From: owner-cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca (Cdn-Firearms Digest) To: cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Subject: Cdn-Firearms Digest V15 #824 Reply-To: cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Sender: owner-cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Errors-To: owner-cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Precedence: normal owner-cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Cdn-Firearms Digest Thursday, July 18 2013 Volume 15 : Number 824 In this issue: Re: Cdn-Firearms Digest V15 #817 Re: Cdn-Firearms Digest V15 #817 Re: Cdn-Firearms Digest V15 #817 CBC - PMO asked staff to supply 'enemy' lists to new ministers Sun Media to cut 360 jobs; close 11 publications CCF Freedom Update: RCMP sets high water mark for rights ... Police who lie: Illegal searches by Peel Police allow ... Survey Finds Law Enforcement United Against Gun Control ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 12:16:23 -0600 From: Larry James Fillo Subject: Re: Cdn-Firearms Digest V15 #817 A public notice of a meeting asking who to vote for and work for and donate money to in the next federal election will get noticed. An organized group can alter the results in a constituency. It can also catch on. Rural areas still have a sense of community. On 2013-07-13, at 9:09 PM, Cdn-Firearms Digest wrote: > Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2013 08:05:46 -0300 > From: mikeack > Subject: Re: Cdn-Firearms Digest V15 #815 > >> ...I had such high hopes, but high hopes only lead to a deeper sense of >> betrayal. >> >> >> I know of many firearms owners who will either not vote, spoil their >> ballots, or cast protest ballots for other parties in the next election. I >> may not vote in the next election either, and I have not missed doing so >> since I first became eligible. If I do vote, it's likely to be for the >> Libertarian Party. >> >> >> If Mr Harper wants my vote next time, and the votes of other firearms >> owners - it's not too late - he shall have to earn them. It will not >> happen automatically. >> >> Mark L Horstead >> Newmarket, Ontario > > > Brilliant letter Mark. My sentiments exactly. > > -- > M.J. Ackermann, MD (Mike) > Rural Family Physician, > Sherbrooke, NS > > mikeack@ns.sympatico.ca > > "Hope for the best, but be prepared for the worst". ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 12:20:47 -0600 From: Larry James Fillo Subject: Re: Cdn-Firearms Digest V15 #817 On 2013-07-13, at 9:09 PM, Cdn-Firearms Digest wrote: > > Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2013 13:34:37 -0300 > From: mikeack > Subject: Re: Cdn-Firearms Digest V15 #816 > > On 2013-07-13 09:33, Cdn-Firearms Digest wrote: >> Misunderstanding over gopher shooting brings RCMP to Foam Lake" > > Illegal transport for sure: Loaded gun in a moving vehicle. > > These incidents could disappear instantly by simply removing the > stupid, emotion-based prohibited status of suppressors. Then the > public would not be calling 911 for the simple sound of gunfire. These are legal in both the U.K. and in the U.S. of A. , it's hunters that are being scapegoated. Again, only a provincial gov't. lobby will get any reaction from the feds. The current federal government is anti-hunting. > -- > M.J. Ackermann, MD (Mike) > Rural Family Physician, > Sherbrooke, NS > > mikeack@ns.sympatico.ca > > "Hope for the best, but be prepared for the worst". ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 12:30:11 -0600 From: Larry James Fillo Subject: Re: Cdn-Firearms Digest V15 #817 The wording on this version is clearly spin, spin, spin. The feds blaming the morally innocent and in effect labeling gopher shooting as a "public menace". On a shooting range people shoot in a safe direction. If such a thing didn't exist we'd not allow them. Having the RCMP carry firearms in a locked trunk and only available with the permission of a supervisor, that could increase public safety. Hunting is under provincial jurisdiction but only when it is a Right will it receive protection from gov't. abuse. I'd wager dollars to doughnuts the Mounties had guns drawn and pointed on the Pest Control Officer. Col. Len Nickelson is spinning in his grave. On 2013-07-13, at 9:09 PM, Cdn-Firearms Digest wrote: > > Date: Sat, July 13, 2013 11:53 am > From: "Dennis R. Young" > Subject: CBC: RCMP arrest Pest Control Officer for shooting gophers > > CBC - Man with rifle was just town's pest control officer, RCMP learn > CBC News Posted: Jul 12, 2013 4:33 PM CST Last Updated: Jul 12, 2013 5:37 PM > CST > http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/story/2013/07/12/sk-pest-contro l-officer-rcmp-foam-lake-130712.html > > RCMP in Foam Lake were dispatched to check out reports of a man with a rifle > who was shooting at things in town -- only to learn the fellow was the local > pest control officer. RCMP reported on the incident Friday as a reminder to > communities of the importance of sharing information about the activities of > pest control workers, especially those using firearms. According to RCMP, > the Foam Lake incident took place Monday afternoon when two people placed > 911 calls about a man with a rifle driving around in a pickup truck. The > officers who responded found the man in a grassy field across from a > residential area, noting that a number of adults and children were standing > nearby. Officers turned out their emergency equipment and, when the man > emerged from his truck - rifle in hand -ordered him to drop it. The man > complied and the officers put the man in custody. They later learned the man > was shooting gophers in the area, as part of his job. No charges were laid > and the firearm was returned to the pest control officer and he was released > from custody. Police said officers will be talking with all communities in > the area to identify similar bylaw officers and protocol to avoid similar > type of situations from occurring. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, July 16, 2013 12:35 pm From: "Dennis R. Young" Subject: CBC - PMO asked staff to supply 'enemy' lists to new ministers CBC - PMO asked staff to supply 'enemy' lists to new ministers Information was to be part of transition binders, leaked email says CBC News Posted: Jul 16, 2013 9:13 AM ET Last Updated: Jul 16, 2013 1:09 PM ET http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/story/2013/07/16/pol-cabinet-shuffle-enemy-lists.html?cmp=fbtl Prime Minister Stephen Harper's office asked staff to include a list of "friend and enemy stakeholders" in their transition binders for new ministers appointed in Monday's cabinet shuffle, according to a leaked email. The email, obtained by CBC News and several other media outlets, was sent July 4 by Erica Furtado in the Prime Minister's Office and shows a checklist for what should be in the transition binders. "Who to avoid: bureaucrats that can't take no (or yes) for an answer" is on the list, as well as "Who to engage or avoid: friend and enemy stakeholders." The request for a list of problematic bureaucrats was subsequently dropped, according to another email sent a few hours later on July 4. The person who leaked the emails said that when some staff balked at the idea of coming up with the blacklists, they were cut off from further communications about the matter. The person also said staff were given examples of stakeholders that could go on the "enemies list" and they included environmental groups, non-profit organizations, and civic and industry associations with views different than the government's. Transition books and briefing notes for new ministers would normally include names of key people on issues, but dividing them into "friend and enemy" categories isn't common. The other items on the checklist were: • What to say in question period. • What to expect soon, hot issues, legal actions, complaints. • What to expect later, longer-term forecast. • What to do, status of mandate items, off-mandate items. • What to avoid: pet bureaucratic projects. • What to attend: upcoming events, meetings and FPTs. • Who to appoint: outstanding GiCs and hot prospects. • Private member's bills, lines and caucus packages. FPTs refers to federal/provincial/territorial meetings and GiCs refers to Governor in Council appointments, people who sit on agencies, boards and commissions. "While we don't comment on internal communications, we are collaborating with our ministers, especially new ministers, to ensure they are fully briefed so they can continue their work on behalf of Canadian taxpayers," said PMO spokesman Carl Vallιe in an emailed response to a request for comment. Harper appointed eight new MPs to his cabinet on Monday and shifted multiple ministers around to new portfolios. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, July 16, 2013 12:55 pm From: "Dennis R. Young" Subject: Sun Media to cut 360 jobs; close 11 publications Sun Media to cut 360 jobs; close 11 publications AP | Montreal July 17, 2013 Last Updated at 00:15 IST http://www.business-standard.com/article/pti-stories/sun-media-to-cut-360-jobs-close-11-publications-113071700011_1.html One of Canada's largest newspaper publishers is cutting 360 positions and closing 11 publications across the country. Sun Media Corp said today that its 24 Hours free daily newspapers in Ottawa, Calgary and Edmonton, Alberta, will be among the publications it will fold. The newspaper publisher says the plan is expected to yield annual savings of approximately USD 52 million. Sun Media says it made the decision to close the three 24 Hours newspapers because it wants to focus on a single urban newspaper in each market, except Montreal and Toronto. The company will continue to publish 24 Hours in Vancouver. Sun Media, which is a subsidiary of Montreal-based Quebecor Inc, is also closing eight publications in smaller communities in several provinces including three francophone publications in Quebec. ------------------------ Sun Media Closing 11 Publications - 360 Jobs Lost http://www.businessreviewcanada.ca/business_leaders/sun-media-closing-11-publications---360-jobs-lost Three publications in Quebec and free daily newspapers in Edmonton, Ottawa and Calgary are the latest in a string of print casualties directly related to the digital revolution. On Tuesday, Sun Media Copr., and Quebecor subsidiary, announced that it was shutting down urban dailies 24 Hours in Edmonton, Calgary and Ottawa, and eight other publications that will cut 360 jobs in the process. L'Action Regional in Monteregie, Le Magazine Saint-Lambert and Le Progres de Bellechasse are the operations in Quebec that are also getting the proverbial axe. The elimination of the publications is expected to save about $55 million a year when combined with operational changes, says the Company. Julia Tremblay, chief operating officer for Sun Media Corp. says, "In recent years, the print media industry has been going through an unprecedented transformation such as it has never seen before." "The management decisions we are making are difficult and highly regrettable, particularly the job cuts. However, the downsizing is necessary to maintain a strong positioning for our news media outlets on all platforms, and more broadly to secure our corporation's future success in an industry that is being revolutionized by the advent of digital." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, July 16, 2013 4:09 pm From: "Dennis R. Young" Subject: CCF Freedom Update: RCMP sets high water mark for rights ... ...violations From: Canadian Constitution Foundation email.update=canadianconstitutionfoundation.ca@mail11.us2.mcsv.net Sent: July-16-13 2:59 PM To: Dennis R. Young Subject: RCMP sets high water mark for rights violations - CCF Freedom Update Suspended rights let cops rifle homes to seize rifles High River homeowners are livid that their homes were searched by cops who seized their guns while they were blocked from returning to their properties after the recent Alberta flood. Politicians insist the police were justified because of the state of emergency. The CCF says our Charter rights are often in peril in times of emergency, and that under Alberta's Emergency Management Act, the Mounties had the bit in their teeth. READ MORE: http://www.canadianconstitutionfoundation.ca/article.php/377#.UeXCAo2Tjnh Derek From: Were the RCMP High River gun Seizures Unconstitutional? CCF Staff Lawyer Derek From speaking with Sun TV's Brian Lilley about the recent actions by RCMP officers to seize firearms from the evacuated homes of High River residents following the floods that hit the town. Derek weighs in on the constitutional protections against this sort of activity. WATCH NOW: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiBoFdTXqzM&feature=youtu.be READ THE REST OF THE CCF FREEDOM UPDATE: http://us2.campaign-archive2.com/?u=99ddf17099e8b3ba076a7d32b&id=ea67c7efd9&e=b3512c2cd7 You are receiving this email because you signed up for CCF Email Updates through the CCF website. Our mailing address is: Canadian Constitution Foundation 1830 - 52 Street SE, Suite # 240 Calgary, Alberta T2B 1N1 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, July 16, 2013 4:50 pm From: "Dennis R. Young" Subject: Police who lie: Illegal searches by Peel Police allow ... ...alleged gun offenders to walk free Police who lie: Illegal searches by Peel Police allow alleged gun offenders to walk free Judges in Peel Region have let at least eight alleged gun offenders walk free after finding police made illegal searches and, in some cases, misled the court to cover up the misconduct By: David Bruser News Reporter, Jesse McLean Investigative News reporter, Published on Mon Jul 15 2013 http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2013/07/15/illegal_searches_by_peel_police_allow_alleged_gun_offenders_to_walk_free.html