From: owner-cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca (Cdn-Firearms Digest) To: cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Subject: Cdn-Firearms Digest V17 #679 Reply-To: cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Sender: owner-cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Errors-To: owner-cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Precedence: normal owner-cdn-firearms-digest@scorpion.bogend.ca Cdn-Firearms Digest Wednesday, August 21 2019 Volume 17 : Number 679 In this issue: Re: ALERT: STRAW PURCHASING ON THE RISE Re: What if a 'Good Guy With a Gun' is the Answer to Mass ... Re: RCMP have no choice but to investigate the SNC-Lavalin ... Re: Drug use common among mass shooters The Journalist's Guide to Gun Violence Coverage CFD v.17 #677 -- Police guns stolen or lost --- Double ... This is Candice Owens. OPEN LETTER TO PRIME MINISTER: HIGH RIVER FORCED ENTRIES Re: CFD v.17 #677 -- Police guns stolen or lost --- ... How to fix America's murder problem ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2019 20:19:35 -0400 From: Kindanyume Subject: Re: ALERT: STRAW PURCHASING ON THE RISE on the rise.. from single digit examples to what is still single digit example. meanwhile they will desperately try to imply that such is the leading source etc etc etc as they already tried to claim and the facts simply do not support such lies. On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 7:48 PM wrote: > ALERT: STRAW PURCHASING ON THE RISE > Alberta Law Enforcement Response Teams (ALERT) ANNUAL REPORT 2018-19 > Posted: > June 1, 2019 > > https://alert-ab.ca/straw-purchasing-on-the-rise/ > > https://issuu.com/alert_ab/docs/alert_annual_report_2018-2019_final > > When Justin Shipowich was sentenced on firearms trafficking charges in May > 2018, Sgt. Eric Stewart was watching intently to see what kind of message > would be sent. Stewart heads up ALERT's Guns and Gangs team, based in > Edmonton, which investigated Shipowich's straw purchasing case and > arrested him in September 2018. Straw purchasing is the practice of buyers > legally obtaining firearms and then reselling them to criminal markets. > Shipowich's case was the first one involving straw purchasing to make its > way through Alberta courts. He eventually received an eight-year prison > sentence - one Stewart says is a significant message to others > contemplating doing the same thing. "We want the sentences to be hefty and > high," he said. "Once you've taken that step to purchase a gun and then > sell it illegally, you've now put a gun on the street that could cause a > lot of damage. You are responsible for that, and I think the sentences > should be high to demonstrate that." In October 2018, shortly after > Shipowich's sentence was handed down, the Guns and Gangs team made an > arrest in another straw purchasing case. Philip Edward Sarrasin, 26, was > arrested in Calgary after handguns he allegedly bought in Calgary turned > up in criminal cases as far away as Toronto. > > "We've seen a trend lately of more straw purchasing investigations in > Edmonton and northern Alberta," Stewart said. "Why that is, I don't know. > I don't think it's any easier to purchase guns here than it is in B.C. or > wherever. But, talking to outside agencies and other police officers, the > trend has been that people come to Edmonton to purchase guns." Straw > purchasing has been around a long time in Alberta, but activity - and thus > enforcement - has picked up over the past 10 to 15 years due to a few > different factors, including the increased gap in values between the > Canadian and the U.S. dollar, as well as greater awareness of the practice > among organized crime groups. "From our experience, people who become > straw purchasers are people that, at one point, had legitimate jobs and, > in some cases, fell on hard times. They had a firearms license already, > and they were exploited or identified - or maybe they reached out > themselves," Stewart said. > > The guns that Stewart and his team deal with are those defined as > "restricted" or "prohibited" under the Criminal Code of Canada, including > all handguns, automatic and semi-automatic weapons, sawed-off shotguns, > and certain types of rifles. He says they see a wide variety of those guns > in their investigations. Being the only ALERT unit specifically addressing > firearms in Alberta, the Guns and Gangs team typically only takes on one > straw purchasing file at a time. Stewart said these investigations are > complex - more complex than drug investigations he worked on earlier in > his career - with multiple search warrants and judicial authorizations > needed. But that's where they can engage partners such as the Alberta > Chief Firearms Officer's office, the RCMP's National Weapons Enforcement > Support Team, other