From: owner-cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca (Cdn-Firearms Digest) To: cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Subject: Cdn-Firearms Digest V15 #738 Reply-To: cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Sender: owner-cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Errors-To: owner-cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Precedence: normal owner-cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Cdn-Firearms Digest Thursday, May 30 2013 Volume 15 : Number 738 In this issue: SunnewsTV-"Red Tape Rhetoric" Farmer acquitted of producing milk without a license ... Police Shoot & Kill Grandfather While Responding To Burglary Call "Attacking beavers a concern in Belarus after man killed" DHS CAN'T LOCATE HUNDREDS OF DANGEROUS OVERSTAYED ILLEGALS Poll: 62 Percent of Americans Want Senate to Drop Gun Control Disneyland Employee Arrested in Explosion CBC - Priceless treasures at risk in gun amnesty, collectors say George Jonas: Defeating terrorism (by calling it something ... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 01:37:00 -0600 From: Larry James Fillo Subject: SunnewsTV-"Red Tape Rhetoric" Brian Lilley and Faith Goldy explain the arbitrary harassment of law abiding firearms owners by the Ontario CPFO regarding Authourization to Transport Restricted firearms to target shooting ranges. The CSSA is doing battle against a one man police state, who has created up to an additional 230 paper work crimes with which to charge or harass with licensed firearms owners. Ontario needs government reform badly, before such corruption spreads across the country. As the laws would allow that to happen, it is only a matter of time until it does. http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/video/red-tape-rhetoric/2416415098001 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 07:51:07 -0600 From: "Joe Gingrich" Subject: Farmer acquitted of producing milk without a license ... ...(property rights?) http://washingtonexaminer.com/farmer-acquitted-of-producing-milk-without-license/article/2530615 Farmer acquitted of producing milk without a license by Sean Higgins May 28, 2013 It is a sad fact of modern life that seemingly everything is both heavily regulated by the government and politicized. This applies to, yes, even cow's milk. Witness the case of Wisconsin farmer Vernon Hershberger, who was prosecuted for selling raw milk to willing consumers - in this case friends and neighbors: The Wall Street Journal reports: Jurors found Vernon Hershberger, a 41-year-old Loganville, Wis., farmer, innocent of producing milk without a license, selling milk and cheese products without a license, and operating a retail establishment without a license. He was found guilty of one count of breaking a holding order issued by the state in June 2010, which barred him from moving any of the food he produced without a license. The verdict means Mr. Hershberger can continue to sell his farm's products to members of the buying club he started, said one of his attorneys, Elizabeth Rich. He faces as long as a year in jail and $10,000 in fines for the one guilty count; a sentencing date has yet to be announced. "This is a huge win for food rights," said Liz Reitzig, a founder of Farm Food Freedom Coalition, a group advocating for greater consumer access to natural, unprocessed food. The case "should give small farmers renewed courage to continue to operate within their communities." Milk is commonly pasteurized to remove harmful bacteria, but advocates of raw milk say the process also wipes out many beneficial nutrients. Raw milk can be consumed on the farm but can't be sold legally in many states, including Wisconsin. The case followed a nearly four-year investigation of Mr. Hershberger and his farm, Grazin Acres LLC, by the state, the No. 2 dairy producer after California. During deliberations, which capped a five-day trial in Sauk County Circuit Court, dozens of farmers, food-rights activists and Hershberger family members filled the courthouse, sharing raw milk from Mr. Hershberger's farm. (Emphasis added.) The prosecution might have made sense if the consumers were not aware that the milk was not pasteurized but there is no evidence that was the case. In fact, it appears that people bought Hershberger's product precisely because it was raw. The milk was apparently sold to only 200 people that Hershberger considered "part owners in the farm." So, why was the state eager to prosecute Hershberger? As the Journal article notes, it is being lobbied to do so by the "Wisconsin Safe Milk Coalition," an industry lobbying group that doesn't like competition from raw milk farms and is trying to bully them. Meanwhile, many vegetarians and radical animal rights activists are anti-milk, arguing that drinking any form of it is both unhealthy and cruel to cows. People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals once went so far as to urge college students to drink beer instead. (As if they needed any encouragement to do that.) