From: owner-cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca (Cdn-Firearms Digest) To: cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Subject: Cdn-Firearms Digest V15 #526 Reply-To: cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Sender: owner-cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Errors-To: owner-cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Precedence: normal owner-cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Cdn-Firearms Digest Wednesday, January 30 2013 Volume 15 : Number 526 In this issue: [none] [none] [none] [none] [none] [none] [none] [none] [none] [none] [none] [none] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: From: Subject: [none] Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 08:04:13 -0600 From: "Joe Gingrich" Subject: Alabama police in standoff with suspect in fatal school bus ... ...shooting, kidnapping http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/01/30/driver-fatally-shot-aboard-alabama-school-bus/ Alabama police in standoff with suspect in fatal school bus shooting, kidnapping Published January 30, 2013 FoxNews.com The Alabama man police say fatally wounded a school bus driver Tuesday in an attempt to kidnap a 6-year-old boy has been hunkered down for hours in an underground bunker on his remote property, WSFA.com reported. The boy was last seen with the suspect. Local reports say it is unclear if the boy is with the man in the makeshift shelter. Police would not immediately confirm a hostage situation, the Dohan Eagle reported. The Dothan Eagle reported that neighbors identified the suspect as Jimmy Lee Dykes, 67. Michael Creel, who lives on the road where the shooting occured, said a girl told him that the shooter boarded the bus and told the driver that he needed two kids "between the ages of 6 and 8." Dykes, for his part, was scheduled to be in court Wednesday for a menacing charge, the report said. Police with SWAT teams and negotiators were at the rural property. Residents in the surrounding area were evacuated and a bomb squad was at the scene, the WSFA.com reported. Authorities have been in contact with the suspect and the boy is believed to be OK, WSFA said. The situation is considered delicate. County coroner Woodrow Hilboldt told The Associated Press the overnight standoff continued early Wednesday with tactical units, negotiators and other officers at the scene near a church. He said the suspect was believed to be in an area described as a place "to get out of the way of a tornado." The coroner said the victim, who was in his mid-60s, died of multiple gunshot wounds. He wouldn't release a name until family had been notified. Midland City police would not comment, and a dispatcher at the Dale City Sheriff's office told The Associated Press early Wednesday that the agency was not releasing any immediate details. Authorities from multiple agencies were on the scene and nearby residents were evacuated from their homes as a precautionary measure, said Rachel David, a spokeswoman for the police department in the nearby town of Dothan. "Authorities also confirmed the presence of a child at the scene but are giving no further information at this time," David said in a news release late Tuesday. Creel, who lives on the road where the shooting happened, said he went outside after his sister heard gunshots. "Me and her started running down the road," Creel told the Dothan Eagle. "That's when I realized the bus had its siren going off. Kids were filing out, running down the hill toward the church ------------------------------ Date: From: Subject: [none] Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 08:36:57 -0600 From: "Joe Gingrich" Subject: Mag pushes fake picture of Obama skeet shooting http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/mag-pushes-fake-picture-obama-skeet-shooting_698730.html Mag (The New Republic ? @tn) ) pushes fake picture of Obama skeet shooting President Obama recently told the New Republic magazine, "Up at Camp David, we do skeet shooting all the time." Today, after some suggested the president's claim might not be true, the New Republic tweeted a picture supposedly proving that Obama has gone skeet shooting: And here's the picture the magazine pointed to: @tnr: PHOTO: Obama shooting skeet at Camp David. http://whitehouse.gov1.info/camp-david/index.html .(from http://whitehouse.gov ) The only problem: the picture is a fake, and not hosted on the White House's website. Within minutes the magazine had deleted the tweet and admitted its mistake: The New Republic ? @tn OK, everyone. Apologies. Twitter sometimes leads to quick accidents. 