From: owner-cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca (Cdn-Firearms Digest) To: cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Subject: Cdn-Firearms Digest V15 #923 Reply-To: cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Sender: owner-cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Errors-To: owner-cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Precedence: normal owner-cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Cdn-Firearms Digest Saturday, September 14 2013 Volume 15 : Number 923 In this issue: Toronto police officer found guilty Accused killer told gun supplier to deny transaction re: BC Cougar Attacks I don't care who you are, that's funny NFA's THIRD LETTER TO THE RCMP PUBLIC COMPLAINTS ... Re: Wildrose's RCMP rants in fundraising pitch are nonsense "Pamela Wallin writes cheque to pay back Senate more than ... Gun Owners of America NEWS ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 08:31:56 -0600 From: "Joe Gingrich" Subject: Toronto police officer found guilty 'Cameras are the most formidable watchdogs of the police.' 'Don't go anywhere without one.' http://www.thestarphoenix.com/news/Adam+Nobody+applauds+police+officer+found+guilty/8907522/story.html Adam Nobody applauds as police officer found guilty G20 protester 'surprised' by verdict By Christie Blatchford, Postmedia News A couple of sharp claps of joy from a victim of Toronto police excessive force may have heralded a new era of informal civilian oversight. You might call it realcamera, where citizens with cellphone cameras are the most formidable watchdogs of the police. That brief applause, followed immediately by "I'm sorry," came Thursday from G20 protester Adam Nobody. The burly 30-year-old stage hand was listening as Ontario Court Judge Louise Botham convicted Toronto police Const. Babak Andalib-Goortani of assault with a weapon for his role during Nobody's June 26 arrest near the Ontario Legislature three years ago. The day was the most violent of the three-day weekend, which saw protesters snake through the city's downtown core and widespread destruction, including the torching of police cars, by rampaging Black Bloc rioters who mingled with, and took cover amid, peaceful demonstrators. "It's a great feeling," an elated Nobody told reporters outside court. "After three years, it's just surreal." He admitted he was surprised by the verdict. "We live in a system we all know that cops get off all the time," he said, "so yes, I can honestly say I was." The weapon involved was the officer's police asp, or baton, which he used on two occasions - in the first, aiming a single blow to Nobody's thighs, in the second, three more. It was never alleged that Andalib-Goortani caused any of the extensive facial injuries that led Nobody to become known as the "battered face of the G20" weekend. In fact, it was the roughness of other officers' actions in subduing Nobody - none of whom has been identified from the video nor charged - which appears to have played a key role in Andalib-Goortani's conviction. "If a police officer uses more force than is necessary in the execution of his duties," the judge wrote in her stinging decision, "that use of force amounts to an assault. If in using more force than is necessary, he employs a weapon, then he has committed the offence of assault with a weapon." She noted Nobody was "on the ground surrounded by officers who are crouched over him," punching, kneeing and kicking him, and that seconds before Andalib-Goortani delivered "that second series of forceful baton thrusts, one officer has just applied a knee strike to Adam Nobody's face." Thus, she concluded, Andalib-Goortani's baton strikes were neither proportionate or necessary. The judge also flatly rejected the 33-year-old officer's "explanation that he was responding to Adam Nobody 's resistance" and called it "nothing more than an after the fact attempt to justify his blows, rather than the reason for them." She also took a shot at the officer - and many others who did the same - for not wearing identification. "Curiously, although working in uniform," she said, "the defendant had neither his badge number nor name tag on." Andalib-Goortani testified in his own defence. Coupled with evidence from other officers who were on the front lines, it was clear the situation that day was volatile and even frightening. Andalib-Goortani wept in the stand as he testified hearing fellow officers on the police radio, saying they were being attacked or begging for help. Judge Botham also heard evidence that at some point in the chaotic day, a police dispatcher yelled, "Whoever's at University and College, don't walk - run!" Yet she gave short shrift to the fear factor, and also to the notion, traditionally accepted by the courts, that in a so-called dynamic situation, police must make lightning fast decisions. She also dismissed the vigorous attack defence lawyer Harry Black made upon Nobody's credibility. Black's cross-examination suggested Nobody's multi-million-dollar civil suit gave him a big dog in the race, and contradicted his flat denials that he had been wearing gloves (he was) or that he should have seen the violence around him. But the judge dismissed suggestions that Nobody had been more than verbally confrontational, and made no findings of credibility against him. Judge Botham pronounced the civilian video - there were four people who recorded Nobody's arrest and the clips that became evidence at trial totalled 102 seconds - as "limited but cogent." Andalib-Goortani will be sentenced Nov. 8. Because Crown attorney Phil Perlmutter proceeded by way of what's called "summary conviction", the maximum penalty he faces is 18 months in jail. Toronto Police Association president Mike McCormack said after the decision that lawyers are considering an appeal. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 08:38:44 -0600 From: "Joe Gingrich" Subject: Accused killer told gun supplier to deny transaction http://www.thestarphoenix.com/news/Accused+killer+told+supplier+deny+transaction/8907481/story.html Accused killer told gun supplier to deny transaction By Betty Ann Adam, The Starphoenix September 13, 2013 A man who sold a stolen shotgun to accused killer George Mitchell Allgood says Allgood told him after the killing that if police ever asked about the gun sale he should say it never happened. Antonio Good testified Thursday at Allgood's first degree murder trial that he obtained the stolen weapon from "some kid" after Allgood asked him to get him a gun. Good said the transaction occurred in the months prior to the July 16, 2006, murder of Susan Reinhardt, who was shot in her bed as she slept. Reinhardt's partner, David Ristow, suffered serious injury in the same attack. About a month after the murder, Allgood phoned Good and told him to deny selling the gun if he was ever asked about it. "I said, 'Why? Did you kill that girl?' and he said, 'Don't talk to me like that on the phone,'" Good testified. Court also heard the 2010 preliminary hearing evidence of Roland Scott, now deceased, who said Allgood took a few red shotgun shells Scott was throwing away. Shells found at the murder scene were red. Scott said he received a visit from Allgood and two stocky men in January 2010. He said Allgood reminded him about the shells and told him, "That never happened." Allgood was the father of Reinhardt's son and had been trying unsuccessfully to see the child. His trial at Saskatoon Court of Queen's Bench resumes Monday. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 09:26:29 -0700 From: Todd Birch Subject: re: BC Cougar Attacks BC has the most cougars of any North American jurisdiction. A friend of mine in Merritt was a well known cougar hunter, keeping several trained dogs for tracking. Vancouver Island is also a hot spot for cougar hunting due to the proliferation of coastal black tail deer. The incident Larry mentioned happened in the Princeton area and the lady was conforming to law by not packing her rifle since she had not renewed her hunting licence. When the cougar was found and shot, there was an outcry of rage from some who though it inhumane to shoot it! The thought was that she ought not to have been there. Unbelievable ..... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 09:29:12 -0700 From: j davies Subject: I don't care who you are, that's funny I don't care who you are, that's funny... > It is believed the cougar, a three-year-old male, died from spear > injuries, but a necropsy will also be performed on the animal to > determine what may have prompted it to jump on the woman. > Duh. Could the first clue be that a cougar is a predator and kills and eats things that are weaker than it? That's what they do. That's how they were created. Could it be that without weapons, humans become just another menu item on the predator's list? > One B.C. conservation officer is marvelling at the man’s bravery for > attacking a cougar with nothing but a spear. And the reason he had nothing but a spear? Thank you, Liberal Party. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, September 13, 2013 2:09 pm From: "Dennis R. Young" Subject: NFA's THIRD LETTER TO THE RCMP PUBLIC COMPLAINTS ... ...COMMISSIONER - SEPTEMBER 13, 2013 CANADA'S NATIONAL FIREARMS ASSOCIATION - HIGH RIVER FORCED ENTRY AND PROPERTY SEIZURES THIRD LETTER TO THE RCMP PUBLIC COMPLAINTS COMMISSIONER - SEPTEMBER 13, 2013 http://nfa.ca/news/nfas-third-letter-rcmp-public-complaints-commissioner-september-13 SECOND LETTER TO THE RCMP PUBLIC COMPLAINT'S COMMISSIONER - AUGUST 27, 2013 http://nfa.ca/news/letter-commission-public-complaints-against-rcmp-august-27-2013 LETTER FROM THE COMMISSION FOR PUBLIC COMPLAINTS AGAINST THE RCMP - AUGUST 13, 2013 http://nfa.ca/news/letter-commission-public-complaints-against-rcmp-august-13-2013 CANADA'S NATIONAL FIREARMS ASSOCIATION - TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 3, 2013 VIDEO ANALYSIS REVEALS RCMP TARGETING OF HOUSES WITH FIREARMS IN HIGH RIVER http://nfa.ca/news/video-analysis-reveals-rcmp-targeting-houses-firearms Canada's National Firearms Association has received the results of an expert analysis of the audio portion of video released to the media of the search of house number 619 in High River, Alberta. http://bcblue.wordpress.com/2013/06/28/redford-ordered-rcmp-to-enter-and-take-high-river-residents-fire-arms/ READ MORE: http://nfa.ca/news/video-analysis-reveals-rcmp-targeting-houses-firearms ------------------------------ Date: Fri, September 13, 2013 3:10 pm From: "Jim Smith" Subject: Re: Wildrose's RCMP rants in fundraising pitch are nonsense Danielle Smith has specifically and definitively denied that this is her work. It appears on her twitter account that these were quotes from HR residents mail that she has recieved that went out without that clarification. She says she had a "long staff meeting" and this will not happen again. Appears to be an internal screw-up not a hack ________________________________ From: Dennis R. Young To: FIREARMS DIGEST Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 7:52:18 AM Subject: Wildrose's RCMP rants in fundraising pitch are nonsense Wildrose's RCMP rants in fundraising pitch are nonsense BY DON BRAID, CALGARY HERALD SEPTEMBER 13, 2013 6:37 AM http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/Wildrose+RCMP+rants+fundraising+pitch+nonsense/8906434/story.html In the provincial election little more than a year ago, Wildrose almost became the government of Alberta. Now Danielle Smith's party, caught up in the emotion of High River flood trouble, is coming across like a survivalist group holed up somewhere in Texas. An astonishing thing happened Thursday, just as Municipal Affairs Minister Doug Griffiths was blasting Wildrose for its attacks on the RCMP over seized guns and broken doors. A pitch went up on the official Wildrose website, asking for donations so the party could buy radio ads to "tell the stories of those High River residents who had their houses looted and vandalized by those who should have been protecting them." To Wildrose, those villains are the Mounties. The language of the pitch is so extreme that I can recall only one precedent - Doug Christie's "Free the West" rants against Ottawa in the early 1980s, when he worked some Albertans into a frenzy through a wild-eyed separatist party called Western Canada Concept. If Wildrose continues down this rhetorical road, it too will be only briefly popular. The unrestrained attacks might comfort some angry people in High River, but they'll look weird and scary to Edmontonians, northerners, and a good many people in the south as well. By mid-afternoon, the fundraising pitch disappeared from the website. Smith said it was prepared by one of her staffers but never approved. The party didn't need it anyway, she said, because of all the response to Griffiths' attack on her the day before. But the statement was only taken off the website after Premier Alison Redford's operatives threw it up on Twitter and provoked an emotional response. Stefan Baranski, Redford's communications boss, found it "disgraceful" that any party would exploit flood misfortune to raise funds. The Wildrose pitch said the party wanted to raise $10,000 the first week to buy the radio ads. The happy benefit of a tax receipt for political contributions was made very clear. There was no promise that extra funds would not be kept for the Wildrose treasury. The fundraising angle is distasteful, if not disgraceful. But that's not the half of it. The pitch accuses the Mounties of intentional thievery and looting - not random mistakes, or even overzealous smashing of doors, but of staging a deliberate, purposeful crime spree under cover of a terrible natural disaster. "While the residents of High River were struggling to save their homes and families from devastating flood water, little did they expect that their homes were also in danger of being broken into and looted," it says. "Officers kicked down the doors of over 1,900 homes