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 08:07:53 -0600 From: "Joe Gingrich" Subject: Police Shoot & Kill Grandfather While Responding To Burglary Call http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2013/05/28/police-shoot-kill-grandfather-while-responding-to-burglary-call/ Police Shoot & Kill Grandfather While Responding To Burglary Call May 28, 2013 FORT WORTH (CBSDFW.COM) - A grandfather checking on his neighbor is shot and killed by Fort Worth police. The shots rang out early Tuesday morning near Woodhaven Country Club, in east Fort Worth. Those close to the family say the victim lived nearby and heard his neighbor's burglar alarm. Neighbor Jerry Wayne Waller then apparently went outside to see what was going on. The 72-year-old man didn't even make it to the house across the street before he was shot. He died on his own property. The neighbors in the Woodhaven Country Club area and generally know each other pretty well. Becky Haskin, a former Fort Worth City Councilmember, lives in the area and said she believes Waller, ".was doing what neighbors do probably checking on the neighbor that the alarm went off." The elderly man, who was armed at the time, was shot and killed in his own driveway by police responding to a burglary call. "We heard five shots," Haskin recalled. They were just rapid fire one after the other." Speaking on the incident Fort Worth police Cpl. Tracey Knight said, "Officers felt threatened by the man with the handgun and he was shot." After the shooting Haskin said, "The police officers were sobbing uncontrollably and very distraught." For the normally quiet and quant neighborhood, Waller's death is devastating. Neighbors say he and his family have always been very involved in the community. "They are just a nice retired couple, that loved working in their yard, having family over, and grandkids," Haskin said. CBS 11 News has been trying to get more answers from Fort Worth police. The official response has primarily been that the shooting is "an ongoing investigation." CBS 11 has learned that the two officers involved were not hurt and have been placed on administrative leave. Fort Worth Police Chief Jeff Halstead released the following statement regarding the shooting: "The events that took place the early morning hours on May 28th will require a significant amount of investigative effort; however, we remain committed to working with our residents and making this process efficient and transparent. I ask for your patience, your understanding, and most importantly, your prayers for all involved." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 10:04:08 -0600 From: Larry James Fillo Subject: "Attacking beavers a concern in Belarus after man killed" Attacking beavers a concern in Belarus after man killed Former Soviet nation's beaver population triples in past decade to 80,000 The Associated Press Posted: May 29, 2013 7:27 AM ET Last Updated: May 29, 2013 10:26 AM ET Why would we risk our lives to record a video? A 60-year-old man killed recently after he was attacked by a beaver in Belarus is the most serious of a string of incidents, as the rodents have become increasingly aggressive when confronted by humans after wandering near homes, shops and schools. "The character of the wound was totally shocking for us medical professionals," village Dr. Leonty Sulim said of the incident, which was reported by several media outlets in April. "We had never run into anything like this before." The Belarusian emergency services said that this year, for the first time, they have received a rash of reports of aggression by beavers, which can weigh up to 30 kilograms. (Mathieu Belanger/Reuters) Once hunted nearly to extinction in Europe, beavers have made a comeback as hunting was banned or restricted and new populations were introduced. In Belarus, a former Soviet nation between Russia and Poland, the beaver population has tripled in the past decade to an estimated 80,000, according to wildlife experts. That has caused beavers increasingly to wander into populated areas, creating more grounds for conflict. The Belarusian emergency services said that this year, for the first time, they have received a rash of reports of aggression by beavers, which can weigh up to 30 kilograms. Officials have responded to some calls by sending out crews to drive away the animals, often by spraying them with water from a fire hose. Beaver hunting encouraged The fisherman, who has not been named at the request of his family, was driving with friends toward the Shestakovskoye