From: owner-cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca (Cdn-Firearms Digest) To: cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Subject: Cdn-Firearms Digest V15 #960 Reply-To: cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Sender: owner-cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Errors-To: owner-cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Precedence: normal owner-cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Cdn-Firearms Digest Saturday, October 5 2013 Volume 15 : Number 960 In this issue: Attack makes case for spring bear hunt return: OFAH Ode to the CONfiscator Party of Canada Cats are the No. 1 cause of bird deaths annually: ... "Man pleads guilty to manslaughter in shooting outside ... HOW RCMP FOUND 3,000 PAGES OF RECLASSIFICATION DOCUMENTS British L129A1 7.62x51mm "True Patriot Love In All Thy Sons Command"-SunnewsTV -Ezra ... Farmers not signing on, Nova Scotia hunters say ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, October 4, 2013 9:41 am From: "Dennis R. Young" Subject: Attack makes case for spring bear hunt return: OFAH Attack makes case for spring bear hunt return: Ontario Federation of Anglers and Hunters By Sarah Deeth, Peterborough Examiner - Thursday, October 3, 2013 2:22:40 EDT AM - 64 comments http://www.thepeterboroughexaminer.com/2013/10/03/attack-makes-case-for-spri ng-bear-hunt-return-ontario-federation-of-anglers-and-hunters The Ontario Federation of Anglers and Hunters is advocating for the return of the spring bear hunt following Sunday's harrowing bear attack on a Peterborough resident. Lynn O'Connor, 53, was attacked on the Havelock-area property she owns with her husband Jerry as she walked her two dogs Sunday afternoon. She was rushed to the hospital with bites to her torso, arms and legs. She's since been released from the hospital and is recovering from her injuries. The Ministry of Natural Resources is still investigating Sunday's attack. Jolanta Kowalski, a spokeswoman with the MNR, said investigators have spoken to O'Connor and OPP officers, visited the scene and are trying to determine why the bear was acting the way that it was. Terry Quinney, provincial manager of fish and wildlife services for the Ontario Federation of Anglers, said Ontario's bear population isn't managed as efficiently as it should be. The spring bear hunt, cancelled in 1999, was a proven and effective tool in reducing contact between bears and humans and reducing the abundance of bears in an area, he said, and reinforced the idea that a human was something a bear should fear. "Bears should be afraid of people and should be wary of people," Quinney said. O'Connor and her husband suspect that she may have inadvertently stepped in between a mother bear and at least two of her cubs. A friend told them he saw a mother black bear cross onto their property with three cubs about six or seven weeks before the attack. The spring bear hunt targeted male bears, or boar bears, he said. Boar bears can turn into predatory bears when they get older, Quinney said, and become aggressive to humans, sows or her cubs. He said sows may be pushed out of their territory by an aggressive boar and venture into an area they would otherwise shy away from. Quinney described the cancellation of the spring bear hunt as unnecessary and unjustified, and done at the behest of a group of animal rights activists living in downtown Toronto. The hunt generated about $40 million in revenue for rural communities, and increased government profit as hunters bought up licences, he said. "It was good for people and good for bears," Quinney said. Bringing back the hunt is a daily conversation in parts of the province, Quinney said. Rick Mauro, MPP for Thunder Bay-Atikokan has announced his intention to introduce a private members bill that would expand the black bear hunt in Ontario. Quinney encouraged residents and hunters to contact their MPPs and lobby them to support Mauro's bill. Once the MNR determines the reasons for the bear's behaviour it will decide on a course of action, Kowalski said. She couldn't say what form of action that may be. That would depend on how the bear was classified. If investigators determine that the bear was predatory in nature than destroying it is an option, she said. The MNR has relocated bears in the past, but Kowalski noted that trapping and moving three, maybe four bears could be problematic. Kowalski couldn't be reached for comment on the OFAH's call for the return of the spring bear hunt. sarah.deeth@sunmedia.ca ---------------------------------------- FOR OTHER FIREARMS & OUTDOORS NEWS SUBSCRIBE TO NFA DAILY MEDIA REPORTS E-MAIL: news@nfa.