon them to prove they nave NOT committed a crime, and given the horrendously flawed record-keeping of the government in this regard, good luck to any gun owner placed in this position. The mere presence of a spent shell-casing is considered just cause for SWAT Teams to descend upon an unwitting Canadian, all because owning a firearm has been demonized repeatedly over the past 20 or 30 years. Read more: http://christopherdiarmani.com/7111/violent-criminals/reverse-onus-clause-violates-constitutional-rights-violent-offenders-lawabiding-gun-owners/?awt_l=Abats&awt_m=3eQdi5DPMatLzRJ ------------------------------ Date: From: Subject: [none] At 02:33 PM 28/09/2012 -0600, you wrote: > >Excerpt: National Council Report > >VOL. 1 No. 7 28-09-2012 > > >NATIONAL CONVENTION 2013 >________________ >Role of Harper Government is > >7. to disarm civilian Canadians, by stealing their firearms, so that they >become victims of criminals and wild beasts. It has been the role of the Bureaucrats to reduce the numbers of legally held firearms in Canada. The works of the bureaucrats continues carefully with the C.F.O.s defying law made by Parliament. No one can blame Mr. Harper and company for a bureaucratic agenda run by the new aristocracy ( the federal government employee) that is apparently unaccountable to the courts, law, or the House of Parliament. Combine that with the inability and failure of the courts to deal with violent criminals, releasing them instead of protectign society by incarceration of the violent and we have a country with an increasing number of violent criminals. With the recent challenge to C-19 in Quebec it is apparent that some of the Judicial system is operating on a different set of rules than the rest of Canada. ------------------------------ Date: From: Subject: [none] Nunavut, RCMP target unsafe gun storage after dozens of firearm incidents By The Canadian Press - September 28, 2012 http://www.theprovince.com/news/Nunavut+RCMP+target+unsafe+storage+after+dozens+firearm+incidents/7315945/story.html So far this year, Nunavut RCMP have responded to 73 calls where firearms have been involved. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Does "where firearms have been involved" include scary photos of firearms? Yours in Tyranny, Joe Gingrich ------------------------------ Date: From: Subject: [none] 'His little dog was killed in front of him': Grizzly kills dog near Lake Louise By Colette Derworiz, Calgary Herald September 29, 2012 http://www.ottawacitizen.com/travel/Grizzly+kills+near+Lake+Louise/7319568/story.html Several campgrounds and hiking trails in Banff National Park are closed after a grizzly bear killed a dog on a hike with its owner in the backcountry near Lake Louise. Late Thursday afternoon, Leo Mitzel was out scrambling with his Jack Russell terrier, Bill, when an adult grizzly bear attacked the dog. "Leo was approached at high speed" his wife, Katie Mitzel, told the Herald on Friday evening. "Bill was on a leash. She did not bark." Mitzel, who runs Skoki Lodge with her husband, said Leo is quite shaken by the attack. "His little dog was killed in front of him. That's traumatic," she said. "He's lived in this area his whole life. That's never happened before." Brianna Burley, acting human-wildlife conflict specialist with Parks Canada, said it appears that the bear was only interested in the dog. "It was definitely a close encounter," she said. "It was abnormal." Officials immediately closed Merlin Meadows and Red Deer Lakes campgrounds, and asked guests at Skoki Lodge to stay off the trails Thursday night to prevent any further encounters. Additional closures took effect in the area Friday. They include the trails and campgrounds at Hidden Lake and Baker Lake, as well as two warden cabins and Skoki Lodge. Charlie Locke, who holds the operating licence for Skoki Lodge, said they decided to shut down early due to the encounter. "Safety is No. 1," he said, noting the lodge was scheduled to close for the season on Sunday. "Parks Canada felt more comfortable asking us to close a couple of days early," Locke said. Wildlife officials said dogs can provoke defensive behaviour in bears. "We recommend that people think twice about hiking with their dogs," said Burley, noting it can lead to a more dynamic situation if a dog barks at an agitated bear. "We'd rather err on