Judges in Peel Region have let at least eight alleged gun offenders walk free after finding police made illegal searches and, in some cases, misled the court to cover up the misconduct. A "disturbing pattern," Justice Bruce Durno recently called it before tossing the case against Jahmarr Sterling-Debney, who was found with a .22-calibre pistol and faced a minimum of three years in prison if convicted. The judge said Peel officers Stephen Porciello and Michael Bishop broke the law by arbitrarily detaining, searching and arresting the suspect on Derry Road in Mississauga, and then attempted to mislead the court about how they seized the man's gun. "The public has an interest in having these serious charges prosecuted to a verdict," Justice Durno said but added the officer's behaviour was the more serious threat to the reputation of the justice system. "It is essential that the court (dissociate) itself from the police misconduct at the roadside and in court." Durno's ruling is yet another message from Ontario courts that police misconduct undermines public trust in the justice system and must be condemned. A 2012 Star investigation revealed more than 100 cases of police dishonesty in courts across the country. The series on thestar.com: Police who lie How officers thwart justice with false testimony http://www.thestar.com/news/investigations/police_who_lie.html Crown must now report police who lie http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2012/10/26/star_gets_action_crown_must_now_report_police_who_lie.html The articles, which also found Ontario had no formal method of reporting such incidents, prompted the attorney general to make a new policy requiring prosecutors in the province to do just that. In Peel Region, though, the problem continues. The Star found five recent cases where judges said Peel officers illegally searched suspects' cars and uncovered guns. Eight accused gun offenders were acquitted as a result. In these instances, officers followed hunches and found reliable evidence of crimes. Whether out of laziness, overzealousness or poor training, they violated laws put in place to protect citizens from abuse of police power. In two of the cases, officers gave misleading evidence in court after the Attorney General's new policy came into effect in January. All of the officers named in this story either refused to comment or did not respond to multiple requests for comment. Peel Police is looking into the issue after being notified by the Crown attorney's office of recent court decisions denouncing officers' actions and testimonies, a police spokeswoman said. "All of the cases you have identified have either been, or will be reviewed and the appropriate action taken." Following the misconduct of veteran Peel officer Sgt. Stephen Ceballo, a loaded handgun was excluded as evidence in two cases and the suspects walked. When reached at his home, Ceballo refused to comment. In March 2013, Justice Casey Hill found Ceballo misled the court about the shoddy arrest of suspect Adrian Thompson, a repeat gun offender found with a loaded pistol, marijuana and cocaine in his vehicle. After receiving a call about a man suspected to have a gun, Ceballo and three other officers approached Thompson in the parking lot of a Brick furniture store. They did not tell Thompson the reason he was being detained nor of his right to contact a lawyer. After they searched the SUV and found drugs and the gun and placed Thompson in cuffs, they did not immediately tell him the reason for his arrest. In court, Ceballo was argumentative, "shifted dramatically" when describing his reason for searching the car, and frequently paused and struggled for answers. "The sergeant's evidence was transparently and deliberately misleading as he sought to dodge the inevitable press of questioning establishing his absence of grounds and unlawful authority," Justice Hill said. After the judge's findings, Thompson, who had two prior gun convictions, walked free. "The disturbing aspect of these warrantless search cases is that they represent only a small fraction of the number of unlawful searches which evidently occur on a regular basis in Peel," said Thompson's lawyer Peter Bawden in an interview. "The intent of the court with these decisions is to enforce the rights of everyone in Peel to be free from unreasonable police searches." At his home in Brampton, Thompson, 28, who now works part-time as a forklift operator, said he carried the Glock 17 handgun because "I have enemies" and because "I had drugs" to protect. "Everything in the car was mine. The gun, the