From: owner-cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca (Cdn-Firearms Digest) To: cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Subject: Cdn-Firearms Digest V15 #935 Reply-To: cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Sender: owner-cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Errors-To: owner-cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Precedence: normal owner-cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Cdn-Firearms Digest Friday, September 20 2013 Volume 15 : Number 935 In this issue: Sent to CBC Radio (Victoria) On the Island: Should Dr's CLIMATEGATE II (more data fudges) *NFR* My Last Day in Court VIDEO RECORD - HIGH RIVER TOWN HALL MEETING "Update: 10 arrested in connection to Saskatoon shootings" Myth: The long gun registry is still out there, somewhere SUN NEWS VIDEO: Alberta PCs fail to acknowledge High River ... How some Colorado plumbers stopped gun control in its tracks How some Colorado plumbers stopped U.S. gun control in its ... SUN NEWS VIDEO: GUN OWNERS TARGETED IN RCMP SEARCHES: HIGH ... NFA WORKING WITH MINISTRY OF PUBLIC SAFETY FOR BETTER ... COALITION FOR GUN CONTROL WANTS HIGH RIVER FLOOD VICTIMS ... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 22:09:33 -0700 From: "Frederick Hoenisch" Subject: Sent to CBC Radio (Victoria) On the Island: Should Dr's First, I intentionally used the word 'opinion' - not control. Second, I recognise that I want my letter to be read out on the radio I have to taper it by not being confrontational (as your reply does). As per the second part of your response, that's a pretty easy one that can be obtained / collected by everything from local newspapers (our community one has a map outlining certain crimes in the community over a period of time), requests to police, social workers, even asking realtors about 'bad neighbourhoods with high crime rates', etc... I don't think you'll be able to argue too strongly against it; although admittedly, I didn't provide any empirical evidence to support my claim. Best regards, Fred. > Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 08:32:39 -0600 > From: 10x@telus.net > Subject: Re: Sent to CBC Radio (Victoria) On the Island: Should Dr's > > And in return gun owners should have a say in how physicians are licensed > and governed in each province in Canada and sit on those boards as well. > Gun owners, as patients in the medical system can provide valuable insites > on how physicians practice and what rules physicians should follow. > > Also some are curious to know if there is any data or research to show > that lower income regions have higher levels of violence? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 08:39:20 -0600 From: "Joe Gingrich" Subject: CLIMATEGATE II (more data fudges) *NFR* http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/09/20/climategate-ii-scientists-pushed-to-hide-data/ EXCERPT: Published September 20, 2013 FoxNews.com CLIMATEGATE II: SCIENTISTS PUSHED TO HIDE DATA - Emails leaked to the AP show the U.S. and other governments pushed scientists preparing a new UN climate report due out next week to omit or downplay evidence that the earth's atmosphere has stopped warming for the past 15 years. From the wire - "Germany called for the reference to the slowdown to be deleted, saying a time span of 10 to 15 years was misleading in the context of climate change, which is measured over decades and centuries. The U.S. also urged the authors to include the 'leading hypothesis' that the reduction in warming is linked to more heat being transferred to the deep ocean." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 08:06:05 -0600 From: Edward Hudson Subject: My Last Day in Court My Last Day in Court Jack Wilson and I were in Provincial Court in Biggar, Saskatchewan, on Wednesday, 18 September 2013, presenting our argument to Judge O'Hanlon that the 1995 Firearms Act that Mr. Harper and his so-called Conservative Government now endorse is "ultra vires" (beyond the powers of) Parliament.(1) This case arises from 13 September 2003 (yes, TEN years ago) when the RCMP interrupted our duck hunt, issued Jack an Appearance Notice for unlicenced possession of a firearm, and confiscated his shotgun.(2) Ten years ago when Jack went to Court in Biggar to answer his criminal Appearance Notice, the Crown dropped the charges, yet kept his shotgun. After ten years a new detachment leader apparently wanted to clear out his evidence storage locker and had the Saskatchewan Crown Prosecutor call Jack into Court under Criminal Code section 117.03 for a forfeiture hearing. The Firearms Act provides for an "either/or" scenario. The police can charge us with: EITHER; a Criminal Code violation of section 92 "possession of a firearms knowing its possession is unauthorized" OR: use Criminal Code section 117.03 to confiscate our firearm. With a Criminal Code 92 charge we would have all the legal protections of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms - primarily the presumption of