lake, west of the capital, Minsk, when he spotted the beaver along the side of the road and stopped the car. As he tried to grab the animal, it bit him several times. One of the bites hit a major artery in the leg, according to Sulim. The man's friends were unable to stop the blood from spouting, and he was pronounced dead when he arrived at Sulim's clinic in the village of Ostromechevo. He is the only person known to have died from a beaver attack in Belarus. Wildlife experts attribute the upsurge in attacks partly to spring bringing about more aggressive behavior in young beavers that are sent away to stake out their own territory. Largely nocturnal, beavers can also become disoriented during the daytime and attack out of fear, according to Viktor Kozlovsky, a wildlife expert. Kozlovsky said the large beaver population is beginning to cause significant damage to forests and farms. The Forestry Ministry said it was encouraging the hunting of beavers, once prized for their fur and gland secretions, which were used for medicinal purposes. But since they're such easy targets near dams, says ministry spokesman Alexander Kozorez, "beaver hunting holds little sporting interest." "Hunting them is more like work," he said. ================================================= Shooting beavers is more like target practice. Their fur makes for terrific ear muffs. The old S.I.R. our of Winnipeg used to sell relatively cheap($12.-$15.) beaver fur (belly hair) ear muffs. They are much warmer than the polyester ones and can last years. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, May 29, 2013 1:31 pm From: "Dennis R. Young" Subject: DHS CAN'T LOCATE HUNDREDS OF DANGEROUS OVERSTAYED ILLEGALS NATIONAL SECURITY RISK: DHS CAN'T LOCATE HUNDREDS OF DANGEROUS OVERSTAYED ILLEGALS According to the Government Accountability Office (GOA), there are at least 266 immigrants who have overstayed their visas, now making them illegal and posing a serious national security threat. Not surprisingly, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) is unable to locate these potentially dangerous illegals. In testimony on May 21 before the Subcommittee on Border and Maritime Security and Committee on Homeland Security in the United States House of Representatives, Rebecca Gambler, Director of Homeland Security and Justice for GOA, said that DHS had identified at least 1,901 illegals who have overstayed their visas. Fourteen percent remain missing as of March 2013. The report said that 481 of the cases were dealt with by Immigration and Customs Enforcement's (ICE) Enforcement and Removal Operations (ERO) division. According to the report this was due to the fact that these cases presented "potential public safety threats." ERO is "responsible for identifying and apprehending aliens who are subject to removal from the country, detaining these individuals when necessary, and removing aliens subject to removal from the United States." Read More: http://patriot-newswire.com/2013/05/national-security-risk-dhs-cant-locate-hundreds-of-dangerous-overstayed-illegals/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, May 29, 2013 4:16 pm From: "Dennis R. Young" Subject: Poll: 62 Percent of Americans Want Senate to Drop Gun Control Poll: 62 Percent of Americans Want Senate to Drop Gun Control Emily Ekins|May. 29, 2013 9:30 am http://reason.com/poll/2013/05/29/poll-two-thirds-of-americans-want-senate President Barack Obama has vowed to keep pushing for new gun control measures and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said the failed gun vote in the Senate was "just the beginning." However, the latest Reason-Rupe national poll finds just 33 percent of Americans feel the "Senate should debate and vote on gun control legislation again," while 62 percent want the Senate to "move on to other issues." This data is surprising given earlier polls finding what appeared to be overwhelming support for expanding background check for firearm purchases. For instance, Gallup found that 83 percent of Americans favored a law requiring background checks for all gun purchases. The Washington Post/ABC poll found that 86 percent of Americans support a law requiring background checks on people buying guns at gun shows or online. Understandably the media punditry expected public outrage when the Senate voted down gun control legislation. However, a Pew Research Center poll found that 39 percent of Americans were relieved/very happy the "Senate vot[ed] down new gun control legislation that included background checks on gun purchases" while 47 percent were disappointed/angry. But then again, Gallup found that 65 percent thought the Senate "should have passed the measure to expand background checks for gun purchases." Subsequent to these polls Reason-Rupe asked