the side of caution." Burley said they believe they spotted the bear from a helicopter Friday when they flew over the area where the attack took place. "It's not a bear we've dealt with before," she said, noting it's a healthy adult bear, though it's unknown whether it's a male or a female. Burley said there's isn't a plan to kill the bear. Thursday's incident is the first known grizzly attack within the boundaries of Banff National Park this year. Last September, a six-year-old male grizzly bear was put down after it stalked a well-known mountain guide and his client for about 300 metres and chased them up a tree on the way to Saddleback Pass, also near Lake Louise. cderworiz@calgaryherald.com ------------------------------ Date: From: Subject: [none] Laws that forbid the carrying of arms ... (Quotation) The following quotation is sometimes attributed to Thomas Jefferson: "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed one." This is not something Jefferson wrote, but rather comes from a passage he included in his "Legal Commonplace Book." The passage is from Cesare Beccaria's Essay on Crimes and Punishments.[1] It appears in Jefferson's commonplace book as follows: "Falsa idea di utilità è quella, che sacrifica mille vantaggi reali, per un inconveniente o immaginario, o di poca conseguenza, che toglierebbe agli uomini il fuoco perchè incendia, e l'acqua perchè annega; che non ripara ai mali, che col distruggere. Le leggi, che proibiscono di portar le armi, sono leggi di tal natura; esse non disarmano che i non inclinati, nè determinati ai delitti, mentre coloro che hanno il coraggio di poter violare le leggi più sacre della umanità è le più importanti del codice, come rispetteranno le minori, e le puramente arbitrarie? Queste peggiorano la condizione degli assaliti migliorando quella degli assalitori, non iscemano gli omicidi, ma gli accrescono, perchè è maggiore la confidenza nell'assalire i disarmati, che gli armati. Queste si chiaman leggi, non preventrici, ma paurose dei delitti, che nascono dalla tumultuosa impressione di alcuni fatti particolari, non dalla ragionata meditazione degl'inconvenienti, ed avvantaggi di un decreto universale. [2]" Jefferson's only notation on this passage was, "False idee di utilità."[3] The English translation of this passage which appeared in the 1809 edition Jefferson later owned is as follows: "A principal source of errors and injustice are false ideas of utility. For example: that legislator has false ideas of utility who considers particular more than general conveniencies, who had rather command the sentiments of mankind than excite them, who dares say to reason, 'Be thou a slave;' who would sacrifice a thousand real advantages to the fear of an imaginary or trifling inconvenience; who would deprive men of the use of fire for fear of their being burnt, and of water for fear of their being drowned; and who knows of no means of preventing evil but by destroying it. "The laws of this nature are those which forbid to wear arms, disarming those only who are not disposed to commit the crime which the laws mean to prevent. Can it be supposed, that those who have the courage to violate the most sacred laws of humanity, and the most important of the code, will respect the less considerable and arbitrary injunctions, the violation of which is so easy, and of so little comparative importance? Does not the execution of this law deprive the subject of that personal liberty, so dear to mankind and to the wise legislator? and does it not subject the innocent to all the disagreeable circumstances that should only fall on the guilty? It certainly makes the situation of the assaulted worse, and of the assailants better, and rather encourages than prevents murder, as it requires less courage to attack unarmed than armed persons."[4] The English translation of this passage originally quoted above, and the one most often seen on other Internet sites, is most likely a later translation; it may be taken from a 1963 translation by Henry Palolucci.[5] FOOTNOTES 1. Jefferson owned a copy of this work in the original Italian; he later purchased an English translation, published in London in 1809, which was sold to the Library of Congress (Sowerby, Entry 2349, 3:21). 2. Thomas Jefferson, The Commonplace Book of Thomas Jefferson: A Repertory of His Ideas on Government, ed. Gilbert Chinard (Baltimore: Johns Hopkins Press, 1926), 314. 