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, October 2, 2013 10:17 pm From: "Joe Gingrich" Subject: Ode to the CONfiscator Party of Canada Date: Wed, October 2, 2013 10:17 pm From: "Dennis R. Young" Subject: SUN NEWS: Canada's refusal to sign UN small arms treaty ... ...sparks debate SUN NEWS: Canada's refusal to sign UN small arms treaty sparks debate BY JESSICA HUME | QMI AGENCY - 2:05 pm, October 2nd, 2013 http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/sunnews/politics/archives/2013/10/20131002-140540.html "We have identified major problems with the Arms Trade Treaty and its potential to affect Canadian firearm owners in several ways including both the cost and availability of imported firearms, parts, accessories and ammunition," NFA president Sheldon Clare said. He said the treaty "is intended to drive domestic gun-control agendas." "It contains provisions for universal licensing, mandates firearms registration schemes and provides methods to prohibit and confiscate handguns and semi-automatic firearms in countries where it is implemented." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wow! GOOO-OOOLY DAYS! That's terrible Would that Treaty be even "worser" than the Great Canadian Gun-Grabber's (Harper's) Bill C-68? Is CNFA trying to divert attention away from Haaarrrrppper's horrrible treatment of the Canadian firerarms community? Does Harper fund (grant) CNFA to "sweeten-up" his ugly anti-gun history and atrocities towards the Canadian firearms community with useful diversions to the UN treaty? Was Harper "swimming up stream" for the firearms community all the way from the Slave Lake to the High River GUN BASH & GRABS? Not accusing, but asking, eh? Shall we compare CNFA's objections to the U.N. Arms Trade Treaty to Harper's enhanced Bill C-68 1. '"C-68 PROVED REGISTRATION DOES LEAD TO CONFISCATION: The Liberals (and the Confiscators) broke their promise that registration would not lead to confiscation when they used Bill C-68 to ban 553,000 registered handguns without any evidence that these legally owned firearms were a risk to anyone's safety. Bill C-68 amended Section 117.15(2) of the Criminal Code giving the government such sweeping power that they could ban any or all firearms in Canada and not even the Superme Court of Canada could overturn it. On November 15, 1997, the Montreal Gazette quoted Deputy Prime Minister Herb Gray, " This could be the start of a global movement that would spur development of an instrument to ban firearms worldwide similar to our land-mines initiative."' (Garry Breitkreuz M.P., Yorkton-Melville, March 10, 2001) 2. "C-68 HAS INCREASED BLACKMARKET GUN SALES: The Justice Minister's (Mclellen) own User Group of Firearms warned her that Bill C-68 created so much red-tape trying to regulate legal gun sales that black-market gun sales were on the increase." (Garry Breitkreuz M.P., Yorkton-Melville, March 10, 2001) 3. "C-68 GUN REGISTRY IS RIDDLED WITH ERRORS AND USELESS TO POLICE: The Liberals have so badly bungled implementation of Bill C-68, that registration errors and licencing errors and non-complicance by millions of responsible firearms owners render data in the gun registry unreliable and useless to police in our communities. Even the government admits that 320,000 gun owners failed to apply for a firearms license. RCMP Supt. Mike Buisson advises 90% of registration applications have errors. -------- The gun registry is the biggest garbage collection system in the country." (Garry Breitkreuz M.P., Yorkton-Melville, March 10, 2001) 4. "C-68 HAS ALREADY COST AT LEAST ON LIFE: The Liberals defend their soon-to-be billion dollars boondoggle by saying, "If the gun registry saved just one lif, it would be worth it." In March, a man in Nain, Newfoundland who was prohibited from owning firearms went to the RCMP, picked up his rifle that they had been storing for him, and has been charged with killing a 15-year-old boy. The "aboriginal exemptions and adaptations" in Bill C-68 forced the RCMP to give the man his murder weapon. What do the Liberals say now that their gun registry actually cost one life? (Garry Breitkreuz M.P., Yorkton-Melville, March 10, 2001) 5. "C-68 HAS DIVERTED RESOURCES FROM REAL POLICING PRIORITIES: The 585 million wasted so far on the Liberals' fatally flawed gun registration scheme could have been used for important police priorities like a sex offender registry or a DNA data bank for all criminals. In the 1997 election, one of the Canadian Police Association campaign slogans was, "Register Criminals before firearms." (Garry