ALERT teams and municipal police forces. And the team > has a great relationship with the Alberta Crown Prosecution Service, with > whom they work closely to ensure straw purchasers are brought to justice. > > "Three years ago, when we rolled out the Guns and Gangs mandate, we > identified that we had to establish a good relationship with the Crown > prosecution," Stewart said. "Those guys work their tails off to push these > through the courts and seek those high sentences for us." There's no > blueprint to these firearms investigations, Stewart said - some exist on > their own, while others get tangled up in drug trafficking and other > crimes. "We initiate the investigation on the firearms offences, but as it > unravels and continues, you might identify other offences." While Stewart > doesn't think straw purchasing will be eradicated anytime soon, he says > law enforcement agencies are willing to learn from each other to help curb > the practice, and he hopes they'll be able to share data more efficiently > in the future to work toward their goals. "It's a privilege to own a gun, > not a right," he said. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2019 20:29:06 -0400 From: Kindanyume Subject: Re: What if a 'Good Guy With a Gun' is the Answer to Mass ... but the anti-s and bleeding hearts that have not applied cold hard logic to the reality of the world we live in... don't want logic and commons sense entering into this hence why the insanity of gun free zones continues.. all the while with idiots with their ears plugged humming to themselves playing make believe that the bad guys don't intentionally target gun fre zones since they are EASY targets... not to mention the laws against murder etc etc in the1st place.. /facepalm @ anyone stupid enough to actually think any gun control laws will ever solve the actual problem. once again.. the challenge presented: Name one gun control law that has ever proven to save lives.. even just one??? The only law passed so far with anything about gun control at all that has proven to save lives is the CCW reciprocity law(s) Everything else attached to gun control in history is a proven failure in that regard.. unless your goal is to be another Hitler or his ilk. Want proof/ Once again talk to Suzanna Hupp.. an actual survivor of a lunatic intent on random murder... and the loss of her parents due to he actually abiding by an idiotic gun control law that prevented her from being able to defend herself or others against the lone gunman... whom at the 1st sign of actual opposition ran, hid and shot himself in the head. On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 7:50 PM wrote: > ...Shootings > > > WHAT IF A 'GOOD GUY WITH A GUN' IS THE ANSWER TO MASS SHOOTINGS > > Long before the past weekend, when the US was shaken by yet another > double-header mass shooting, President Donald Trump had voiced an opinion > that's worth contemplating in the current conjuncture: what if there's a > chance to stop a bad guy with a gun by simply having a good guy with a gun > on the other side of the barricades? By Zara Muradyan - August 14, 2019 > > https://sptnkne.ws/8WR5 > > > https://sputniknews.com/analysis/201908141076551368-what-if-a-good-guy-with-a-gun-is-the-answer-to-mass-shootings/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2019 21:15:39 -0400 From: Kindanyume Subject: Re: RCMP have no choice but to investigate the SNC-Lavalin ... they have such a bad rep they cant do any more damage to themselves... since they have become beyond a national disgrace... On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 9:10 PM wrote: > ...scandal > > KNIGHT: THE RCMP HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO INVESTIGATE THE SNC-LAVALIN SCANDAL > The RCMP, in my view, has no choice but to conduct a formal investigation > into all of this and publicly say so. No matter the result, I would say > they have that duty to Canadians or risk further reputational damage. Then > they need to either recommend criminal charges or explain to Canadians why > no charges are applicable. The air needs to be cleared. by Leo Knight, > True North - August 17, 2019 > > > https://tnc.news/2019/08/17/knight-the-rcmp-have-no-choice-but-to-investigate-the-snc-lavalin-scandal/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2019 21:18:51 -0400 From: Kindanyume Subject: Re: Drug use common among mass shooters now now.. again logic and common sense and facts don't belong here this is the land of hugz, puppies, unicorns and gun free zones that all magically work! Just causzzzzzzzzzz ya know! Just ask Justin! On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 9:12 PM Joe Gingrich wrote: > Drug use/abuse is very common among mass shooters. > > This important factor often omitted from discussions while politicians > pummel the firearms