Americans what they wanted the Senate to do next, finding that nearly two -thirds of Americans prefer the Senate to move on to other issues rather than continue to debate gun control. Eighty-three percent of Republicans want the Senate to move on, as well as 66 percent of Independents; however, a majority (51 percent) of Democrats want the Senate to debate and vote again. Women are far more likely than men to want the Senate to debate and vote again on gun control. While 72 percent of men want the Senate to move onto other issues, 54 percent of women agree, while 40 percent want the senate to vote on gun control again. This gender gap is not strongly correlated with marital status, age, or race, meaning that there is likely a true gender gap on this issue. Support for the Senate voting on gun control again increases with educational attainment, particularly among those with post-graduate degrees. The Northeast is narrowly divided 46 to 52 while nearly three-fourths of Americans in the West want the Senate to move on to other issues. Nationwide telephone poll conducted May 9-13 2013 interviewed 1003 adults on both mobile (503) and landline (500) phones, with a margin of error +/- 3.7%. Princeton Survey Research Associates International executed the nationwide Reason-Rupe survey. Columns may not add up to 100% due to rounding. Full poll results found here. Full methodology can be found here. Demographics and detailed tables are available here. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 21:40:09 -0600 From: "Joe Gingrich" Subject: Disneyland Employee Arrested in Explosion http://ktla.com/2013/05/29/toontown-evacuated-after-explosion-at-disneyland/ Disneyland Employee Arrested in Toontown Explosion 5 hours ago by KTLA 5 Web Staff ANAHEIM, Calif. (KTLA) - A Disneyland employee was arrested in connection with a small dry-ice explosion in the theme park's Toontown area, Anaheim police said on Wednesday. The employee was identified as an outdoor vending cast member, 22-year-old Christian Barnes of Long Beach. He was arrested late Tuesday and booked on suspicion of possessing a destructive device, according to a news release from the Anaheim Police Department. His bail was set at $1 million. "Barnes is cooperating with investigators and has indicated this is an isolated incident with unanticipated impacts," according to the news release. The explosion was reported about 5:30 p.m. on Tuesday in a trash can in Mickey's Toontown. Dry ice appeared to have been placed in a plastic bottle that was left in the trash can, police said. There were no injuries and no damage reported, but the incident forced the evacuation of the area. The Orange County Sheriff's Department Bomb Squad was called in to assist with the investigation. "We were only there a minute or two when a Disney person came up and told us we needed to evacuate the area," visitor Mark Rohrbaugh said. "There was probably at least 25 Disney personnel heading into Toontown as we were heading out," his wife, Nanette, said. Disney employees formed a line blocking the entrance to Toontown. "This afternoon, a small bang was heard in a trash can at Mickey's Toontown," Disneyland said in a statement posted to Twitter on Tuesday. "In an abundance of caution, the area was evacuated. There were no injuries and no reported damage. We are working with local authorities who are now on-site and reviewing." Around 7:30 p.m., Disneyland announced that Toontown had been cleared by police and was reopened to visitors. It remained unclear if the explosion was intentionally set off or if it was an accident, police said. "These are very common, unfortunately, in our neighborhoods, so we do respond to these quite a bit," said Anaheim police Sgt. Bob Dunn. Anaheim police were reviewing surveillance video and looking at Internet postings and social media as part of their investigation. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, May 29, 2013 10:24 pm From: "Dennis R. Young" Subject: CBC - Priceless treasures at risk in gun amnesty, collectors say CBC - Priceless treasures at risk in gun amnesty, collectors say Police in B.C. want illegal or unwanted firearms to be surrendered to them this June CBC News Posted: May 28, 2013 10:13 PM PT Last Updated: May 28, 2013 9:57 PM PT Read 24 comments24 http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/story/2013/05/28/bc-june-gun-amnesty-appraisal.html Police in B.C. will begin collecting unauthorized and unwanted guns in June as part of a firearms amnesty program, but some collectors worry that pieces of history will be destroyed in the process. The B.C. government announced the month-long firearms amnesty program in February, and said the initiative would help remove guns from communities and reduce the risk that they would fall into the hands