innocence, and more importantly, the right to a trial by a jury. When the RCMP use section 117.03 to confiscate our property, we have none of our basic Charter guaranteed human Rights. The onus shifts upon us; we must establish that we have a licence to possess our firearm. And since for the past ten years we have been telling the entire country that we refuse to submit to the firearms licencing scheme, we are burned toast in a mere forfeiture "proceeding". The Crown claims this is all that "proper procedure" requires. Our argument is that the Firearms Act violates the "Rule of Law". This either/or provision is the manifestation of arbitrary. At the beginning of the proceeding, without hearing a word from me, Justice O'Hanlon informed us that he agreed with a ruling of Justice Calwell of the Saskatchewan Court of Appeal "that s. 117.03 of the Criminal Code is intra vires Parliament."(3) I objected that I had not presented this argument before Justice Calwell. I explained I would be presenting an entirely new argument using the Charter's declaration that the "Rule of Law" is one of the foundational principles of Canadian law and that the Rule of law prohibits arbitrary laws. Judge O'Hanlon allowed me to present my argument. I highlighted the pertinent points of my written submission, emphasizing that this either/or scenario is by definition "arbitrary". For example: "When we speak of the ‘the rule of law’, ... We mean in the first place that no man is punishable or can lawfully be made to suffer in body or goods except for a distinct breach of law established in the ordinary legal manner before the ordinary courts of the land." Professor A.V. Dicey, An Introduction to the Study of the Law of the Constitution, 1885. "The rule of law means that government must never coerce an individual except in the enforcement of a known rule, the rule of law constitutes a limitation on the powers of government, including the powers of the legislature. … ." "The rule of law requires that the executive in its coercive action be bound by the rules which prescribe not only when and where it may be use coercion but also in what manner it can do so." "If bills of rights are to remain in any way meaningful, it must be recognized early that their intention was certainly to protect the individual against all vital infringements of his liberty and that therefore they must be presumed to contain a general clause protecting against the government’s interference those immunities which individuals in fact have enjoyed in the past." Friedrich A. Hayek, the Constitution of Liberty, University of Chicago Press, Chicago, 1960 "Dicey was adamantly opposed to the conferment of discretionary decision-making powers on officials. This, he believed, opened the door to arbitrariness, which is the antithesis of the rule of law." "The right to a fair trial is cardinal requirement of the rule of law. It is a right to be enjoyed, obviously and pre-eminently, in a criminal trial, but the rather ponderous language of this principle is choose to make clear that the right extends beyond criminal trial. It applies to civil trials, whoever is involved, … ." Tom Bingham, The Rule of Law, Penguin Books 2010 "When the laws themselves may be as arbitrary as you like ... then the “protection” that the individual get at the hands of the law has turned into arbitrary tyranny of the very type that we might have hoped government would function to prevent." "The wrong laws can kill us, and certainly impoverish us, at least effectively as no laws at all." (pp.138-139) Jan Narveson, You and the State, Rowman & Litttlefield Toronto, 2008 In the end none of this was to avail. Judge O'Hanlon, pleasant, patient man that he appears to be, rejected my argument and stood by this original position. The police can arrest Bruce and Donna Montague, confiscate their property, convict them, and send Bruce to prison for doing exactly what Jack and I have been doing 'Scot free' for ten years.(4) The police can do whatever they like and call it "discretion". And the Courts of Saskatchewan will not recognize this perversion of law as arbitrary. Please Note Well: Mr. Harper promised to repeal the Firearms Act.(5) The Conservative Party Policy pledges to respect " the rights of law-abiding Canadians to own and use firearms responsibly."(6) Mr. Harper could have - should have - repealed this monstrosity of a law this past April. I hold Mr. Harper accountable for the forfeiture and destruction of this firearm. Sincerely, Edward B. Hudson DVM, MS Secretary Proud unlicenced owner of a single-shot, Model 39, bolt-action Cooey .22 caliber rifle. Ref: 1. Biggar RCMP Firearms Confiscation http://www.cufoa.ca/articles/armes/armes_12_sept_2013.html 2. Appendix B - Notice to Biggar RCMP http://www.cufoa.ca/articles/armes/armes_12_sept_2013.html#b 3. Court of Appeal for Saskatchewan 2011 http://www.cufoa.ca/articles/armes/armes_05_october_2011.html 4. Bruce & Donna's Constitutional Challenge http://www.cufoa.ca/articles/montague/montague_25_feb_2010.htm 5. Mr. Harper's Promise to Firearms Owners http://www.cufoa.ca/articles/primeminister/pm_19_jan_2002.html 6. The Conservative Party of Canada Policy Declaration http://www.cufoa.ca/articles/primeminister/pm_19_jan_2002.html PS: Professor Narveson is a Canadian philosopher; I highly recommend his book, "You and the State". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_Narveson ------------------------------ Date: Fri, September 20, 2013 9:59 am From: "Dennis R. Young" Subject: VIDEO RECORD - HIGH RIVER TOWN HALL MEETING DANIELLE SMITH'S FORCED ENTRY AND SEIZURE OF PROPERTY TOWN HALL MEETING High River, Alberta - September 5, 2013 - Videos 2,3,4 http://nfa.ca/news/danielle-smiths-forced-entry-and-seizure-property-town-hall-meeting ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 01:03:29 -0600 From: Larry James Fillo Subject: "Update: 10 arrested in connection to Saskatoon shootings" No reference to the firearms license program or P.A.L. , Could it be that drug dealers don't obtain licenses to acquire and possess a sawed-off shotgun? Next thing you'll try to tell me that drug dealers selling crack cocaine don't have a licensed pharmacist dispensing it either. I'm shocked. Shocked, I tell you. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------- http://www.newstalk650.com/story/update-10-arrested-connection-saskatoon-shootings/133276 Update: 10 arrested in connection to Saskatoon shootings 51 firearm and drug charges laid so far Reported by Brent Bosker First Posted: Sep 19, 2013 1:55pm | Last Updated: Sep 19, 2013 4:02pm A total of 10 people have now been arrested in connection to a series of shootings earlier this week. Five people--three men and two women--were picked up near the Borden Bridge on Highway 16 northwest of Saskatoon on Thursday. Police say they found a knife inside the vehicle and charges are pending. Saskatoon Police say five people arrested Wednesday night following a traffic stop are also being charged in connection to the shootings. "We believe that those events are connected in some way to the shootings which occurred earlier this week, but the investigation is obviously very fluid and ongoing," said police spokesperson Alyson Edwards. At about 11:00 p.m. police observed a group of people getting into a taxi in front of a home in the 100 block of Avenue O South. The home was associated with drug and gang activity, a police release stated. Police stopped the vehicle a few blocks away and report finding a sawed-off shotgun, an imitation handgun and cocaine inside. Two Saskatoon men, aged 24 and 25, a 34-year-old Regina man and two 16-year-old girls were arrested and are charged with 51 firearm and drug related offences. Following the arrests, police returned to the Avenue O home, but a search of the residence failed to turn up any additional drugs or weapons. Police also said today a fourth victim from the Tuesday night shooting spree has come forward. The 24-year-old man checked himself into St Paul's Hospital Wednesday afternoon for gun shot wounds which he told police he received 18-hours earlier. The man's wounds were minor and were consistent with shotgun pellets, police said. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, September 20, 2013 10:50 am From: "Dennis R. Young" Subject: Myth: The long gun registry is still out there, somewhere Myth: The long gun registry is still out there, somewhere By Patrick Cain Global News - September 19, 2013 11:07 am http://globalnews.ca/news/851006/myth-the-long-gun-registry-is-still-out-there-somewhere/ The head of the National Firearms Association told The Hill Times Tuesday that the High River experience with RCMP gun seizures during the June flooding led to evidence that the long-gun registry still exists, despite legislation the Conservative majority government passed through Parliament last year ordering its destruction. National Firearms Association president Sheldon Clare said the association believes the registry's continued existence is related to the Quebec court case-and a court order there that prevented the federal government from destroying data on firearms registrations in the province until a final decision on Quebec's position that has a legal right to maintain its own registry from the federal records. I've heard this rumour before. The continued (secret) existence of the long gun registry could be a good thing or a bad thing depending on your position in the gun control debate. But like a lot of other rumours, it's much more interesting than what seems to have actually happened. This document*, which is the RCMP's technical explanation of how the destruction of the long gun registry was actually carried out, is dense reading, but at page 8 of the .pdf we see that between October 25 and October 29 of last year, programmers deleted records of about seven million non-restricted long guns owned outside Quebec. (More on the destruction process here.) Could this be an elaborate deception? As a look at the .pdf shows, it would have to be a really ambitious and thorough