community withincreasingly powerful and more useless > "gun control laws" which seldom improve public safety nor reduce gun > related crimes. > > Yours in Tyranny, > Joe Gingrich > White Fox > ------------------------------------------------------ > Sources: > > 1. > > https://www.ammoland.com/2013/04/every-mass-shooting-in-the-last-20-years -shares-psychotropic-drugs/#axzz5x3qQrt00 > > Nearly Every Mass Shooting In The Last 20 Years > Shares One Thing In Common, & It's NOT Weapons > > By Dan Roberts, November 10th 2013 > > > 3. > > https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2013/10/03/antidepres sant-side-effects.aspx > > The Violent Side Effects of Antidepressants that Many Ignore > > By Dr. Mercola October 03, 2013 > > 3. https://www.oann.com/new-details-in-dayton-ohio-shooting/ > > OAN Newsroom > UPDATED 7:18 AM PT — Friday, August 16, 2019; > > New details in Dayton, Ohio Shooting > > In the aftermath of the mass shooting in Dayton, Ohio, authorities are no w > saying the gunman had several substances in his system at the time of the > attack. On Thursday, the Montgomery County Coroner’s Off ice > announced Connor Betts had anti-depressants, cocaine and alcohol among > other chemicals in his body. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, August 19, 2019 9:02 pm From: "Richard Fritze" Subject: The Journalist's Guide to Gun Violence Coverage The Journalist's Guide to Gun Violence Coverage Guns are a sad fact of life in American culture and are a major topic in modern journalism. A good Journalist has a duty to get involved and make a difference in this important societal debate. By following certain guidelines, the concerned Journalist can be assured of having the maximum impact on this shameful problem. The first principle to remember is that subtle use of terminology can covertly influence the reader. Adjectives should be chosen for maximum anti-gun effect. When describing a gun, attach terms like "automatic," "semi-automatic," "large caliber," "deadly," "high powered," or "powerful". Almost any gun can be described by one or more of these terms. More than two guns should be called an "arsenal". Try to include the term "assault weapon" if at all possible. This can be combined with any of the terms above for best results. Nobody actually knows what an assault weapon is, so you cannot be criticized for this usage. Your local anti-gun organization can provide you with a list of the latest buzz-words like "junk guns," "Saturday Night Specials," and "the criminal's weapon of choice". Don't worry about getting technical details right. Many a reporter has accidentally written about semi-automatic revolvers or committed other minor errors. Since most people know little about guns, this is not a problem. Only the gun nuts will complain and they don't count. The emotional content of your article is much more important than the factual details, since people are more easily influenced through their emotions than through logic. Broadcast Journalists should have a file tape showing a machine gun firing on full automatic. Run this video while describing "automatic" weapons used in a crime or confiscated by police. At the least, a large graphic of a handgun should be displayed behind the on-air personality when reading any crime story. Do not waste words describing criminals who use guns to commit crimes. Instead of calling them burglar, rapist, murderer, or repeat offender, simply use the term "gunman". This helps the public associate all forms of crime and violence with the possession of guns. Whenever drug dealers are arrested, guns are usually confiscated by the police. Mention the type and number of guns more prominently than the type and quantity of drugs. Include the number of rounds of ammunition seized, since the number will seem large to those who know little about guns. Obviously, the drug dealers who had the guns should now be called "gunmen". Political discussions on gun control legislation usually involve pro-gun organizations. Always refer to these organizations as "the gun lobby". If space permits, mention how much money the gun lobby has spent to influence political campaigns and describe their legislative lobbying efforts as "arm twisting" or "threats". Gun owners must never be seen in a positive light. Do not mention that these misguided individuals may actually be well educated, or have respectable jobs and healthy families. They should be called "gun nuts" if possible or simply gun owners at best. Mention details about their clothing, especially if they are wearing hunting clothes or hats. Mention the simplistic slogans on their bumper stickers to show that their intelligence level is low. Many gun owners drive pickup trucks, hunt and live in rural areas. Use these details to help portray them as ignorant rednecks. Don't use the