3. Ibid. 4. ↑ Cesare Beccaria, An Essay on Crimes & Punishments, translated from the Italian with a commentary, attributed to M. de Voltaire, translated from the French (New York: Stephen Gould, 1809), 124-125. 5. Cesare Beccaria, On Crimes and Punishments, trans. by Henry Palolucci (Indianapolis: Bobbs-Merrill, 1963), 87-88. http://www.monticello.org/site/jefferson/laws-forbid-carrying-armsquotation {see also}: Cesare, Marquis of Beccaria-Bonesana; March 15, 1738 – November 28, 1794) an Italian jurist, philosopherand politician best known for his treatise On Crimes and Punishments (1764), which condemned torture and the death penalty, and was a founding work in the field of penology. He also argued against gun control laws.[1] He was among the first to advocate the beneficial influence of education in lessening crime.[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cesare_Beccaria ------------------------------ Date: From: Subject: [none] ...Man-Purse > A man arrested in a Surrey Earl's with a Glock inside his black Louis > Vuitton purse should serve the mandatory three year minimum for his > conviction, a >prosecutor argued Friday. Crown Lesley Ruzicka told > Surrey Provincial Court Judge James Bahen that the circumstances > surrounding Glenn Harley Sheck's conviction for possession of a loaded > prohibited firearm warranted the mandatory prison term. "Mr. Sheck had > the weapon concealed on his person in a busy >restaurant," Ruzicka said > Friday as Sheck and his supporters sat in the public gallery. "He was > in the community moving about, possessing a loaded firearm and > concealing that firearm." Ruzicka would have really wet her knickers if Sheck had been observing open carry. And why make the point about a 'black Louis Vuitton man-purse ("murse")? Would a fanny pack have been more acceptable at an Earl's restaurant or would he have been less out of place at a higher end restaurant? If recent history is any indicator, the cops are more likely to shoot innocent bystanders should they draw their guns. Clive ------------------------------ Date: From: Subject: [none] Eduardo, Thanks. Excellent information on Jefferson.. If Harper and his small group of controlling cronies were to read this, would they then administer the Conservative Party's policy contract with Canadians (policy #81 now #91) 1. "repeal Canada's costly gun registry legislation" 2. respect "the rights of law-abiding Canadians to own and use firearms responsibly". or would they begin at once with civilian disarmament and firearms confiscation (of section 12.6 handguns and scary looking AP-80s)? Tough questions, eh? Yours in Tyranny, Joe Gingrich White Fox ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edward Hudson" To: "Digest Firearms" Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 10:41 AM Subject: Laws that forbid the carrying of arms > Laws that forbid the carrying of arms ... (Quotation) > The following quotation is sometimes attributed to Thomas Jefferson: > > "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are > neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things > worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather > to encourage than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked > with greater confidence than an armed one." > > This is not something Jefferson wrote, but rather comes from a passage he > included in his "Legal Commonplace Book." The passage is from Cesare > Beccaria's Essay on Crimes and Punishments.[1] It appears in Jefferson's > commonplace book as follows: > > "Falsa idea di utilità è quella, che sacrifica mille vantaggi reali, per > un inconveniente o immaginario, o di poca conseguenza, che toglierebbe > agli uomini il fuoco perchè incendia, e l'acqua perchè annega; che non > ripara ai mali, che col distruggere. Le leggi, che proibiscono di portar > le armi, sono leggi di tal natura; esse non disarmano che i non > inclinati, nè determinati ai delitti, mentre coloro che hanno il coraggio > di poter violare le leggi più sacre della umanità è le più importanti del > codice, come rispetteranno le minori, e le puramente arbitrarie? Queste > peggiorano la condizione degli assaliti migliorando quella degli > assalitori, non iscemano gli omicidi, ma gli accrescono, perchè è > maggiore la confidenza nell'assalire i disarmati, che gli armati. Queste > si chiaman leggi, non preventrici, ma paurose dei delitti, che nascono > dalla tumultuosa impressione di alcuni fatti particolari, non dalla > ragionata meditazione degl'inconvenienti, ed avvantaggi di un decreto > universale. [2]" > > Jefferson's only notation on this passage was, "False idee di > utilità ."