in the flooded town of High River and seized the private property of law-abiding citizens under the guise of maintaining public safety." To Wildrose, then, the Mounties were only pretending to protect the public. Kicking in doors - even if injured and unconscious people might lie behind them - amounted to crime. Asked if the Mounties did engage in intentional misbehaviour, Smith didn't say no - only that some of her constituents believe it, and she has a duty to represent their views. To lend any credence to the Wildrose scenario, you have to imagine RCMP officers sitting around saying "There's a big flood coming - let's go mess up this town! Let's steal us some stuff!" It's nonsense. Surely most Albertans will know that, even as they understand that full compensation must be paid, because any forced entries and seizures were collateral flood damage. But elements of Wildrose either believe this survivalist scenario, or promote it for their own ends. Either way, this is too ugly and irresponsible for Alberta politics. Don Braid's column appears regularly in the Herald dbraid@clagaryherald.com -------------------------- Wildrose party aborts anti-RCMP fundraising appeal BY JAMES WOOD, CALGARY HERALD SEPTEMBER 12, 2013 http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/Wildrose+party+aborts+anti+RCMP+fundraising+appeal/8906448/story.html A fundraising appeal that briefly appeared on the Wildrose party's website characterized RCMP officers as having "looted and vandalized" a flooded High River, fuelling the white-hot political battle over the Mounties' confiscation of firearms during the disaster. The Wildrose web page - posted on Wednesday evening and removed Thursday - made a pitch for donations to run radio ads that would pressure the Redford government to pay compensation for property damaged when RCMP officers entered homes. The ad says that while High River residents were struggling to save their houses and family from the flood, "little did they expect that their homes were also in danger of being broken into and looted. "Not by thieves or burglars, but by the very people charged with keeping them safe - the RCMP. RCMP officers kicked down the doors of over 1,900 homes ... and seized the property of law-abiding citizens under the guise of maintaining public safety." Wildrose leader Danielle Smith said Thursday that the party ultimately chose not to launch the fundraising appeal because it had already received had so much response on the issue and that the web page was posted in error by a staff member. The wording wasn't approved by Smith or her office, but it does represent "a sentiment that has been expressed by some High River residents," she said. "I'm sorry that the RCMP might have hurt feelings about that, but I think they have to deal with the fact that the perception of what went on in High River is one that residents feel very unsettled about," Smith said. But Tory cabinet minister Ric McIver went on the offensive, calling it crass politics to "milk money out of people suffering" and saying the language used by the Wildrose to describe the RCMP was out of bounds. "It's dishonest, it's unethical and they should be ashamed of it over there," McIver said. With the town evacuated in June, the Mounties seized unsecured firearms to prevent the guns from being stolen or damaged from High River homes. The RCMP say firearms were taken by officers during door-to-door searches for residents, pets and other potential hazards. Almost all guns have been returned, but the RCMP public complaints commission is now investigating the issue. In recent weeks, the Wildrose has focused on the controversy - especially the issue of compensation for affected homeowners - saying the total damage done by the Mounties hit $3.6 million. That, in turn, has attracted fierce criticism of the Opposition from the Progressive Conservatives, punctuated by Municipal Affairs Minister Doug Griffiths calling it "f - -ing embarrassing." The web page appeal referenced Griffith's profanity and said that, "Wildrose wants to be able to tell the stories of those High River residents who had their houses looted and vandalized by those who should have been protecting them - and we need your help to do it!" reads the appeal. Smith said the party was raising legitimate issues from her constituents while the Tory government has chosen to simply ignore the concerns. The Highwood MLA said she would "keep an open mind" about the Mounties' conduct, "but I also have to be cognizant of the fact that as an advocate for my residents, I have to put forward some of these stories." But McIver said Wildrose was simply trying to benefit politically by "riling people up." "If there are legitimate concerns, maybe address them in a responsible, ethical, honest way, which is not what's happening," he added. With files from Don Braid, Calgary Herald jwood@calgaryherald.