of criminals. Ron Tyson, president of the Historical Arms Collectors Society of B.C., supports the principle of a gun amnesty surrender, but says most crimes aren't committed with century-old Winchesters. "I think, with any firearm. they should get some knowledgeable advice on it before they turn it in," Tyson said. Linda Haynes Baggaley and her family run Canada's oldest gun auction out of Red Deer, Alta. She says Bud Haynes & Co. Auctioneers is already fielding questions out of B.C. ahead of next month's amnesty, such as whether an old Nazi pistol brought back from the Second World War might be worth something. "A German Luger, in fact, can run anywhere from $600 to $1,500, to $2,000 depending on what it is," she said. Losses through panic Haynes Baggaley says many people turn in weapons they've either found or inherited because they're afraid of breaking the law. "People don't realize there's an option to have them sold. Sometimes people panic because they receive a registered letter or they're just afraid of repercussions," she said. "We've seen cases where we've told people they can sell it, but they still chose to destroy it because they have that fear of the police and of prosecution," she said. Some police officers will tell families to have weapons appraised before they're destroyed as part of an amnesty, and in Alberta in 2006, police said they would donate historically significant guns to museums. That gun amnesty drive also brought in a complaint from a Calgary woman, who said a police officer wouldn't take her surrendered guns, and instead returned when he was off-duty to purchase them for himself. In B.C.'s 2006 amnesty program, police collected: more than 96,500 rounds of ammunition; 3,213 handguns, rifles, and other firearms; an M-16 assault rifle; and a rocket launcher. Police said anyone wishing to surrender ammunition or weapons, including imitation or replica guns, should not transport the items themselves, and should instead contact local police and arrange for officers to visit for a pick-up. Police also say that the amnesty from prosecution relating to unlicensed or illegal weapons will not apply to any weapons that police find have been already used for a criminal purpose. According to the RCMP, about 5.3 per cent of British Columbians have a firearms licence, which is slightly below the national average of 5.7 per cent. With files from the CBC's Jason Proctor ------------------------------------- Police to announce new B.C. gun amnesty program By Mike Hager, Vancouver Sun May 28, 2013 5:30 PM http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Police+announce+amnesty+program/8445354/story.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 23:19:49 -0600 From: Larry James Fillo Subject: George Jonas: Defeating terrorism (by calling it something ... ...else)"-N.P. "What weapons does a jihadi need?" might be a subheading. However, if they did want say... firearms they have compatriots here who obviously have not trouble accessing firearms to assist in their criminal enterprise crime in Toronto. But once they have imbibed the ideology, Jonas is correct in noting that anyone can obtain box cutters, meat cleavers and pressure cookers. The one item that Western governments fear to challenge them for and take away from the Islamist jihadis, is their ideology. After all, in Common-Law parlance it is mens rhea that makes a criminal commit a crime. It's the same with terrorism. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------- George Jonas: Defeating terrorism (by calling it something else) George Jonas | 13/05/30 | Last Updated: 13/05/29 4:01 PM ET After two assailants hacked to death an off-duty British soldier in London last week, they made no attempt to escape. Until police arrived — reportedly 20 minutes later — they invited bystanders to film them prancing around the beheaded body with bloody meat cleaver in hand and engaging in terrorist rhetoric. In the words of author-journalist Nicholas Wapshott, they talked into the phone-cameras of witnesses, “spouting Islamist hatred.” It must have been a temptation to characterize the incident as an act of Islamist terrorism, but the British authorities didn’t succumb. As Wapshott writes with evident approval, “The British prime minister, David Cameron, his colleagues, and top officials and police have been careful not to jump to conclusions.” This admirable reticence has enabled them, in Wapshott’s words, to avoid “the rush to judgment that so many in the United States urged on the Obama administration in describing the motivation of the killers of ambassador Chris Stevens in Benghazi.” We are in a new ballgame. I’m going to call it — well, actually I won’t call it anything yet. Let’s describe how it works first, and then we can decide what to