[3] > > The English translation of this passage which appeared in the 1809 > edition Jefferson later owned is as follows: > > "A principal source of errors and injustice are false ideas of utility. > For example: that legislator has false ideas of utility who considers > particular more than general conveniencies, who had rather command the > sentiments of mankind than excite them, who dares say to reason, 'Be thou > a slave;' who would sacrifice a thousand real advantages to the fear of > an imaginary or trifling inconvenience; who would deprive men of the use > of fire for fear of their being burnt, and of water for fear of their > being drowned; and who knows of no means of preventing evil but by > destroying it. > > "The laws of this nature are those which forbid to wear arms, disarming > those only who are not disposed to commit the crime which the laws mean > to prevent. Can it be supposed, that those who have the courage to > violate the most sacred laws of humanity, and the most important of the > code, will respect the less considerable and arbitrary injunctions, the > violation of which is so easy, and of so little comparative importance? > Does not the execution of this law deprive the subject of that personal > liberty, so dear to mankind and to the wise legislator? and does it not > subject the innocent to all the disagreeable circumstances that should > only fall on the guilty? It certainly makes the situation of the > assaulted worse, and of the assailants better, and rather encourages than > prevents murder, as it requires less courage to attack unarmed than armed > persons."[4] > > The English translation of this passage originally quoted above, and the > one most often seen on other Internet sites, is most likely a later > translation; it may be taken from a 1963 translation by Henry > Palolucci.[5] > > > FOOTNOTES > 1. Jefferson owned a copy of this work in the original Italian; he later > purchased an English translation, published in London in 1809, which was > sold to the Library of Congress (Sowerby, Entry 2349, 3:21). > > 2. Thomas Jefferson, The Commonplace Book of Thomas Jefferson: A > Repertory of His Ideas on Government, ed. Gilbert Chinard (Baltimore: > Johns Hopkins Press, 1926), 314. > > 3. Ibid. > > 4. ↑ Cesare Beccaria, An Essay on Crimes & Punishments, translated from > the Italian with a commentary, attributed to M. de Voltaire, translated > from the French (New York: Stephen Gould, 1809), 124-125. > > 5. Cesare Beccaria, On Crimes and Punishments, trans. by Henry Palolucci > (Indianapolis: Bobbs-Merrill, 1963), 87-88. > > http://www.monticello.org/site/jefferson/laws-forbid-carrying-armsquotation > > {see also}: > Cesare, Marquis of Beccaria-Bonesana; March 15, 1738 – November 28, 1794) > > an Italian jurist, philosopherand politician best known for his treatise > On Crimes and Punishments (1764), which condemned torture and the death > penalty, and was a founding work in the field of penology. > > He also argued against gun control laws.[1] He was among the first to > advocate the beneficial influence of education in lessening crime.[2] > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cesare_Beccaria ------------------------------ Date: From: Subject: [none] Manitoba Métis reach deal on hunting and fishing rights The Canadian Press Last Updated: Sep 29, 2012 7:44 PM CT Read 14 comments14 http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/story/2012/09/29/mb-metis-deal.html The Manitoba government and the province's Métis have signed a deal to recognize hunting and fishing rights. The agreement was signed Saturday at the Manitoba Métis Federation's annual general assembly in Brandon. It recognizes Métis rights for domestic use in locations that have been agreed on by both the province and the federation. It also uses the federation's Métis Laws of the Hunt as the basis for developing new provincial regulations to govern Metis hunting and fishing. The province says