word "hunt". Always say that they "kill" animals. Don't be afraid to interview these people, they are harmless even though we don't portray them that way. Try to solicit comments that can be taken out of context to show them in the worst possible light. Never question the effectiveness of gun control laws or proposals. Guns are evil and kill people. Removing guns from society can only be good. Nobody really uses guns for legitimate self-defense, especially women or children. Any stories about armed self-defense must be minimized or suppressed. Be careful about criticizing the police for responding slowly to 911 calls for help. It is best if the public feels like the police can be relied upon to protect them at all times. If people are buying guns to protect their families, you are not doing your job. Emphasize stories where people kill family members and/or themselves with guns. It is important to make the public feel like they could lose control and start killing at any moment if they have a gun in the house. Any story where a child misuses a gun is front page material. View every shooting as an event to be exploited. Always include emotional quotes from the victim's family if possible. If they are not available, the perpetrator's family will do nicely. The quote must blame the tragedy on the availability of guns. Photos or video of grieving family members are worth a thousand facts. Most people will accept the assertion that guns cause crime. It is much easier than believing that some people deliberately choose to harm others. Your story should include terms like "tragic" or "preventable" and mention the current toll of gun violence in your city or state. Good reporters always know exactly how many gun deaths have occurred in their area since the first of the year. List two or three previous incidents of gun violence to give the impression of a continuing crime wave. Little space should be devoted to shootings where criminals kill each other. Although these deaths greatly inflate the annual gun violence numbers, they distract from the basic mission of urging law abiding citizens to give up their guns. Do not dig too deeply into the reasons behind shootings. The fact that a gun was involved is the major point, unless someone under 18 is affected, in which case the child angle is now of equal importance. Any article about gun violence should include quotes from anti-gun organizations or politicians. One quote should say that we must do something "for the children". Anti-gun spokespersons should be called "activists" or "advocates". If your employer wishes to appear unbiased, you can include one token quote from a gun lobby group to show that you are being fair. The anti-gun statements should be accepted as fact. The gun lobby statement can be denigrated by including text like, "according to gun lobbyist Jones." Fortunately, statements from anti-gun organizations come in short sound bites that are perfect for generating an emotional response in the reader or viewer. Gun lobby statements usually contain boring facts that are easy to ignore. Feel secure in your advocacy journalism. The vast majority of your fellow Journalists support your activism. The nation will be a better place when only the police and military have guns. Remember that you are doing it for the children so the end justifies the means. Eventually, the government will have a monopoly on power. Don't worry about the right to freedom of the press, just contact me then for more helpful hints. Professor Michael Brown School of Journalism, Brady Chair Vancouver College of Liberal Arts Political Satire, copyright 1999, Michael Brown. May be reproduced freely in its full and complete form. The author may be contacted at mb@e-z.net May be copied in HTML form from http://www.geocities.com/rkba2000 RICHARD A. FRITZE Barrister, Solicitor & Notary [ret’d] "RIDING SHOTGUN FOR YOU" 403 392 2506 Cell WWW.FRITZE.COM That rifle hanging on the wall of the working-class flat or labourer’s cottage is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays there. George Orwell 2017: Commemorating 802 years since Magna Carta ------------------------------ Date: Tue, August 20, 2019 8:35 am From: "Richard Fritze" Subject: CFD v.17 #677 -- Police guns stolen or lost --- Double ... ...Standard Revealed Re: LILLEY: HUNDREDS OF GUNS GO MISSING FROM THE MOUNTIES, MILITARY AND OTHER DEPARTMENTS Firearms researcher Dennis Young obtained a list of the number of guns lost or stolen by police or public agencies from 2005 through 2019 and the numbers might shock you. A total of 640 firearms were reported lost in that time frame, another 173 were reported stolen. That includes 469 handguns reported lost and another 117 handguns stolen. I wonder how many police were prosecuted under the Criminal Code, and, further, of those, how many were