call it. The new ballgame began a while ago, when Jihadist leaders said to themselves and to some followers: “Wait a minute. Guess what? We have done it. “You can stop rubbing Aladdin’s lamp. Look, the Genie is out of the bottle. Good luck to anyone trying to stuff it back. “You, faithful Jihadists, are the Genie, each and every one of you. We have conjured you up, released you, called you into being. Now go. You know our wishes; carry them out. “You don’t need detailed instructions. The time has come for do-it-yourself Jihad. Why should we hatch plots? You know who the enemy is and you know what do with him. Do it.” And when some in their own ranks said “Don’t be ridiculous; if you do it this way, you invite chaos,” the Elders of Terror answered: “So? Chaos is good. From chaos grows a new order.” Jihad’s greybeards asked a key question: “When is any hunted animal vulnerable?” And they answered accurately: “When it stirs.” Weapons? Every store sells box cutters, and pressure cookers, and meat cleavers And they said to each other: “When are we, Jihadists, vulnerable? It’s when we plan, when we organize. It’s when we train new Jihadists, when we travel, raise funds, smuggle arms — when we do things, when we engage in what infidel security calls ‘traffic.’ That’s when the unbelievers find us. That’s when they arrest us if we’re in New Jersey or Ontario, or they send commandos, Navy Seals, or drones to kill us if we stay in Pakistan or the Hindu Kush. “So we reduce the traffic. We reduce it drastically. We talk less; we’ve talked enough. We travel less; we’ve travelled enough. We raise fewer funds; we’ve raised enough. “Where will the money come from? Why, Jihadists have jobs, and if they don’t, they have welfare. Jihad isn’t an employment agency. Weapons? Every store sells box cutters, and pressure cookers, and meat cleavers. Jihad isn’t an arms dealer. What weapons does a believer need? A meat cleaver did it in London last week, a pressure cooker in Boston, a few box cutters in New York and Washington 12 years ago.” Radicalization is by no means assured, and it might even backfire on the Jihadists, but some fanatics are willing to take a chance There are two advantages to self-service Jihad from the terrorist’s point of view. If he does less, he’s less likely to get zapped. Whether President Barack Obama will, as he suggested in his last speech, reduce the number of drone strikes or not, the fact is that until now he only increased them. The Bush administration launched one strike every 40 days; the Obama-administration launched one every four days. Making the world safer for the Elders of Terror is one consequence of making terror a cottage-industry. The other plus is that letting grass-roots terrorism come to the fore might radicalize a segment of the population that until now seemed Jihad-resistant — that is, the actual 90-plus-percent of Muslims in the west. Radicalization is by no means assured, and it might even backfire on the Jihadists, but some fanatics are willing to take a chance. The most curious effect of do-it-yourself terrorism may be on the authorities. It may lead them to believe that they have defeated the terrorists, or at least have them on the run. They will believe that at the very time when the Jihadists are most successful at widening their popular base. How? Simple. By concluding that lone wolves are crazies, not terrorists. After arresting a man with a bloodied meat cleaver in his hand shouting Islamist venom next to a beheaded victim, Wapshott quotes the police chief as saying: “I understand people want answers, but I must stress we are in the early stages of investigations.” Wapshott sees the chief’s point. “Merely shouting ‘Allah is good!’ as the London killers did, does not define a crime as an act of terrorism,” he writes. I also see the chief’s point. There are two ways of eliminating terror (or any crime.) The hard way is to eradicate it, the easy way is to reclassify it. Yes, I think we may be on our way to winning the war on terror. The easy way. ------------------------------ End of Cdn-Firearms Digest V15 #738 *********************************** Submissions: mailto:cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Mailing List Commands: mailto:majordomo@scorpion.bogend.ca Moderator email: mailto:owner-cdn-firearms@scorpion.bogend.ca List owner: mailto:owner-cdn-firearms@scorpion.bogend.ca FAQ list: http://www.canfirearms/Skeeter/Faq/cfd-faq1.html Web Site: http://www.canfirearms.ca CFDigest Archives: http://www.canfirearms.ca/archives To unsubscribe from _all_ the lists, put the next four lines in a message and mailto:majordomo@scorpion.bogend.ca unsubscribe cdn-firearms-digest unsubscribe cdn-firearms-chat unsubscribe cdn-firearms end (To subscribe, use "subscribe" instead of "unsubscribe".)