cards that are issued by the federation will be recognized as a means for hunters to identify themselves as Métis. A 2003 Supreme Court of Canada ruling recognized the constitutional right of Métis to hunt and fish for food. Sticking points in various provinces have tended to focus on definitions of a traditional Métis community and how large an area each community can claim. Manitoba Premier Greg Selinger and Manitoba Métis Federation president David Chartrand released a joint announcement of the deal on Saturday. Chartrand noted that Métis laws and provincial laws will now be working together for resource management. The announcement says the new agreement lays out a process for considering Métis claims in other regions of the province that fall outside of the current ones listed in the deal ------------------------------ Date: From: Subject: [none] Subject: Re: Cdn-Firearms Digest V15 #286 References: <20120930002237.334DA24218E@scorpion.bogend.ca> In-Reply-To: <20120930002237.334DA24218E@scorpion.bogend.ca> Sender: owner-cdn-firearms@scorpion.bogend.ca Precedence: normal Reply-To: cdn-firearms@scorpion.bogend.ca Bears vs. Other Creatures: If I may make so bold, I pose the question:   "What makes bears so valuable and worthwhile compared with deer and rats?"  If someone wants a rat on his/her wall as a trophy, no one will complain.  If a deer's head is mounted above the mantelpiece, it is acceptable, but God forbid that a grizzly (Ursus Horribilis) should be proudly mounted.  As long as a species isn't endangered, then it must be seen as an acceptable, rational thing to do in relation to the best estimate of numbers of the species. Grizzly bears are not anything special.  Like coyotes, they are an unthreatened predator.  Q.E.D. Cheers, Kirk ------------------------------ Date: From: Subject: [none] Canadian Gun Digest . . Date: From: Subject: THOSE BADDIES are at it again . . Good heavens, six shootings in one week? It must be due to weak gun laws. Winnipeg is in the U.S.A., right? Len from Vancouver where they have switched to knives Unfortunately . . they have chosen ASSAULT KNIVES ------------------------------ Date: From: Subject: [none] At , you wrote: > >RCMP, GN plan door-to-door gun safety campaign >CBC News Last Updated: Sep 28, 2012 4:12 PM CT Read 4 comments4 >http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north/story/2012/09/28/north-nunavut-gun-safety.html > >The RCMP and the Government of Nunavut announced Friday they are planning a >territory-wide, door-to-door firearm safety campaign. Officials said the >campaign will focus on the safe handling and storage of guns. "If there's an >event happening in a community or people are drinking, if emotions rev-up >and anger starts to happen, if a firearm is safely secured and the key >removed then I think it enhances the safety for that moment," said Chief >Supt. Steve McVarnock, Nunavut RCMP commanding officer. Police and Nunavut >government conservation officers will do the door-to-door campaign. They've >already started the work earlier this week in Clyde River. Arviat and >Igloolik will be next. The campaign will also feature public service >announcements, videos, and outreach on community radio. So far this year, >Nunavut RCMP have responded to 73 calls where firearms have been involved. Involved as being used, or simply present? It seems the RCMP have danced around the "firearms have been involved" tree before. Is this just spin? ------------------------------ Date: From: Subject: [none] http://www.thestarphoenix.com/news/Civilian+pilots+provide+support+RCMP/7323538/story.html Civilian pilots provide air support to RCMP By Pamela Cowan, Leader-Post October 1, 2012 The RCMP's civilian member pilots go above and beyond to assist officers on the ground in high-stakes operations. Depending on the day or night, the aircraft they fly could be deploying emergency response teams, transporting prisoners, assisting with border patrols or doing surveillance. Michel Morin - one of three civilian member pilots in Regina - began flying for the RCMP in 2000. Over time, he's been involved in high-profile cases, including Project Faril. The unprecedented international investigation led by the Regina Integrated Drug Unit was launched in the spring of 2011. The takedown resulted in the seizure of cocaine valued $16.5 million in