Breitkreuz M.P., Yorkton-Melville, March 10, 2001) 6. "C-68 VIOLATES EVERYONE'S RIGHTS AND FREEDOMS: According to legal experts, Bill C-68 violates fundamental property rights protection guaranteed in the Bill of Rights, and also violates a number of Charter rights including: the right to privacy, the right to remain silent, the right to be secure against unreasonable search and seiqure, the right to be presumed innocent, the right to freedom of association, and the right to retain and instruct counse without delay." ------- (Garry Breitkreuz M.P., Yorkton-Melville, March 10, 2001) 7. "C-68 HAS TAKEN POLICE OFF THE STREET: The Liberals promised that the gun registry wouldn't take police off the street and wouldn't create a huge bureaucracy. In July, the Library of Parliament reported that the gun registry was employing 1,7744 bureaucrats, which included at least 368 RCMP personnel. The Library report did not include the hundreds of Firerams Officers working for provincial, regional, city and municipal police foreces. On September 21, 1995, Ontarion Solicitor General, Bob Runciman told the Senate Standing Committee on Constitutional and Legal Affairs: " In national terms, 85 million dollars would put another 1,000 customs agents on the border; 500 million dollars would put an extra 5,900 police officers on the street." (Garry Breitkreuz M.P., Yorkton-Melville, March 10, 2001) plus http://www.garrybreitkreuz.com/breitkreuzgpress/guns107.htm Breitkreuz's letter provides supporting documentation for twelve reasons why the entire Firearms Act has to be scrapped: (1) The Firearms Act violates the Charter of Rights and Freedoms in a dozen ways; (2) Government's Performance Report contains at least 12 inaccurate statements; (3) Cost-benefit analysis of the firearms program remains a Cabinet secret; (4) Entire 115-page report on economic impact remains a Cabinet secret; (5) Justice Dept. evaluation identified 90 problems with the firearms program; (6) Privacy Commissioner reports firearms program violates citizens privacy rights; (7) RCMP's Firearms Interest Police database collects information on witnesses and victims; (8) Government refuses to report "major additional costs" requested by the Auditor General; (9) Statistics Canada's annual homicide report proves the firearms program is off-target; (10) Government ignored the recommendations from the Minister's User Group on Firearms; (11) Government refuses to pay compensation for the value of the registered guns they ban; and (12) Non-compliance with the licensing phase of the program, especially by Aboriginal people. "As author of the 1993 Red Book, you should really tell Parliament and the Canadian people how your own promises got so far off the rails," urged Breitkreuz. "Before you waste another billion dollars, it's time to sit down to work cooperatively with the provinces and responsible firearm owners in Canada to draft a cost-effective gun law. It's time to put police and public safety priorities ahead of political priorities." FULL TEXT OF BREITKREUZ'S 4-PAGE OPEN LETTER TO PAUL MARTIN: http://www.garrybreitkreuz.com/publications/Article217.htm Add Harper's mandatory sentences for violating his Bill C-68 and even more stringent licensing provisions mandated by the CONfiscator Party of Canada. Remember this folks: The Conservative Party Policy - March 2005 Firearms Policy A Conservative Government will repeal Canada's costly gun registry legislation and work with the provinces and territories on cost-effective gun control programs designed to keep guns out of the hands of criminals while respecting the rights of law-abiding Canadians to own and use firearms responsibly. Measures will include: mandatory minimum sentences for the criminal use of firearms; strict monitoring of high-risk individuals; crackdown on the smuggling; safe storage provisions; firearms safety training; a certification screening system for all those wishing to acquire firearms legally; and putting more law enforcement officers on our streets. Property Rights Policy i) A Conservative Government will seek the agreement of the provinces to amend the Constitution to include this right, as well as guarantee that no person shall be deprived of their just right without the due process of law and full, just, and timely compensation. ii) A Conservative Government will enact legislation to ensure that full, just and timely compensation will be paid to all persons who are deprived of personal or private property as a result of any federal government initiative, policy, process, regulation or legislation. If permission is denied or