5:36 PM - 29 Jan 13 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- UPDATE: This appears to be the original picture on which the fake is based: http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/mag-pushes-fake-picture-obama-skeet-shooting_698730.html ------------------------------ Date: From: Subject: [none] Date: Wed, January 30, 2013 8:49 am From: "Dennis R. Young" Subject: SUN NEWS: YOU'RE IN THE CROSSHAIRS SUN NEWS - PRIME TIME: YOU'RE IN THE CROSSHAIRS - January 29, 2013 21:20 Lawyer Ed Burlew discusses the new rules being imposed on gun owners by Ontario's top gun cop. http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/video/featured/prime-time/867432237001/yoursquore-in-the-crosshairs/2127803493001 ------------------------------ Date: From: Subject: [none] Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 09:18:17 -0600 From: "Joe Gingrich" Subject: Buchanan: America's role in a darkening age http://www.humanevents.com/2013/01/29/buchanan-americas-role-in-a-darkening-age/ Buchanan: America's role in a darkening age By: Patrick J. Buchanan 1/29/2013 02:26 AM When, in the 1950s, Nikita Khrushchev said, "We will bury you," and, "Your children will live under communism," Eisenhower's America scoffed. By 1980, however, the tide did indeed seem to be with the East. America had suffered a decade of defeats. Southeast Asia had fallen. The ayatollah had seized power in Iran. Moscow had occupied Afghanistan. Cuban troops were in Ethiopia and Angola. Grenada and Nicaragua had fallen to the Soviet bloc. Eurocommunism was all the rage on the continent. Just a decade later, the world turned upside-down. The Berlin Wall fell. Eastern Europe was suddenly free. The Soviet Union disintegrated. China abandoned Maoism for state capitalism. Now, 20 years on, the wheel has turned again - toward darkness. No longer do we hear chatter about "The End of History" and triumph of democratic capitalism, of America imposing her "global hegemony" or leading mankind into "a second American century." The hubris is gone, and triumphalism has given way to anxiety, apprehension, alarm. In an essay, "The Return of Toxic Nationalism," Robert Kaplan, a geopolitical analyst for Stratfor, writes that Western elites are even yet failing to see the larger, darker picture of our evolving world. These elites identify with the like-minded in other lands and "prefer not to see the regressive and exclusivist forces . that are mightily reshaping the future." Egypt and the Mideast offer "a panorama of sectarianism and religious and ethnic divides. Freedom, at least in its initial stages, unleashes not only individual identity but, more crucially, the freedom to identify with a blood-based solidarity group. Beyond that group, feelings of love and humanity do not apply." This is "a signal lesson of the Arab Spring," and out of it will likely come an "Islamist-Nasserite regime" in Cairo. "Asia is in the midst of a feverish arms race," writes Kaplan. Nationalism there is "young and vibrant - as it was in the West in the 19th and 20th centuries." Having consolidated the homeland, China is moving to annex her adjacent seas, and a formerly pacifist Japan is "rediscovering nationalism as a default option." ALSO: The bailouts that never end - let's talk about "excessive compensation" Nationalism is "alive and thriving in India and Russia," with New Delhi building armed forces that will be among the world's largest. "Race hatred against Muslims is high among Russians, and just as there are large rallies by civil-society types, there are also marches and protests by skinheads and neo-Nazis, who are less well-covered by Western media." A weakening European Union has spawned a "resurgence of nationalism and extremism in . Hungary, Finland, Ukraine and Greece." "We are truly in a battle between two epic forces," says Kaplan, "those of integration based on civil society and human rights, and those of exclusion based on race, blood and radicalized religion." How should the United States deal with this darkening age? "Because values like minority rights are under attack the world over, the United States must put them right alongside its own exclusivist national interests, such as preserving a favorable balance of power. Without universal values in our foreign policy, we have no identity as a nation - and that is the only way we can lead with moral legitimacy in an increasingly disordered world." But is this not itself utopian? A great religious awakening is taking place from Morocco to Mindanao. If these hundreds of millions believe there is no God but Allah and he has shown the way to eternal life, why would they, why should they, tolerate pastors and preachers from heretical and false faiths? How do we preach women's equality - an easy access to divorce contraception and abortion - to people who swear by a sacred book that says you kill people like that? How do we preach the blessings of racial and ethnic diversity to a world where, as Kaplan writes, ethnonationalism and tribalism are being embraced and people are willing to die to create nations where their own kind and their own culture are dominant if not exclusive? Before we put our "values" up there with our vital interests, as the object of our foreign policy, what exactly are we talking about? Do Americans in the grip of a social-moral-cultural war even agree among themselves on "values"? Our First Amendment protects freedom of speech to call the Prophet vile names. Our freedom of the press protects pornography. Our freedom of religion means all religions are to be equally excluded from public schools. Other nations believe in indoctrinating their children in their own beliefs and values. Where do we get the right to push ours in their societies? When did the internal affairs of foreign nations become the portfolio of American diplomats? Did James Madison's first minister to Russia, John Quincy Adams, demand that Czar Alexander free the serfs? "Without universal values in our foreign policy, we have no identity as a nation," says Kaplan. But that is not our history. America has indeed been about ideas, but America is now and has always been about more, much more than abstract ideas. ------------------------------ Date: From: Subject: [none] Subject: Norman Thomas - 1944 presidential candidate From: decline@pteradon.tera-byte.com Date: Wed, January 30, 2013 8:41 am Norman Thomas, The Socialist Party Candidate for Pres. of the USA said in a 1944 speech: "The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism but, under the name of "liberalism" they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program until one day America will be a socialist nation without knowing how it happened." He went on to say: "I no longer need to run as a Presidential Candidate for the Socialist Party. The Democrat Party has adopted our platform." He was right. The Socialists and Communists migrated to the Democrats. they don't need their own party any longer. There are so many things thrown into the media to confuse the masses, and most seem to uncritically swallow them all. Sorry to say that Americans are ready to be Happy Little Socialists and Communists. They have been Bought Off with Bigger Welfare Checks, Free Stuff, and Hand Outs. ------------------------------ Date: From: Subject: [none] Referring to the 1989 Montreal shooting... Justice Minister Douglas Lewis promised to look into legislation that could restrict the availability of semi-automatic guns. Yet he added, "We can't legislate against insanity." ------Original Message------ From: Drew McClure Subject: Quote Sent: Jan 30, 2013 12:06 Trying to find quote of Canadian Justice Minister who said something to the effect of "You can't legislate against Insanit"¯, any suggestions ? Thanks, Drew McClure ------------------------------ Date: From: Subject: [none] Subject: Re: Quote From: jyoung@aernet.ca Date: Wed, January 30, 2013 10:15 am After introducing Bill C68, former Justice Minister Allan Rock was asked if his legislation would have the effect of preventing another incident like the murders at Ecole Polytechnique in Montreal from ever happening again. He responded: "You can't legislate against insanity". ------Original Message------ Subject: Quote From: "Drew McClure" Date: Tue, January 29, 2013 11:48 am Trying to find quote of Canadian Justice Minister who said something to the effect of "You can't legislate against Insanit"¯, any suggestions ? Thanks, Drew McClure ------------------------------ Date: From: Subject: [none] Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 08:22:15 -0800 (PST) From: Bruce Mills Subject: Re: LA TIMES: Video mocks celebrity gun control PSA --- On Wed, 1/30/13, Dennis R. Young wrote: > Video mocks celebrity gun control PSA > By Rebecca Keegan - January 4, 2013, 11:13 a.m. > http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/movies/moviesnow/la-et-mn-video-mocks-celebrity-gun-control-psa-20130103,0,1459122.story > > After last month's Newtown, Conn., school shooting reignited > debate about > the causes of gun violence in the U.S., some in Hollywood > weighed in by > appearing in a public service announcement calling for > stricter gun control > measures. Now the star-studded PSA -- which features Jamie > Foxx, Steve > Carell, Jon Hamm, Cameron Diaz, Jennifer Aniston and others > -- has inspired > a parody video of those celebrities wielding guns in films > and TV shows. The > parody illustrates the awkward position Hollywood finds > itself in with > respect to gun violence: While many entertainers may support > tighter gun > control measures in real life, their livelihoods often > depend on playing > trigger-happy characters. And when confronted with tougher > gun laws, many > pro-gun lobbyists have in turn pointed a finger at the > entertainment > industry's depiction of violence. Better yet, write one up for "celebrities" who have armed guards... Yours in TYRANNY! Bruce ------------------------------ Date: From: Subject: [none] Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 08:58:15 -0800 From: Todd Birch Subject: re: "Nazi" references Anyone who think's it objectionable to use "Nazi" references when it comes to gun control laws hasn't read "Gun Control - Gateway To Tyranny"¯ by Aaron Zelman. When you read the page by page comparison of the 1938 Nazi Gun Laws and the US 1968 GCA , it will gob smack you. You will also recognize the same verbiage and terminology in OUR gun laws; copied from the US and some almost verbatim from the Nazi laws. When this was first suggested to me many years ago, I was of the opinion that it was another over blown conspiracy theory. Refusing to recognize it now is living in denial. That is not to say that each and every politician and bureaucrat has read the Nazi laws and decided to use them as a model, but evidently, SOMEONE has! And the police are acting as their agents, enforcing the laws of the land; in accordance with "policy guidelines"¯ and the current "Papiere, bitte ...."