drugs. I admitted I put it there. There was no warrant. Peel cops, they don't like to follow protocol." The president of the Peel Regional Police Association said the cases should be viewed in the context of all gun offences before Peel's courts since 2010. "There are five cases being talked about - how about all of the other ones where everything was fine? Is this a disturbing pattern or are these just one-offs?" said Wayne Omardeen. While police officers can randomly stop vehicles to check vehicle safety or a driver's paperwork, they must otherwise have reasonable grounds to believe an offence is being committed to stop a car, detain a person or search a house. Mere suspicion of criminality is not enough. A year before Thompson's case was tossed, in April 2012, another judge in another gun case found Ceballo ordered the unlawful search of a suspect's car. After stopping the vehicle for running a red light, police discovered neither the driver nor passenger had a valid licence. Ceballo, in what he called a "teaching moment," directed the younger constables that the car be seized, towed and searched. But police had no basis to seize or search the car, Justice David Corbett ruled. "The supervising officer engaged in an investigative technique that should not be taught to junior officers," the judge said, adding that excluding the gun as evidence was "the best way to discourage this sort of illegal search." The suspects were acquitted. (Ceballo's investigative techniques also came under fire in a 2012 drug case. After the officer seized a package containing heroin, a judge ruled police did not have legal grounds to detain the driver or search his trunk. The judge said Ceballo "seemed as if he tailored his evidence to fit the facts." The heroin was excluded as evidence.) Other cases found by the Star include: Four men were acquitted of weapons charges in September 2010 after Justice John Sproat ruled their arrest and vehicle search was "unlawful," and the weapons seized, including a loaded rifle, were excluded. The judge also criticized an officer's evidence about an informant who tipped police off about the car, calling it "highly misleading." In a December 2012 decision to allow as evidence a loaded gun Peel officers found hidden in a car, Justice Durno said the evidence "demonstrated an apparent common, but incorrect, (belief) amongst Peel Region Police that an arrest provided grounds to search a vehicle without a warrant, which showed a disturbing ignorance of the law." In the case of Sterling-Debney, found with a loaded .22-calibre handgun in his car, Justice Bruce Durno found the officers "were going to stop and search the vehicle in any event based on nothing more than speculation or a hunch." The accused testified that just before midnight on June 23, 2012, he left his girlfriend's apartment, walked through the apartment building's parking lot and opened the trunk to look for his girlfriend's son's baseball hat. Then, while using his cellphone to call a friend, Sterling-Debney turned on to Rexwood Road and drove toward Derry Road, where he was pulled over by the two officers. They searched the car and found a loaded gun in the trunk. Why the officers followed the Honda and how they made the arrest was disputed at trial was. The officers testified that they stopped the car not because the driver was talking on a cellphone but because moments earlier they saw him put what they believed was a handgun in the trunk. They said their experience guided them to take the suspect and his weapon off the street. Durno found a number of major problems with the two officers' testimony. Like when, during the preliminary inquiry stage of the case, Porciello testified that the suspect sat in the Honda for two-and-a-half minutes before pulling out of the lot. If the officers strongly believed he had a gun, this would have been the time to approach and make the arrest, the judge said. "That that option was never discussed, if they honestly believed he had put a gun in the trunk, is incredible. It makes absolutely no sense to let the driver drive away in the car and potentially away from them or to choose an option that may have resulted in a high-speed pursuit." At trial, the officer tried to change his testimony about how long the Honda was in the lot before departing. The judge also noted Porciello was "combative . . . , argumentative, defensive, evasive and unresponsive . . . belligerent and defiant . . . (and) appeared nervous and fidgety. "It was not the adrenalin flowing that caused the nervousness. It was apprehension about his evidence, knowing some of the things