addition to 100,000 ecstasy pills valued at about $1 million. "We all had a share in (Project Faril)," Morin said proudly. "When things are happening on the ground, we're the eyes in the sky." Much has changed since RCMP Air Services took off 75 years ago. The service started with four twin-engine bi-planes and eight regular member pilots. Today, there are 78 pilots, more than 40 aircraft and 19 bases across Canada - two in Saskatchewan. Two RCMP aircraft are based in Regina. The Pilatus aircraft can fit up to nine passengers while the small Cessna seats two. In Prince Albert, the two pilots and one aircraft primarily do prisoner escorts. No longer do regular RCMP members train to fly the force's planes. "It cost a lot of money to get them all trained up," Morin said. The first civilian pilot was hired in June 2000. Gradually, as regular members retired or moved to other careers, civilian members took over as helicopter pilots, aircraft maintenance engineers and fixed wing pilots. Before Bob Watson signed on with the RCMP, the corporate pilot flew private jets. "This is not your average pilot job," the 29-year-old said of his current job. Some missions are tougher than others. Morin recalled the aerial search over Spiritwood for Curtis Dagenais. At the time of the search, Dagenais was a suspect in the murder of two Mounties and attempted murder of another. He was later convicted of first-degree murder in connection with the July 2006 deaths of constables Robin Cameron and Marc Bourdages, and attempted murder of constable Michelle Knopp. "I was a pilot on the surveillance search airplane with an observer on board," Morin said. Another long air search Morin participated in was the RCMP's manhunt for pedophile Peter Whitmore in 2006. "We searched for two long days," Morin said. With the help of community members and numerous RCMP officers, Whitmore was eventually hunted down at an abandoned farm east of Kipling The pilots transport prisoners deemed too dangerous to be on commercial jets. Not all of the pilots' duties are geared toward transporting criminals. During Prince Edward's visit to Saskatchewan in 2003, Morin flew the security detail. "We've flown the governor general and then we will often fly the advanced team for the prime minister if he's visiting," Watson said. His most thrilling assignment was monitoring the G20 summit in Toronto. He estimates 15 RCMP aircraft, including several helicopters, flew over the city. "We could see on the cameras when they were torching the police cars and we were reporting it to the guys on the ground," Watson said. The airplanes are costly to operate, but they save the RCMP money, he said. "We won't fly unless it's cost effective," Watson said. John Cooney, a corporate pilot who flew private jets across North America, joined the RCMP as a civilian in April. He said the RCMP Air Service is critical to the province's three detachments that can be accessed only by flying in. "We go as far north as Fond du Lac, Wollaston Lake and Stony Rapids ... We're able to give them service above and beyond what they would get having to rely on small commercial carriers," Cooney said. Border patrol is also vital in gathering intelligence that officers on the ground can use to investigate. "It's paid off over the last few years with some very large arrests," Cooney said. "When you see a large drug bust in the news, there's often weeks or months of background work that goes into the eventual takedown of that file. We provide a lot of the unglamorous hours of support that go into those files all coming together." ------------------------------ End of Cdn-Firearms Digest V15 #288 *********************************** Submissions: mailto:cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Mailing List Commands: mailto:majordomo@scorpion.bogend.ca Moderator's email: mailto:owner-cdn-firearms@scorpion.bogend.ca List owner: mailto:owner-cdn-firearms@scorpion.bogend.ca FAQ list: http://www.canfirearms/Skeeter/Faq/cfd-faq1.html Web Site: http://www.canfirearms.ca CFDigest Archives: http://www.canfirearms.ca/archives To unsubscribe from _all_ the lists, put the next four lines in a message and mailto:majordomo@scorpion.bogend.ca unsubscribe cdn-firearms-digest unsubscribe cdn-firearms-chat unsubscribe cdn-firearms end (To subscribe, use "subscribe" instead of "unsubscribe".)