¯ mentality. You can get a copy from the office of the JPFO, along with other related topics. The JPFO makes the NRA look like a bunch of political moderates, but when reading material written by the likes of Aaron Zelman, you can hear the rumble of train loads of victims enroute to Auschwitz, see and smell the smoke from the crematoria. No, I don't think that the US or our government is building camps for the purpose, but the odious comparison stands. It has everything to do with power and maintaining it through control of the population. Think not? Where in hell have you been for the past few decades? ------------------------------ Date: From: Subject: [none] Date: Wed, January 30, 2013 11:00 am From: "Dennis R. Young" Subject: OUTDOOR WIRE: 5 Uncomfortable Truths About Social Media THE OUTDOOR WIRE - JANUARY 30, 2013 FEATURE: 5 Uncomfortable Truths About Social Media http://www.theoutdoorwire.com/archived/2013-01-30_tow.html Editor's Note: Occasionally, we share our feature position with folks in the industry we believe have important messages or discussion topics worth considering. Today, Jay Kumar checks in on why he's not sold on social media. --------------------------- If you are active on so-called social media, you're probably wasting your time and money. "Probably" because a few businesses and organizations might actually have a measurable, positive return from the effort (I've heard of exactly one in the outdoors, unconfirmed), but the vast majority don't. Here are some possibly uncomfortable yet accurate observations about this supposed boon to guerrilla marketing: 1. Social media requires a whale-load of effort for little or no measurable return. Financial return? Forget it: Remember GM pulling its ads from Facebook right around the Facebook IPO? In case you value your Facebook friend count, guess what: You can advertise super-cheap on Facebook and ramp up your friend count no problem. But for what? Most of your friends will never see your posts, and a much smaller percent will Like your posts - so...what? The impact is overblown and immeasurable. In fact, a couple of companies in the outdoors formulated business models around amassing Facebook friends. One is out of business, the other is headed that way. 2. Square peg, round hole. In other words, Facebook, Twitter and YouTube weren't and aren't set up for your purposes. Is there a way to make them work for you? Possibly, with YouTube the most likely. Not in all cases - or right now, not in most cases. 3. Like anything else, if you want even a 1 percent chance of succeeding with social media, it requires a strategy and a commitment. Bet you either don't have a strategy or you have a strategy created by a person or people who have never been successful with social media...because no one really has been. And remember: Success should not be measured by amassing friends and views. If you're committed to social media, great. At what levels in your organization is that commitment represented? In other words, is it a company commitment or a box you're checking? Results-wise it may not make a difference, but only one of those is a commitment. And do you have a business goal against it? 4. Another reason you probably won't succeed is that "media" word. Like it or not, you are in the media business. (This is all "digital media," so if you have a website, you're in the media business.) Are you qualified to be in the media business? Do you understand it? Does legacy outdoor media really understand digital media? With so much media bouncing around, your media - including social media - better be good/better/different to have any effect whatsoever. If not, you're just part of the terabytes of white noise out there. 5. Tech trends mostly are un- or under-evaluated herd-following. As in: "We need a website!" Or "we need a Facebook page!" Remember Google adwords? Lots of companies jumped on that bandwagon, but few made significant money from it (Google sure did!). I'll wind this up by quoting a line from the head of one of the best communications firms in the outdoors business. Recently he told me, "I got tired of telling [clients that social media] was a waste of time and money. They all want to do it, so we just ask them what they need and do it anyway." Right now social media is in almost all cases a waste of time and money. (Anyone remember MySpace?) Your media people won't tell you that, and for sure your ad/creative agencies won't tell you that. Just remember: You're in the media business, where there are better ways to spend that time and money...but not necessarily with outdoor media! Next time: Why you should start turning your back on your website. -- Jay Kumar You may know Jay as the guy who created BassFan.com and other fishing firsts like the statistical BassFan World Rankings of professional bass anglers, the BassFan Army membership program and a few other things. He's also known for his time on the popular ESPN show Loudmouth Bass, which he co-hosted with Mark Zona, and for being a B.A.S.S. senior writer for many years. Today, Jay runs www.BassGold.com , www.BassParade.com and www.SeriousBirdHunting.com . ------------------------------ Date: From: Subject: [none] Date: Wed, January 30, 2013 11:11 am From: "Dennis R. Young" Subject: TODAY'S QUOTABLE QUOTES From: liberty.quotes@centre.telemanage.ca Sent: January-30-13 12:08 AM Subject: Robert Dowlut, Benito Mussolini, James Madison "Restricting arms to the military and police eviscerates the principle that power should flow from the people to government, and turns the government into a master rather than a servant." -- Robert Dowlut, General Counsel for the National Rifle Association Source: Arms: A Right to Self-Defense Against Criminals and Despots, 8 Stanford L. & Policy Rev. 25 (1997). http://quotes.liberty-tree.ca/quote_blog/Robert.Dowlut.Quote.9EAD "The measures adopted to restore public order are: First of all, the elimination of the so-called subversive elements. ...They were elements of disorder and subversion. On the morrow of each conflict I gave the categorical order to confiscate the largest possible number of