convicted. Did any lose their jobs? Or were they simply put on “administrative leave with full pay and benefits?” If anyone doubts that the Liberals’ firearms laws — now in place since the mid-90s — have reduced public trust in the police, you only need to see the double standard in effect for the police versus that which is imposed on mere citizens. Does the recent statement by Sgt. Eric Stewart regarding strraw purchasers apply to his fellow police when they lose a gun? He said: "We want the sentences to be hefty and high. Once you've taken that step to purchase a gun and then sell it illegally, you've now put a gun on the street that could cause a lot of damage. You are responsible for that, and I think the sentences should be high to demonstrate that.” Having said that, I must point out that the Criminal Code requires that a person whose gun is lost or stolen or who destroys a gun, must report the loss or theft with “reasonable despatch” [to the authorities]. See CC s.105 [loss or theft], and s.106 [destroy], resp. Interestingly, s.105 includes all guns, including non-restricteds, while s.106 covers all guns but excludes non-restricteds. Aside from reporting, as set out in these sections, I do not see any further requirements. That is not to say that one would not be prosecuted for the loss, theft or destruction. Perhaps if you are a cop, the reporting of the loss or theft is sufficient to avoid criminal prosecution. For the exact wording of these sections of the Criminal Code, see: https://www.canlii.org/en/ca/laws/stat/rsc-1985-c-c-46/latest/rsc-1985-c-c-46.html RICHARD A. FRITZE Barrister, Solicitor & Notary [retired] "RIDING SHOTGUN FOR YOU" WWW.FRITZE.COM That rifle hanging on the wall of the working-class flat or labourer’s cottage is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays there. George Orwell 2017: Commemorating 802 years since Magna Carta ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2019 09:38:17 -0600 From: "Joe Gingrich" Subject: This is Candice Owens. If you don't know of Candice Owens yet, have a look. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrKOnp1dcoo Published on Sep 26, 2018 On September 26, 2018, at Convocation, North America's largest weekly gathering of Christian students, welcomed Candace Owens, American conservative commentator to the stage. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, August 20, 2019 12:26 pm From: dennisryoung@telus.net Subject: OPEN LETTER TO PRIME MINISTER: HIGH RIVER FORCED ENTRIES OPEN LETTER TO PRIME MINISTER TRUDEAU: HIGH RIVER FORCED ENTRIES Waiving Solicitor-Client Privilege on High River Forced Entries Records Being Withheld By Dennis R. Young - August 20, 2019 https://dennisryoung.ca/2019/08/20/open-letter-to-prime-minister-high-river-forced-entries/ EXCERPT: You can start to repair this broken trust by making public the hundreds and hundreds of pages of records on the High River Forced Entries and rights violations withheld by your government using the solicitor-client privilege exemption. Please give the authority to your Ministers of Justice and Attorney General, Public Safety and Defence and the Judge Advocate General to waive privilege on these records. I would also ask you to direct the Minister of Public Safety to expedite the processing and release of 2,280 pages of High River rights violations records I requested from the RCMP in 2016. See the details regarding the records being withheld and updates on my Access to Information Act requests attached. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2019 14:19:29 -0600 From: "Joe Gingrich" Subject: Re: CFD v.17 #677 -- Police guns stolen or lost --- ... ...Double Standard Revealed ---"If anyone doubts that the Liberals?? firearms laws ?? now in place since the mid-90s --"---- ----------------------------------------------- The Harper Cons fully endorsed the Lieberals' Bill C-68 firearms law then changed it by adding enhanced licensing and minimum sentences while ruthlessly enforcing its infractions. The Harper cons made other modifications too. Does not the Harper Con. govt. need to be credited for their " achievements? " Many changes are still in place. Some have been struck down by the courts for section 12 violations-- cruel and unusual punishment. Do the Cons love the firearms community or what? Minimum sentences are still recommended in the Cons' firearms policy. Yours in Tyranny, Joe Gingrich White Fox source: Charter of rights and freedoms --12. Everyone has the right not to be subjected to any cruel and unusual treatment or punishment" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2019 00:15:58 -0600 From: "Joe Gingrich" Subject: How to fix America's murder problem http://jpfo.org/alerts2019/alert20190820.htm?awt_l=IN_Di&awt_m=Jt_3ghOYWlZn_P 12500 N.E. Tenth Place € Bellevue, WA 98005 € JPFO.org € 800-869-1884 € info@jpfo.org EDITORIAL € August 20, 2019 € Contact: Floyd Neeland How to fix America's murder problem€”DON'T DO SOMETHING, DO THE RIGHT THING It is the oldest mistake in Congress. €œWe must do something!