one. Occam's razor guides us away from that kind of suggestion in the absence of other evidence, but I guess it's possible. What the evidence seems to show is: Parliament ordered the destruction of the long gun data, the RCMP figured out how they could accomplish that without damaging other firearms data, and then did it. As for High River: We need to remember that firearms licence information is still available to police, that most firearms owned in Canada are non-restricted long guns, and that a search of licence information will lead police to licenced owners of long guns and to the guns themselves, along with all other kinds of guns. I really don't think it's any more complicated than that. (To be absolutely honest, I hope some cop, somewhere, kept a copy of the long-gun registry for criminal investigation purposes and quietly makes it available to investigators in major crime cases. If this was true, it would be a well-kept secret, of course. Not that I mean to keep the rumour going, or anything.) * I cut out the appendices to get it to fit in our static server --------------------------- THE HILL TIMES: Gun owners challenge feds over firearms program costs, transparency, dispute registry has been destroyed By TIM NAUMETZ - Last Updated: Tuesday, 09/17/2013 5:00 pm EDT http://www.hilltimes.com/news/politics/2013/09/17/firearms-owners-challenge-feds-over-firearms-program-costs-transparency/35959 EXCERPT: National Firearms Association president Sheldon Clare said, "This is one of the clues we found in High River, because one family went to pick up their firearms and the constable said, 'Hey, you have two here you didn't register,' and they were two that were newly purchased." COMMENT: Paper copy or digital the RCMP Constable knew exactly how many registered firearms were in that family's High River home! NEED MORE EVIDENCE: CANADA'S NATIONAL FIREARMS ASSOCIATION - TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 3, 2013 Video analysis reveals RCMP targeting of houses with firearms in High River http://nfa.ca/news/video-analysis-reveals-rcmp-targeting-houses-firearms EXCERPT: Canada's National Firearms Association has received the results of an expert analysis of the audio portion of video released to the media of the search of house number 619 in High River, Alberta. As a result of the analysis the NFA has learned that the transmission clearly says he's "located all the firearms." http://bcblue.wordpress.com/2013/06/28/redford-ordered-rcmp-to-enter-and-take-high-river-residents-fire-arms/ COMMENT: This means the RCMP not only knew the home had firearms but that they also knew how many firearms were in the home! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, September 20, 2013 10:56 am From: "Dennis R. Young" Subject: SUN NEWS VIDEO: Alberta PCs fail to acknowledge High River ... ...mistakes: Wildrose SUN NEWS VIDEO: Alberta PCs fail to acknowledge High River mistakes: Wildrose 8:26 am, September 20th, 2013 http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/sunnews/politics/archives/2013/09/20130920-082607.html Alberta Premier Alison Redford says it was the government's plan all along to compensate High River flood victims whose homes were damaged by the RCMP. But oppostion leader Danielle Smith is firing back, saying that had not been made clear at all until now. Smith said that before she raised the issue, the RCMP indicated it had no idea who was going to pay, and the province wasn't coming forward with a plan. The Wildrose leader said she's disappointed the premier doesn't seem to "acknowledge that something went wrong in High River," and that it's a "failure of leadership" on her part to accept that incidents like this simply happen in Alberta. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, September 20, 2013 11:05 am From: "Dennis R. Young" Subject: How some Colorado plumbers stopped gun control in its tracks How some Colorado plumbers stopped gun control in its tracks William Marsden, Postmedia News - Sep 20, 2013 | Last Updated: Sep 20, 2013 - 9:05 UTC http://www.windsorstar.com/news/some+Colorado+plumbers+stopped+control+tracks/8937162/story.html Adam Head and his brother Victor, two guntoting plumbers from Pueblo, Colo., were sitting around Victor's living room with a few friends last March pondering their next move. The two brothers had spent weeks campaigning against a proposed state law that would ban gun magazines larger than 15 rounds and would impose universal background checks on all private purchases at gun shows. But to no avail. The Colorado legislature had just voted to pass these restrictions into law and the Head brothers were on the warpath. While many Americans would consider Colorado's new gun laws too tame, many people in Pueblo County disagree. They view the laws as an attack on their second amendment rights to keep and bear arms. Their arguments aren't knew. In fact, they are typical of gun owners across the U.S. "The Second Amendment is the only one that secures the rest of them, freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom of the press," Victor, 29, said. "Without the second, those don't mean s---because they could take them away from you at any given time unless you can protect them with the second." "The main reason we don't like the bill is that it doesn't solve anything," Adam, 28, added. "All it does is hinder us law-abiding citizens." Rebuffed by the state legislature, they started planning a course of action that ultimately would fire a blast across the American political landscape so powerful that when a gunman killed 12 people at the Washington Navy Yard on Monday barely a word was uttered about gun control. In contrast to the aftermath of the Newtown, Conn., school killings, even the nation's biggest gun control champion, U.S. President Barack Obama, fell silent. The battle started on Victor's couch. "My brother was sitting on the couch and said, 'Well, this is what we're going to do next. Let's try to run a recall against the senator,' Adam said in an interview. No doubt about it, the Head family loves guns - every kind and every calibre. Married with no children, Adam has so many that when asked for the total number, he says: "Couldn't even begin to tell yah. Lost count a long time ago. If I can count 'em it means I don't have enough." Victor, 29, says he carries a small Ruger .38 in his pocket at all times. His brother, his sister, his mom and his girlfriend also are always armed. "Sometimes if I go to Denver or someplace where I feel I might be in a slightly more high-risk scenario I might carry two or even three guns," he said. "It kind of depends on my feelings." With a $4,000 loan from their 89-year-old grandmother, the two brothers launched the Pueblo Freedom and Rights Committee dedicated to remove from office their local state Democratic representative Sen. Angela Giron plus other senators in their area. Their petition quickly garnered enough signatures to hold recall votes in two districts. The battle quickly attracted national attention. The Mayors Against Illegal Guns, which is bankrolled by New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg, contributed $350,000 to the senators' campaigns. "Bloomberg had his filthy little hands in this very early on," Adam said. "We got the governor's phone records and saw that he was being called up by Bloomberg." The National Rifle Association also got involved, spending about $360,000 on media advertising that supported the recalls. "We didn't make a phone call and say, 'Hey we need money from you guys,'" Adam said. "NRA never actually gave us any money to run this. "We ran this on well under $100,000." Last week the Head brothers declared victory as voters kicked out Giron by a sizable 25 per cent majority. For the Head brothers, the battle's not over. They said their next challenge is to persuade the state Senate to repeal the new gun laws. QUESTION: Wasn't there once a political party in Canada that had a platform calling for recall of Members of Parliament who broke their promises to their constituents? Sounds like an excellent demoocratic REFORM. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 10:22:07 -0700 From: Len Miller Subject: How some Colorado plumbers stopped U.S. gun control in its ... ...tracks - Vancouver Sun Latest info . . When you are really alone . kicked in the face by your own police department . Gun confiscation for refusing a smart meter THE NFA selected lawyer proved to be a devious coward he turned me down on representation . He was carrying some prepared animosity . . I can't seem to get counsel ANYWHERE . . It also seems that the court WILL DISREGARD YOU if you appear without a lawyer . WHAT A DIRTY TRAIL THEY LEAVE WHEN THEY SET OUT TO DECEIVE LEN 144 On 2013-09-20, at 8:10 AM, Gordon Bader wrote: deleted to retain some confidentiality Len 144 PS Not in Canada you say . . pity How some Colorado plumbers stopped U.S. gun control in its tracks - Vancouver Sun ------------------------------ Date: Fri, September 20, 2013 12:57 pm From: "Dennis R. Young" Subject: SUN NEWS VIDEO: GUN OWNERS TARGETED IN RCMP SEARCHES: HIGH ... ...RIVER RESIDENT SUN NEWS VIDEO: GUN OWNERS TARGETED IN RCMP SEARCHES: HIGH RIVER RESIDENT - September 20, 2013 11:31 High River resident Jane White shares her own experience after the RCMP broke into her home during the summer's flooding. http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/video/featured/news/868018287001/gun-owners-targeted-in-rcmp-searches-high-river-resident/2683168789001 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, September 20, 2013 2:35 pm From: "Dennis R. Young" Subject: NFA WORKING WITH MINISTRY OF PUBLIC SAFETY FOR BETTER ... ...FIREARMS LAWS CANADA'S NATIONAL FIREARMS ASSOCIATION MEDIA RELEASE - SEPTEMBER 19, 2013 NFA WORKING WITH MINISTRY OF PUBLIC SAFETY FOR BETTER FIREARMS LAWS http://nfa.ca/news/media-release-nfa-working-ministry-public-safety-better-firearms-laws Canada's National Firearms Association is pleased to announce that NFA representatives met with senior staff