weapons of every sort and kind. This confiscation, which continues with the utmost energy, has given satisfactory results." -- Benito Mussolini (1883-1945), Italian dictator during WW2 Source: Speech delivered by Prime Minister Benito Mussolini before the Italian Senate, June 8, 1923. Reproduced in Mussolini as Revealed in His Political Speeches (London & Toronto: J.M. Dent & Sons Ltd., 1923), pp. 308-309. http://quotes.liberty-tree.ca/quote_blog/Benito.Mussolini.Quote.6581 "Of all the enemies to public liberty war is, perhaps, the most to be dreaded because it comprises and develops the germ of every other. War is the parent of armies; from these proceed debts and taxes...known instruments for bringing the many under the domination of the few.. No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare." -- James Madison (1751-1836), Father of the Constitution for the USA, 4th US President Source: Political Observations, 1795 http://quotes.liberty-tree.ca/quote_blog/James.Madison.Quote.C10F = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = WHAT DO YOU THINK? Rate these quotes! Click open the quote you wish to rate, and enter your comments. Did you miss yesterday's quotes? Click here: http://quotes.liberty-tree.ca/DailyQuotes = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Share these quotes -- spread them around! Post these quotes in your favourite blogs! Many have sacrificed their lives for our Liberty. Let us renew our commitment to Freedom. 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Their silence is speaking volumes. Maybe that is the reason for the CSSA's change of heart with "g) The Conservative government campaigned on scrapping Bill C-68 for years and gun owners everywhere supported it the government should stand and deliver". A short time ago they were telling us the reasons why the Conservatives could not "stand and deliver" and their reasons for standing behind the Conservatives "inability" to "stand and deliver". If crying were not in order at this point I could laugh at the stupidity. > -----Original Message----- > From: "CSSA-CILA E-News Bulletins." > Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 17:58:59 > Subject: [CSSA-CILA E-News] CALL TO ACTION – PROTECT YOUR RIGHTS! > > Canada’s firearms community must join forces to fight the > anti-gun civil servants who are trying to steal your rights. > > The Ontario Chief Firearms Office (CFO) has suddenly > introduced new Authorization To Transport (ATT) regulations that are > unfair, unnecessary and undemocratic. Responsible firearms owners must > make our voices heard on Parliament Hill, where all CFOs derive their > mandate. Let the government know why Canada’s ATTs are nothing more > than an exercise in useless red tape. ATTs do not help to keep > Canadians safe -- these redundant rules are intended to frustrate > sport shooters into quitting their heritage activities. > > The Canadian Shooting Sport Association (CSSA) is preparing > to take the CFO to court for imposing artificial transport regulations > on responsible owners of restricted and prohibited firearms. Under > ATT regulations imposed many years ago, the CFO has permitted > transporting firearms between the owners’ home and any approved > shooting range in Ontario in accordance with the federal Firearms Act. > Responsible firearm owners have been doing it for a very long time, > virtually without incident. > > The CFO’s new arbitrary ATT regulations quash the previous rights > conferred under the Criminal Code, and suddenly specifies that sport > shooters are only permitted transport to shooting clubs where the > permit holder is a “member in good standing.” New rules say sport > shooters may only visit shooting ranges where they have a written > invitation, and incredibly, they must surrender that invitation to a > police officer upon demand. > > Let’s go one better – write to Prime Minister Stephen Harper > and your Member of Parliament today. Politely explain why ATTs are > a waste of time and resources. If you are not an Ontario resident, > rest assured that all provincial CFOs are watching – they make up the >rules as they go and get away with it. But, enough is enough. Your >letter can make a difference – but your silence will certainly be > interpreted as your approval. Do not remain silent. > > Please tell our federal politicians: > > e) The federal government grants power to the CFOs and then refuses > to take responsibility for those powers. The CFO's don't make the > law, Parliament does. > g) The Conservative government campaigned on scrapping Bill C-68 for > years and gun owners everywhere supported it – the government > should stand and deliver ------------------------------ End of Cdn-Firearms Digest V15 #526 *********************************** Submissions: mailto:cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Mailing List Commands: mailto:majordomo@scorpion.bogend.ca Moderator email: mailto:owner-cdn-firearms@scorpion.bogend.ca List owner: mailto:owner-cdn-firearms@scorpion.bogend.ca FAQ list: http://www.canfirearms/Skeeter/Faq/cfd-faq1.html Web Site: http://www.canfirearms.ca CFDigest Archives: http://www.canfirearms.ca/archives To unsubscribe from _all_ the lists, put the next four lines in a message and mailto:majordomo@scorpion.bogend.ca unsubscribe cdn-firearms-digest unsubscribe cdn-firearms-chat unsubscribe cdn-firearms end (To subscribe, use "subscribe" instead of "unsubscribe".)