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 19:31:58 -0600 From: Larry James Fillo Subject: "Pamela Wallin writes cheque to pay back Senate more than ... ...$100k in disputed travel claims" In my opinion Senator Wallin is an asset to both Saskatchewan and Canada. As for the Senate Committee in charge of expenses, questioning their ethics would be to presume that they actually have any. Similar comment would apply to the press gallery. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Pamela Wallin writes cheque to pay back Senate more than $100k in disputed travel claims Canadian Press | 13/09/13 | Last Updated: 13/09/13 5:54 PM ET Patrick Doyle/The Canadian Press/FilesIn a statement on Sept. 13, Pamela Wallin says she ”will not resign as a senator.” OTTAWA — Sen. Pamela Wallin has paid back her dubious travel claims, although she did so with gritted teeth, accusing some fellow senators of succumbing to a “lynch mob” mentality. The embattled Saskatchewan senator says she gave the Senate personal cheques Friday amounting to $100,600, plus interest. That’s on top of the $38,000 she has already repaid. Wallin sounded bitter about an outside audit that called into question a litany of travel claims spanning nearly all of her career as a senator, which began late in 2008. “I wish to make it clear. I was not treated fairly by the Deloitte review, which was not conducted in accordance with generally accepted accounting principles, nor have I been treated fairly by the Senate committee,” she said in a statement. “Evidence that casts doubt on the correctness of the amounts owing was either ignored or disregarded during the review.” The Senate called in the RCMP after auditors flagged $121,348 in inappropriate expenses. A Senate committee later determined Wallin owed another $17,621, bringing her total tab to $138,969. Wallin has denounced the audit as “fundamentally flawed and unfair.” “When I submitted expense claims, I did so in good faith, honestly believing that the reimbursement was appropriate. If mistakes were made, I am responsible for those, but there was never a deliberate attempt to thwart the travel policy that was in place at the time the claims were submitted,” Wallin said Friday. “Unfortunately, the Senate committee succumbed to a ’lynch mob’ mentality. There was no regard to procedural or substantive fairness. I am disappointed and angry about the way in which this matter was handled, and any implication that I behaved dishonestly.” Wallin is one of four senators in hot water over their expenses. The Mounties are investigating the questionable housing claims of former Conservatives Mike Duffy and Patrick Brazeau as well as ex-Liberal Mac Harb. Harb has since resigned from the Senate. But Wallin says she has no plans to follow suit. “I welcome an independent and objective review by the RCMP and I intend to co-operate fully with any such review. I have not done anything wrong. I am not guilty of any misconduct,” she said. “Accordingly I will not resign as a senator.” The Canadian Press Pamela Wallin’s full statement: As I promised I would, today I personally reimbursed the Government of Canada in the amount which the Senate’s Internal Economy Committee concluded I was not entitled to claim, together with interest on that money. Personal cheques amounting to one hundred thousand, six hundred dollars and ninety-eight cents ($100,600.98) plus interest were submitted to the Senate Finance Directorate and I have notified the chair of the Internal Economy Committee of this. Although I fundamentally disagree with the methodology used in arriving at that figure, particularly since the amount was calculated using newly created rules to examine past expenses, I do not want to burden the people of Canada and, in particular the people of Saskatchewan, by engaging in a protracted legal debate about the matter. I wish to make it clear. I was not treated fairly by the Deloitte review, which was not conducted in accordance with generally accepted accounting principle, nor have I been treated fairly by the Senate Committee. Evidence that casts doubt on the correctness of the amounts owing was either ignored or disregarded during the review. When I submitted expense claims, I did so in good faith, honestly believing that the reimbursement was appropriate. If mistakes were made, I am responsible for those, but there was never a deliberate attempt to thwart the travel policy that was in place at the time the claims were submitted. Unfortunately, the Senate Committee succumbed to a “lynch mob” mentality. There was no regard to procedural or substantive fairness. I am disappointed and angry about the way in which this matter was handled, and any implication that I behaved dishonestly. I welcome an independent and objective review by the RCMP and I intend to co-operate fully with any such review. I have not done anything wrong. I am not guilty of any misconduct. Accordingly I will not resign as a senator. I will continue to act for the people of Saskatchewan and Canada, fulfilling the duties of a senator that have been entrusted to me. I will make no further public comment at this time. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2013 09:54:04 -0600 From: Gun@bogend.ca, Owners@bogend.ca, of@bogend.ca, America@bogend.ca, "http://www.gunowners.org/"@bogend.ca Subject: Gun Owners of America NEWS From: Gun Owners of America http://www.gunowners.org/ Date: Saturday, September 14, 2013 Subject: GOA News: Five traitors is all it took It's been a busy week at Gun Owners of America. GOA representatives have covered the airwaves -- both radio and TV -- and have received frequent invitations from national outlets, including CNN and Fox News. This week, gun rights were in the news quite a bit: Much of it was encouraging; some was disappointing. What follows is a brief report. 1. Five traitors is all it took. Five. That's all the vote-switchers that anti-gunners had to muster in the Missouri Senate to kill a nullification bill BY ONE VOTE. Gun Owners of America had pushed the bill back in the spring when it was overwhelmingly passed by the House and Senate. Sadly, it was vetoed by Governor Jay Nixon shortly thereafter -- and the veto override fell just one vote short this week. See more of this story here 2. Larry Pratt routs the opposition on CNN. Sparks flew this week when Larry Pratt debated Jim Kessler of the anti-gun "Third Way" on CNN's Lead with Jake Tapper. Kessler was left speechless at points when Larry argued for repealing gun free school zones and eliminating background checks on gun buyers. "This is why I'm a GOA member," said one proud gun owner in response to Larry's performance. You can go to the GOA Facebook page here to see the rest of the chatter over this CNN debate on September 11. We will be posting the debate online and will alert you to it soon. 3. Defeated Colorado Senator Admits that Bloomberg should close up shop. We alerted you this week to GOA's involvement in the Colorado recall elections that were mostly driven by the grassroots. The reverberations from that election -- where two anti-gun legislators were booted from office -- has been felt from Colorado all the way to New York City. Prior to the election, one of the defeated Senators, Angela Giron, predicted what a defeat at the polls would mean for NYC Mayor Michael Bloomberg's group: "For Mayors Against Illegal Guns, if they lose even one of these seats, they might as well fold it up. And they understand that," Giron said. Of course, Bloomberg's group lost BOTH elections, not just one. This has not been a good year for Mayor "Big Gulp." Go here to see our report from earlier this week. 4. Time to double-down on anti-gun ObamaCare. By now, GOA members should have received their latest GOA snail mail report on defunding ObamaCare. The postcards provided are a very, very important part of our legislative strategy. (Remember how crucial they were to defeating the Toomey-Manchin gun control proposals in April?) Go here to start receiving GOA's in-depth reports and newsletters if you are not already receiving them. GOA will be providing further updates on defunding ObamaCare soon. 5. Stand with GOA! We need you to stand with Gun Owners of America. Each new member gives us a louder voice in Congress and around the country. Join GOA today or give a family member or friend a Gift Membership in GOA! ------------------------------ End of Cdn-Firearms Digest V15 #923 *********************************** Submissions: mailto:cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Mailing List Commands: mailto:majordomo@scorpion.bogend.ca Moderator email: mailto:owner-cdn-firearms@scorpion.bogend.ca List owner: mailto:owner-cdn-firearms@scorpion.bogend.ca FAQ list: http://www.canfirearms/Skeeter/Faq/cfd-faq1.html Web Site: http://www.canfirearms.ca CFDigest Archives: http://www.canfirearms.ca/archives To unsubscribe from _all_ the lists, put the next four lines in a message and mailto:majordomo@scorpion.bogend.ca unsubscribe cdn-firearms-digest unsubscribe cdn-firearms-chat unsubscribe cdn-firearms end (To subscribe, use "subscribe" instead of "unsubscribe".)