members from the Office of the Minister of Public Safety Steven Blaney on September 18 in Ottawa. In the coming months we will be working with the Minister of Public Safety towards building common sense firearm legislation that respects the rights of law abiding Canadian firearms owners without compromising public safety. NFA President Sheldon Clare stated, "This government seems willing to move forward in making major improvements to Canadian firearm law. Our bad firearms laws have long needed change and the NFA stands ready to point out areas where improvements are needed." Speaking from Ottawa Canada's National Firearms Executive Vice President Shawn Bevins said "We are optimistic about this Minister's willingness to recognize that Canada's National Firearms Association can make a significant contribution toward easing the administrative nightmare and burden that the Firearms Act's former Bills C-17 and C-68 have placed on law-abiding firearms owners. The Government has recognized that honest citizens should not be the intended target of poorly written legislation that ultimately does nothing to enhance public safety." Bevins further pointed out that "There is a renewed interested in the research around Canadian firearms law that will certainly lead to an improved legal environment for firearms owners." Canada's National Firearms Association is this country's largest advocacy organization promoting the rights and freedoms of all responsible firearm owners and users. For more information contact: Blair Hagen, Executive VP Communications, 604-753-8682 Blair@nfa.ca Sheldon Clare, President, 250-981-1841 Sheldon@nfa.ca Shawn Bevins, Executive VP, 819-313-2887 shawn@nfa.ca Canada's NFA toll-free number - 1-877-818-0393 NFA Website: www.nfa.ca -30- GO TO THE "NEWS" LINK FOR TEXT OF OUR LETTERS TO THE MINISTER OF PUBLIC SAFETY http://nfa.ca/news ------------------------------ Date: Fri, September 20, 2013 2:43 pm From: "Dennis R. Young" Subject: COALITION FOR GUN CONTROL WANTS HIGH RIVER FLOOD VICTIMS ... ...CHARGED NFA MEDIA RELEASE - COALITION FOR GUN CONTROL WANTS HIGH RIVER FLOOD VICTIMS CHARGED - Friday, September 20, 2013 http://nfa.ca/news/media-release-coalition-gun-control-wants-high-river-flood-victims-charged COALITION FOR GUN CONTROL WANTS HIGH RIVER FLOOD VICTIMS CHARGED In a letter to Ian McPhail, Interim Chair for the Commission for Public Complaints Against the RCMP, Coalition for Gun Control President Wendy Cukier cites Criminal Code provisions which she says necessitate firearms storage charges against High River Alberta flood victims. (click here to view letter) http://guncontrol.ca/coalition-for-gun-control-letter-on-high-river-ab-situation-to-the-rcmp-complaints-commission/ According NFA Vice President Communications Blair Hagen, "Not only must High River Flood Victims have their doors kicked in, homes damaged and their property seized, now they must be subjected to the demands of the powerful and politically connected gun control lobby that they be criminally charged as part of their misfortune." Mr. Hagen added, "Canada's firearms storage and transportation laws are famously complicated, and designed for maximum potential for charges even when no threat to public safety exists. High River residents were put in an impossible situation due to the flooding of their homes, a situation that allows for the exploitation of Firearms Act regulations towards criminal charges which Ms. Cukier is now demanding". He continued, "It seems that the real purpose behind these regulations, firearms confiscation and criminal charge of victims - not public safety - has now been unmasked by the Coalition for Gun Control's demands. Hopefully, High River flood victims will be allowed to dry out before they are carted off to jail according to the wishes of the like of Wendy Cukier". Canada's National Firearms Association is this country's largest advocacy organization promoting the rights and freedoms of all responsible firearm owners and users. For more information contact: Blair Hagen, Executive VP Communications, 604-753-8682 Blair@nfa.ca Sheldon Clare, President, 250-981-1841 Sheldon@nfa.ca Shawn Bevins, Executive VP, 819-313-2887 shawn@nfa.ca Canada's NFA toll-free number - 1-877-818-0393 NFA Website: www.nfa.ca ------------------------------ End of Cdn-Firearms Digest V15 #935 *********************************** Submissions: mailto:cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Mailing List Commands: mailto:majordomo@scorpion.bogend.ca Moderator email: mailto:owner-cdn-firearms@scorpion.bogend.ca List owner: mailto:owner-cdn-firearms@scorpion.bogend.ca FAQ list: http://www.canfirearms/Skeeter/Faq/cfd-faq1.html Web Site: http://www.canfirearms.ca CFDigest Archives: http://www.canfirearms.ca/archives To unsubscribe from _all_ the lists, put the next four lines in a message and mailto:majordomo@scorpion.bogend.ca unsubscribe cdn-firearms-digest unsubscribe cdn-firearms-chat unsubscribe cdn-firearms end (To subscribe, use "subscribe" instead of "unsubscribe".)