he had committed to at the preliminary inquiry. When confronted with some of those comments, he tried to distance himself from them, not elaborate on them. . . . He was not a credible witness." Durno also noted the officer sometimes paused while struggling to come up with answers that would "assist his position." "That type of mental scrambling had the effect of attempting to mislead the court . . . . His manner of testifying and attitude . . . were most troubling." Sterling-Debney's lawyer, Jeff Hershberg, told the Star that the ruling shows a police force's pattern of conduct in such cases will factor into judges' rulings on future similar cases. "The public needs to know that one Peel judge after another is worried the Peel police have no respect for the Charter and the truth." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, July 16, 2013 5:06 pm From: "Dennis R. Young" Subject: Survey Finds Law Enforcement United Against Gun Control Survey Finds Law Enforcement United Against Gun Control 99 Percent Believe "Assault Weapons" Ban is Not Most Important Measure to Stop Mass Shootings. Published on Tuesday, July 16, 2013 Follow us: @Ammoland on Twitter | Ammoland on Facebook http://www.ammoland.com/2013/07/survey-finds-law-enforcement-united-against-gun-control/#axzz2ZFfLI6ds Charlotte, NC --(Ammoland.com)- PoliceOne.com released today the results of an extensive survey of about 15,000 active and retired law enforcement officers of all ranks and from departments ranging in size from less than 25 to more than 1,000. These results strongly show that law enforcement officers do not support President Obama's gun control agenda. They do, however, strongly support the Right-to-Carry by law-abiding Americans. The survey respondents are united in their desire for politicians to focus on keeping firearms out of the hands of the mentally ill and to reject unconstitutional gun control measures that infringe on Second Amendment rights. "The American people, and particularly the members of law enforcement, want politicians in Washington to stop pursuing a failed political agenda and get to work fixing our broken mental health system, improving school security, and getting criminals off the streets," said the executive director of NRA's Institute for Legislative Action, Chris W. Cox. The following are some key findings: . 99 percent said policies other than an "assault weapons" ban are most important to prevent mass shootings. . Almost 96 percent said that a ban on standard capacity magazines would not reduce violent crime. . More than 91 percent stated that the use of a firearm in the commission of a crime should have stiff, mandatory sentences, and no plea-bargains. . More than 91 percent stated they supported the Right-to-Carry by law abiding Americans. . More than 81 percent said that "gun buy-backs" do not reduce gun violence. . 80 percent believe legally armed citizens can reduce casualties in incidents of mass violence. . Nearly 80 percent said that a ban on private transfers of firearms between law-abiding citizens would not reduce violent crime. . More than 76 percent indicated that legally armed citizens are important to reducing crime. . More than 76 percent support the arming of trained and qualified teachers or administrators who volunteer to carry a firearm. . More than 70 percent said that a ban on "assault weapons" would not reduce violent crime. . More than 70 percent opposed the idea of a national registry of legal gun sales. . Nearly 68 percent said magazine capacity restrictions would negatively affect them personally. . More than 60 percent said that the passage of Obama's gun control legislation would not improve officer safety. Gun Policy & LawEnforcement Survey Results 2013 Read more: http://www.ammoland.com/2013/07/survey-finds-law-enforcement-united-against-gun-control/#ixzz2ZFingfQM ------------------------------ End of Cdn-Firearms Digest V15 #824 *********************************** Submissions: mailto:cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Mailing List Commands: mailto:majordomo@scorpion.bogend.ca Moderator email: mailto:owner-cdn-firearms@scorpion.bogend.ca List owner: mailto:owner-cdn-firearms@scorpion.bogend.ca FAQ list: http://www.canfirearms/Skeeter/Faq/cfd-faq1.html Web Site: http://www.canfirearms.ca CFDigest Archives: http://www.canfirearms.ca/archives To unsubscribe from _all_ the lists, put the next four lines in a message and mailto:majordomo@scorpion.bogend.ca unsubscribe cdn-firearms-digest unsubscribe cdn-firearms-chat unsubscribe cdn-firearms end (To subscribe, use "subscribe" instead of "unsubscribe".)