€ It€™s a classic error of logic known as appelare desperadi, the appeal to desperation. It inevitably leads to disaster. You must do the right thing, not just anything. This requires thought, reason, facts and a solid plan. If you€™re stranded in a life boat and all you have is a drill, you don€™t start drilling holes. You turn the drill into a motor and get yourself to shore. We have had background checks for decades€”experts report these have done nothing to affect the recent spate of crazed mass murderers. They also have no effect on deranged children seeking to murder their classmates. Proposed expanded checks, if you read them, will impose costs and delays on innocent people but have zero effect on 300 million guns out there€”or psychos being motivated by the promise of fame conferred by incessant mass-murder promotion on the so-called €news.€ The new noise about €œred-flag laws€ obscures the fact that police already have the tools to control true threats. Seriously dangerous €œred flag€ people can be locked up right now, and you know the mass murderers have been repeatedly flagged, then ignored by authorities who face no consequences. And the new laws are hopelessly flawed, missing the obvious: People too dangerous to keep their own guns are too dangerous to be left out on the street€”with matches, vehicles, kitchen knives or even more guns easily bought from drug dealers... Why doesn€™t the €œnews€ media make this clear instead of pounding a drum? The obvious unraveling of society we can all see€”kids who want to mass murder their classmates, unhinged psychos shooting up stores and theaters, city-dwellers murdering their neighbors by the thousands in historically-black inner-city ghettos€”the answer isn€™t to outlaw guns owned by the innocent, or pass laws we already have that aren€™t working. Violating the Constitution by confiscating property people legally own (known as €œinfringement€), eliminating due process, encouraging citizens to become snitches with no repercussions for false, hoplophobic or malicious reports and turning police into warrantless nighttime invaders, these are not answers. This is like drilling holes in your life boat, and helping to sink America into a tyrannical socialist failure like so many others on history€™s junkpile. Fueled by media reports, anti-gun-rights groups have succeeded in convincing some fearful Americans that gun ownership literally €œproves€ a person must be crazy. Will simple gun possession become grounds for red-flagging neighbors? Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership says start here: 1. Don€™t Inspire Evil. Stop perpetual broadcasts and publication of mass murders, especially from the past. €œRefrain from gratuitous or repetitious portrayal of mass murderers€™ names and images.€ The criminals want fame. Deny them their infamy. "We must starve terrorists of the oxygen of publicity which they seek." -- Margaret Thatcher 2. Teach students and the public about the righteous place the Second Amendment holds in American society. Firearms are crucial in the preservation of peace and freedom, creating a balance of power between government and the public it serves. Guns have social utility, saving lives, stopping crime and keeping you safe. Distorting these truths through emphasis and omission is a direct violation of the Associated Press Code of Ethics. 3. Encourage routine gun-safety training and marksmanship, so people young and old develop a proper respect for firearms, like Americans used to possess before this was banished from the public square and the current insanity took its place. If you own a gun and understand gun safety, take someone you know to the range, this week. That will do more to slow the barrage of misinformation spewing from TV and the media than anything else you can do. August is national shooting sports month, with range discounts galore didn't the media tell you? nssf.org; ------------------------------ End of Cdn-Firearms Digest V17 #679 *********************************** Submissions: mailto:cdn-firearms-digest@bogend.ca Mailing List Commands: mailto:majordomo@bogend.ca Moderator email: mailto:owner-cdn-firearms@bogend.ca List owner: mailto:owner-cdn-firearms@bogend.ca FAQ list: http://www.canfirearms.ca/Skeeter/Faq/cfd-faq1.html Web Site: http://www.canfirearms.ca CFDigest Archives: http://www.canfirearms.ca/archives To unsubscribe from _all_ the lists, put the next four lines in a message and mailto:majordomo@bogend.ca unsubscribe cdn-firearms-digest unsubscribe cdn-firearms-chat unsubscribe cdn-firearms end (To subscribe, use "subscribe" instead of "unsubscribe".)