permission is withdrawn, the state has authority to remove their property which was once your property, from you and place it wherever it feels is most suitable. Actually a lot of licensed gun owners (NUMBER OF LICENCE HOLDERS THAT HAVE REGISTERED GUNS 1,561,329) who had their guns confiscated but do not even know it. You are merely "giving" the govt. your property when you purchase the state's firearms license. . Please keep the topic on the UN Treaty front and center. We may forget about the rotten Harper's Bill C-68, eh???? Repeal Bill C-68 Harper. Yours in Tyranny, Joe Gingrich White Fox ------------------------------ Date: Fri, October 4, 2013 1:28 pm From: "Dennis R. Young" Subject: Cats are the No. 1 cause of bird deaths annually: ... ...Environment Canada study Massive cull of starlings to continue in Okanagan VANCOUVER SUN OCTOBER 4, 2013 http://www.vancouversun.com/technology/Massive+cull+starlings+continue+Okanagan/8996759/story.html Tens of thousands of starlings will be killed annually across the Okanagan for at least another three years, an effort to crack down on the "blight" that threatens the region's orchards. Local governments throughout the valley are renewing their financial support for a control program that began a decade ago. The latest to sign up was the District of Lake Country, where council this week approved a budget request of $1,600. A total of $115,000 is spent each year to trap and gas starlings across the Okanagan, with an estimated 60,000 of the birds killed each year. Even with the largescale control program, starlings are still estimated to cause $4 million in damages annually to Okanagan vineyards and orchards. Starlings were introduced to North America in 1890 by a group of New Yorkers who wanted to establish on this continent all the bird species ever mentioned in Shakespeare's plays. The birds first showed up in the Okanagan in the 1950s. In addition to eating and damaging fruit, starlings spread disease and drive out native songbirds. ----------------------- Editorial: Kitty belongs indoors CALGARY HERALD OCTOBER 2, 2013 http://www.calgaryherald.com/opinion/editorials/Editorial+Kitty+belongs+indo ors/8989163/story.html The release of an Environment Canada study that shows that cats are the No. 1 cause of bird deaths annually in Canada should be an impetus for Calgary cat owners to keep their pets indoors. The study revealed that cats kill 196 million birds every year, with office building collisions killing 64,000 birds annually. The report estimates that feral cats account for about 116 million bird deaths, with the remaining 80 million slaughtered by pets. The problem of reduction in bird populations is a serious one. Last year, a report called The State of Canada's Birds 2012 revealed that many species are in decline, with 66 species considered endangered. Calgary's cat population is estimated by the City of Calgary as approximately 100,000, and statistics released earlier this year show that about half of those are licensed. It may be that people are more likely to let their licensed cats roam, knowing they'll be returned if they get lost, while other owners may see no need to license cats that never go outside. Cat owners should keep their pets indoors. This will not only help the bird population, it is better for the cats, too. The American Veterinary Medical Association estimates that outdoor cats live an average of just five years, exposed as they are to the risks of being hit by cars, eaten by coyotes, wounded in fights with other animals, or poisoned by drinking such things as antifreeze. The lifespan of an indoor cat is 17 years. It's time to stop pussyfooting around - and keep both birds and cats safe. ------------------------ Cats are Canada's biggest bird killers, says Environment Canada study Cats kill an estimated 196 million birds in Canada each year BY TOM SPEARS, OTTAWA CITIZEN OCTOBER 1, 2013 http://www.ottawacitizen.com/Cats+Canada+biggest+bird+killers+says+Environme nt+Canada+study/8981176/story.html OTTAWA - Cats kill an estimated 196 million birds in Canada each year, far more than all other human-linked bird kills combined, according to a national survey by Environment Canada. Meanwhile the threat that everyone hears about - birds colliding with tall office buildings - is a much smaller threat. An estimated 64,000 birds die that way each year. Houses are far more lethal, killing 22.4 million birds a year. Power lines claim another 25.6 million, while vehicles on our roads kill 13.8 million. Overall, the survey finds that more than 95 per cent of the 268 million birds killed through human activity are victims of cats, power lines, traffic or houses. Environment Canada says no similar study summing up all threats to birds has ever been done, anywhere. "It's very hard to come up with these numbers, and that's why it hasn't really been done till now," said Richard Elliot, the department's director of wildlife research. The number of cat kills surprised him until he looked at other countries, including the United States, and saw they got similar findings earlier this year. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2013 13:57:18 -0600 From: Larry James Fillo Subject: "Man pleads guilty to manslaughter in shooting outside ... ...Saskatoon nightclub Scratch" To me the basic description of what happened indicates intent to commit kill. The victim intervened or simple attempted to prevent a man, presumably the shooter from beating up a woman and though he hadn't laid a hand on the shooter was shot 5 times. 11 years is on the longer end for manslaughter but w/o a murder conviction this guy will be out on the street within anywhere from 3 to 6 years from the date of conviction. That this happened on the May long weekend by a Somali(gangsta?) from Toronto indicates how serious violent criminals have zero concern about "gun control". Immigration policy that allows the immigrant/refugees to import the violent culture of their homeland is another issue. But what started out as a Toronto problem is now exported across Western Canada. ============================================================= Man pleads guilty to manslaughter in shooting outside Saskatoon nightclub Scratch By Hannah Spray, The StarPhoenix October 4, 2013 12:51 PM Macdonald George, 31, was shot and killed shortly after he left Scratch Nightclub on May 21, 2012 Photograph by: The StarPhoenix , file photo Shamsa Abdukaldir Noor has admitted shooting and killing a man outside a downtown Saskatoon nightclub last year. Noor, 24, pleaded guilty to manslaughter Friday in Saskatoon Court of Queen's Bench in connection with the death of Macdonald George on May 21, 2012 outside Scratch Nightclub on Second Avenue. Noor was proceeding straight to sentencing on Friday. The Crown and defence made a joint submission to Justice Mona Dovell of 11 years in prison for Noor. Dovell said the 11-year sentence, minus 16 months remand, was appropriate. The defence on Friday said Noor did not intend to kill George, and that the firing of the handgun with an act of sudden provocation, fuelled by alcohol and passion. Noor was originally charged with second-degree murder but pleaded guilty to the lesser charge. He submitted to the court a letter of apology, saying he will live forever with the burden of his actions on his conscience. Witnesses said George had intervened in a fight between two women after he saw another man step in and hit one of the women. Minutes later, Noor pulled a .22-calibre semiautomatic handgun and fired it at George, hitting him five times. Noor was later arrested in a car that fled the scene after the shooting. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, October 4, 2013 4:08 pm From: "Dennis R. Young" Subject: HOW RCMP FOUND 3,000 PAGES OF RECLASSIFICATION DOCUMENTS HOW THE RCMP FINALLY FOUND 3,000 PAGES OF RECLASSIFICATION DOCUMENTS OR HOW TO HIDE RECORDS FROM THE PUBLIC FOR MORE THAN A YEAR https://nfa.ca/sites/default/files/RCMP%20ATI%20-%20Reclassification%20Records.pdf ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2013 18:36:39 -0700 From: Todd Birch Subject: British L129A1 7.62x51mm Just read in a gun rag about the Brits adopting the American-made L129A1 chambered in 7.62x51mm NATO. Everything "old" is "new" again ..... An AR-10 variant, it has been successfully tested in Afghanistan as a "designated marksman" rifle (read: easier to train a few riflemen in their use as opposed to all of them), equipped with an ACOG optical sight. Many of us will remember with fondness our experience with the FNC1/SLR variants of the FNFAL firing the same cartridge. The US also found the need for a more effective cartridge and brought back their M-14 for the same application. Canada has been waffling about acquiring a new rifle for the Rangers with obvious choices on the ready market - the bolt action Ruger "Scout" rifle and now the semi-auto L129A1, one proven in the game fields, the other battle proven under combat conditions. Google it for some interesting commentary. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2013 21:22:56 -0600 From: Larry James Fillo Subject: "True Patriot Love In All Thy Sons Command"-SunnewsTV -Ezra ... ...Levant As the female supremacists, fading into irrelevancy, find something Canadian and male and military to protest. Ezra Levant puts it into perspective. http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/sunnews/straighttalk/archives/2013/10/20131004-070613.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, October 4, 2013 10:39 pm From: "Dennis R. Young" Subject: Farmers not signing on, Nova Scotia hunters say Farmers not signing on, Nova Scotia hunters say Sportsmen say they've had little feedback about killing pesky wildlife October 3, 2013 - 7:12pm BY IAN FAIRCLOUGH STAFF REPORTER http://thechronicleherald.ca/novascotia/1158389-farmers-not-signing-on-nova-scotia-hunters-say Farmers looking to deal with crop-busting wildlife do have a way to contact hunters after all, it's just not well-known. Earlier this week, the Nova Scotia Federation of Anglers and Hunters said it would like to see a registry established so farmers with destructive deer, bears or other game in their fields could connect with hunters in their area. But it turns out the Nova Scotia Association of Crossbow Hunters and Nova Scotia Bear Hunters Association have been trying to jump-start just such a program for three years now. They've just had trouble reaching the farmers. Crossbow association president Ian Avery said the group initially targeted blueberry producers in the northern part of the mainland who were having issues with bears raiding their fields. "We have a lot of hunters who are interested and have signed on to the program, but we've had very little feedback from the farming community," he said. The idea is that hunters would be invited by farmers onto their land during hunting season in order to help reduce the troublesome animal population. Such invitations would give sportsmen access to land where they normally couldn't pursue their quarry. However, the berry producers didn't sign on as expected. Avery said he has heard that may stem from concerns they have about the optics of hunting bears when the berries were in season. But he stressed it wasn't the intent of hunters to offer a nuisance wildlife program outside hunting season, rather the aim was to have sportsmen hunting species when they were in season. Avery thinks some farmers were interested in that type of program. However, only a handful signed up in the first year and are still registered for the free program. He said he hasn't had any feedback on how it has worked for the participating farmers. The concept proposed by the various hunter groups is widely used in North America, Avery said. "It's about pushing the program and letting people know it's there year after year, and I think that's where the challenge is," he said. With 33 groups making up the Federation of Anglers and Hunters, it is not always possible to be aware of what they have all taken on as initiatives, Tony Rodgers, the federation's executive director, said. However, he said he'd be happy to promote the program the crossbow and bear hunter groups have started. "We're obviously on the same page, but it still goes back to the fact that neither of us can do anything until the (Nova Scotia) Federation of Agriculture or individual farmers start looking for help," Rodgers said. He has a previously scheduled meeting with the Federation of Agriculture on Monday and he plans to bring up the topic then in the hopes of attracting more farmers to the program. The issue of wild animals destroying crops and domestic animals has been around for a couple of decades, Rogers said, adding it first surfaced several years ago when sheep farmers began looking for help after coyotes entered Nova Scotia. There are plenty of hunters who would like to have the opportunity to take their deer or bear on a farm where they know there are several around, "but it's the cart before the horse," Rodgers aid. "We have to have the farmers first." ------------------------------ End of Cdn-Firearms Digest V15 #960 *********************************** Submissions: mailto:cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Mailing List Commands: mailto:majordomo@scorpion.bogend.ca Moderator email: mailto:owner-cdn-firearms@scorpion.bogend.ca List owner: mailto:owner-cdn-firearms@scorpion.bogend.ca FAQ list: http://www.canfirearms/Skeeter/Faq/cfd-faq1.html Web Site: http://www.canfirearms.ca CFDigest Archives: http://www.canfirearms.ca/archives To unsubscribe from _all_ the lists, put the next four lines in a message and mailto:majordomo@scorpion.bogend.ca unsubscribe cdn-firearms-digest unsubscribe cdn-firearms-chat unsubscribe cdn-firearms end (To subscribe, use "subscribe" instead of "unsubscribe".)